Even and Odd numbered OpenBSD versions

2009-05-19 Thread Mark Romer
Hello, just a simple question.  We have here at work a old hand at openbsd
and he says he only uses openbsd versions that are even numbered. (3.8, 4.0,
4.2, 4.4 etc...)  I am not sure why, did not have a chance to ask him.
I believe that you should use the latest version available, but what does
everything else think?

thanks, Mark



Re: Even and Odd numbered OpenBSD versions

2009-05-19 Thread Michiel van Baak
On 10:02, Tue 19 May 09, Mark Romer wrote:
 Hello, just a simple question.  We have here at work a old hand at openbsd
 and he says he only uses openbsd versions that are even numbered. (3.8, 4.0,
 4.2, 4.4 etc...)  I am not sure why, did not have a chance to ask him.
 I believe that you should use the latest version available, but what does
 everything else think?

Maybe he's lazy and does not want to upgrade every 6 months but only
every 12 months.

Upgrade with every release. It takes very little time and is worth the
effort.
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Re: Even and Odd numbered OpenBSD versions

2009-05-19 Thread mcb, inc.

On Tue, 19 May 2009, Mark Romer wrote:


but what does everything else think?


Your oldtimer has confused OpenBSD with the Linux kernel...

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Re: Even and Odd numbered OpenBSD versions

2009-05-19 Thread Peter Kay - Syllopsium

From: Mark Romer romes...@gmail.com
Hello, just a simple question.  We have here at work a old hand at openbsd
and he says he only uses openbsd versions that are even numbered. (3.8, 
4.0,

4.2, 4.4 etc...)  I am not sure why, did not have a chance to ask him.
I believe that you should use the latest version available, but what does
everything else think?
Perhaps he's watching the shit (odd numbered) Star Trek films in between 
upgrades?


There's certainly no automatic suckage of odd numbered OpenBSD releases.

(also, various even numbered Star Trek films sucked too).

PK 



Re: Even and Odd numbered OpenBSD versions

2009-05-19 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:02:05AM -0400, Mark Romer wrote:
 Hello, just a simple question.  We have here at work a old hand at openbsd
 and he says he only uses openbsd versions that are even numbered. (3.8, 4.0,
 4.2, 4.4 etc...)  I am not sure why, did not have a chance to ask him.
 I believe that you should use the latest version available, but what does
 everything else think?

Perhaps he was thinking of the venerable Linux kernel numering scheme.
OpenBSD isn't like that. Ideally you should upgrade every six months to
the newest release.

The only reason I can think to skip every other release is that releases
continue to be supported for a year, so you *can* upgrade only once each
year and still get errata patches. However, upgrading is so simple that
doing so twice each year is not a burden.

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Re: Even and Odd numbered OpenBSD versions

2009-05-19 Thread Marco Peereboom
Weirdest thing I have ever heard.  Unless you want to stick to annual
update schedules and picked one or the other.  I do remember the
microsoft and novell service packs even an odd numbering but openbsd has
better quality standards than it has to ship NOW.

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:02:05AM -0400, Mark Romer wrote:
 Hello, just a simple question.  We have here at work a old hand at openbsd
 and he says he only uses openbsd versions that are even numbered. (3.8, 4.0,
 4.2, 4.4 etc...)  I am not sure why, did not have a chance to ask him.
 I believe that you should use the latest version available, but what does
 everything else think?
 
 thanks, Mark



Re: Even and Odd numbered OpenBSD versions

2009-05-19 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:02:05AM -0400, Mark Romer wrote:
| Hello, just a simple question.  We have here at work a old hand at openbsd
| and he says he only uses openbsd versions that are even numbered. (3.8, 4.0,
| 4.2, 4.4 etc...)  I am not sure why, did not have a chance to ask him.
| I believe that you should use the latest version available, but what does
| everything else think?

NO! This is very WRONG!

You should only run the prime versions (10 x version must be prime).
Obviously, apart from OpenBSD 0.2, only odd-numbered versions are
prime, so DO NOT FOLLOW YOUR COWORKERS LEAD !!!

Run 4.3 now and wait for 4.7 ! You know it makes sense ! The
developers would only release prime numbered versions to the general
public, why have it any other way !?

Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd

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Re: Even and Odd numbered OpenBSD versions

2009-05-19 Thread Cem Kayali

Mark Romer, 05/19/09 17:02:

Hello, just a simple question.  We have here at work a old hand at openbsd
and he says he only uses openbsd versions that are even numbered. (3.8, 4.0,
4.2, 4.4 etc...)  I am not sure why, did not have a chance to ask him.
I believe that you should use the latest version available, but what does
everything else think?

thanks, Mark
  


Maybe he only dislikes odd numbers ;)

The fact that, he looks like lazy and upgrades once a year though this 
is not recomended.




