Re: newfs fast, but newfs_msdos and newfs_ext2fs very slow
Thanks, I will experiment with a correctly partitioned USB stick and with different block sizes. But could you please clarify the following: I don't think there's really much you can do. There's no "quick format" option for newfs_msdos like there is on Windows. I thought the difference between quick format and slow format was that the latter overwrites the whole disk and the former only writes as much as necessary to get a working filesystem. But it looks to me that newfs_msdos actually doesn't write a lot. I did the following experiment (didn't verify it with the USB stick yet): I generated a binary file with a pattern of all bytes from 0 to 255 repeated 256 times. For the resulting 64K file, I configured a device with vnconfig. Then I called newfs_msdos on the corresponding raw device. Hexdump on the original file shows that only the bytes before 0x4600 were overwritten, after that, the pattern is still there. So I'm confused about how this is different from quick format. Best regards Stanislav Syekirin
Re: Wireless network with bfwm sometimes works and sometimes doesn't
Stefan Sperling wrote: Do you have any of iwn/iwm/iwx or another device which could capture raw 802.11 frames of failed association attempts in monitor mode? I have a neglected device with Intel Wireless 3160, which is listed on the iwm man page. Assuming OpenBSD will run on that device, what do I have to do? Regards Stanislav Syekirin
newfs fast, but newfs_msdos and newfs_ext2fs very slow
Hi, I'm trying to figure out the best way to format a USB stick as FAT32. This is what I've tried: $ time doas newfs_msdos /dev/rsd1c /dev/rsd1c: 60007944 sectors in 7500993 FAT32 clusters (4096 bytes/cluster) bps=512 spc=8 res=32 nft=2 mid=0xf0 spt=63 hds=255 hid=0 bsec=60125184 bspf=58602 rdcl=2 infs=1 bkbs=2 20m08.34s real 0m00.35s user 0m12.81s system As you can see, it takes many minutes, and the elapsed time is much larger than the CPU time. Looking at top while the command runs shows that newfs_msdos has PRI -5, its CPU usage fluctuates around 0.5%, STATE is mostly "sleep" with WAIT being "physio". The same happens if I call newfs_ext2fs -I. For comparison, `newfs /dev/rsd1c` is almost instantaneous: 0m00.88s real 0m00.06s user 0m00.16s system. It doesn't work if the disk is already formatted as FAT32, though: I have to call `fdisk -e sd1`, and reinit, otherwise I get a "can't rewrite disk label" error; I'm not sure why newfs cares and newfs_msdos doesn't, maybe I'm doing it wrong somehow. How can I speed the creation of a FAT32 or Ext2 file system up? Best regards Stanislav Syekirin
Re: Wireless network with bfwm sometimes works and sometimes doesn't
Yes, it does. I'm not sure whether it's always the case, but this time it works. Dmesg output: bwfm0: SCAN -> AUTH bwfm0: AUTH -> ASSOC bwfm0: ASSOC -> RUN bwfm0: associated with f0:af:85:9a:e4:22 ssid "Vodafone-7D3A" channel 6 start 6Mb long preamble long slot time bwfm0: missed beacon threshold set to 30 beacons, beacon interval is 100 TU bwfm0: received msg 1/4 of the 4-way handshake from f0:af:85:9a:e4:22 bwfm0: sending msg 2/4 of the 4-way handshake to f0:af:85:9a:e4:22 bwfm0: received msg 3/4 of the 4-way handshake from f0:af:85:9a:e4:22 bwfm0: sending msg 4/4 of the 4-way handshake to f0:af:85:9a:e4:22 Regards Stanislav Syekirin On Di, 9 Apr 2024 19:47:36 +0200 Stefan Sperling wrote: On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 07:15:55PM +0200, Stanislav Syekirin wrote: Thank you so much for the hint, now I understand what the debug option does. I have actually tried it, but, because `man ifconfig` says "this turns on extra console error logging", I incorrectly assumed that it would output to stdout or stderr, not to the system message buffer. Then, calling ifconfig from xterm, I couldn't see any debug output and wondered why the option does nothing. Anyway, here is the result of `dmesg | grep bwfm0`. Vodafone-7D3A_5G is the one I try to connect to, Vodafone-7D3A is same router but different frequency The AP on channel 112 is not responding to the initial AUTH frame. Given that other devices work fine the AP probably does not receive the frame, but it is unclear why. Does bwfm manage to connect to the 7D3A AP on channel 6?
