Re: Updating plus.html
Hey, On Wed, Nov 02, 2011 at 06:57:22AM -0500, Amit Kulkarni wrote: On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:42 AM, Brett brett.ma...@gmx.com wrote: Hi, If no-one else is updating this page, I will do it. Can someone tell me what date the OPENBSD_5_0 tag was added so I know when to start from? I couldn't figure out if this was possible from cvs. My plan is to go through the source changes and plunder from the commit messages. Brett. Brett, I offered to do it. But I am contributing to KDE porting and that's taking a lot of time, so if you could do the plus.html, just great! I didn't realize that diffing plus.html would take so much of my time. That's real work. I would say, you follow the github.com/openbsd repo, and do a git log. OpenBSD 5.0 tag was added on August 8th per the latest changelog ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/Changelogs/ChangeLog I have a diff for updating plus50.html but it needs further corrections, right now it takes to 06/20/2011 from 05/15/2011. I will do the diff tomorrow and then I hope you can do the future diffs? You would need to download the www repo and cvs diff -u against plus.html thanks in advance I've done most of the latest updates with Janne's corrections. It's true I have a lot of diffulties to find time to do it lately, sorry :(, so maybe it'll be better if someone else take it now. Anyway I'm a bit surprised some other people worked on it, I've worked with Janne and some stuff are almost but not yet published (to week #26, the beginning of c2k11 for 5.0, and week #33 and #34 of current). I've done some work I could submit soon to Janne with weeks #35, #36 and #37. Let me know if it's needed. Doing a week of plus.html is about 3 or 4 hours of work for me, I've learn a lot of stuff by doing it and that's cool. Unfortunately, new job and weird life have distracted me a lot lately. I'd be happy to give any insight I can on the subject :). Cheers, -- nicolas
Re: OpenBSD 4.9 pre-orders
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 05:06:30PM +1100, Rod Whitworth wrote: On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:10:02 -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: I've turned on OpenBSD 4.9 pre-orders. Support us by buying something please. These sales are a part of keeping the project going. As for clothing... there's going to be a black hoodie this time. Of course there is an OpenBSD 4.9 song to go with the new artwork. That is at: http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html Enjoy! Hey guys, usually when Theo puts out the pre-order message there is a flood of messages about who has ordered what and, although it's no genuine race, there are many who kinda compete to be first. I'm #13 so twelve guys beat me and they aren't even boasting. WTF? Only two related messages on undeadly.org C'mon don't you like your new CDs and swag? Order up! I hate so much people posting photos of the latest OpenBSD CDs sets while I'm not having it yet that I ordered them as soon as I read the announcement. Maybe I beat you, I didn't boast, because I didn't really know what to say appart from AWESOME!!! or THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! and since capitalize letters and multiple exclamation points are kinda silly I just gave money and remained silent :). The song's pretty good too and it's free to download. Right! cheers, -- n
Re: Tracking What it's changing in current
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:01:22PM -0500, Luis Useche wrote: One thing I would really like to see is the diffs of every commit. This is available for DragonflyBSD for instance. Is there a way to find this on OBSD? CVS and git are very different I don't think you can easily have this feature with CVS (if it exists I'd be glad to know it :)). Personally I follow the commit changes on marc.info http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvsr=1w=2 and use CVS tools (cvs itself or Emacs version control) with a local source tree when I want to see the diffs.
Re: Tracking What it's changing in current
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:16:01AM -0800, patrick keshishian wrote: On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Nicolas P. M. Legrand nlegr...@ethelred.fr wrote: On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:01:22PM -0500, Luis Useche wrote: One thing I would really like to see is the diffs of every commit. This is available for DragonflyBSD for instance. Is there a way to find this on OBSD? CVS and git are very different I don't think you can easily have this feature with CVS (if it exists I'd be glad to know it :)). Personally Sure it can. see CVSROOT/loginfo. You define a filter and need a filter-script that will take files with changed revisions, do the 'cvs diff' and mail out the outputs. ha thanks! I'll have a look.
