Re: OpenBSD in commercial firewalls?
James Harless wrote: I know that several firewall vendors use various flavors of Linux as the basis for their devices. Are there any that use OpenBSD similarly? If so, which? Any comments on the devices? Links would be appreciated. -James One I can remember is at http://www.air-lok.com/ mike
Re: mozilla-firefox problem, was: kdeinit problems in 3.7-current
matt lawless wrote: On 7/17/05, Bruno Delbono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How does mozilla-firefox perform on OpenBSD? Are there any differences in performance compared to Linux/Windows? pkg/DESCR says that extensions don't work. Has anyone had any luck with changing that? some do, at least on 1.01 (or whatever the default version on 3.7 is) I have adblock, proxychanger & webdeveloper working (though some of webdeveloper such as edit css, view javascript, view css lock firefox up) I haven't tried any others, I wasn't even aware it was an issue. I have a self-compiled 1.0.2 or .3 running on 3.7 with some extensions, if I remember correctly I had to download the relevant .xpi and install it from disk, trying to install directly from web would hang firefox.
Re: Writes to samba server very, very slow
Nick Holland wrote: Gary Clemans-Gibbon wrote: Hi All, I just built a OpenBSD 3.7 samba file server for my home lan. It's a P3 500, 128mb RAM, with a 2 gig IDE HDD for the OS and two x Maxtor 200 GB IDE drives for data. whoa. no where near enough RAM. Trip over the power cord, you will end up swapping during fsck. That will be most unpleasant. Assuming you have the swap available. (also assuming you have big partitions) 128M of RAM is large for a home firewall. 200G is a large amount of disk space, period. 2x200G is a huge amount of storage. Pair it up with some real RAM. In fact, if you are after balance, you will want about 1G of RAM, that won't be fun on that system, I suspect. Nick, the FAQ which you refer to mentions 1M per 1G of storage, so that's not really 1G of RAM for this system, is it? or is there a reason I'm missing? I am curious as I have a number of lower-end file-serving systems with 200G - 500G and usually 256M RAM and have never been bit by a fsck slowdown, even rebuilding raidframe parity is tolerable. Granted I have partitions usually smaller than 50G and a system partition smaller than 10G in most cases. Is this the difference? mike
rtl8139 problem on 3.8 bsd.rd
Trying to test the snapshots but the last two bsd.rd's seem to fail on
rl0 detection at boot.
bsd.rd from 14.08 exits with a dump error 19 at the end of hardware
detection.
bsd.rd from 22.08 comes up but the rl0 is not configured. nor does it
seem possible to do anything to change that.
The rl in question is a PCMCIA Surecom Ep-428x\4b but was working fine
until now, since 3.6 or so when I replaced the internal mini-pci xl
mike
OpenBSD 3.8-beta (RAMDISK_CD) #775: Mon Aug 22 23:10:54 MDT 2005
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/RAMDISK_CD
cpu0: Intel Pentium III ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 752 MHz
cpu0:
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE
real mem = 536301568 (523732K)
avail mem = 483479552 (472148K)
using 4278 buffers containing 26918912 bytes (26288K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(00) BIOS, date 07/08/03, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xffe90
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
apm0: flags 30102 dobusy 0 doidle 1
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0x1
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfbd80/176 (9 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:07:0 ("Intel 82371 ISA and IDE"
rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #3 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x1
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel 82443BX AGP" rev 0x03
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 "Intel 82443BX AGP" rev 0x03
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "ATI Mobility M3" rev 0x02
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
cbb0 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 "Texas Instruments PCI1420 CardBus" rev
0x00: irq 11
cbb1 at pci0 dev 3 function 1 "Texas Instruments PCI1420 CardBus" rev
0x00: irq 11
pcib0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 "Intel 82371AB PIIX4 ISA" rev 0x02
pciide0 at pci0 dev 7 function 1 "Intel 82371AB IDE" rev 0x01: DMA,
channel 0 wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0:
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 38204MB, 78242976 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: SCSI0
5/cdrom removable
cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
uhci0 at pci0 dev 7 function 2 "Intel 82371AB USB" rev 0x01: irq 11
usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
