Re: qemu speed
On 10/5/07, Gerald Thornberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been informed that I was talking out of my hat, as I suspected. > KQEMU (QEMU accelerator) is a Linux kernel module and, therefore, not > an option for the OpenBSD. I'll put my hat back on my head now. For whatever it's worth, I had to turn kqemu off when trying to run OpenBSD inside qemu on my fedora box. A helpful #openbsd denizen whose nick I've forgotten suggested that OpenBSD and most everything else fails with kqemu. -Josh
Re: BSD thin client
On 1/27/07, Reiner Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In the next 2 weeks, a free NX client will be released which is runs on OpenBSD without Linux emulation. All closed source parts from Nomachine client are rewritten. As there are some parts from original Nomachine client was used, it will be released under the GPL That's excellent news! I assume this email list list will hear about it? -Josh
Re: BSD thin client
On 1/27/07, Joachim Schipper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Without details, that's about the best I can do. Some things which may or may not be useful to you: siteXYtools some form of binary patching freeNX, some VNC, or just plain X-over-the-network; or rdesktop, if you use Windows servers Along these lines, is there an NX client that works on OpenBSD? I've played (only briefly) with the only one I've found available, namely the linux client downloadable from nomachine.com. It starts up under linux compatibility, but complains that it can't set TCP_NODELAY. I didn't have the smarts or time to dig further than that. Anyone else? -Josh
Re: revision control system for system administration
I'm not so convinced it is that complex on a homogeneous OpenBSD network. OpenBSD is a very manageable system, such as the entire OS contained in compressed tarballs for easy extraction and the flexible ports system. Both of these entities are easily scriptable. Then all there is to worry about is system configs and custom binaries, which can be easily managed by CVS. A hierarchal CVS structure can be built to mange global (all nodes in network), group (groups of similar servers), and single (things specific to a node, like /etc/myname) nodes. You apply global settings first, overwriting with more specific settings. For what it's worth, in our various environments (eg. testing, production, development, etc., each with up to 45 or so servers running mostly RedHat Advanced Server) as well as for other internal services we've found CVS and a script to push modifications to affected servers to perform fairly well. That said, to my knowledge no one here has spent much time looking at cfengine or other alternatives, but a move to such a system would probably be viewed with (guarded) enthusiasm. -Josh
Re: News From HiFn
Here's what I think is cool: despite the tendency public forums discussing the subject have of saying "OpenBSD people generally (or Theo, or someone else specifically) are jerks", those same "jerks" value freedom enough to write the best-engineered general purpose operating system available, the world's most widely used ssh implementation, a high-performance, full-featured BGP daemon, etc., and give them away without restriction to those who only spout epithets back. Whatever your opinions of Hifn and their ilk, thanks to all you "jerks" out there.
Re: lightweight openbsd
On 6/25/06, Lars Hansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You'll have a hard time fitting that on 128Mb. base, etc, man, bsd and bsd.rd adds up to ~170Mb and I doubt leaving out man and bsd.rd will get it down to less than 128Mb. Speaking again from experience, it is possible to get by without man.tgz, since they are available online. But it's a pain. -Josh
Re: lightweight openbsd
On 6/24/06, Rogier Krieger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you want to install to a 128M CF, I suppose you're limiting yourself to base39.tgz, etc39.tgz and a few bytes or spare space. I wonder whether flashdist (as is rather popular on Soekris devices) would be an easier tool for you. Citing Google for "flashdist OpenBSD: http://www.nmedia.net/~chris/soekris/ My limited experience has taught me that by default, flashdist not only removes things you probably won't run on the firewall/NAT boxes for which it is intended (such as httpd, presumably), but also removes some stuff that would be very nice for general system administration. If memory serves, this includes things like passwd(1) and cron(8). In other words, pay some attention to what flashdist includes and excludes should you choose to use it. All that said, it was quite simple to use, and certainly fast. The fact that the boxes I was setting up when I used flashdist would have benefited more from careful and considered installation than from fast installation was a lesson I learned later, and not a shortcoming of flashdist ;) -Josh
Trouble with auich and Intel 82801DB
I've finally taken the time to look into why sound doesn't work on my
laptop under 3.9 RELEASE. The full dmesg is below, however the part I
think is most relevant is here:
auich0 at pci0 dev 31 function 5 "Intel 82801DB AC97" rev
0x03pci_intr_map: no mapping for pin B
Both auich(4) and the supported hardware page say the 82801DB should
be supported. Any thoughts? Especially if there's no less catastrophic
answer forthcoming, I'm willing to consider things like defective
motherboard; it has given me problems in the past.
