Re: OpenBSD Cloud Offerings
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 11:47:13AM -0500, Research wrote: > Hello, > > I was wondering if anyone had any experience with reputable cloud providers > that currently offer OpenBSD 5.2. > > I was able to find out some information based on the OpenBSD Journal posting > from Sunday, February 13, 2011 titled "OpenBSD Private Cloud Computing". The > two vendors mentioned included ARP Networks and RootBSD. > > Since this time period (preferably over 2012), has anyone used any other > cloud service offerings hosting OpenBSD ? I am hoping to hear some positive > reviews for a provider I can go with. > > Stipulations > > - Preferable a North American provider for geography > - OpenBSD 5.2 > > Thanks Just a side note to the other comments. If you want use the VM for to compile software 24/7, ask to the provider before of pay for some plan. Some providers consider this a bad use of their servers and will cancel your account. Cheers. -- Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado http://juanfra.info
Re: OpenBSD Cloud Offerings
On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 at 14:18:56 -0800, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > Don't necessarily look at the OpenBSD version numbers that are > offered, or whether OpenBSD is specifically supported; at least with > KVM and Xen HVM, it's almost always possible to get console-based > access and install whichever version of OpenBSD you please. Some > providers offer ssh-based serial console access; some offer VNC-based > access; installing OpenBSD yourself is a breeze! Even if you can't get remote console access, it can be possible to buy a Linux or FreeBSD VPS (or dedicated server), note the IP and gateway settings, and then generate and dd a Yaifo[0] image directly to the hard drive. Remotely reboot the server and it'll (hopefully) come back online with an SSH interface to the OpenBSD installer. I've done this with a FreeBSD dedicated server when the provider wouldn't give me remote console access. It can be tricky and you only get one shot at it, but it opens up a lot of possibilities for cheaper providers that don't directly offer OpenBSD support. 0. https://github.com/jedisct1/yaifo
Re: OpenBSD Cloud Offerings
On 28/11/2012, at 11:31, "C. Bensend" wrote: > Small price to pay, though - ARP is fantastic and I've had nothing > but good experiences with them. +1. Also, a suggestion: if a VPS provider doesn't explicitly offer the OS you want, ask - even if they don't list the OS at all. When I setup my VPS with ARP last year they listed OpenBSD 4.7 or some similarly old release, but were more than happy to organise a newer ISO. Also before you sign up, ask how you get access to the console. One provider I tried was evidently using VMware, and no amount of dicking about in Linux or even OSX would give me a working console. Gave up and switched to ARP. ARP provide serial console emulation, which is MUCH nicer for out-of-band admin than VGA emulation (they do this too, of course) if your internets have high RTT. Not all providers do this John
Re: OpenBSD Cloud Offerings
> For "reputable" providers with nodes in the US, arpnetworks.com, > vr.org, ramhost.us, nqhost.com and edis.at are just some of the > options to consider; and, before you ask, linode.com won't work (it's > strictly Xen PV, which would require a modified Xen DomU kernel from > your Guest OS). IMHO, RootBSD.net pricing is always out of line from > the realm of the market. Just FYI, ARP Networks still requires you to disable mpibios. If you don't, you get nothing but network timeouts and pain on their VPS'. Small price to pay, though - ARP is fantastic and I've had nothing but good experiences with them. Benny -- "Unless you're a lawyer, you don't understand Oracle licensing. That applies equally to Oracle employees as well as customers." -- Me, 2012-05-10
Re: OpenBSD Cloud Offerings
On 27 November 2012 08:47, Research wrote: > Hello, > > I was wondering if anyone had any experience with reputable cloud providers > that currently offer OpenBSD 5.2. > > I was able to find out some information based on the OpenBSD Journal posting > from Sunday, February 13, 2011 titled "OpenBSD Private Cloud Computing". The > two vendors mentioned included ARP Networks and RootBSD. > > Since this time period (preferably over 2012), has anyone used any other > cloud service offerings hosting OpenBSD ? I am hoping to hear some positive > reviews for a provider I can go with. > > Stipulations > > - Preferable a North American provider for geography > - OpenBSD 5.2 > > Thanks To run OpenBSD in the cloud, you can go with pretty much any provider that offers VPS solutions based on Linux-KVM, Xen HVM or VMware -- with all of these three technologies, you can run the regular unmodified i386 and amd64 kernels. Avoid Xen PV (it requires guest OS to be modified to specifically support Xen, i.e. a DomU kernel etc), and, obviously, also avoid OpenVZ, VDSmanager-FreeBSD etc. Don't necessarily look at the OpenBSD version numbers that are offered, or whether OpenBSD is specifically supported; at least with KVM and Xen HVM, it's almost always possible to get console-based access and install whichever version of OpenBSD you please. Some providers offer ssh-based serial console access; some offer VNC-based access; installing OpenBSD yourself is a breeze! For "reputable" providers with nodes in the US, arpnetworks.com, vr.org, ramhost.us, nqhost.com and edis.at are just some of the options to consider; and, before you ask, linode.com won't work (it's strictly Xen PV, which would require a modified Xen DomU kernel from your Guest OS). IMHO, RootBSD.net pricing is always out of line from the realm of the market. If you're looking for something extra cheap and not necessarily one bit reliable/secure/dependable, then you might also find some other interesting offers from come-and-go providers at sites like LowEndBox.com (they have tags for KVM and VMware, plus most "Xen" providers over there either already offer Xen HVM or are flexible enough to provide either Xen PV or Xen HVM). Cheers, Constantine.