"Intel 82371AB Power" rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 7 function 3 not configured
"ESS Maestro 3" rev 0x10 at pci0 dev 8 function 0 not configured
cardslot0 at cbb0 slot 0 flags 0
cardbus0 at cardslot0: bus 2 device 0 cacheline 0x8, lattimer 0x20
pcmcia0 at cardslot0
cardslot1 at cbb1 slot 1 flags 0
cardbus1 at cardslot1: bus 3 device 0 cacheline 0x8, lattimer 0x20
pcmcia1 at cardslot1
isa0 at pcib0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: using exception 16
pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2
biomask ffed netmask ffed ttymask ffef
rd0: fixed, 3800 blocks
Realtek, Rtl8139, \M^? "Realtek 8139" rev 0x10 at cardbus1 dev 0
function 0 not configured
dkcsum: wd0 matches BIOS drive 0x80
root on rd0a
rootdev=0x1100 rrootdev=0x2f00 rawdev=0x2f02
OpenBSD 3.7-stable (GENERIC) #1: Sat Jul 30 02:53:03 CEST 2005
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel Pentium III ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 752 MHz
cpu0:
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE
real mem = 536301568 (523732K)
avail mem = 482574336 (471264K)
using 4278 buffers containing 26918912 bytes (26288K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(00) BIOS, date 07/08/03, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xffe90
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0x1
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfbd80/176 (9 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:07:0 ("Intel 82371 ISA and IDE"
rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #3 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x1
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel 82443BX AGP" rev 0x03
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 "Intel 82443BX AGP" rev 0x03
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "ATI Mobility M3" rev 0x02
wsdisplay0 at vga1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
cbb0 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 "Texas Instruments PCI1420 CardBus" rev
0x00: irq 11
cbb1 at pci0 dev 3 function 1 "Texas Instruments PCI1420 CardBus" rev
0x00: irq 11
pcib0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 "Intel 82371AB PIIX4 ISA" rev 0x02
pciide0 at pci0 dev 7 function 1 "Intel 82371AB IDE" rev 0x01: DMA,
channel 0 wired to compatibil
Re: IDE RAID5
Steve Shockley wrote: Thorsten Glaser wrote: (How about Microsoft NT and Linux, which also do software RAID? I'm 90% sure that NT mirrors can be moved to different hardware, as long as the disk geometry stays the same. I'm less sure about Raid 5, but in theory it should work as well. Of course, even moving a single IDE disk may or may not work, depending on how your controller drivers are configured. (There's a KB article on this.) I would say that probably depends a lot on the partinioning, if you have a single monolithic partition, you might be ok. If like me you like to make a lot of smaller partitions on a large disk, you're fscked. In the first case it will bite you anyway at some point. I doubt mirroring changes anything. Disk geom will depend on bios anyway and there's no way you can be sure it will remain the same. At least W2k has a very serious problem with reshuffling the disk partition names when moved from box to box, or even on the same box on a different channel, hell even on the same damn channel if you reinstall... I've done this a lot and it kills all your paths when you make sample based audio for example. To the best of my knowledge this was *never* addressed, I doubt XP did anything to that effect.
Re: Hardware RAID
Karl Kopp wrote: Hi Jason, Like yr idea - LOTS :) We may still use a disk for some logs, but if that goes, no big deal! Any idea how to mount a CF as a boot device? Quick search on Google didn't bring much back of interest. Is their a faq / how-to? Also, what kinds of CF adapters work - anything I should be looking out for? I checked on the amd64 page on OpenBSD and it didn't specifically mention anything about CF devices. Any advice would be greatly appreciated :) Cheers, Karl http://www.pcengines.ch makes IDE CF adapters powered through either a HD or floppy connector, I have a few of these which seem to work well. You can get a reseller list from the website shop. It's pretty straightforward to set up a full OBSD system, just use mfs for var and temp. (from memory, for 3.6 there was a small change to make to rc to avoid double-mounted partitions, I'm not sure it's still necessary) this short doc outlines the install on CF: http://www.kaschwig.net/projects/openbsd/wrap/ cheers, mike
Re: The Name: UNIX
> > On 10/9/07, Sean Darby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Does OpenBSD = UNIX? Or, does OpenBSD = Unix? (or unix or unix-like or > > > etc.)? my mother recently called it "that Unisex thing you like", though am not sure of the capitalization :) mike
Re: How can I install 4 OS'es on one disk?