Re: Wireless network with bfwm sometimes works and sometimes doesn't
m0: SCAN -> AUTH bwfm0: begin active scan bwfm0: AUTH -> SCAN bwfm0: end active scan bwfm0: + f0:af:85:9a:e4:23 112 +191 54M ess privacy rsn "Vodafone-7D3A_5G" bwfm0: SCAN -> AUTH bwfm0: begin active scan bwfm0: AUTH -> SCAN bwfm0: end active scan bwfm0: + f0:af:85:9a:e4:23 112 +191 54M ess privacy rsn "Vodafone-7D3A_5G" bwfm0: SCAN -> AUTH bwfm0: begin active scan bwfm0: AUTH -> SCAN bwfm0: end active scan bwfm0: + f0:af:85:9a:e4:23 112 +191 54M ess privacy rsn "Vodafone-7D3A_5G" bwfm0: SCAN -> AUTH bwfm0: begin active scan bwfm0: AUTH -> SCAN bwfm0: end active scan bwfm0: + f0:af:85:9a:e4:23 112 +191 54M ess privacy rsn "Vodafone-7D3A_5G" bwfm0: SCAN -> AUTH bwfm0: begin active scan bwfm0: AUTH -> SCAN bwfm0: end active scan bwfm0: + f0:af:85:9a:e4:23 112 +191 54M ess privacy rsn "Vodafone-7D3A_5G" bwfm0: SCAN -> AUTH bwfm0: begin active scan bwfm0: AUTH -> SCAN bwfm0: end active scan bwfm0: + f0:af:85:9a:e4:23 112 +191 54M ess privacy rsn "Vodafone-7D3A_5G" bwfm0: SCAN -> AUTH bwfm0: begin active scan bwfm0: AUTH -> SCAN bwfm0: end active scan bwfm0: + f0:af:85:9a:e4:23 112 +191 54M ess privacy rsn "Vodafone-7D3A_5G" bwfm0: SCAN -> AUTH bwfm0: begin active scan bwfm0: AUTH -> SCAN bwfm0: end active scan bwfm0: + f0:af:85:9a:e4:23 112 +191 54M ess privacy rsn "Vodafone-7D3A_5G" bwfm0: SCAN -> AUTH bwfm0: begin active scan bwfm0: AUTH -> SCAN bwfm0: end active scan bwfm0: + f0:af:85:9a:e4:23 112 +191 54M ess privacy rsn "Vodafone-7D3A_5G" bwfm0: SCAN -> AUTH bwfm0: begin active scan bwfm0: AUTH -> SCAN bwfm0: end active scan bwfm0: + f0:af:85:9a:e4:23 112 +190 54M ess privacy rsn "Vodafone-7D3A_5G" bwfm0: SCAN -> AUTH bwfm0: begin active scan bwfm0: AUTH -> SCAN bwfm0: end active scan bwfm0: + f0:af:85:9a:e4:23 112 +191 54M ess privacy rsn "Vodafone-7D3A_5G" bwfm0: SCAN -> AUTH bwfm0: begin active scan bwfm0: AUTH -> SCAN bwfm0: end active scan bwfm0: + f0:af:85:9a:e4:23 112 +190 54M ess privacy rsn "Vodafone-7D3A_5G" bwfm0: SCAN -> AUTH bwfm0: begin active scan bwfm0: AUTH -> SCAN bwfm0: end active scan bwfm0: + f0:af:85:9a:e4:23 112 +189 54M ess privacy rsn "Vodafone-7D3A_5G" bwfm0: SCAN -> AUTH bwfm0: begin active scan bwfm0: AUTH -> SCAN bwfm0: end active scan bwfm0: + f0:af:85:9a:e4:23 112 +190 54M ess privacy rsn "Vodafone-7D3A_5G" bwfm0: SCAN -> AUTH bwfm0: begin active scan bwfm0: AUTH -> SCAN bwfm0: end active scan bwfm0: + f0:af:85:9a:e4:23 112 +191 54M ess privacy rsn "Vodafone-7D3A_5G" bwfm0: SCAN -> AUTH bwfm0: begin active scan bwfm0: AUTH -> SCAN bwfm0: end active scan bwfm0: + f0:af:85:9a:e4:23 112 +191 54M ess privacy rsn "Vodafone-7D3A_5G" bwfm0: SCAN -> AUTH bwfm0: begin active scan bwfm0: AUTH -> SCAN bwfm0: end active scan bwfm0: + f0:af:85:9a:e4:23 112 +190 54M ess privacy rsn "Vodafone-7D3A_5G" bwfm0: SCAN -> AUTH bwfm0: begin active scan bwfm0: AUTH -> SCAN bwfm0: end active scan bwfm0: + f0:af:85:9a:e4:23 112 +191 54M ess privacy rsn "Vodafone-7D3A_5G" bwfm0: SCAN -> AUTH bwfm0: begin active scan bwfm0: AUTH -> SCAN bwfm0: end active scan bwfm0: + f0:af:85:9a:e4:23 112 +190 54M ess privacy rsn "Vodafone-7D3A_5G" bwfm0: SCAN -> AUTH bwfm0: begin active scan bwfm0: AUTH -> SCAN bwfm0: end active scan bwfm0: + f0:af:85:9a:e4:23 112 +191 54M ess privacy rsn "Vodafone-7D3A_5G" bwfm0: SCAN -> AUTH bwfm0: begin active scan bwfm0: AUTH -> SCAN bwfm0: end active scan bwfm0: + f0:af:85:9a:e4:23 112 +191 54M ess privacy rsn "Vodafone-7D3A_5G" bwfm0: SCAN -> AUTH bwfm0: begin active scan bwfm0: AUTH -> SCAN bwfm0: end active scan bwfm0: + f0:af:85:9a:e4:23 112 +190 54M ess privacy rsn "Vodafone-7D3A_5G" bwfm0: SCAN -> AUTH bwfm0: begin active scan bwfm0: AUTH -> SCAN bwfm0: end active scan bwfm0: + f0:af:85:9a:e4:23 112 +191 54M ess privacy rsn "Vodafone-7D3A_5G" bwfm0: SCAN -> AUTH bwfm0: begin active scan bwfm0: AUTH -> SCAN bwfm0: end active scan bwfm0: + f0:af:85:9a:e4:23 112 +191 54M ess privacy rsn "Vodafone-7D3A_5G" bwfm0: SCAN -> AUTH bwfm0: begin active scan bwfm0: AUTH -> SCAN bwfm0: end active scan bwfm0: + f0:af:85:9a:e4:23 112 +190 54M ess privacy rsn "Vodafone-7D3A_5G" bwfm0: SCAN -> AUTH bwfm0: begin active scan bwfm0: AUTH -> SCAN bwfm0: end active scan bwfm0: + f0:af:85:9a:e4:23 112 +192 54M ess privacy rsn "Vodafone-7D3A_5G" bwfm0: SCAN -> AUTH bwfm0: begin active scan bwfm0: AUTH -> SCAN Best regards Stanislav Syekirin On Di, 9 Apr 2024 09:00:29 +0200 Stefan Sperling wrote: On Mon, Apr 08, 2024 at 11:30:07PM +0200, Stanislav Syekirin wrote: This is my /etc/hostname.bwfm0: Please add a line saying 'debug' at the top if hostname.bwfm0: debug join NETWORK_IN_QUESTION_5G wpakey PASSWORD inet6 autoconf inet autoconf I would appreciate any suggestions. Show us what is printed in dmesg with debug enabled when it fails to connect. Among other info it shows scan results. Does your AP appear in the list?
