Re: Q: username policy in install and in adduser
2012/8/14 Eike Lantzsch zp6...@gmail.com: On Monday 13 August 2012 12:23:51 Theo de Raadt wrote: It is good sense to push unix users into a mentality that usernames should be lower case by default. You sure pushed me into it ;-) I see it now: simplicity (Administrator is just awful root is a lot better) You must of course mean Administratör, which is what that Bluescreen OS calls the root user in .se. Yeah, those guys were really onto something neat. Change the username based on the locale of the install CD. Fun and games for every admin with computers from different countries. We should emulate that in the installer. If you select sv keyboard mapping, you must be a swede and therefore the admin account should be named rot instead. Now, how do we rename chroot() to chrot() in swedish boxes? And stop calling / 'root'. So much to do, so little time -- To our sweethearts and wives. May they never meet. -- 19th century toast
Q: username policy in install and in adduser
The choice of usernames during OBSD install is more restrictive than adduser. For example install does not allow capital letters in usernames. I read up the facts but I'd like to know the reasons. I do not seem to find an answer to my question: What benefit is there in not using capital letters in usernames? 1) usability-wise (I can imagine) 2) security-wise? 3) administration-wise 4) programming reasons of the installer? Thank you for your time Eike
Re: Q: username policy in install and in adduser
On 13 Aug 2012, at 09:20, Eike Lantzsch wrote: The choice of usernames during OBSD install is more restrictive than adduser. For example install does not allow capital letters in usernames. I read up the facts but I'd like to know the reasons. I do not seem to find an answer to my question: What benefit is there in not using capital letters in usernames? 1) usability-wise (I can imagine) 2) security-wise? 3) administration-wise 4) programming reasons of the installer? Historically, entering a username beginning with a capital letter turns off lower-case support. The assumption is that the terminal is upper-case only (some of us have used them). Michael
Re: Q: username policy in install and in adduser
It is good sense to push unix users into a mentality that usernames should be lower case by default. I don't see any reason to change it. The choice of usernames during OBSD install is more restrictive than adduser. For example install does not allow capital letters in usernames. I read up the facts but I'd like to know the reasons. I do not seem to find an answer to my question: What benefit is there in not using capital letters in usernames? 1) usability-wise (I can imagine) 2) security-wise? 3) administration-wise 4) programming reasons of the installer? Thank you for your time Eike
Re: Q: username policy in install and in adduser
AFAIK, there is every likelihood that a third-party software (like Web or Mail server) will not be case-sensitive and will mix data for Foo and foO users. Le 13 août 2012 à 15:20, Eike Lantzsch a écrit : The choice of usernames during OBSD install is more restrictive than adduser. For example install does not allow capital letters in usernames. I read up the facts but I'd like to know the reasons. I do not seem to find an answer to my question: What benefit is there in not using capital letters in usernames? 1) usability-wise (I can imagine) 2) security-wise? 3) administration-wise 4) programming reasons of the installer? Thank you for your time Eike
Re: Q: username policy in install and in adduser
Theo de Raadt wrote: It is good sense to push unix users into a mentality that usernames should be lower case by default. Tis a gift to be simple ... every time plane vanilla admin is warped to enable some unnecessary feature that tickles the user's fancy, eventually problems emerge. Why look for trouble? -- Jack Woehr # We commonly say we have no time when, Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # of course, we have all that there is. http://www.softwoehr.com # - James Mason, _The Art of Chess_, 1905
Re: Q: username policy in install and in adduser
On Monday 13 August 2012 10:20:16 Michael Lambert wrote: On 13 Aug 2012, at 09:20, Eike Lantzsch wrote: The choice of usernames during OBSD install is more restrictive than adduser. For example install does not allow capital letters in usernames. I read up the facts but I'd like to know the reasons. I do not seem to find an answer to my question: What benefit is there in not using capital letters in usernames? 1) usability-wise (I can imagine) 2) security-wise? 3) administration-wise 4) programming reasons of the installer? Historically, entering a username beginning with a capital letter turns off lower-case support. The assumption is that the terminal is upper-case only (some of us have used them). Michael Yep remember them. My first terminal was a used Hazeltine 2000. I eventually gutted the electronics and replaced it with my own 160mmx100mm terminal card. That way I got rid of the interlace jitter too. Thanx for the history refresh! Eike
Re: Q: username policy in install and in adduser
On Monday 13 August 2012 12:23:51 Theo de Raadt wrote: It is good sense to push unix users into a mentality that usernames should be lower case by default. You sure pushed me into it ;-) I see it now: simplicity (Administrator is just awful root is a lot better) avoiding confusion (third-party s/w confusing /home/UserName and /home/username) historical reasons (Caps-only terminals) I don't see any reason to change it. Neither do I. The choice of usernames during OBSD install is more restrictive than adduser. For example install does not allow capital letters in usernames. I read up the facts but I'd like to know the reasons. I do not seem to find an answer to my question: What benefit is there in not using capital letters in usernames? 1) usability-wise (I can imagine) 2) security-wise? 3) administration-wise 4) programming reasons of the installer? Again: Thank you for your time Eike