On 10/7/07, stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a new laptop that I would like to set up to have 4 different OS's > on. The OS's I would like to install are: > I used to favour the ranish partition manager for creating my primary partitions and assigning ids. the installers should pick up on the id automatically afterwards. it also has a basic bootloader. it's a floppy image but can be found as a boot option on a lot of recovery cds. mike
Re: low-MHz server
Personally, I would look into industrial-grade i386 SBCs. Old server systems will suck juice, have non-standard weird bits and odds (old Macs are a great example for RAM) and although I readily admit to knowing next to nothing about EM shielding, it would seem easier to shield properly a small box than a sprawling monstrosity. You can still get i386 systems at or below 200MHz from a bit of googling: http://www.advantech.gr/products/Model.asp-Category_ID=1-239XES&BU=ECG&PD=.htm or if you are feeling slightly more adventurous than i386 you might check OpenBSD/landisk or armish supported kit, although that might be a bit tight for python. anyway, hope you can find a good solution. mike
vpn altq voip question
Hi, I have a three site vpn on 4.2 with a voip enabled PBX on each lan, linked with SDSL lines. This works as expected. However, I need to prioritize the PBX to PBX traffic, they have fixed lan IPs, and am looking for pointers on the best way to accomplish this. After reading the docs, I am not quite clear on how to classify and queue the vpn traffic, so if anyone has advice or links to docs or sample pf.confs, it would be much appreciated, as testing on a live system is a bit hazardous. cheers, mike
Re: PC Camera?
I guess for security monitoring stuff, having a decent driver for a decent webcam would be nice. However, with the current trend to offload all peripheral processing onto the host CPU this can be a mixed blessing. For example, in '96 with a BW Quickcam my PC hardly broke sweat for videoconfrencing, fast forward 12 years and I can easily crash my dual-core AMD laptop by using its integrated webcam (CPU temp exceeds BIOS limits) under both linux and windows. Go figure. For that matter, if you read a bit about v4l supported devices, it does seem to be the habitual jungle, different chipsets in same models etc. For any serious application, I'd go with dedicated ip cams, at least it doesn't put additional load on your server. mike
Re: PC Camera?
Sure, I wasn't really thinking of bktr, which as I understand is a video capture card and as such has onboard electronics for image processing. Evidently, this in combo with a normal cam is the best in terms of resolution/low cpu load. I was aiming more for the post comparing 40$ usb webcam/100$ ip webcam and the original poster wanting simple surveillance. Ok, if you have a project where you need a 100 of the little buggers, you can probably find a decent one at an ok price and write a driver. For a one-off, the stuff that retails at 20$ in your local store is most probably a piece of crap. So IMO an ip cam and push/pull to your box makes more sense, and basically you do not want to do audio/video over the usb bus, ever. mike On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Jacob Meuser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I bet, to get the same resolution from an IP cam, I would be > using more resources. either a much higher network load (always > some network load ...), or cpu load to decompress the video. > of course, raw frames suck as far as storage/transmission is > concerned.
Re: jails in openbsd
On 3/2/07, Chris Cappuccio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > openbsd supposedly runs great under xen 3 with hardware virtualization. > > i'll let you know after i get xen 3 installed on a pentium d 920 with > some piece of shit OS running dom0. > > I had -current running under Debian/kvm off a file a few weeks ago on a > Turion. I think I actually managed to install it with xen but for some > reason it wouldn't boot afterwards, this is not OpenBSD specific, perhaps > just AMD/HVM support in xen is newer. Installing with qemu or kvm and then > running with xen seems to work ok, although to be fair my image file was > corrupt last time. Apparently, Dom0 was not that far away when I last > checked. cheers, mike
Re: Managed UPS on OpenBSD
djgoku wrote: First I would add NUT from packages, then follow: http://www.networkupstools.org/doc/2.0.0/INSTALL.html This should go through mostly everything you need to configure NUT to work with your UPS. I have this one: APC BACK-UPS 350. Although listed by my supplier as available both in USB and Serial versions, it's USB cabling only and comes with a US gift certificate for the serial cable, although when asked APC Europe sent me one rather quickly. The 500 is, I suspect, the same with a larger battery. However, this week I backported nut 2.0.3 for this box to try and get it up and running. It seems hidups/newhidups is linux only or at least not built on OpenBSD and is the necessary driver for this :( At least I can't get any communication with it, although I can't really check my cabling as I'm 2000km away. mike
Re: EPIA issues...
hw.sensors.9=viaenv0, VSENS4, volts_dc, 12.07 V the top temp. I have seen for TSENS2 is 60.60 degC. Does anyone else run a box similar to this? Does anyone know of any big advantages of Soekris boxes rather than EPIA? I've got a feeling the little box will just give up or even worse blow up. hi, I have a few m1's running fine with fans. IIRC, VIA for some reason dropped CPU temp from their last BIOS revisions. Go figure. I did some testing running it fanless with a larger heatsink (Zalman VGA originally) and it would get flaky above ~66 C with random hangs and reboots, so I stopped that. This is from memory. This would also depend in part on your case and power supply. Things you can try: - get a quieter fan, the original one is pretty crap. - get a larger heatsink, possibly voiding your warranty. - get a zalman fan mate (or similar) it goes between your fan and mainboard and allows fan speed to be regulated with a knob. A little airflow as opposed to none can make a big difference. you can check out the various projects on say mini-itx.com to get an idea how far people have pushed these boards. mike
Re: sshfs on OpenBSD
smith wrote: Are there any plans for an OpenBSD implementation of sshfs? Or has someone successfully installed fuse and sshfs on OpenBSD (preferably 3.8)? Yea, that would be very useful. Sadly, I have neither the skills nor the finances to fund someone possesing them. But I'll offer up a link: http://sshfs.com and major karma points in the next life ;) Apparently, someone started work on this, although I never saw any code there. Perhaps he still has something reuseable. Sounds good as a CS project. mike
Re: EPIA issues...