-Josh
OpenBSD 3.9 (GENERIC) #617: Thu Mar 2 02:26:48 MST 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.60GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 600 MHz
cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,ACPI,
MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,TM,SBF,EST,TM2
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 600 MHz (988 mV): speeds: 1600, 1400, 1200, 1000, 800,
600 MHz
real mem = 527278080 (514920K)
avail mem = 474095616 (462984K)
using 4278 buffers containing 26468352 bytes (25848K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(00) BIOS, date 04/23/04
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
apm0: AC on, no battery
apm0: flags 30102 dobusy 0 doidle 1
pcibios at bios0 function 0x1a not configured
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xd000! 0xcd000/0x1000
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel 82852GM Hub-PCI" rev 0x02
"Intel 82852GM Memory" rev 0x02 at pci0 dev 0 function 1 not configured
"Intel 82852GM Configuration" rev 0x02 at pci0 dev 0 function 3 not configured
vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Intel 82852GM AGP" rev 0x02: aperture
at 0xf000, size 0x800
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
"Intel 82852GM AGP" rev 0x02 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured
uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 "Intel 82801DB USB" rev 0x03: irq 5
usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 "Intel 82801DB USB" rev 0x03: irq 4
usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1
uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 "Intel 82801DB USB" rev 0x03: irq 7
usb2 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0
uhub2 at usb2
uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 "Intel 82801DB USB" rev 0x03: irq 3
ehci0: timed out waiting for BIOS
usb3 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub3 at usb3
uhub3: Intel EHCI root hub, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered
ppb0 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 "Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI" rev 0x83
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
cbb0 at pci1 dev 3 function 0 "Ricoh 5C476 CardBus" rev
0xacpci_intr_map: no mapping for pin A
: couldn't map interrupt
cbb1 at pci1 dev 3 function 1 "Ricoh 5C476 CardBus" rev
0xacpci_intr_map: no mapping for pin B
: couldn't map interrupt
"Ricoh 5C552 Firewire" rev 0x04 at pci1 dev 3 function 2 not configured
rl0 at pci1 dev 4 function 0 "Realtek 8139" rev 0x10: irq 5, address 00:11:2f:64
:11:4b
rlphy0 at rl0 phy 0: RTL internal PHY
iwi0 at pci1 dev 5 function 0 "Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG" rev 0x05: irq 7, addre
ss 00:0e:35:49:8e:54
ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 "Intel 82801DBM LPC" rev 0x03
pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 "Intel 82801DBM IDE" rev 0x03: DMA, channel 0
configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0:
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 38154MB, 78140160 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: SCSI0
5/cdrom removable
cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
auich0 at pci0 dev 31 function 5 "Intel 82801DB AC97" rev
0x03pci_intr_map: no mapping for pin B
"Intel 82801DB Modem" rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 31 function 6 not configured
isa0 at ichpcib0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot)
pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot
wsmouse0 at pms0 mux 0
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
midi0 at pcppi0:
spkr0 at pcppi0
npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: using exception 16
pcic0 at isa0 port 0x3e0/2 iomem 0xd/65536
pcic0 controller 0: has sockets A and B
pcmcia0 at pcic0 controller 0 socket 0
pcmcia1 at pcic0 controller 0 socket 1
pcic0: irq 9, polling enabled
biomask edfd netmask edfd ttymask
pctr: 686-class user-level performance counters enabled
mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support
atu0 at uhub0 port 1 configuration 1 interface 0
atu0: Linksys WUSB11, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 2, address 00:06:25:b0:cb:b5
dkcsum: wd0 matches BIOS drive 0x80
root on wd0a
