Re: SMP

2007-09-13 Thread Michael Scheliga
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Cyrus
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:24 PM
> To: misc@openbsd.org
> Subject: SMP
>
> Im currently running openbsd 4.1 on my server, Proliant 8500.  This
> server
> is SMP with 4x 700MHz PIII proc.  Im just wondering, is it using
> all four
> cpu's?  or do I have to configure the system to utilize SMP?
>
>
> P.S. I did show my appreciation, and I bought a CD!
>
> Thank you,
> Cyrus


Please read http://cvs.openbsd.org/faq/faq8.html#SMP

And http://cvs.openbsd.org/faq/faq2.html#MailLists
Especially the bottom of 2.2

Mike



Re: Recommendation for a UPS

2007-04-18 Thread Michael Scheliga
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
> Dave
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:52 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
> Subject: Re: Recommendation for a UPS
>
> what is the nut list
> - Original Message -
> From: "bofh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED] Org" 
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 9:40 AM
> Subject: Re: Recommendation for a UPS
>
>
> > On 4/15/07, bofh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Or, find an old ups with a serial port, make sure it's on the nut
> >> list, then buy replacement batteries at batteriesplus for ~$25
each.
> >
> >
> > Oops, sent to Chris when I mean to send to misc :)

http://opensource.mgeups.com/ups.htm



Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported

2007-03-27 Thread Michael Scheliga
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
> Sunnz
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 10:20 AM
> To: misc@openbsd.org
> Subject: Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not
> supported
>
> May I ask 'other' upgrade questions?
>
> This is concerned with -current.
>
> 1, How does the naming works? Is the current -current tree named as
> 4.1-current? I downloaded the snapshots of -current off ftp mirror,
> and they are all 41: cd41.iso, etc41.tgz, etc... will they become
> cd42.iso and 4.2-current when 4.1-release comes out?
>

http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Flavors

4.1 -beta came from 4.0 -current and will become 4.1 -release then
 maintained as 4.1 -stable while 4.1 -current will then become 4.2 beta.

> 2, How _shall_ I do an upgrade from one -current snapshot to a newer
> one -current snapshot? Do I need to download the newer -current
> cd41.iso and to the upgrade, or can I just download the *41.tgz files
> and extract them in / ?
>
> 3, What about -current packages? I can make sure that the ports tree
> is in sync with the system with relative ease, but the -current
> packages are constantly changing right?
>
> Thanks.



Re: pgt-Driver in 4.0-Beta (installed 2 weeks ago) buggy?

2006-10-17 Thread Michael Scheliga
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 5:18 PM
> To: misc@openbsd.org
> Subject: Re: pgt-Driver in 4.0-Beta (installed 2 weeks ago) buggy?
> 
> >You keep using that word.  I do not think it means what you think it
> >means.
> 
> In case some peoples may NOT understood what I`m talking about:
> DoS, Denial of Service. Mostly the word "DoS" is used for Software
Bugs
> even the Denial of Service can appear even by other stuff.
> 
> Exmaple: You`re at meeting and somebody unplugs your pgt-Card and
voila
> your kernel crashs. I would call this a clearly DoS. Because after the
> "attack" your OS is kinda useless because of the kernel panic.
> 
> Well but you can always enjoy playing hangman in the ddb-Console so
DoS
> may not be the correct word at all. ;]
> 
> 
> Kind regard,
> Sebastian

This is the worst use of the term "DoS" that I have ever seen.  
You consistently prove the need to skip over your messages, it's not
just
the devs that are tried of reading your strange conclusions.
Do you really expect help when you exaggerate and incorrectly use terms
so often?  You might try going back and reading all of your messages
that 
you sent to this list, without reading the replies, and without thinking
about the issues you're trying to solve... just read the way you come 
across on this list for a year.  

Matthew's well selected quote hit it right on the head, and added a hint

of humor to this really sad thread you've started.