Steve Fairhead wrote: ... snip... Summary: with small fans, it should work, but you've introduced a mechanism whereby a fan failure could destroy the machine. Aha, I just knew there was more to my attraction to the zalman fan mate than my instinctive aversion to electricity since staying plugged in with my hand behind a bookcase at age 5. mike
Re: First install: Grub doesn't find partitions
is it a recent grub? if you're reading grub source I will assume you know more about it than I do, but am writing this on a box which boots debian/openbsd/xp without problems, from grub installed circa 6 months ago. I certainly did not dd any sectors around. I can send you my grub conf when I reboot next. mike
Re: detecting bad disks
try a new IDE cable or if you can take the system offline, and
assuming you can boot off cd/floppy I would suggest trying MHDD from
http://hddguru.com/ it does some pretty nice low-level diagnostics.
I've fixed some disks with this {crosses fingers}
docs are very basic but there's more info on the forum
http://forum.hddguru.com/?sid=9996c0fa3656ff12a72b5227b745a49b.
floppy and cd .iso here
http://hddguru.com/content/en/software/2006.02.10-Magic-Boot-Disk/
of course, be aware of what you're doing with these tools.
mike
Re: google team and the DIY way of life
> "Posted by Reza Behforooz, Software Engineer > > In my first month at Google, I complained to a friend on the Gmail > team about a couple of small things that I disliked about Gmail. I ... Dear Google, Could you get Reza to fix contact/label whitelisting in Gmail while he's at it? thanks, mike
Re: machine which freeze with openbsd 4.2
> This machine freezes if re0 is NOT forced to 100baseTX. same here on -current/amd64, forcing to 100baseTX solves it for me even with an OSX box next to it mike OpenBSD 4.2-current (GENERIC) #1239: Mon Nov 12 16:26:56 MST 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC real mem = 1073082368 (1023MB) avail mem = 1030537216 (982MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xf06e0 (53 entries) bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version "080012" date 07/04/2006 bios0: ASUSTeK Computer INC. A6Tc acpi at mainbus0 not configured cpu0 at mainbus0: (uniprocessor) cpu0: AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-50, 1607.52 MHz cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,CX16,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW cpu0: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 256KB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache cpu0: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative cpu0: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 "NVIDIA C51 Host" rev 0xa2 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 not configured "NVIDIA C51 Memory" rev 0xa2 at pci0 dev 0 function 1 not configured "NVIDIA C51 Memory" rev 0xa2 at pci0 dev 0 function 2 not configured "NVIDIA C51 Memory" rev 0xa2 at pci0 dev 0 function 3 not configured "NVIDIA C51 Memory" rev 0xa2 at pci0 dev 0 function 4 not configured "NVIDIA C51 Memory" rev 0xa2 at pci0 dev 0 function 5 not configured "NVIDIA C51 Memory" rev 0xa2 at pci0 dev 0 function 6 not configured "NVIDIA C51 Memory" rev 0xa2 at pci0 dev 0 function 7 not configured ppb0 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 "NVIDIA C51 PCIE" rev 0xa1 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 re0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "Realtek 8168" rev 0x01: RTL8168 2 (0x3800), irq 11, address 00:18:f3:52:7b:0a rgephy0 at re0 phy 7: RTL8169S/8110S PHY, rev. 2 ppb1 at pci0 dev 4 function 0 "NVIDIA C51 PCIE" rev 0xa1 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 vga1 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 "NVIDIA GeForce 7300 Go" rev 0xa1 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) "NVIDIA MCP51 Host" rev 0xa2 at pci0 dev 9 function 0 not configured pcib0 at pci0 dev 10 function 0 "NVIDIA MCP51 ISA" rev 0xa3 nviic0 at pci0 dev 10 function 1 "NVIDIA MCP51 SMBus" rev 0xa3 iic0 at nviic0 maxtmp0 at iic0 addr 0x4c: max6657 spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 1GB DDR2 SDRAM non-parity PC2-5300CL5 SO-DIMM iic1 at nviic0 "NVIDIA MCP51 PMU" rev 0xa3 at pci0 dev 10 function 3 not configured ohci0 at pci0 dev 11 function 0 "NVIDIA MCP51 USB" rev 0xa3: irq 11, version 1.0, legacy support ehci0 at pci0 dev 11 function 1 "NVIDIA MCP51 USB" rev 0xa3: irq 7 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 "NVIDIA EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 pciide0 at pci0 dev 13 function 0 "NVIDIA MCP51 IDE" rev 0xa1: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: SCSI0 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 wd0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0: wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 76319MB, 156301488 sectors wd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5 ppb2 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 "NVIDIA MCP51 PCI-PCI" rev 0xa2 pci3 at ppb2 bus 3 cbb0 at pci3 dev 1 function 0 "Ricoh 5C476 CardBus" rev 0xb3: irq 11 "Ricoh 5C552 Firewire" rev 0x08 at pci3 dev 1 function 1 not configured sdhc0 at pci3 dev 1 function 2 "Ricoh 5C822 SD/MMC" rev 0x17: irq 5 sdmmc0 at sdhc0 "Ricoh 5C592 Memory Stick" rev 0x08 at pci3 dev 1 function 3 not configured bwi0 at pci3 dev 3 function 0 "Broadcom BCM4318" rev 0x02: irq 11, address 00:18:f3:46:29:40 cardslot0 at cbb0 slot 0 flags 0 cardbus0 at cardslot0: bus 4 device 0 cacheline 0x0, lattimer 0x40 pcmcia0 at cardslot0 azalia0 at pci0 dev 16 function 1 "NVIDIA MCP51 HD Audio" rev 0xa2: irq 10 azalia0: host: High Definition Audio rev. 1.0 azalia0: codec: Realtek/0x0861 (rev. 3.64), HDA version 1.0 azalia0: codec: Motorola/0x3055 (rev. 7.0), HDA version 1.0 azalia0: codec[1]: No support for modem function groups azalia0: codec[1]: No audio function groups audio0 at azalia0 pchb0 at pci0 dev 24 function 0 "AMD AMD64 HyperTransport" rev 0x00 pchb1 at pci0 dev 24 function 1 "AMD AMD64 Address Map" rev 0x00 pchb2 at pci0 dev 24 function 2 "AMD AMD64 DRAM Cfg" rev 0x00 pchb3 at pci0 dev 24 function 3 "AMD AMD64 Misc Cfg" rev 0x00 isa0 at pcib0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pmsi0 at pckbc0 (aux slot) pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot wsmouse0 at pmsi0 mux 0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: spkr0 at pcppi0 usb1 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 "NVIDIA OHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 ugen0 at uhub0 port 5 "Syntek USB2.0" rev 2.00/0.05 addr 2 uhidev0 at uhub1 port 3 configuration 1 interface 0 "L
trunk failover on -current problem
hi, I'm trying to do wired/wireless failover with dhcp on -current/amd64: $ cat /etc/hostname.re0 up media 100baseTX $ cat /etc/hostname.bwi0 up media DS11 nwid nwkey $ cat /etc/hostname.trunk0 trunkproto failover trunkport re0 trunkport bwi0 dhcp $ ifconfig lo0: flags=8049 mtu 33168 groups: lo inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 re0: flags=8943 mtu 1500 lladdr 00:18:f3:52:7b:0a trunk: trunkdev trunk0 media: Ethernet 100baseTX (100baseTX half-duplex) status: active inet6 fe80::218:f3ff:fe52:7b0a%re0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 bwi0: flags=8943 mtu 1500 lladdr 00:18:f3:52:7b:0a trunk: trunkdev trunk0 groups: wlan media: IEEE802.11 DS11 (DS11 mode 11b) status: active ieee80211: nwid chan 2 bssid 00:0e:2e:8a:91:d2 26dB nwkey inet6 fe80::218:f3ff:fe46:2940%bwi0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 enc0: flags=0<> mtu 1536 trunk0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 lladdr 00:18:f3:52:7b:0a trunk: trunkproto failover trunkport bwi0 active trunkport re0 master,active groups: trunk egress media: Ethernet autoselect status: active inet6 fe80::218:f3ff:fe52:7b0a%trunk0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5 inet 192.168.16.72 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.16.255 I'm lucky to own both a re(4) card that hangs the system when not forced to 100baseTX and a bwi(4) that only works when forced to 11b, hence the media directives in hostname.if. I can get an IP when booting with or without wired plugged in, but if I subsequently pull the wired, it never fails over. However, if i run dhclient trunk0 again, I get an IP over wireless. Am I missing something? There's a weird two lines at end of dmesg that I've never seen. thanks, mike OpenBSD 4.2-current (GENERIC.MP) #1446: Mon Nov 12 16:39:11 MST 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP real mem = 1073082368 (1023MB) avail mem = 1030402048 (982MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xf06e0 (53 entries) bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version "080012" date 08/22/2007 bios0: ASUSTeK Computer INC. A6Tc acpi at mainbus0 not configured mainbus0: Intel MP Specification (Version 1.4) cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-50, 1607.56 MHz cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,CX16,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW cpu0: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 256KB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache cpu0: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative cpu0: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative cpu0: apic clock running at 200MHz cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor) cpu1: AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-50, 1607.32 MHz cpu1: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,CX16,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW cpu1: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 256KB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache cpu1: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative cpu1: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative mpbios: bus 0 is type PCI mpbios: bus 1 is type PCI mpbios: bus 2 is type PCI mpbios: bus 3 is type PCI mpbios: bus 4 is type PCI mpbios: bus 5 is type ISA ioapic0 at mainbus0 apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 11, 24 pins pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 "NVIDIA C51 Host" rev 0xa2 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 not configured "NVIDIA C51 Memory" rev 0xa2 at pci0 dev 0 function 1 not configured "NVIDIA C51 Memory" rev 0xa2 at pci0 dev 0 function 2 not configured "NVIDIA C51 Memory" rev 0xa2 at pci0 dev 0 function 3 not configured "NVIDIA C51 Memory" rev 0xa2 at pci0 dev 0 function 4 not configured "NVIDIA C51 Memory" rev 0xa2 at pci0 dev 0 function 5 not configured "NVIDIA C51 Memory" rev 0xa2 at pci0 dev 0 function 6 not configured "NVIDIA C51 Memory" rev 0xa2 at pci0 dev 0 function 7 not configured ppb0 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 "NVIDIA C51 PCIE" rev 0xa1 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 re0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "Realtek 8168" rev 0x01: RTL8168 2 (0x3800), apic 2 int 11 (irq 11), address 00:18:f3:52:7b:0a rgephy0 at re0 phy 7: RTL8169S/8110S PHY, rev. 2 ppb1 at pci0 dev 4 function 0 "NVIDIA C51 PCIE" rev 0xa1 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 vga1 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 "NVIDIA GeForce 7300 Go" rev 0xa1 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) "NVIDIA MCP51 Host" rev 0xa2 at pci0 dev 9 function 0 not configured pcib0 at pci0 dev 10 function 0 "NVIDIA MCP51 ISA" rev 0xa3 nviic0 at pci0 dev 10 function 1 "NVIDIA MCP51 SMBus" rev 0xa3 iic0 at nviic0 maxtmp0 at iic0 addr 0x4c: max6657 spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50
Re: Skype on the OpenBSD
> Lars NoodC)n <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=95261 > I have no intention of refueling this debate but I found this an interesting read some time ago: paper by Garfinkel http://skypetips.internetvisitation.org/files/VoIP%20and%20Skype.pdf your link is mostly about Ubuntu users concerned that skype reads /etc/password and greps their .mozilla profiles for proxy settings, which when all is said and done is probably the least of their worries. as for other posts, openwengo does not currently support encryption, and is developed partly by a French company, last I heard French governments were not exactly friendly towards strong crypto. also, wengo do have a vested interest in bashing skype. cheers, mike
Re: Skype on the OpenBSD
Ok, fair enough. I just went through their feature list on the site, my two cents are it should be on by default. I'm not saying anything bad about it though, as I haven't used it. My point still stands though, ultimately the weakest links in any such app will probably be the username/password that you entrust for storage to some entity upon signup, the actual protocol design and implementation of the crypto on the messaging backbone, and depending on that the physical security of the machines involved anywhere along the line. I just don't see why I should *de facto* trust Wengo more than I trust Skype just because they open-sourced their app. That doesn't mean it's either well designed or implemented or that they won't divulge my login details under duress. It's just silly gnuism saying open source is the answer to everything. mike
Re: Real men don't attack straw men
Mine is more free than yours is usually a pointless discussion, even more so when the participants cannot even agree on the definition of free. Stallman conveniently omits the fact that his definition of free was, is and will be at odds with that of a significant portion of the free software community. It logically follows that so too will his definition of non-free. If a few millenia of written debate have failed to come up with an unambiguous definition accepted by all, I sincerely doubt this thread will. But hey, whatever, the "Theo is unfriendly" quote is pretty priceless in itself.