Re: OpenBSD Cloud Offerings
These guy's are pretty good. Currently offering 5.2. http://www.stratusrack.com/virtual.php On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Research wrote: > Hello, > > I was wondering if anyone had any experience with reputable cloud > providers that currently offer OpenBSD 5.2. > > I was able to find out some information based on the OpenBSD Journal > posting from Sunday, February 13, 2011 titled "OpenBSD Private Cloud > Computing". The two vendors mentioned included ARP Networks and RootBSD. > > Since this time period (preferably over 2012), has anyone used any other > cloud service offerings hosting OpenBSD ? I am hoping to hear some > positive reviews for a provider I can go with. > > Stipulations > > - Preferable a North American provider for geography > - OpenBSD 5.2 > > Thanks
Re: OpenBSD Cloud Offerings
| -Original Message- | Subject: OpenBSD Cloud Offerings | | I was wondering if anyone had any experience with reputable cloud | providers that currently offer OpenBSD 5.2. | | I was able to find out some information based on the OpenBSD Journal | posting from Sunday, February 13, 2011 titled "OpenBSD Private Cloud | Computing". The two vendors mentioned included ARP Networks and | RootBSD. Do you mean VPS? I didn't know that ARP offered cloud services. However, if you are interested in VPS providers, I'll start with the usual warning: OpenBSD's security is subject to the security of the VPS host, which it is generally safe to say is not as secure as an OpenBSD default install. That said, I've been happy with my results from corgitech.com. I've got a couple VPS containers with them. They have multiple available datacenters, VMWare ESXi 5.1 performs well with OpenBSD, good bandwidth, fast support response times, and their prices are great. They recently had a ecoupon for 50% of their services: "CORGI50". If it still works you are getting one hell of a deal. I've also happily used bsdvm.com, with my only complaints being that they [1] use older VMware software, and [2] default to placing their VPS containers behind virtualized NAT (but you can request bridging, if you know to ask for it). Otherwise the service is comparable to corgitech.com, with the exception that bsdvm.com only uses one datacenter - Hurricane Electric. I'd really like to recommend amerinoc.com because they have excellent plans and service, but they use Xen on Linux, which performs poorly with OpenBSD because there are no PV drivers. I tried but couldn't convince them to offer an ESXi service. If someone - with skills beyond mine - gets motivated to complete Xen PV drivers for OpenBSD I will definitely go back to hosting OpenBSD with them. All that said, if you can afford $100 per month you should look into a dedicated server rather than VPS or cloud. You'll have to search and may need to wait for a special to be offered, but reliable dedicated providers can be found at that price point. The reason I stick with VPS is two-fold: [1] I'm a poor law student, and [2] it offers me the ability to host with several providers for redundancy. At my budget an OpenBSD VPS beats Linux shared hosting in every way. Breen
Re: OpenBSD Cloud Offerings
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Research wrote: > Hello, > > I was wondering if anyone had any experience with reputable cloud > providers that currently offer OpenBSD 5.2. > > I was able to find out some information based on the OpenBSD Journal > posting from Sunday, February 13, 2011 titled "OpenBSD Private Cloud > Computing". The two vendors mentioned included ARP Networks and RootBSD. > > Since this time period (preferably over 2012), has anyone used any other > cloud service offerings hosting OpenBSD ? I am hoping to hear some > positive reviews for a provider I can go with. > > Stipulations > > - Preferable a North American provider for geography > - OpenBSD 5.2 > I have been using ARP for almost a year now, they are awesome. I have 5.2 and -current boxes running ( north america ). > > Thanks
OpenBSD Cloud Offerings
Hello, I was wondering if anyone had any experience with reputable cloud providers that currently offer OpenBSD 5.2. I was able to find out some information based on the OpenBSD Journal posting from Sunday, February 13, 2011 titled "OpenBSD Private Cloud Computing". The two vendors mentioned included ARP Networks and RootBSD. Since this time period (preferably over 2012), has anyone used any other cloud service offerings hosting OpenBSD ? I am hoping to hear some positive reviews for a provider I can go with. Stipulations - Preferable a North American provider for geography - OpenBSD 5.2 Thanks