rootdev=0x0 rrootdev=0x300 rawdev=0x302
Re: Status of tomcat on OpenBSD
> From: Jeremy Huiskamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: May 29, 2006 11:46:07 PM EDT (CA) > To: "Leonardo Rodrigues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Status of tomcat on OpenBSD > > And failing that, vanilla tomcat usually just requires an unpack > and run, so long as you've got java installed properly. In case > you wanted to go with something from the 5.5 series... > > I haven't tried it on openbsd but the packaging changes don't look > that extensive so you could probably apply them yourself to any > version. I've run 5.5 by just unpacking it without problems on a simple application. I couldn't get data sources to work properly on 5.0 (certainly user error and not a problem with the package -- I was just too pressed for time to figure it out). -Josh
Re: Evaluating load average
On 5/3/06, Will H. Backman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm looking for some hints on evaluating load average. I have a new system that is showing load averages over .50 most of the time, but I don't see that it is doing much according to systat vmstat. I figured that this machine would be way overpowered for the job it is doing. Is load average (like what is displayed in uptime) really a good indicator? What tips do people have for profiling? -- Will I've only really used load average in the context of what the load average has been historically. It's not too great for tuning specific performance bottlenecks (deciding it's time to get a faster disk, for example) because too many components are involved in the calculation, but if you happen to keep track of the typical load average historically, and one day you notice that the load average is five times higher than it ever has been in the past, you know something's working harder than normal. -Josh
Re: (OT: PostgreSQL vs MySQL)
On 4/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As to losing data, I suspect you'd lose a lot more > from PostgreSQL than MySQL on a failing hard drive. Any particular reason for that suspicion? I ask out of genuine interest, and I promise I don't want to start a flame war. -Josh
Re: OpenBSD hardware router
On 2/3/06, Chris Zakelj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has anyone ever actually pushed a Soekris all out to see when it begins > to choke? If so, where did it/they top out? It's great to remind us > yanks that our residential broadband sucks compared to EUR and asia, but > as you say, we'll catch up eventually. I wish I knew actual numbers, but I know that I had two net4801's as endpoints of an IPsec tunnel, each on 1.5 Mbit/s lines running OpenBSD 3.5 or 3.6. Someone started pushing a big file across the line, and suddenly one of the routers dropped off the internet because it had no CPU left after trying to handle all the encrypting and decrypting. Again, I don't know how much traffic that really amounted to -- however fast two boxes can go across good 1.5 Mbit lines and 40 miles of southern California. Turning on altq and capping the bandwidth available to that tunnel fixed the problem (though it made some users unhappy when they couldn't transfer their files as quickly). All that being said, we 1) didn't have an encryption accelerator in the box and 2) didn't really spend any time doing performance tuning on it, so someone who worked at it could probably get more out of it. -Josh Tolley
Re: Oracle, anyone?
On 12/5/05, J.C. Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 21:57:15 -0700, Josh Tolley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >OpenBSD is written for uses > >where freedom, stability, adherence to standards, and security are the > >top concerns > > You are pontificating your personal opinions on why OpenBSD is written > and what OpenBSD is used for to Ted Unangst? Point taken. What I expressed in that email was my interpretation of the "Free, Functional, and Secure" mantra. I'd be fairly worried for someone that was trying to run Oracle on OpenBSD in a production environment; just trying to make it run out of personal interest or whatever worries me much less. All that being said, whether anyone chooses to make decisions based on what worries me personally is their own matter. -Josh
Re: Oracle, anyone?
