Re: HP LaserJet P2015 on OpenBSD -- BEWARE

2007-12-16 Thread Chris Cappuccio
You must be kiddingBRscript is horrible.  I can't print more then
15 pages of the SAME postscript before it crashes  Now that HP is
joining this crowd, the world is a darker place.

Greg Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Dec 11, 2007 9:06 AM, Matthew Szudzik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I recently purchased an HP LaserJet P2015 printer, and I wanted to warn
  other users not to make the same mistake.  The printer crashes
  intermittently while trying to print PostScript files with lpd.
 
  A little googling revealed that other users have also had problems with
  this model
 
   http://www.macintouch.com/readerreports/printing/topic2869.html#27aug2007
 
 
 That's why I buy BR-Script supported Brother printers.  BR-Script
 supports enough Postscript for my needs.
 
 Greg
 
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Re: HP LaserJet P2015 on OpenBSD -- BEWARE

2007-12-16 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:09:01 -0800, Chris Cappuccio wrote:

You must be kiddingBRscript is horrible.  I can't print more then
15 pages of the SAME postscript before it crashes  Now that HP is
joining this crowd, the world is a darker place.

Have a look at Kyocera. Every model I have tried works with OpenBSD
using a port 9100 ethernet connection. It even autosenses the data for
dumb apps on another OS where PS is not an option as the app expects
PCL.

Damn reliable too I'm a happy ex-HP user. Dearer but built like a cheap
bamboo watch at the low end.

Rod/

Greg Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Dec 11, 2007 9:06 AM, Matthew Szudzik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I recently purchased an HP LaserJet P2015 printer, and I wanted to warn
  other users not to make the same mistake.  The printer crashes
  intermittently while trying to print PostScript files with lpd.
 
  A little googling revealed that other users have also had problems with
  this model
 
   http://www.macintouch.com/readerreports/printing/topic2869.html#27aug2007
 
 
 That's why I buy BR-Script supported Brother printers.  BR-Script
 supports enough Postscript for my needs.



Re: HP LaserJet P2015 on OpenBSD -- BEWARE

2007-12-16 Thread Greg Thomas
Oh, well, as always YMMV.  For my printing needs my Brother hasn't so
much as burped.

On Dec 16, 2007 9:09 PM, Chris Cappuccio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You must be kiddingBRscript is horrible.  I can't print more then
 15 pages of the SAME postscript before it crashes  Now that HP is
 joining this crowd, the world is a darker place.

 Greg Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Dec 11, 2007 9:06 AM, Matthew Szudzik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I recently purchased an HP LaserJet P2015 printer, and I wanted to warn
   other users not to make the same mistake.  The printer crashes
   intermittently while trying to print PostScript files with lpd.
  
   A little googling revealed that other users have also had problems with
   this model
  
http://www.macintouch.com/readerreports/printing/topic2869.html#27aug2007
  
 
  That's why I buy BR-Script supported Brother printers.  BR-Script
  supports enough Postscript for my needs.
 
  Greg
 
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Re: HP LaserJet P2015 on OpenBSD -- BEWARE

2007-12-14 Thread Matthew Szudzik
 I've had a p2015dn since march of this year and it prints ps just fine
 via lpd.
 
 $ cat /etc/printcap
 lp|lj-p2015:\
 :rm=192.168.10.140:\
 :lp=:\
 :rp=raw:\
 :if=/usr/libexec/lpr/lpf:\

Perhaps your filter /usr/libexec/lpr/lpf is solving the problems that
others are experiencing?  How often do you print without using the
filter?  I have problems with the printer in roughly 10% of all
printjobs, and I don't use a filter.



Re: HP LaserJet P2015 on OpenBSD -- BEWARE

2007-12-14 Thread bofh
Yes it is.  Now, show me a real enterprise linux.




On 12/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Dec 13, 2007 1:59 AM, visc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I have a mix of HP models depending on purchase date - 1300n, 1320n,
  etc. Also had about 10 HP 2015s that were working FINE...
 
  ...until they upgraded their server to the most recent Redhat/Linux
  kernel. Forgive me for not knowing (caring) about which version, but
  the basics are that a Redhat upgrade on the server end left me with 10
  useless printers that were blamed on either my networking skills or HP
  firmware.
 
  It's nice to know that I'm not seeing things, as it was fairly obvious
  to me that the Redhat upgrade caused these printers to stop properly
  printing .ps files.
 