Re: Real men don't attack straw men
On Dec 13, 2007 5:52 PM, Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Freedom means having control of your own life; "Freedom of choice" is > a partly accurate and partly misleading way to describe that, and > taking that expression too literally leads to mistaken conclusions. > Thus, I say I advocate "freedom" -- not "freedom of choice". No one has control of their own life. Why? Because in a society we are not separate from others. By definition. We enter, or rather are entered at birth, into a social contract which includes us, the government and other members of that society. > In > other words, a society in which non-free software more or less doesn't > exist. And there you go denying non-free software, by your definition, the very right to exist. How free is that? Perhaps we should tar up all the non-free software in the world and untar it in a data-crypt on a remote island where the murky odour of its tainted code does not attack our refined sensibilities? Is that acceptable on the road to a free, by your definition, society? You use a lot of grand words: good, evil, freedom, but seem unaware of the logical conclusions of your own thinking, or for that matter, the several millenia of debate surrounding these concepts. If I take your words at face-value I must conclude that you are either seriously misguided or downright dangerous. In any case, you do not stand for any definition of freedom that I could ever subscribe to. But I would actually like to thank you for having made this clear to me. michael
Re: Real men don't attack straw men
> > Richard, I may be unfriendly, but you are a lying hypocritical > > asshole. > > > this pretty much sums up everything. can we all stop now? (-: > > aaron.glenn > Nah, it's too much fun... seriously though, even though ultimately pointless, I think it's a worthy public debate. Let him expound his theories and ethics and let's dissect them layer by layer. For the record.
Re: Real men don't attack straw men
On Dec 14, 2007 9:09 AM, David H. Lynch Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Do you have turrets or aspergers or some other reason why you are > compelled to insult virtually everyone ? Wow, now we're taking potshots at the handicapped. There goes that fluffy PC do-gooder image then. > > > > Outside the cult of OpenBSD no one else sees it that way. Here we go again, there is no cult, get over it. I'm speaking for myself, as a lowly user. Theo doesn't need me to fight his corner, I'm just fighting mine, as probably most of the people on this list, although I wouldn't know as we don't communally bask in the shining glory of Our One True Leader. There's actually no "we" per se, from my viewpoint here. I happen to use OpenBSD, firstly because it works, secondly because it works and thirdly because the project doesn't try to shove self-serving incoherent crap down my throat the whole time. Oh and it also happens to coincide with my beliefs on things like freedom, but then again I don't think a bunch of raving extremist nutters could code a working OS. It takes a fair amount of rational thinking. Nah, I'm not descending to your level. Here's a brand new shovel. You sweat and dig your own hole. mike
Re: Real men don't attack straw men
Sorry, back to list, public debate. On Dec 14, 2007 11:51 AM, David H. Lynch Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > michael hamerski wrote: > > > >> In > >> other words, a society in which non-free software more or less doesn't > >> exist. > >> > > > > And there you go denying non-free software, by your definition, the > > very right to exist. > We attempt to deny slavery the right to exist, or polio, or smallpox. How does using non-free software, by your definition anything none GPL'ed I gather, bring actual physical harm to anyone anywhere? You keep on using these grand words to shore up legitimacy for your little crusade. It doesn't work. > > You do not have to accept his definitions of good and evil, or > anything else, > but once you do, the rest works fairly well, Once you accept Scientology as factual, it works pretty well. Ask Tom Cruise. The same is true of any belief system ever imagined. >and not only is he not > ignorant of several milenia of thought, He is if he can't see that one of the possible outcomes, if not the most probable, of his ideals is totalitarianism. As I said before, misguided at best. > but he has done a pretty good job of using the laws and principles > resulting from that to accomplish his > own purposes. > And therein lies the problem, "his own purposes", not the future of mankind, not the future of computing. and certainly not freedom. But perhaps he might like the opportunity to reply for himself. mike
Re: Real men don't attack straw men