Wireless network with bfwm sometimes works and sometimes doesn't
Hi all, I'm not sure how to debug this systematically. I have OpenBSD 7.5 on Raspberry Pi 4 (but I had the same problem with 7.4 as well). Sometimes the computer connects to the wireless network at boot, and sometimes it doesn't, without any obvious pattern. Whenever it connects, it works fine and doesn't seem to be flaky or unusually slow, though I didn't measure. If it doesn't connect, despairingly calling `doas sh /etc/netstart bwfm0` or `doas ifconfig bwfm0 inet autoconf` sometimes helps, but more often doesn't. Other computers connected to the same network don't seem to be affected. This is what the output of ping looks like when it doesn't connect: PING 192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1): 56 data bytes ping: sendmsg: Can't assign requested address (these two lines repeat until I ^C) --- 192.168.0.1 ping statistics --- 9 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss This is what the output of `ifconfig bwfm0` looks like when it doesn't connect: bwfm0: flags=a48843 mtu 1500 lladdr e4:5f:01:4d:c2:2c index 4 priority 4 llprio 3 groups: wlan media: IEEE802.11 autoselect (OFDM6 mode 11a) status: no network ieee80211: join NETWORK_IN_QUESTION_5G chan 112 bssid f0:af:85:9a:e4:23 -69dBm wpakey wpaprotos wpa2 wpaakms psk wpaciphers ccmp wpagroupcipher ccmp inet6 fe80::e65f:1ff:fe4d:c22c%bwfm0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 This is my /etc/hostname.bwfm0: join NETWORK_IN_QUESTION_5G wpakey PASSWORD inet6 autoconf inet autoconf I would appreciate any suggestions. Regards Stanislav Syekirin
Re: hardware
On Mi, 19 Apr 2023 12:51:02 +1000 David Diggles wrote: On 2023-04-19 01:40, folly bololey wrote: It doesn't matter whether the cat is black or white, as long as it catches mice. Black cat is more stealthy just a different hunting strategy and depends on the lighting. white cats would be stealthier in snow, or ambushing from above in the day time. To be honest I didn't know it was possible to install OpenBSD on a cat.
Re: Questions about man gcc-local
The people on clang architectures need to know that the gcc systems are different, that different decisions have been made. Education is way more important than consistancy. I'm all for being educated about differences between architectures. I think the current manual pages don't achieve it in this particular regard. They don't, as far as I see, mention anywhere that there even *are* gcc systems as opposed to clang systems. I've only learned about it from this mailing list and from blog entries by Frederic Cambus. This manual page is not hurting you. It does cause confusion (e.g. I see no way to find out from the manual pages on which platforms the GNU assembler is part of the system and on which platforms it is not; removing the man pages for certain platforms might not be the solution, but the problem is real). Regards Stanislav On Fr, 03 Mär 2023 09:43:16 -0700 Theo de Raadt wrote: And I think you are INCORRECT. The #1 reason to make a manual page visible is for learning. The people on clang architectures need to know that the gcc systems are different, that different decisions have been made. Education is way more important than consistancy. "Stanislav Syekirin" wrote: I agree. I would expect man pages for as(1), gcc(1), gcc-local(1) etc. to be present if as and gcc are present, and absent if they are absent. Or, alternatively, gcc-local(1) should document which platforms use gcc and which don't. Regards Stanislav On Do, 2 Mär 2023 22:47:08 + Jason McIntyre wrote: > i don;t think we should be installing gcc-local(1) on any archs > where > gcc isnt happening: > $ uname -a > OpenBSD manila.kerhand.co.uk 7.2 GENERIC.MP#22 amd64 > $ man gcc > man: No entry for gcc in the manual. > jmc >
Re: BSD and kubernetes
Depends of what kind of integration. I've seen a post about running Kubernetes under VMM: https://www.h-i-r.net/2023/02/running-kubernetes-cluster-with-openbsd.html. Maybe it does what you need. Regards On Sa, 4 Mär 2023 02:33:25 +0800 Ken Young wrote: Hello, I am a BSD user and also a user of kubernetes. It seems the BSD community has no much interest in docker/k8s integration. Is it true? and why? Thanks.
Re: Questions about man gcc-local
I agree. I would expect man pages for as(1), gcc(1), gcc-local(1) etc. to be present if as and gcc are present, and absent if they are absent. Or, alternatively, gcc-local(1) should document which platforms use gcc and which don't. Regards Stanislav On Do, 2 Mär 2023 22:47:08 + Jason McIntyre wrote: i don;t think we should be installing gcc-local(1) on any archs where gcc isnt happening: $ uname -a OpenBSD manila.kerhand.co.uk 7.2 GENERIC.MP#22 amd64 $ man gcc man: No entry for gcc in the manual. jmc
Re: Questions about man gcc-local
On Do, 2 Mär 2023 22:22:51 - (UTC) Stuart Henderson wrote: Archs which still use gcc in base do have the gcc(1) manual, e.g. sparc64 Thanks for the answer. However, https://man.openbsd.org/OpenBSD-7.2/sparc64/gcc is empty as well. I, sadly, don't have an actual sparc64 machine so don't know what happens there. Regards Stanislav
Questions about man gcc-local
Hi all, is the man page for gcc-local (https://man.openbsd.org/OpenBSD-7.2/gcc-local) up to date? It mentions, for example, i386, but OpenBSD 7.2 on i386 doesn't seem to include gcc. Also, the link to gcc(1) at the bottom of the man page is dead. Regards Stanislav
Re: Which assembler does clang on OpenBSD use?