FW: OpenBSD 3.8, Soekris net4801 - console boot hangs when keys pressed

2006-10-16 Thread Michael Scheliga
For the archives, since searching this seems harder than it should be.
-Mike

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Bosch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 1:52 PM
To: Michael Scheliga
Subject: Re: OpenBSD 3.8, Soekris net4801 - console boot hangs when keys
pressed

Michael Scheliga wrote:
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
> Of
>> Stephen Bosch
>> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 12:59 PM
>> To: OpenBSD-misc list
>> Subject: OpenBSD 3.8, Soekris net4801 - console boot hangs when keys
>> pressed
>>
>> Hi:
>>
>> I have a Soekris net4801 which runs from a compact flash disk. It
> boots
>> to the serial console. I've set everything to 9600 baud, 8 bit words,
> no
>> parity, 1 stop bit.
>>
>> When left unattended, it boots normally.
>>
>> If I try to enter anything at the boot> prompt, I see one character
> and
>> then it hangs completely. Only a hard reset fixes it:
>>
>>> comBIOS ver. 1.28  20050529  Copyright (C) 2000-2005 Soekris
>> Engineering.
>>> net4801
>>>
>>> 0256 Mbyte MemoryCPU Geode 266 Mhz
>>>
>>> Pri Mas  SanDisk SDCFB-1024  LBA Xlt 993-32-63  1001
> Mbyte
>>> Slot   Vend Dev  ClassRev Cmd  Stat CL LT HT  Base1Base2   Int
>>> ---
>>> 0:00:0 1078 0001 0600 0107 0280 00 00 00  
>>> 0:06:0 100B 0020 0200 0107 0290 00 3F 00 E101 A000 10
>>> 0:07:0 100B 0020 0200 0107 0290 00 3F 00 E201 A0001000 10
>>> 0:08:0 100B 0020 0200 0107 0290 00 3F 00 E301 A0002000 10
>>> 0:18:2 100B 0502 01018001 0005 0280 00 00 00  
>>> 0:19:0 0E11 A0F8 0C031008 0117 0280 08 38 00 A0003000  11
>>>
>>>  1 Seconds to automatic boot.   Press Ctrl-P for entering Monitor.
>>> Using drive 0, partition 3.
>>> Loading.
>>> probing: pc0 com0 com1 pci mem[639K 255M a20=on]
>>> disk: hd0+
>>>>> OpenBSD/i386 BOOT 2.10
>>> switching console to com0
>>>>> OpenBSD/i386 BOOT 2.10
>>> com0: 9600 baud
>>> boot> b
>> Obviously, this is bad because it means I won't be able to pass any
>> kernel parameters should that become necessary.
>>
>> If I do nothing or hit enter, the system boots normally -- no greek,
> no
>> garbage -- which would suggest it's not a baud rate problem.
>>
>> Has anybody encountered this before?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -Stephen-
> 
> Have you tried disabling all flow control?  Variants of this have been
> asked and answered tons on both misc@ and Soekris lists.  If this
> doesn't
> help you might try searching those archives.

I did search those lists and found nothing -- most everything referred
to baud rate, and I've checked that up and down, and it jibes.

The flow control -- I haven't seen that mentioned. I've tried it and it
has fixed the problem.

Thanks,

-Stephen-



Re: Letter to OLPC

2006-10-05 Thread Michael Scheliga
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
> Jack J. Woehr
> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 2:55 PM
> To: OpenBSD
> Subject: Re: Letter to OLPC
> 
> > Free and open software is a means to an end, rather than the
> > sole end unto itself for OLPC.
> >
> > I was totally stunned by this admission.  "morally bankrupt", as Bob
> > says, is exactly what is going on.
> 
> Hmm, sounds like you are saying that abstract goal of unlimited
> software freedom is
> a higher goal than providing access to modern technology to
> disadvantaged children in
> 3rd-world countries.

 
>snip<

Why can't they try to do both, simultaneously?  The fact that they
won't,
isn't the same as saying they can't.  Do we really think this product 
couldn't be built within budget with full BSD license compatibility?
Once they signed up corporate sponsors, I doubt they fought very hard or
looked to competitive suppliers for more open solutions/licensing.

Why must they give up the openness of the project so eagerly?

I don't recall reading anything about how the OLPC project would have 
shipped already, except that they wanted more open drivers that they
couldn't get

Mike



Re: Hifn policy on documentation

2006-06-13 Thread Michael Scheliga
-Original Message-
From: Michael Scheliga 
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 4:21 PM
To: 'Dag Richards'
Subject: RE: Hifn policy on documentation



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
> Dag Richards
> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 3:49 PM
> To: misc@openbsd.org
> Subject: Re: Hifn policy on documentation
> 
> Marc Balmer wrote:
> > * Michael Scheliga wrote:
> >> truly open to the "general public" anonymous download site.   I
doubt
> >> that the documentation that is being requested by developers is
putting
> >> you in violation of US Export Regulations.  Your customer's
locations
> >
> > I live in Switzerland.  Do I give a fuckin' rats ass for US Export
> > Regulations?
> >
> 
> 
> Not care about US Export Regs?
> 
> But that just means you want the terrorists to win.
> After all our President is your President right?
> 
> Sleep, Consume, Follow Orders.  It's the American way.