Richard, you're being cc'ed because people speak in your name. On Dec 14, 2007 9:35 AM, David H. Lynch Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > michael hamerski wrote: > I think it's a worthy public debate. Let him expound his > > theories and ethics and let's dissect them layer by layer. For the > > record. > > David, Which term in public debate do you fail to get? I am not in the least interested in your private opinion. I am however willing to take the time to dissect the nonsense you and others spout on this list. For the record, it's a pleasure. And you've chosen the worst list ever to pick a fight on ethics. > There has been no debate. > I no of no reason why OpenBSD can not atleast decide one way or > another what their actual policy is on non-free software. http://openbsd.org/policy.html educate yourself and come back or shut up. > > If it is acceptable - that's fine, but then RMS was speaking the truth. > If not than get rid of it. > The remaining alternative is the Torvald's - it is a necescary evil way. Nothing to get rid of. Your free is not my free. Besides which I have absolutely no impact on the way OpenBSD is run. I am just a user. > > Theo is not even willing to state what the policy is - aside from > that it is settled and well known. > Well it's a well know secret then. Again read and educate yourself. It does wonders. > > I am having a hard time seeing why RMS is the hypocrit here. > > Yes, well that would figure wouldn't it? See, the funny thing is I had a lenient attitude towards the GPL, FSF, RMS before. Live and let live, and they're fighting for freedom so it's ok. Thank you for opening my eyes. The fact is that slander sticks, there is an agenda behind continuously repeating the nonsense that OpenBSD somehow promotes non-free software. mike
Re: Real men don't attack straw men
On Dec 14, 2007 5:43 PM, Breen Ouellette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - > This is a reply to David's email to me. I have left out his original > message since it was sent privately and without permission to repost to > the list. > - Yeah, I have a bunch of emails from him, which despite my best efforts to have a public discussion, he keeps sending privately. For me, he has failed the Turing test, and I now know him to be a particularly viral new form of gnubot. Anyway, I would like to beg the pardon of our technically-inclined readers for my participation in this farce and bow out of this thread gracefully with a little song: GNU Man ( nicked from Black Sabbath's Iron Man ) Has he lost his mind? Can he see or is he blind? Can he walk at all, Or if he moves will he fall? Is he alive or dead? Has he thoughts within his head? Well just pass him there Why should we even care? He was turned to steel In the great GNUmetic field Where he traveled time For the future of mankind Nobody wants him He just stares at the world Planning his vengeance That he will soon unfold Now the time is here For GNU man to spread fear Vengeance from the grave Kills the people he once saved Nobody wants him They just turn their heads Nobody helps him Now he has his revenge Heavy boots of lead Fills his victims full of dread Running as fast as they can GNU man lives again! feel free to further adapt the lyrics to your own taste, we might have a hit... over and out, mike
pppoe(4) outage on Swisscom DSL lines since yesterday
Hi, I have several systems (4.2) running over bridged modems which can no longer connect to the service provider's PPPOE servers since last night. They seem to be stuck at the PADI step (1045 retries and counting. As the version number indicates, the system has been in place for quite a while although we switched from symmetrical to assymetrical DSL a few weeks ago without issues. Unfortunately, we had to reconfigure the modems to do the pppoe authentication this morning and I am currently without access. Anyone experiencing anything similar? Thanks, Mike
Re: pppoe(4) outage on Swisscom DSL lines since yesterday
ul 14 10:25:45 fw-crissier-slave /bsd: pppoe0: lcp output Jul 14 10:25:45 fw-crissier-slave /bsd: pppoe0 (8864) state=3, session=0x1e1b output -> 00:90:1a:42:06:fe, len=12 Jul 14 10:25:46 fw-crissier-slave /bsd: pppoe0: phase terminate Jul 14 10:25:46 fw-crissier-slave /bsd: pppoe0: lcp input(closing): Jul 14 10:25:47 fw-crissier-slave /bsd: pppoe0: lcp closing->closed Jul 14 10:25:47 fw-crissier-slave /bsd: pppoe0: phase dead Jul 14 10:25:48 fw-crissier-slave /bsd: pppoe0: timeout Jul 14 10:25:48 fw-crissier-slave /bsd: pppoe0: disconnecting Jul 14 10:25:48 fw-crissier-slave /bsd: pppoe0: lcp down(closed) Jul 14 10:25:49 fw-crissier-slave /bsd: pppoe0: lcp closed->initial Jul 14 10:25:49 fw-crissier-slave /bsd: pppoe0: Down event (carrier loss), taking interface down. On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Henry Sieff wrote: > On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 12:37 AM, michael > hamerski wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have several systems (4.2) running over bridged modems which can no >> longer connect to the service provider's PPPOE servers since last >> night. > > What kind of dsl modems?
Re: pppoe(4) outage on Swisscom DSL lines since yesterday
As I say in my second post I have no access and am not on site. The modems were delivered less than a month ago, they work when non-bridged, and until they migrated their PPPoE server last night, the pppoe links from the OpenBSD boxes were running fine for the past few weeks. I'm somewhat surprised that no one else here has been bitten by this (and yes I have explained that running up-to-date systems is good practice). mike On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Claudio Jeker wrote: > > Did you check that the bridges are actually correctly synced? Swisscom is > currently upgrading their VDSL infrastructure and some modems (as in > almost all older then 6 month) will need a firmware upgrade to work again. > > -- > :wq Claudio