Thanks for your answer. I additionaly checked the binaries produced on
i386 (the binary produced with -integrated-as is identical to the one
produced with no additional options but different from the one
produces with -no-integrated-as). I also found that on aarch64, GNU as
is not installed at all (I falsely assumed it would be there because
the corresponding man page is there). This confirms what you are
saying.
Regards
Stanislav
On Mi, 1 Mär 2023 14:20:34 - (UTC)
Stuart Henderson wrote:
On 2023-03-01, Stanislav Syekirin
wrote:
Hi,
clang can use its integrated assembler or some other assembler (GNU
as, I presume). How do I find out which one is used by default? The
man page only says: "Whether the integrated assembler is on by
default
is target dependent". My platforms are aarch64 and i386, if it
helps.
AFAIK the OpenBSD architectures which use clang to compile the main
OS are all also using the integrated assembler. (Not sure if sparc64
does but in that case, while LLVM/clang are built, they aren't yet
used to build the OS).
I'm not sure if it's documented anywhere, I didn't find it.
But llvm/lib/MC/MCAsmInfo.cpp has this comment
// - Solaris always enables the integrated assembler by default
// - SparcELFMCAsmInfo and X86ELFMCAsmInfo are handling this case
// - Windows always enables the integrated assembler by default
// - MCAsmInfoCOFF is handling this case, should it be
MCAsmInfoMicrosoft?
// - MachO targets always enables the integrated assembler by
default
// - MCAsmInfoDarwin is handling this case
// - Generic_GCC toolchains enable the integrated assembler on a
per
// architecture basis.
// - The target subclasses for AArch64, ARM, and X86 handle these
cases
and clang/lib/Driver/ToolChains/Gnu.cpp has
bool Generic_GCC::IsIntegratedAssemblerDefault() const {
switch (getTriple().getArch()) {
case llvm::Triple::x86:
case llvm::Triple::x86_64:
case llvm::Triple::aarch64:
case llvm::Triple::aarch64_be:
case llvm::Triple::arm:
case llvm::Triple::armeb:
case llvm::Triple::avr:
case llvm::Triple::bpfel:
case llvm::Triple::bpfeb:
case llvm::Triple::thumb:
case llvm::Triple::thumbeb:
case llvm::Triple::ppc:
case llvm::Triple::ppcle:
case llvm::Triple::ppc64:
case llvm::Triple::ppc64le:
case llvm::Triple::riscv32:
case llvm::Triple::riscv64:
case llvm::Triple::systemz:
case llvm::Triple::mips:
case llvm::Triple::mipsel:
case llvm::Triple::mips64:
case llvm::Triple::mips64el:
case llvm::Triple::msp430:
case llvm::Triple::m68k:
return true;
case llvm::Triple::sparc:
case llvm::Triple::sparcel:
case llvm::Triple::sparcv9:
if (getTriple().isOSFreeBSD() ||
getTriple().isOSSolaris())
return true;
return false;
default:
return false;
}
}
--
Please keep replies on the mailing list.
Which assembler does clang on OpenBSD use?