Re: Even and Odd numbered OpenBSD versions

2009-05-19 Thread gilbert . fernandes
Or use Pi. Since the Borwein-Beiley-Plouffe equation we can compute any Pi 
decimal anywhere anyplace in Pi without calculating the previous decimals, and 
it is a known scientific fact that every OpenBSD that came and will come until 
the universe becomes a silent, cold and dark place, is contained inside Pi.

Regards.



Re: Even and Odd numbered OpenBSD versions

2009-05-19 Thread David Vasek

On Tue, 19 May 2009, Paul de Weerd wrote:


On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:02:05AM -0400, Mark Romer wrote:
| Hello, just a simple question.  We have here at work a old hand at openbsd
| and he says he only uses openbsd versions that are even numbered. (3.8, 4.0,
| 4.2, 4.4 etc...)  I am not sure why, did not have a chance to ask him.
| I believe that you should use the latest version available, but what does
| everything else think?

NO! This is very WRONG!

You should only run the prime versions (10 x version must be prime).
Obviously, apart from OpenBSD 0.2, only odd-numbered versions are
prime, so DO NOT FOLLOW YOUR COWORKERS LEAD !!!

Run 4.3 now and wait for 4.7 ! You know it makes sense ! The
developers would only release prime numbered versions to the general
public, why have it any other way !?


In reality, it is much simpler. Only the even-numbered versions are really 
suitable as Christmas gifts. Surprised? The odd-numbered versions are all 
obsolete by Christmas.


Regards,
David



Re: Even and Odd numbered OpenBSD versions

2009-05-19 Thread Artur Grabowski
Mark Romer romes...@gmail.com writes:

 Hello, just a simple question.  We have here at work a old hand at openbsd
 and he says he only uses openbsd versions that are even numbered. (3.8, 4.0,
 4.2, 4.4 etc...)  I am not sure why, did not have a chance to ask him.
 I believe that you should use the latest version available, but what does
 everything else think?

He's odd.

//art



Re: Even and Odd numbered OpenBSD versions

2009-05-19 Thread Hugo Villeneuve
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:02:05AM -0400, Mark Romer wrote:
 Hello, just a simple question.  We have here at work a old hand at openbsd
 and he says he only uses openbsd versions that are even numbered. (3.8, 4.0,
 4.2, 4.4 etc...)  I am not sure why, did not have a chance to ask him.
 I believe that you should use the latest version available, but what does
 everything else think?
 
 thanks, Mark

I think it's the reverse. Only install the odd numbered ones.

I had to run the single processor kernel in 4.4 because it didn't
like booting off the second CPU. I should have skipped that release.


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Re: Even and Odd numbered OpenBSD versions

2009-05-19 Thread Frank Bax

Hugo Villeneuve wrote:

I think it's the reverse. Only install the odd numbered ones.

I had to run the single processor kernel in 4.4 because it didn't
like booting off the second CPU. I should have skipped that release.



Ah, extrapolation from a sample of one.  Very scientific.



Re: Even and Odd numbered OpenBSD versions

2009-05-19 Thread Janne Johansson

Artur Grabowski wrote:

Mark Romer romes...@gmail.com writes:


Hello, just a simple question.  We have here at work a old hand at openbsd
and he says he only uses openbsd versions that are even numbered.

 [...] but what does

everything else think?


He's odd.


Sounds like a candidate for the 2007 years Slackathon!

http://people.su.se/~jj/junk/slackathon.png



Re: Even and Odd numbered OpenBSD versions

2009-05-19 Thread Kenneth R Westerback
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 04:15:51PM +0200, Paul de Weerd wrote:
 On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:02:05AM -0400, Mark Romer wrote:
 | Hello, just a simple question.  We have here at work a old hand at openbsd
 | and he says he only uses openbsd versions that are even numbered. (3.8, 4.0,
 | 4.2, 4.4 etc...)  I am not sure why, did not have a chance to ask him.
 | I believe that you should use the latest version available, but what does
 | everything else think?
 
 NO! This is very WRONG!
 
 You should only run the prime versions (10 x version must be prime).
 Obviously, apart from OpenBSD 0.2, only odd-numbered versions are
 prime, so DO NOT FOLLOW YOUR COWORKERS LEAD !!!

Prime is for wimps. Here we only use perfect numbered versions. So we are still 
running on 2.8 and waiting for 49.6!

 Ken

 
 Run 4.3 now and wait for 4.7 ! You know it makes sense ! The
 developers would only release prime numbered versions to the general
 public, why have it any other way !?
 
 Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd
 
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