Sorry, but when the company is in America, these are the 
current laws.  I don't see how hi-jacking the thread to
show that you don't like America or it's laws is going 
to help with getting drivers for a Hifn card working better.

And I don't recall being asked what country I wanted to be
born into.  Perhaps you were.  

Trying to get something changed for the better, not trying to 
push US laws down anybodies throat.  If changing US law was as
simple as bitching about it in here, you wouldn't be able to 
keep up with the volume of mail.

Michael



Re: Hifn policy on documentation

2006-06-13 Thread Michael Scheliga
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
> Hank Cohen
> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 9:10 PM
> To: misc@openbsd.org
> Subject: Hifn policy on documentation
> 
> Folks,
> There has been some discussion of late on this list about Hifn's
policy
> with respect to releasing documentation to the general public.  That
> discussion lead to a great deal of uninformed speculation and
> unflattering statement's about Hifn's unfriendliness towards the open
> source community.  I would like to set the record straight.

Mr. Cohen, 

Perhaps you can talk to your legal counsel and actually break out the
documentation needed for these open source drivers into a separate and
truly open to the "general public" anonymous download site.   I doubt
that the documentation that is being requested by developers is putting
you in violation of US Export Regulations.  Your customer's locations
can be tracked through the distribution network of your chips and
devices that you already have in place.  OpenBSD is not selling,
reselling, or modifying your products.  Nor is OpenBSD asking to
download drivers or other source code that you may provide to others.  I
understand it's very easy these days for attorneys to just say put
everything behind your registration only access extranet to be safe.
This is not acceptable and, in my opinion, is not open to the general
public like you stated.

It might take some effort on your part and that of your legal counsel
and compliance officers to keep the open source community happy and the
US Government off your back, but I think you'll find it will be worth it
in the end.  You obviously care how the people reading this list
perceive your company and products or you wouldn't have written that
letter; now please take it a step further in the right direction.


Regards,

Michael Scheliga



Re: DS21140(Tulip) Quad port nic and PF

2006-06-04 Thread Michael Scheliga
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
> Justin Blackmore
> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 6:36 PM
> To: misc@openbsd.org
> Subject: DS21140(Tulip) Quad port nic and PF
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> Ok here the deal,
> 
> I have a test box with obsd 3.9 stable with a Adaptec ANA-6944A/TX 4
> port network card(PCI). I copied the pf configs from the production
> firewall box (identical to my test box but it has intel nics) and
> tweaked it to reflect the new 4 port nic, well all looks good and I
can
> pass traffic on all the ports but it will not perform packet
forwarding
> or any nat.
> 
> I've googled the hell out of this and have come up with jack shiznit.
So
> im thinking maybe the nic is crap, so I through it in a win2k box and
> fire up routing and nat on it and it works! Ok so its not the nic. I
> slap 2 good'ol cheap davicom's back in in the obsd box and re-tweak
the
> pf rules to reflect the new davicoms and all is working! I slap the 4
> port nic back in it and re-tweak the rules and now back to square one.
> Its not packet forwarding with the 4 port nic. Does any one have any
> ideas? This is a basic obsd 3.9 install with no special stuff running
or
> any oddball tweaks.
> 
> -Justin


Did you remember to uncomment:
"net.inet.ip.forwarding=1" in /etc/sysctl.conf?

Mike



Re: using torrents for packages?

2006-05-01 Thread Michael Scheliga
How does all this noise help the project?

Of course all mirrors and sites are busy right after a release.
...but I haven't heard anybody ask for any additional mirrors
or great ideas.  I'm pretty sure if this were indeed a problem
Theo or some other well known dev would ask for help.  

The torrent "idea" has been beaten to death during previous 
releases.

 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 1:52 PM
> To: misc@openbsd.org
> Subject: Re: using torrents for packages?
> 
> >May be I am missing something, but I thought the project have/had 
> >plenty of mirrors to go around. Yeap today and for the next few days 
> >may be to busy as everyone is getting to them to get their files 
> >instead of may be buying CD's, but other then that, I really thought 
> >that capacity, even for packages was plenty.
> >
> >Is there really a need for more?
> >
> >And I am not talking about Torrents, as I prefer getting my 
> data from a 
> >trusted source thank you.
> 
> You may wanna request some changes?
> F.e. dropping gzsig
> 
> I wonder why this tool got into the base if it`s not being used
> 
> Well you`ve to download a signed *.tgz completly before you 
> could check it but you would download a currupt/modified 
> tar.gz also completly before you`ll notice it
> 
> "Buy more CD-Sets" -> Show me a CD-Set containing all Packages...
> 
> gzsig + torrent = maybe a solution for the install sets 
> and/or packages "maybe"...
> 
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> Sebastian



Re: OpenBSD 3.9-stable (not current) install?