Running oracle on any unsupported platform is probably not the best idea, not only because you won't get support, but also because running it on a more secure platform will still leave you with lots of holes; in other words, you're going to need something in front of the box to protect it anyway. Of course, "the more layers of defense, the better" is an excellent mantra, but unfortunately much of the time there are considerations other than just security. OpenBSD is written for uses where freedom, stability, adherence to standards, and security are the top concerns (and things like performance, or accessibility to those who are only interested in reading their email and nothing else, for instance, aren't as high on the list). If having support is a concern, or if being able to get it up and running more or less quickly is a concern, OpenBSD isn't the platform for Oracle. They've got lots of little things they do in their installer to make sure you're running a platform they like (for instance, Fedora (an unsupported platform) is almost identical to RedHat Advanced Server (a supported platform), yet by default Oracle won't install on it (specifically because it checks RedHat's /etc/redhat-release file to see what system it's being installed on). In short, there likely will be lots of little work-arounds you'll have to deal with to get the install to work in the first place. All that being said, should lack of support, the extra time it will take, and the other issues that have been brought up not be issues for you, 1) lucky you, and 2) I for one would be very interested in whether or not you get it working. -Josh
Re: Hardware RAID
On 11/10/05, Jason Dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There are a number of examples and projects online. The Soekris > lists are a fountain of good information. Personally, I like the > flashdist project. > > http://www.nmedia.net/~chris/soekris/ > > -- > Jason Dixon > DixonGroup Consulting > http://www.dixongroup.net Flashdist is quick and easy. One important thing to remember, however, is stated right on their homepage: "It is designed to install a minimal version of OpenBSD with features for networking". The last time I used flashdist, the bits that were stripped out included utilities for user management, cron, and some other stuff I would have very much liked to have available, but which I hadn't read the instructions thoroughly enough to have configured into the system originally. It's kinda a pain to install some of those pieces after the initial installation is done and the router is up and running, so make sure to configure what you want to have in yout system as you're running the flashdist scripts. -Josh
Re: congrats on OpenBSD SAN... one little question
On 10/21/05, Bob Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i can certainly see how this would be annoying from a > > scalability standpoint, but how often are you changing user > > storage limits? it would, however, be most convenient to just > > have one huge-ass partition :). > > > > Annoying from a scalability standpoint? gimme a break. one huge > filesystem is annoying from a scalablility standpoint. For what little it's worth, I'm with Bob on this. If whatever you're running *must* be on one big partition, scalability will be a pain. Once you fill the partition, you've got to expand it somehow (never a simple thing, even with "PartitionMagic" or whatever). If, on the other hand, your system can deal with many small partitions, making the available storage space bigger is merely a matter of adding a new partition somewhere and linking it in the right place. Even in cases where you do need more space on a partition, it's much easier to move the data to a larger partition if "larger" means "> 100 GB" instead of "> 1 TB". -Josh Tolley
Re: How scared should I be of "atactl: ATA command timed out"
On 8/26/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have had the same thing happen...and renenabling smart has fixed it. The > resulting problem is that a reboot will make the drive forget it was > enabled and you'll have to do it again. I haven't figure out what that > means yet ;) Anyone know > -- > Allie Daneman > Allnix,LLC. > http://www.allnix.net > > On Fri, August 26, 2005 10:04, Josh Tolley wrote: > > One of my cronjobs, as suggested in the atactl manpage, is the > > following, designed to email me if my soekris gets disk errors (it's a > > disk-based install, not a flash-based one). > > > > 0 * * * * /sbin/atactl /dev/wd0c smartstatus > /dev/null > > > > Typically, and as expected, this doesn't end up sending me anything. > > However this morning I got this in my inbox: > > > > atactl: ATA command timed out > > > > How worried should I be about this? I've run the same command again > > today, without it reporting any errors, and this is the first error of > > this kind I've seen. Google and archives didn't help much, and I'm not > > a disk guru. Thanks in advance. > > > > -Josh > "Re"-enabling SMART? That's odd... it's already enabled, even after the error reported this morning... # atactl /dev/wd0c identify Model: TOSHIBA MK3021GAS, Rev: GA124A, Serial #: 846E5279T Device type: ATA, fixed Cylinders: 16383, heads: 16, sec/track: 63, total sectors: 58605120 Device capabilities: ATA standby timer values IORDY operation IORDY disabling Device supports the following standards: ATA-1 ATA-2 ATA-3 ATA-4 ATA-5 Master password revision code 0xfffe Device supports the following command sets: NOP command READ BUFFER command WRITE BUFFER command Host Protected Area feature set Read look-ahead Write cache Power Management feature set Security Mode feature set SMART feature set Flush Cache command Device Configuration Overlay feature set Set Max security extension commands Advanced Power Management feature set SMART self-test SMART error logging Device has enabled the following command sets/features: NOP command READ BUFFER command WRITE BUFFER command Host Protected Area feature set Read look-ahead Write cache Power Management feature set SMART feature set Flush Cache command Device Configuration Overlay feature set Advanced Power Management feature set # That being said, I also haven't seen the error show up again.
