Re: OpenBSD Torrents available

2005-05-18 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
Great torrents you made, like all the songs together and the snapshots.

Jasper
 OpenBSD Users:

 We have set up an site from which you can get OpenBSD Torrents.

 The site is http://openbsd.somedomain.net.

 The torrents are generated automatically on a server that is rsynced to
 ftp3.usa.openbsd.org every 4 hours.  We are also seeding current torrents
 from that server.

 l8rZ,
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Re: OpenBSD Torrents available

2005-05-18 Thread Christian Weisgerber
andrew fresh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We have set up an site from which you can get OpenBSD Torrents.
 The site is http://openbsd.somedomain.net.

Interesting project.

Of course, unless several people are getting the same torrent at
the same time, it degenerates into a simple download from the seed
machine and downloading from an FTP mirror would be faster.  It
will be interesting to see which torrents gain enough popularity
to be worthwhile offering.

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Re: OpenBSD Torrents available

2005-05-18 Thread Rod Dorman
On Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 07:42:54, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
  ...
 Of course, unless several people are getting the same torrent at
 the same time, it degenerates into a simple download from the seed
 machine and downloading from an FTP mirror would be faster.  ...

This is getting off topic but I thought that once a client received some
pieces it would start sharing those pieces with other clients.

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Re: OpenBSD Torrents available

2005-05-18 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Rod Dorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Of course, unless several people are getting the same torrent at
  the same time, it degenerates into a simple download from the seed
  machine and downloading from an FTP mirror would be faster.  ...
 
 This is getting off topic but I thought that once a client received some
 pieces it would start sharing those pieces with other clients.

Yes, it does, but that presumes that there are other clients.  If
you now look at http://openbsd.somedomain.net/, you'll see that for
most torrents there is one seed and no clients at all.  If you now
fetch, say, the latest sparc64 snapshot you will be the sole client
with nobody else around to share with.

And yes, it is a reasonable assumption that when 3.7 is released
there will be a swarm of downloaders for the release on the more
popular platforms.

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Re: OpenBSD Torrents available

2005-05-17 Thread jared r r spiegel
On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 04:45:11PM -0700, andrew fresh wrote:
 OpenBSD Users:
 
 We have set up an site from which you can get OpenBSD Torrents.
 
 The site is http://openbsd.somedomain.net.
 
 The torrents are generated automatically on a server that is
 rsynced to ftp3.usa.openbsd.org every 4 hours.

  that's cool, but would it make sense to use  4h?

  i suppose you probably thought about it, with respect to 
  trying to not be too far from any potential update boundary,
  but also not being to 'annoying' to the server, and i guess
  the rsynch is not very heavy if there are no changes to be
  had... but it still seems kinda frequent for an automation
( i would think 8 hours should be still real ok, and that 
  accounts for still being able to have checked for an update
  in the time it takes a person to leave the house for work
  and then come back afterwards ; maybe it would be 
  worth trying to get some stats on the timestamps on the
  files in the different snapshots dirs and see how often
  the individual arch changes, generally, and have each $arch
  rsync based on that? -- just trying to think of netizen
  stuff )

  when the contents of a specific $arch directory changes, 
  does that render out a new .torrent file and update the
  link in the -current section on the www; or does it just
  overwrite the same name of the torrent?
 
  if it is the latter, and you're seeding the torrent for
  may 12th i386 -current; and then the rsync updates that
  dir and a new .torrent is made, and then i d/l the new
  one and join it, do we collide or do we just not see 
  each other (like, the torrent in the tracker is by
  hash of contents or something?)

  can i suggest that the torrents only have the subdir
  instead of OpenBSD/subdir?  maybe it is only me with
  the issue, or maybe it is just the way the two were
  hashed and their .torrents were made, but i have

dir i made/OpenBSD/snapshots - i386 snapshots torrent
dir i made/OpenBSD/OpenBSD/songs - songs

  after getting the i386 and the songs torrents, putting
  them in the same dir i made and running btdownloadcurses.py
  on them.

  jared

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Re: OpenBSD Torrents available

2005-05-17 Thread andrew fresh
On Tue, May 17, 2005 at 04:49:37AM -0600, jared r r spiegel wrote:
 On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 04:45:11PM -0700, andrew fresh wrote:
  We have set up an site from which you can get OpenBSD Torrents.
  
  The torrents are generated automatically on a server that is
  rsynced to ftp3.usa.openbsd.org every 4 hours.
 
   that's cool, but would it make sense to use  4h?

Maybe,  I wasn't sure, and it seems to get a fair number of new snapshots 
whenever it syncs, so it seems to be a workable amount of time.  I will look 
into changing timing of updates as time goes on.  The reason I chose 4 hours is 
that seemed to be what most of the CVS mirrors chose as a sync time and I 
didn't have any other gauges.

   when the contents of a specific $arch directory changes, 
   does that render out a new .torrent file and update the
   link in the -current section on the www; or does it just
   overwrite the same name of the torrent?
  
   if it is the latter, and you're seeding the torrent for
   may 12th i386 -current; and then the rsync updates that
   dir and a new .torrent is made, and then i d/l the new
   one and join it, do we collide or do we just not see 
   each other (like, the torrent in the tracker is by
   hash of contents or something?)

When the contents of a dir change, it generates a new torrent (that is the date 
part of the filename), that means the old torrent is out of date, however, on 
the torrent clients I have tested, downloading the new torrent will not start 
your download over, it will just download the changed pieces.  However, as far 
as the tracker goes, it doesn't actually care about the filename, it just cares 
about the info hash, which is does change, and what actually renders the old 
torrent out of date.

I am hoping if I have time, to write up a script that is available for download 
that will watch the RSS feed for new torrents that you want, check what you 
have, remove the old one and download the new one.  I don't know how that will 
screw with different torrent clients though.

   can i suggest that the torrents only have the subdir
   instead of OpenBSD/subdir?  

I will definately consider this,  I guess I just wasn't sure what the best 
layout for them was, and during my testing, doing it with OpenBSD/subdir caused 
all of the files to end up in the OpenBSD dir as they appear on the FTP server.

l8rZ,
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OpenBSD Torrents available

2005-05-16 Thread andrew fresh
OpenBSD Users:

We have set up an site from which you can get OpenBSD Torrents.

The site is http://openbsd.somedomain.net.

The torrents are generated automatically on a server that is rsynced to 
ftp3.usa.openbsd.org every 4 hours.  We are also seeding current torrents from 
that server.

l8rZ,
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