2006-04-03 Thread Michael Scheliga
Unless you pre-ordered a CD, the release goes up on ftp sites on 
or right before the release date, hence "release date" is used.  
The fact that -current is up on ftp has nothing to do with the 
release being available.  

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On Behalf Of Steve Williams
> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 8:55 PM
> To: misc@openbsd.org
> Subject: OpenBSD 3.9-stable (not current) install?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I understand the whole issue with snapshots being held up for 
> the release cycle.  I have followed the mail list and 
> archives, and still have not figured out the answer...
> 
> If I want to install OpenBSD 3.9-stable (or the release ..), 
> what is the easiest way to do that?
> 
> There is no 3.9 directory in the directory structure pub/OpenBSD.
> 
> I see there are snapshots available dated April 2, 2006, but 
> I know installing that will give me 3.9-current.
> 
> I can CVS checkout the 3.9-stable tag...(or it appears I can)
> 
> I am building sparc64 on a Sunfire 150.  OpenBSD 3.8 
> installed like a dream, but I'd like to try to get 3.9 on it 
> to see if the new sensor work will work on it.
> 
> This will be going into production, so I'd kind of like to 
> have as close as possible to the proper install.
> 
> I was wondering about doing a cvs update of 3.9-stable, make, 
> make release, then boot the 3.9-current iso and install from 
> my self compiled "release".
> 
> Given there was a thread about "stupid users", feel free to 
> call me one :-P
> 
> I have installed OpenBSD many times, just never this close to 
> a release, and I can't wait for May 1 to get the 3.9 CD's.  I 
> know I could go to 3.9-current, but I have never done that on 
> a production system, always followed the -stable branch.
> 
> Thanks, for any assistance.
> 
> Cheers,



Re: vr0 interrupt_vector: spurious vector 7c3 at pil 7 sparc64

2005-12-21 Thread Michael Scheliga
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Henderson
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 4:55 PM
To: Thomas Bvrnert
Cc: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: vr0 interrupt_vector: spurious vector 7c3 at pil 7 sparc64

> On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 23:20 +, Stuart Henderson wrote:
> > > now i've a sun netra t1 105 with openbsd 3.8 with the same card 
> > > and i've problems.
> > 
> > irq swizzling is broken on the t1 on OpenBSD. Cards requiring an irq 
> > mostly won't work right, it is possible to work around for some 
> > cards in ofw which you'll find some info in the sparc@ archives.
> 
> i can't found no info  at the list openbsd-sparc and google have you 
> an additional idea ?
>
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.os.openbsd.sparc/1057%3E has some info.


Might be related to this filed problem report: #3928
http://cvs.openbsd.org/query-pr.html



Re: openbsd web site design proposals (from HOTO write bad docs)

2005-11-28 Thread Michael Scheliga
Just for the record, there are many, many silent users that have used
OpenBSD and followed misc@ and other OpenBSD lists for years and years
that are getting really tired of the handful of "common users" that keep
clogging up these lists with total shit.

While I feel people like me should read rather than post opinions and
requests for change on this list, I'm so tired with non-devs making
STUPID posts that make it seem as all non-devs are total morons that
don't deserve support or even to run this OS.  

However, my request is a new mailing list for these people.  
I think we need [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm not in the I.T. industry but use it for a home router/firewall as a
learning experience.  I'm so, so happy with the way things are run that
I just had to post this.  Nick or anybody else that seems closed to
input is 100% correct in my opinion on this and other recent issues.
Not because I'm trying to kiss up, nobody here knows who the hell I am,
or could care less... and that's the way it should be!  When you get a
reply of something to the effect of "it's the way it's going to be"
perhaps, that's why this project is better than the others.  If you
don't feel it is better, then why are you wasting your time with an OS
that's sub-standard?  You're not trying to make things better by doing
this; you're trying to gain attention/respect in a way that is
non-deserving in the eyes of this poster.  

"Put up or shut up" doesn't mean to clog the system with un-needed crap
that you think will gain you points.

This anger is the result of many, many threads that have appeared lately
and not in any why just a reply to this one.

End of rant.

Mike