Re: IDE or SCSI virtual disks for VMWare image?

2007-09-27 Thread Brian A. Seklecki
Any word on the degraded performance of fork operations inside the
vmware server guest?  Or am I imagining that thread of e-mails?

~BAS

On Sat, 2007-07-07 at 10:04 -0500, Todd Pytel wrote:
> On Sat, 2007-07-07 at 10:44 -0400, Nick Holland wrote:
> 
> > There's the answer to your question: For your app, it just won't matter.
> > You've spent more time asking, and others (including myself) have spent



Re: IDE or SCSI virtual disks for VMWare image?

2007-07-07 Thread Todd Pytel
On Sat, 2007-07-07 at 10:44 -0400, Nick Holland wrote:

> There's the answer to your question: For your app, it just won't matter.
> You've spent more time asking, and others (including myself) have spent
> more time answering your question than you will ever personally benefit
> (i.e., more work done at the end of the day/week/month).

I'm sorry for wasting your time. I thought it was a fairly simple
question - more like "Is one of the options drastically better or more
stable than the other?", not "How can I can get an extra 1% on a
synthetic benchmark?" Since there's not exactly a tremendous amount of
detailed information on OpenBSD in VMWare beyond just setting it up, I
asked here because I figured some people had more experience and could
answer the question quickly, as they did - the disk type doesn't matter.
That answers my question just fine. Thank you all for your responses and
your time.

--Todd



Re: IDE or SCSI virtual disks for VMWare image?

2007-07-07 Thread Nick Holland
Todd Pytel wrote:
> ...If it
> matters, this is going to be lightweight, home server kind of stuff. 

There's the answer to your question: For your app, it just won't matter.
You've spent more time asking, and others (including myself) have spent
more time answering your question than you will ever personally benefit
(i.e., more work done at the end of the day/week/month).

Optimizing for a 1% or even a 20% performance difference is rarely
worth the effort for "end-of-day" productivity (major exception: when
it is part of a number of other 20% optimizations.  Another major
exception is when you are really close to the limit for something, but
then, you generally need to be working out a better strategy, not
getting just barely getting by a little longer).  If you honestly
believe you will benefit from such an optimization, you can and need to
do your own benchmarks.  There are just too many variables in your
question to be asked and answered in the way you asked it.  For
example:
  * VMware version
  * VMware host hardware
  * Other system load
  * OpenBSD load
  * etc...

Practically speaking, if you are worried about performance, you
probably don't want to be in a virtualization environment.  If you
are trying to optimize for the sake of optimizing, there are probably
a lot better ways of spending your (and our!) time.

Nick.



Re: IDE or SCSI virtual disks for VMWare image?

2007-07-07 Thread Die Gestalt

On 7/6/07, Srebrenko Sehic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Both work just fine. I myself, always run SCSI via mpi(4). Works like
a charm and performs quite well.


I confirm. I have several OpenBSD 4.1 VM in VMWare 6. Some use IDE,
some SCSI. No difference from what I can tell.



Re: IDE or SCSI virtual disks for VMWare image?

2007-07-06 Thread Srebrenko Sehic

On 7/6/07, Todd Pytel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I'm going to be running a few OpenBSD virtual machines and was wondering
whether there was any performance difference between using IDE or SCSI
virtual disks. From what I can tell, the SCSI option has been supported
longer, though IDE has also been stable for a while now. But I haven't
seen any comments on performance differences, if any exist. If it
matters, this is going to be lightweight, home server kind of stuff.


Both work just fine. I myself, always run SCSI via mpi(4). Works like
a charm and performs quite well.



IDE or SCSI virtual disks for VMWare image?

2007-07-06 Thread Todd Pytel
I'm going to be running a few OpenBSD virtual machines and was wondering
whether there was any performance difference between using IDE or SCSI
virtual disks. From what I can tell, the SCSI option has been supported
longer, though IDE has also been stable for a while now. But I haven't
seen any comments on performance differences, if any exist. If it
matters, this is going to be lightweight, home server kind of stuff. 

Thanks.