  I had to run out and buy 10 Lexmarks just to keep offices running and
  ultimately eat the hit for equipment not functioning. Not to mention
  that nobody will believe that the Redhat upgrade caused the problem
  (even though it seems HP is ultimately at fault).
 
  - visc
 
 

 I thought the purpose of enterprise linux was to prevent this crap
 from happening.  Shows how well that works.




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Re: HP LaserJet P2015 on OpenBSD -- BEWARE

2007-12-14 Thread Kevin Steves
On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 12:44:13AM +, Matthew Szudzik wrote:
:  I've had a p2015dn since march of this year and it prints ps just fine
:  via lpd.
:  
:  $ cat /etc/printcap
:  lp|lj-p2015:\
:  :rm=192.168.10.140:\
:  :lp=:\
:  :rp=raw:\
:  :if=/usr/libexec/lpr/lpf:\
: 
: Perhaps your filter /usr/libexec/lpr/lpf is solving the problems that
: others are experiencing?  How often do you print without using the
: filter?  I have problems with the printer in roughly 10% of all
: printjobs, and I don't use a filter.

I don't use that entry for printing postscript--it was to handle
stairstep for text (I think it also works for ps though).

I use this for printing ps:

lpps|lj-p2015-raw:\
:rm=192.168.10.140:\
:lp=:\
:rp=raw:\
:sd=/var/spool/output/lpps:\
:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:



Re: HP LaserJet P2015 on OpenBSD -- BEWARE

2007-12-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Dec 13, 2007 1:59 AM, visc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a mix of HP models depending on purchase date - 1300n, 1320n,
 etc. Also had about 10 HP 2015s that were working FINE...

 ...until they upgraded their server to the most recent Redhat/Linux
 kernel. Forgive me for not knowing (caring) about which version, but
 the basics are that a Redhat upgrade on the server end left me with 10
 useless printers that were blamed on either my networking skills or HP
 firmware.

 It's nice to know that I'm not seeing things, as it was fairly obvious
 to me that the Redhat upgrade caused these printers to stop properly
 printing .ps files.

 I had to run out and buy 10 Lexmarks just to keep offices running and
 ultimately eat the hit for equipment not functioning. Not to mention
 that nobody will believe that the Redhat upgrade caused the problem
 (even though it seems HP is ultimately at fault).

 - visc



I thought the purpose of enterprise linux was to prevent this crap
from happening.  Shows how well that works.



Re: HP LaserJet P2015 on OpenBSD -- BEWARE

2007-12-13 Thread Matthew Szudzik
 Also had about 10 HP 2015s that were working FINE...

 ...until they upgraded their server to the most recent Redhat/Linux kernel. 
 Forgive me for not knowing (caring) about which version, but the basics are 
 that a Redhat upgrade on the server end left me with 10 useless printers 
 that were blamed on either my networking skills or HP firmware.

 It's nice to know that I'm not seeing things, as it was fairly obvious to 
 me that the Redhat upgrade caused these printers to stop properly printing 
 .ps files.

A lot of people seem to have problems with the HP LaserJet P2015 on a
network.  My problems were not associated with networking--I'm
connecting to the printer with a USB cable.  Instead, my problems seem
to stem from this printer's alleged incompatibility with lpd, as
mentioned at

 http://www.macintouch.com/readerreports/printing/topic2869.html#27aug2007

(But I've been told that this printer works fine if CUPS is used instead
of lpd.)

I'm using lpd with the following line in my printcap file

 usb:lp=/dev/ulpt0:sd=/var/spool/output/usb:sf:sh:tr=^D:

The beauty of PostScript printers is that this is all the configuration
that is needed.  The sf prevents an extra blank page from being
printed with every job.  The sh prevents a page of garbage (the
so-called burst page) from being printed with every job.  And the
tr=^D tells the printer that it has reached the end of a job.
(Without the tr=^D, the printer hangs after the first job.)

This setup worked fine with my old HP LaserJet 1200, and a similar
configuration should work for any PostScript printer.  Unfortunately,
the HP LaserJet P2015 crashes on certain printjobs with this setup.



Re: HP LaserJet P2015 on OpenBSD -- BEWARE

2007-12-13 Thread Kevin Steves
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 05:06:13PM +, Matthew Szudzik wrote:
: I recently purchased an HP LaserJet P2015 printer, and I wanted to warn
: other users not to make the same mistake.  The printer crashes
: intermittently while trying to print PostScript files with lpd.

I've had a p2015dn since march of this year and it prints ps just fine
via lpd.