Re: Advice on learning C as first language
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 09:26:52AM -0500, Kenneth Gober wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Christiano F. Haesbaert haesba...@haesbaert.org wrote: On 24 November 2010 13:55, Kenneth Gober kgo...@gmail.com wrote: since you've indicated that you are interested in a 'first' language, I must assume you plan to learn other languages later. as a result, I strongly recommend that you start with the book Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs (available online at http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book.html, or you can buy a paper copy if you prefer, for example from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Structure-Interpretation-Computer-Programs-Engineering/dp/0262011530 ). this book will give you an excellent foundation on programming in general (and the Scheme programming language in specific). Are you insane ? Recommending SICP to a guy that just started programming and CS in general ? Have in mind that not everyone is a MIT grad. Learning lisp/scheme as ones first language is sweet, but it just doesn't happen in 2010, that makes me said, but it's the truth. Before flaming me, I'm quite fond of scheme and elisp. SICP isn't used to teach MIT grads, it's used as the entry-level course to teach MIT undergrads how to program (or so I understand, I never went to MIT). if a college undergrad can use it to learn programming while also taking 5-6 other classes at the same time, then I'm confident the OP (who I assume isn't trying to learn 4-5 other things at the same time) can manage the task as well. actualy I'm not sure it's used anymore http://www.wisdomandwonder.com/link/2110/why-mit-switched-from-scheme-to-python It's on the list of books I want to read anyway :)
Re: Advice on learning C as first language
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 03:49:27PM +, Jona Joachim wrote: On 2010-11-24, Jan Stary h...@stare.cz wrote: On Nov 24 06:55:20, James Hozier wrote: I read online that the first programming language one learns could be crucial to the person's future programming skills and habits that become ported to other programming languages they learn later Start with LISP, I'm tellin' ya. Come on, LISP is from teh past, learn Haskell already. http://www.lisperati.com/landoflisp/panel57.html from http://landoflisp.com/ :)
Re: OpenCVS in Base?
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 01:05:21AM -0700, Clint Pachl wrote: I am starting a new project that needs version control and I was thinking about using OpenCVS. However, I'm not sure if it is in the base (I'm running -current). My old 4.4 firewall has /usr/bin/opencvs. Is /usr/bin/cvs actually opencvs? No /usr/bin/cvs is GNU CVS: /usr/bin/cvs -v I noticed http://www.openbsd.org/plus48.html states Removed OpenCVS from the build. It means the sources are still there, but aren't build with the whole system. You have to build it yourself with something like: cd /usr/src/bin/cvs make sudo make install Here is the commit mentionning the removal from the build: http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/usr.bin/Makefile#rev1.114 Since then the commits on OpenCVS and OpenRCS have been pretty active again, but not yet putted back in the build: http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/usr.bin/cvs/ And OpenCVS.org directs me to http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/usr.bin/cvs/. What's the status? The default CVS shipped with OpenBSD it's still GNU CVS. So I wouldn't use OpenCVS unless I wanted to test it and/or improve it.
Re: OpenBSD PPC on iBook G3 -- Wireless alternatives?