How scared should I be of "atactl: ATA command timed out"
One of my cronjobs, as suggested in the atactl manpage, is the following, designed to email me if my soekris gets disk errors (it's a disk-based install, not a flash-based one). 0 * * * * /sbin/atactl /dev/wd0c smartstatus > /dev/null Typically, and as expected, this doesn't end up sending me anything. However this morning I got this in my inbox: atactl: ATA command timed out How worried should I be about this? I've run the same command again today, without it reporting any errors, and this is the first error of this kind I've seen. Google and archives didn't help much, and I'm not a disk guru. Thanks in advance. -Josh
Bandwidth measurement on enc0
I have to think this has been asked before, but Googling and archive-searching didn't show me anything enlightening. I'd like to measure bandwidth on my enc0 interface. I can easily monitor the physical interfaces on my routers using netstat or snmp, but all the statistics for enc0 (and pflog0, and pfsync0) are zero. Ok, so I can't monitor bandwidth on virutal interfaces -- I can understand that. The next most obvious option is to set up something like tcpdump and a few other things to count packets on enc0, or to count esp packets on my external interface, or even to count packets on the internal interface headed to the network on the other side of the tunnel, or something. That's certainly possible, and not terribly daunting, but I was hoping someone had a better solution (where better = "here's a command that pulls a counter from the kernel" or "this package makes the value available over snmp" or even "here's the script I use"). I appreciate any pointers anyone is willing to give. -Josh
Re: ftp-proxy's -S option has no effect
On 7/20/05, Josh Tolley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So I have an FTP server behind a pf firewall running generic 3.6, and > am trying to run ftp-proxy in reverse mode. Active transfers work, but > passive ones don't. > So I found out about the -S option, which I understand is supposed to > change the 127,0,0,1 in the 227 response above to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx. So > I added that to inetd.conf, HUP'd inetd, and got exactly the same > response. Any suggestions? Not to reply to my own post, but since I didn't get any other replies, I dove into the code. I'd like to know what the -S option is really supposed to do, 'cause I think I've misunderstood it. I added the following change just after drop_privs() 1108a1109, > if ((src_addr.s_addr != 0) && ReverseMode) > proxy_sa.sin_addr = src_addr; > I've no idea if the change would be good for "general purpose" use, but it seems to work for me. Now, I get the proper response to the PASV command -- the server IP transmitted to PASV is the one I passed to the -S parameter. -Josh Tolley
ftp-proxy's -S option has no effect
So I have an FTP server behind a pf firewall running generic 3.6, and am trying to run ftp-proxy in reverse mode. Active transfers work, but passive ones don't. I'm quite sure the firewall rules are right, because of the active transfers working, and because I can see the problem in the FTP logs. Here's the deal: /etc/inetd.conf 127.0.0.1:8022 stream tcp nowait root /usr/libexec/ftp-proxy ftp-proxy -t 300 -S xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -R yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy For what it's worth, I have another ftp-proxy set up in inetd.conf to run on port 8021 to proxy internal FTP clients. yyy is my FTP server's internal address, xxx is my firewall's external address. I started testing without the -S option and found that whenever I tried to go into passive mode, the server said I should open data connections to 127.0.0.1, as follows: Remote system type is UNIX. Using binary mode to transfer files. ftp> passive Passive mode on. ftp> ls 227 Entering Passive Mode (127,0,0,1,239,211) ftp: connect: Connection refused So I found out about the -S option, which I understand is supposed to change the 127,0,0,1 in the 227 response above to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx. So I added that to inetd.conf, HUP'd inetd, and got exactly the same response. Any suggestions? I'm sure ftp-proxy is running my connection. pgrep ftp-proxy finds an ftp-proxy process when I log in with my ftp client, which goes away when I exit the ftp client again. ps auxw | grep `pgrep ftp-proxy` shows me the command line that ftp-proxy instance was started with, and it shows the -S option along with all the other options. fstat -p `pgrep ftp-proxy` returns a list of open handles, including sockets connected to my ftp server and to my home IP address. So as far as I can tell, ftp-proxy is running fine, but ignoring -S. Is there something obvious I've missed? Any suggestions are much appreciated. -Josh