$ cat /etc/printcap
lp|lj-p2015:\
:rm=192.168.10.140:\
:lp=:\
:rp=raw:\
:if=/usr/libexec/lpr/lpf:\
:sd=/var/spool/output/lp:\
:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:

lpps|lj-p2015-raw:\
:rm=192.168.10.140:\
:lp=:\
:rp=raw:\
:sd=/var/spool/output/lpps:\
:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:



Re: HP LaserJet P2015 on OpenBSD -- BEWARE

2007-12-12 Thread Greg Thomas
On Dec 11, 2007 9:06 AM, Matthew Szudzik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I recently purchased an HP LaserJet P2015 printer, and I wanted to warn
 other users not to make the same mistake.  The printer crashes
 intermittently while trying to print PostScript files with lpd.

 A little googling revealed that other users have also had problems with
 this model

  http://www.macintouch.com/readerreports/printing/topic2869.html#27aug2007


That's why I buy BR-Script supported Brother printers.  BR-Script
supports enough Postscript for my needs.

Greg

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Re: HP LaserJet P2015 on OpenBSD -- BEWARE

2007-12-12 Thread bofh
On Dec 12, 2007 7:39 PM, Greg Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That's why I buy BR-Script supported Brother printers.  BR-Script
 supports enough Postscript for my needs.

Yes.  I heart my Brother 2520DN.  Duplex and network, under $250,
and sometimes even under $200.


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Re: HP LaserJet P2015 on OpenBSD -- BEWARE

2007-12-12 Thread Greg Thomas
On Dec 12, 2007 6:53 PM, bofh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Dec 12, 2007 7:39 PM, Greg Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  That's why I buy BR-Script supported Brother printers.  BR-Script
  supports enough Postscript for my needs.


 Yes.  I heart my Brother 2520DN.  Duplex and network, under $250,
 and sometimes even under $200.

For the archives I think you mean an HL-5250DN.

Greg
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Re: HP LaserJet P2015 on OpenBSD -- BEWARE

2007-12-12 Thread bofh
On Dec 12, 2007 10:42 PM, Greg Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 For the archives I think you mean an HL-5250DN.

yes es, oops :)


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Securing an environment of Windows platforms from abuse - external or
internal - is akin to trying to install sprinklers in a fireworks
factory where smoking on the job is permitted.  -- Gene Spafford
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Re: HP LaserJet P2015 on OpenBSD -- BEWARE

2007-12-12 Thread visc

On 12-Dec-07, at 8:49 PM, bofh wrote:


On Dec 12, 2007 10:42 PM, Greg Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

For the archives I think you mean an HL-5250DN.


yes es, oops :)


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This officer's men seem to follow him merely out of idle curiosity.
-- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation.
Securing an environment of Windows platforms from abuse - external or
internal - is akin to trying to install sprinklers in a fireworks
factory where smoking on the job is permitted.  -- Gene Spafford
learn french:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1G-3laJJP0feature=related



I have to agree on the warning regarding these printers.

Our corporate structure includes a few Redhat (RHEL) servers from  
another (internal) corporate entity that prints postscript to devices  
on my network using HPs port 9100 setup.


For sake of convenience, it was always easier for me to just buy HP. I  
was happy with the printers, 9100 was always enabled by default and  
the world was right.


I have a mix of HP models depending on purchase date - 1300n, 1320n,  
etc. Also had about 10 HP 2015s that were working FINE...


...until they upgraded their server to the most recent Redhat/Linux  
kernel. Forgive me for not knowing (caring) about which version, but  
the basics are that a Redhat upgrade on the server end left me with 10  
useless printers that were blamed on either my networking skills or HP  
firmware.


It's nice to know that I'm not seeing things, as it was fairly obvious  
to me that the Redhat upgrade caused these printers to stop properly  
printing .ps files.


I had to run out and buy 10 Lexmarks just to keep offices running and  
ultimately eat the hit for equipment not functioning. Not to mention  
that nobody will believe that the Redhat upgrade caused the problem  
(even though it seems HP is ultimately at fault).


- visc



HP LaserJet P2015 on OpenBSD -- BEWARE

2007-12-11 Thread Matthew Szudzik
I recently purchased an HP LaserJet P2015 printer, and I wanted to warn
other users not to make the same mistake.  The printer crashes
intermittently while trying to print PostScript files with lpd.

A little googling revealed that other users have also had problems with
this model

 http://www.macintouch.com/readerreports/printing/topic2869.html#27aug2007