Hi, clang can use its integrated assembler or some other assembler (GNU as, I presume). How do I find out which one is used by default? The man page only says: "Whether the integrated assembler is on by default is target dependent". My platforms are aarch64 and i386, if it helps. Regards Stanislav
Re: Android (MTP) with OpenBSD: Tiny success story
devel/adb was installed successfully (OpenBSD 6.6). Sorry for that fisrt comment. Then I just got fresh ports. This new report is actual. Adb tool works fine! I made several tests for shell, pull, backup, reboot. The device is the same: mentioned by me before for described umass-method. Android: 4.1.2, baseband & build: Apr 1 2013 -- Sent from: http://openbsd-archive.7691.n7.nabble.com/openbsd-user-misc-f3.html
Re: Display flickers after upgrade to 6.6
Yes, I have customized xorg.conf via /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/intel.conf : Section "Device" Identifier "drm0" Driver "intel" Option "TearFree" "true" EndSection I checked /var/log/Xorg.0.log, "intel" driver works without errors. Unfortunately I did not solve the problem modifying this configuration file. P.S. The https://man.openbsd.org/intel page mentions "XV_SYNC_TO_VBLANK". Even if it might be solution, actually I m not sure I can set this attribute. On 10-01-2020 20:58, Dumitru Moldovan wrote: On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 10:18:51AM -0700, Stanislav wrote: I have got weak flickering of XFCE too (after upgrade to 6.6). Mentioned setting the method for vblank does not fix it. Turning on/off compositor does not help too. Any ideas? Have you tried customizing xorg.conf? This /etc/X11/xorg.conf works for me in 6.6 with the Radeon HD 4200 video chipset from my old desktop: Section "Device" Identifier "drm0" Driver "radeon" Option "AccelMethod" "glamor" Option "DRI" "3" Option "TearFree" "On" Option "SWCursor" "true" EndSection Still getting a bit of glitches when resuming, but mostly just for the current window (the terminal) and it's usually enough to change the active "window" in tmux to get rid of it. Rarely do I have to change to console and back with CTRL-ALT-F1 and CTRL-ALT-F5. Had more issues with the older driver (and default settings), so I'm actually happy with the upgrade in this regard.
Re: Display flickers after upgrade to 6.6
I have got weak flickering of XFCE too (after upgrade to 6.6). Mentioned setting the method for vblank does not fix it. Turning on/off compositor does not help too. Any ideas? - Best Regards, Stanislav Gilmulin -- Sent from: http://openbsd-archive.7691.n7.nabble.com/openbsd-user-misc-f3.html
Re: Android (MTP) with OpenBSD: Tiny success story
Let me tell misc@ about this case with Samsung GN7000 (2011). simple-mtpfs does not work with this phone. MTP connection is established but transferring is empty. umass works fine (OpenBSD 6.4, 6.5, 6.6). "Settings" -> "USB Computer Connection". When this mode is activated on the connected phone, the commands are smth might be like these: $ tail /var/log/messages | grep sd2 # disklabel sd2 # mount -t msdos /dev/sd2i /mnt/android devel/adb port can not be installed as is due to "libraries do not match" error (OpenBSD 6.6). Actually I have caught the behavior recently and I have not investigated it yet. - Best Regards, Stanislav Gilmulin -- Sent from: http://openbsd-archive.7691.n7.nabble.com/openbsd-user-misc-f3.html
Re: What is you motivational to use OpenBSD
I consider my way as quite typical path to become OpenBSD-newbie. 1.5 years ago I decided to remove Windows 10 from my home notebook. Why not Linux? I have own experience in using Linux distros for work/home purposes on many machines. Actually Im not advanced but I pretend to have the confident opinion. At the first stage I made smth like table about well-known modern GNU\Linux distros with the pros and cons. I hoped to catch optimal solution for non-specific purposes. This approach failed due to classical "linux is a mess". I finished the review deciding to install Debian if OpenBSD-try fails on my notebook. Generally "Linux" is practically more convenient distro at the moment, but there are bad trends in linux world too as I see. Second, If I need to explain my final decision based on its esthetic component I declare that I want the elegant system with own straight way according to my understanding. I love holistic and consistent things. Why not FreeBSD? I was running it as desktop in 2007 on my home PC and I had few episodes with maintaining it remotely and as half-dead body in DC. Good modern system. It has own strong features and advantages. But none of them helps to choose FreeBSD as desktop or laptop in 2018 without any doubts. I think its true (IMHO) in 2020 too. Finally, I observe smth like crisis in FreeBSD's growth. Its future is not clear. Of course, future is not absolutely clear always and everywhere, but Im sure you understand what I mean. Sorry, FreeBSD-people. Let me stop to list rejected systems here. The full list of technical points I compared is too boring. And, of course, small note is not good option to tell why I reject each specific distro. OpenBSD was just experiment. I wanted to test it. Now I stay with OpenBSD. It is cool. OK, so, this