Hello, On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 08:30:54PM -0600, David Astua wrote: I've just got an old iBook G3, and want to run OpenBSD on it, so there's some recommendation about which USB wireless adapter would work better on this PPC laptop? The idea is to to learn PPC assembly and do some C code on it, there's no need for X or sound, a minimal install and some developer tools would be enough for me. So all I need on this box is OpenBSD/Vi/Wifi/OpenBSD sticker to cover the Apple Logo. I have a D-Link DWA-110 I have plugged in various G3/G4 PPC systems that works very well. rum0 at uhub1 port 4 Ralink 802.11 bg WLAN rev 2.00/0.01 addr 2 rum0: MAC/BBP RT2573 (rev 0x2573a), RF RT2528, address ba:ba:ba:ba:ba:ba cheers, -- nicolas
Re: Ordering CDs in Europe becoming increasingly difficult
I've bought from the computer shop directly on three occasions, I get the CDs in the right time and I didn't felt the shipping was that expensive. In fact, I think it was quite the same. I'm working near Eyrolles, and I didn't saw OpenBSD sets their for a long time. Not far from Eyrolles, the excellent book shop le monde en tique http://www.lmet.fr/ sell them, but they receive them some times after official release day. Personnaly I'll keep buying from the Computer Shop. They are nice and efficient. cheers, -- nicolas On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 01:31:26PM +0200, Andri Braselmann wrote: On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 12:21:54PM +0100, John Wright wrote: Ordering the CD sets just isn't as much fun anymore as it used to be. I feel the same way. rrright. Andri
diff for getenv.3
to reflect changes from this commit : http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvsm=127778468909371w=2 Index: getenv.3 === RCS file: /cvs/openbsd/src/lib/libc/stdlib/getenv.3,v retrieving revision 1.14 diff -u -r1.14 getenv.3 --- getenv.310 Mar 2010 20:46:16 - 1.14 +++ getenv.33 Jul 2010 14:33:53 - @@ -130,6 +130,12 @@ character. .Pp The +.Fn unsetenv +function was passed an empty +.Ar name +or a NULL pointer. +.Pp +The .Fn putenv function was passed a .Ar string
Time te restart plus.html, the daily changelog
Hello, after a talk initiated by Rod Whitworth on www@ it seems some people are willing to restart the daily changelog, after it stopped in last november. We could set up a team to submit plus.html diffs. If you are interested please email me. cheers, -- nicolas
typos in upgrade47.html
Hello, received the CDs on friday, a very nice moment as always, thanks everyone :-). I saw minor typos in upgrade47.html while upgrading, useless prompt, useless sudo and use of obsolete -F pkg_add flag: Index: upgrade47.html === RCS file: /cvs/openbsd/www/faq/upgrade47.html,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -u -r1.8 upgrade47.html --- upgrade47.html 6 May 2010 01:36:59 - 1.8 +++ upgrade47.html 9 May 2010 14:40:26 - @@ -553,7 +553,7 @@ your $RELEASEPATH, run it with: blockquotepre -# bsudo sysmerge -s $RELEASEPATH/etc47.tgz -x $RELEASEPATH/xetc47.tgz/b +bsysmerge -s $RELEASEPATH/etc47.tgz -x $RELEASEPATH/xetc47.tgz/b /pre/blockquote Sysmerge(8) will show you a unified @@ -654,7 +654,7 @@ and use something like blockquotepre -#b pkg_add -ui -F update -F updatedepends/b +bpkg_add -ui -D update -D updatedepends/b /pre/blockquote where the tt-u/tt indicates update mode, and tt-i/tt specifies
Re: typos in upgrade47.html
On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 08:17:29PM +0100, Jason McIntyre wrote: On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 04:49:26PM +0200, Nicolas P. M. Legrand wrote: Hello, received the CDs on friday, a very nice moment as always, thanks everyone :-). I saw minor typos in upgrade47.html while upgrading, useless prompt, useless sudo and use of obsolete -F pkg_add flag: Index: upgrade47.html === RCS file: /cvs/openbsd/www/faq/upgrade47.html,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -u -r1.8 upgrade47.html --- upgrade47.html 6 May 2010 01:36:59 - 1.8 +++ upgrade47.html 9 May 2010 14:40:26 - @@ -553,7 +553,7 @@ your $RELEASEPATH, run it with: blockquotepre -# bsudo sysmerge -s $RELEASEPATH/etc47.tgz -x $RELEASEPATH/xetc47.tgz/b +bsysmerge -s $RELEASEPATH/etc47.tgz -x $RELEASEPATH/xetc47.tgz/b /pre/blockquote this should either be # or $ sudo, i think, which is how we normally refer to prompts. i'm not sure whether that's a consistent faq thing too though. Sorry i didn't mention it has already been discussed for upgrade46.html: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=125696072511365w=2 Nick then said: Slapping a sudo in front of everything they contribute to the FAQ is some people's style, but not mine. And yes, the # in front is really annoying, since much of upgrade46.html (including that line) is intended to be copy/pasted. This is not true of most of the rest of the FAQ, where I generally DON'T want people to copy/paste blindly and ignorantly. reading upgrade47.html for the first time, i thought it must be a sort of copy/paste error and that I should mention it again. By the way maybe there is a better way to mention those kind of problem than posting on misc? regards, -- nicolas