Re: OpenBSD log server
> On Sunday 10 July 2005 06:13 pm, Steve Shockley wrote: > > Qv6 wrote: > > > I have set up an OBSD firewall to replace my PIX, and configured it > > > to log to an OBSD log server - a loghost. I'll like to set up a web > > > interface to monitor the logs using msyslog (with mysql and php). > > > Has anyone on this list done something similar and if so, what > > > syslog utility did you use. > > > > I used syslog-ng and a very modified php-syslog-ng. I wanted to use > > postgresql, and started out thinking I'd just convert php-syslog-ng > > to use pgsql, but then found a bunch of bugs and holes, and some > > *really* bad HTML. I fixed it up, fixed most of the bugs, and used > > Pear DB for the database interface so it's not database-specific. I'm also using mysql, syslog-ng and a slightly modified php-syslog-ng. It works nicely, though provided enough time there are a lot of changes to php-syslog-ng I'm thinking of setting up, in particular to give me all kinds of spiffy reports cutting out all the cruft our Windows domain likes to spit out. -Josh
Re: openbsd list fckery
> > > I do like the installer though, I'm serious. > > I'm right in the middle of installing 3.7 via serial port B on a Sun > > I LOVE the OpenBSD installer. > I really have to second this. The OpenBSD installer is great. I had to laugh when I overheard two friends who typically work with Windows OSs comparing how fast they'd been able to install a server OS. I subsequently went and installed a test web server in under 10 minutes (after which I started messing around, hosed a bunch of stuff, and had to spend the next 10 minutes installing again) -Josh
Re: Summer of Code ?
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding the intent of your email, but I'll bite. I'm a CS student (nearly graduated) with a job, family, and programming projects on the side, but one of my dreams would be to be able to, say, write drivers (provided hardware manufacturers ever release docs...) and I'd love to learn how. My first goal, though, would have to be getting more proficient in C and making sure I can use it effectivley on OpenBSD. So as I said, perhaps I'm barking up the wrong tree, but where do I start? What resources are there? I love the man pages, but so far as I've seen anyway, there's not a place where I can begin to say "Here's step 1 of 1549 in writing a driver". Nor is there a place I've seen that says, "This needs to be written, wouldn't take tons of experience, but takes time no one has wanted to spend on it -- go to". Can you offer suggestions? I appreciate any help you can give, even if it's just "RTFM". Thanks. -Josh Tolley On 6/3/05, Bob Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd have no problem coming up with or supervising a few projects for > students like this, unfortunately, they aren't taking other projects > anymore... > > -Bob > > > * Dunceor . <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-06-02 23:45]: > > I'm actually tryin to do some of the NetBSD projects to OpenBSD > > directly, without caring about the google contest. > > I still think it's a good motivation for a student to spend alot of hours > > on it. > > But in the end, nobody should code on suchs projects for the money, > > but for the fun. > > > > I got a few plans as I said, I just need to do some research around it. > > > > // Dunceor > > > > On 6/3/05, Ted Unangst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Dunceor . wrote: > > > > > > > > Ed White wrote: > > > > > > http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html > > > > > > > > > > > > Where is OpenBSD ? > > > > > > why is your email two days late? > > > > > > > Well I think it's a great oppertunity to let a student dive into the > > > > OS and they would probobly continue to work on the project afterwards. > > > > I saw that and missed OpenBSD also. > > > > They had some nice projects over at NetBSD actually. > > > > > > it's not like a bsd rsync, or a better ffs, or ... wouldn't help openbsd > > > either. > > > > > > hell, go do something for openbsd, port to netbsd, claim the money. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > all we're waiting for is for something worth waiting for > > > > -- > Bob Beck Computing and Network Services > [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Alberta > True Evil hides its real intentions in its street address.