experiment has the result. I tend to call it positive. The migration from Windows 10 to OpenBSD 6.4 completed successfully in short time (week). I guarantee that the function volume and comfort have not decreased dramatically. What I have got now as profit? First of all, I think it is not correct when one writes similar report in economic terms. OpenBSD project is not commercial. It is not product I think. For me it is interesting project with strong basement consisted of clear principles, strong team, long history, own community and clear future. In Linux area we have got huge size of community, and for practical purposes it is optimal to be with Linux, because scale helps user to find answers, it provides wide spectra of software for every task. In OpenBSD users has got not so rich economics. The obvious fact is "if you want your best system you need to contribute and to do smth for the project". So, what is my profit (vs Windows)? I have old-school transparent OS: https://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#46 https://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#45 https://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#61 My computer works fully on my own tasks; my data is only my data; unix-way; correctness; proactive security; controlled reboot and update; I have not extra and imposed stuff. I thank all participants of the OpenBSD project (developers, devops etc) and all OpenBSD users. I thank OpenBSD Foundation and its contributors for their help. Disclaimer. I love Windows and I continue using it due to current work. Windows is product for certain areas. OpenBSD and Windows are not competitors. But OpenBSD is quite universal instrument and I hope to install it instead of Windows soon where it is depends on me and if it is possible technically and legally. The reason why I will do it is just desire to increase experience for the project. Few words additionally. To be honest I have to say that I use wi-fi via usb-adapter because my on-board card doesn't work here. If you migrate please check you hardware using available information. The situation is very good, you have good chances to launch OpenBSD without appearing troubles. Perhaps, the another option would be to build the best configuration for your OpenBSD-PC. Share your experience ! - Best Regards, Stanislav Gilmulin -- Sent from: http://openbsd-archive.7691.n7.nabble.com/openbsd-user-misc-f3.html
ipsec, add another ciphers and authentication types
� Hi! Who added his/external authentication types ans encryption algorithm to IPSec in OpenBSD?Have you seen examples or articles on this topic? Whether there is a?� �
Re: rtwn
OK. What can I do? Could you recommend an action I can make? Is it normal if I just wait for new version of rtwn? Or does this situation mean that mentioned card probably never will be supported? I have searched similar cases. Stefan Sperling's report at EuroBSDcon2017: "Sometimes just adding a new PCI/USB device ID is enough to extend device support of an existing driver". Or the problem is more complicated and driver is not ready to work with the device. Is it? What can I research? -- Sent from: http://openbsd-archive.7691.n7.nabble.com/openbsd-user-misc-f3.html
Get status about ipsec throught snmpd.
Hi!
We are testing OpenBSD v6 for emmbedded devices and would like get status
about IPsec from snmpd. In the OPENBSD-BASE-MIB.txt file, I saw the line
"- ipsecMIBObjects OBJECT IDENTIFIER :: = {openBSD 4}".
How is it possible to determine the status (OID) for snmpd?
Thank you!
PERC6 and PE1950
Hello all: I know this has been discussed here before but last I heard people continue to have issues with new PE1950. I'd like to have a positive confirmation that new mfi driver will support PERC6i from Marco or someone who actually has new 1.16 driver working with it before we make a purchase. Thank you, Stas. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: PE1950
We have a few PE1950s and they all came with PERC5 but the new ones I've been quoting up are PERC6's. So it definitely a new addition. PERC6 does not work yet with out mfi driver but I am also pretty sure those aren't really available yet. I'm confused. So does it or does it not work with mfi driver? thank you, Stas. - Original Message From: Claer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: misc@openbsd.org Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 3:44:01 AM Subject: Re: PE1950 On Wed, Nov 21 2007 at 56:15, Marco Peereboom wrote: This machines works fine with 4.2. PERC6 does not work yet with out mfi driver but I am also pretty sure those aren't really available yet. The last PE 1950 we bought (2 months ago) came with PERC 5. I heard that new hardware should arrive near december for the PE 1950. Claer On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 09:55:54AM -0800, Stanislav Ovcharenko wrote: Hello, I'm planning on running OpenBSD 4.2 on Dell Power Edge 1950. Question 1: How stable is it on x64 platform? I mean native 64 bit code. I assume that x86 code will run just fine ... Question 2: Does anyone know if PERC 6 RAID controller is supported. The hardware list says that it will work with PERC 5 and I'm wondering if the same driver will detect and support the chipset on PERC 6 controller. Any feedback would be appreciated. Regards, Stas. Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ
PE1950
Hello, I'm planning on running OpenBSD 4.2 on Dell Power Edge 1950. Question 1: How stable is it on x64 platform? I mean native 64 bit code. I assume that x86 code will run just fine ... Question 2: Does anyone know if PERC 6 RAID controller is supported. The hardware list says that it will work with PERC 5 and I'm wondering if the same driver will detect and support the chipset on PERC 6 controller. Any feedback would be appreciated. Regards, Stas. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: apr proxy problem
yeah well, the problem is really with one of the windows servers in a NLB multicast cluster. Two identically configured (to my knowledge) VPN servers have two different IP address pools for incoming connections and the problem is that one server once the connection is established responds to ARP requests for the client IP with correct true interface MAC and the other server responds with virtual cluster MAC. ARP proxy seems to be a working remedy for this issue but in reality it's not a solution. If I could find out why BSD overwrites static arp entries I can let this issue with VPN cook a little longer. regards, S. - Original Message From: Bryan Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Stanislav Ovcharenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: misc@openbsd.org Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2007 1:09:16 AM Subject: Re: apr proxy problem On 9/5/07, Stanislav Ovcharenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to have ARP proxy running on my router/firewall loaded with OpenBSD 4.0. I'm seeing some behavior that is contradictory to what arp man page says. arp -an | grep em1 says (111.111.111.111) at 00:cc:00:cc:00:cc on em1 permanent static published and than ... cat /var/log/messages | grep em1 tells me that Sep 5 14:11:11 XXXYYY /bsd: arp info overwritten for 111.111.111.111 by 00:aa:00:aa:00:aa on em1 which is contrary to what arp man page says about permanent attribute and what one would expect. any info why this is happening would be greatly appreciated, thanks for looking. I had nothing but problems when trying to use arp proxy. I'd ditch it and try something else (if possible). What's the eventual goal? --Bryan _ ___ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/
Re: filesystems?
I certainly wouldn't try writing to NTFS filesystem on any system other then
winnt especially in production.
I don't think it's actually possible to
shrink NTFS partition in a Microsoft supported way only extend it with
diskpart.
S.
- Original Message
From: Darren Spruell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jona Joachim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Misc OpenBSD
misc@openbsd.org
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2007 1:47:31 PM
Subject: Re:
filesystems?
On 9/6/07, Jona Joachim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 6 Sep
2007 07:11:47 -0700
J.C. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 04 September 2007, Jona Joachim wrote:
On Mon, 3 Sep 2007
18:17:44 +0200
Martin SchrC6der [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2007/9/3, The One [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
FAT32.
And everyone can be compiled to read NTFS; Linux can even write to
it.
FreeBSD can also write NTFS using the ntfs-3g driver
together with
fusefs.
Jona
Actually, this is
tenative at best. Though some have had success both
reading from and
writing to various NTFS versions, it's not really a
safe thing to do. It's
still an undocumented file system, and many
typical operations fail
disastrously. This week I wasted two
different XP installations by
attempting to resize the NTFS partition
(shrink) with two different open
source tools (PartitionLogic and
GParted).
I never really used it, I
think I just tested it once.
On their site they say: The driver is in
STABLE status since February
2007, after twelve years of development so I
thought it was ok.
I had some terrible crashes with sshfs on FreeBSD. I
think the FreeBSD
fuse kernel module is a bit flaky. I never tried it on
Linux.
How stable a driver is doesn't indicate the actual level of success
writing {safely,properly,sanely} to a problematic filesystem.like
NTFS. It may
successfully corrupt data without crashing or throwing
errors at all.
DS
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apr proxy problem
I need to have ARP proxy running on my router/firewall loaded with OpenBSD 4.0. I'm seeing some behavior that is contradictory to what arp man page says. arp -an | grep em1 says (111.111.111.111) at 00:cc:00:cc:00:cc on em1 permanent static published and than ... cat /var/log/messages | grep em1 tells me that Sep 5 14:11:11 XXXYYY /bsd: arp info overwritten for 111.111.111.111 by 00:aa:00:aa:00:aa on em1 which is contrary to what arp man page says about permanent attribute and what one would expect. any info why this is happening would be greatly appreciated, thanks for looking. _ ___ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=graduation+giftscs=bz
