Re: BSD laptop
David Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone have any thoughts or experience with Lenovo or ThinkPad laptops? I have a Lenovo Thinkpad X60s running FreeBSD 6.1. See: http://hack.org/mc/freebsd-x60.html Very short version: Usable after PXE boot and installation: both cores are found, the internal NIC usable but with strange latency, running X with VESA fb. powerd works, but I don't get much battery life (4 cell slim version), about 1.5 hour. Doesn't work out of the box, but fixable with patches: Sound, accelerated graphics. Doesn't work at all or barely: suspend/resume, WLAN, SD reader, fingerprint reader. I tried installing NetBSD 3.0 as well, but it couldn't find any disks to install to.
Re: BSD laptop
I tried installing NetBSD 3.0 as well, but it couldn't find any disks to install to. In my T60, I set disk controller to legacy, which makes it look like PIIX rather than AHCI. Doesn't work at all or barely: suspend/resume, WLAN, SD reader, fingerprint reader. wlan is intel? I have ath(4) in mine (ordered on purpose that way) and it works fine. Newer current (last month or so?) is better on the wm(4) but the PHY programming is still off. Perhaps that's your latency issue. My experience on T60 is otherwise similar. -- Greg Troxel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Looks like plans might change. I've been looking at some HP laptops and I'm impressed with the bang for buck ratio. I am considering the dv9013ca, English, the nx6325, English, or the dv5117ca, English. Anybody have any experience with these? Will the amd64 port of NetBSD work? Will it work with MULTIPROCESSOR on? Anything else I should know about them? Thanks once more, -- David Chapman| tar is not a plaything [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]
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I was googling around for some info on my ThinkPad T20 today came across a wikipedia article on the ThinkPad's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThinkPad From the trivia section: The ThinkPad is the most popular laptop of developers of the open source operating system OpenBSD, and the X40 is one of the best supported laptops for the system. Sevan / Venture37 -- The truth, the half-truth, and nothing like the truth. - Mark Brandon Read
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* David Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-11-16 15:02]: * David Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-11-15 17:14]: Does anyone have any thoughts or experience with Lenovo or ThinkPad laptops? Thanks for all the replies! I am looking at perhaps a A31 or R51 or R52, T30 perhaps. I have been looking at http://laptopcloseout.ca/canada/store.html in their IBM section. Anybody know of any hints or issues with these? Thanks again, guys. Looks like it'll be the A31. Does this require iwi(4) and the iwi-firmware? Thanks, -- David Chapman| tar is not a plaything [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]
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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Chapm an writes: Looks like it'll be the A31. Does this require iwi(4) and the iwi-firmware? My A31p has worked with plain old wi(4). -s
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On 16/11/06, Rick Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Chapman said: I am looking at perhaps a A31 or R51 or R52, T30 perhaps. I have been looking at http://laptopcloseout.ca/canada/store.html in their IBM section. Stay away from the T30. They have a lot of motherboard and disk failures. Yes, I can confirm this too. My company had two of these, both had motherboard failures. Cheers z0mbix
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On Friday 17 November 2006 02:20, Zoong PHAM wrote: On Thursday, 16 November 2006 at 16:17:16 -0700, Rick Kelly wrote: Stay away from the T30. They have a lot of motherboard and disk failures. Oops, I am about to buy a 2nd hand T30 to run OBSD-4.0. I currently have a X24 and it works beautifully with 3.8 But the X24 lacks of a serial port so I am thinking of getting a T30. So should I stick with the X24 and buy a USB or PCMCIA serial card? Can someone recommend one? TIA, Zoong Not all T30's are bad. In fact, few of them are, but compared to the other Thinkpad's the T30's had a higher rate of failure. Would I get a T30 if the price was right for its configuration? Probably. I really like Thinkpads. If in fact the T30 does die on you, spare parts are obtainable. --STeve Andre'
Re: BSD laptop
David Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone have any thoughts or experience with Lenovo or ThinkPad laptops? My Thinkpad R60 works fine with OpenBSD (recent -current). The only thing I can find wrong with it is the wpi (wifi) card which needs a you to manually fetch a blob and dump in the right place before it will wake up and do something useful. You only need to do the fetching once, though. -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ First, we kill all the spammers The Usenet Bard, Twice-forwarded tales 20:11:56 delilah spamd[26905]: 146.151.48.74: disconnected after 36099 seconds
Re: BSD laptop
On Thu, 2006-11-16 at 13:38 +0100, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: David Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone have any thoughts or experience with Lenovo or ThinkPad laptops? IBM thinkpad R50e (PIV centrino, 1GB, 60GB, DVD+RW). Currently runs Ubuntu Dapper. Ran OpenBSD 3.9 from USB Pen drive. After downloading the wireless firmware, I got the wireless interface up without error. Cant say about the internal modem though, even linux cannot recognise it. No problem with X window (havent tested GNOME though, just FVWM). At present testing OpenBSD through the pen drive by doing my routine tasks whenever I have time. Just want to make sure the switch from Ubuntu to OpenBSD is smooth. Regards. -- Ajitabh Pandey http://www.ajitabhpandey.info http://www.unixclinic.net ICQ - 150615062 Registered Linux User - 240748
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* David Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-11-15 17:14]: Does anyone have any thoughts or experience with Lenovo or ThinkPad laptops? Thanks for all the replies! I am looking at perhaps a A31 or R51 or R52, T30 perhaps. I have been looking at http://laptopcloseout.ca/canada/store.html in their IBM section. Anybody know of any hints or issues with these? Thanks again for your time, -- David Chapman| tar is not a plaything [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]
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On Thursday, 16 November 2006 at 16:17:16 -0700, Rick Kelly wrote: Stay away from the T30. They have a lot of motherboard and disk failures. Oops, I am about to buy a 2nd hand T30 to run OBSD-4.0. I currently have a X24 and it works beautifully with 3.8 But the X24 lacks of a serial port so I am thinking of getting a T30. So should I stick with the X24 and buy a USB or PCMCIA serial card? Can someone recommend one? TIA, Zoong
Re: BSD laptop
I am currently using HP nx6310; after the initial problem with npx freezing when MULTIPROCESSOR is on, I an reasonably happy with it. The wireless (wpi) works (but not with wpa_supplicant for me), the Ethernet (bce) as well (I just have to disconnect the power supply for a moment when rebooting from XP). The only minor gripe is that I could not get the audio (azalia) work through the speakers, but it works fine through the headphones; also the SATA controller has to be set to compatibility mode for NetBSD, which is weird, as the native mode is supported by both OpenBSD-current and FreeBSD-current. I haven't yet tried seriously suspend/resume. The graphics - Intel 945 - works in VESA mode under XFree86, but I installed Xorg 6.9 from pkgsrc and this is now served by the I810 driver, so it's OK. Otherwise it looks quite well built; one may not like the 15 screen with 1024x768 native resolution. though (or, maybe, like - depends on one's eyes...). As far as OpenBSD-current is concerned, I just booted the installation CD and collected the dmesg (posted earlier in current-users@), but it looked OK at this stage. I tried at one stage FreeBSD6.2 Beta1, but did not get the wireless and the azalia working straight from the CD (I found an OSS audio driver, but did not want to deal with bits from outside of it; as I have another ath wireless card, which worked, I did not bother to look at the wpi one). Chavdar
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Does anyone have any thoughts or experience with Lenovo or ThinkPad laptops? Thanks, -- David Chapman| tar is not a plaything [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I switched from running GNU/Linux to OpenBSD 4.0 on my ThinkPad R52. Works like a charm. I can't find a thing to complain about. 2006/11/15, David Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does anyone have any thoughts or experience with Lenovo or ThinkPad laptops? Thanks, -- David Chapman| tar is not a plaything [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Wing Tsun Scandinavia Sweden branch (http://www.wing-tsun.se/) Kung-fu.se - Menga stilar, ett forum (http://www.kung-fu.se/)
Re: BSD laptop
OBSD, Kubuntu, and XP on a ThinkPad T41 On 11/15/06, David Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any thoughts or experience with Lenovo or ThinkPad laptops? Thanks, -- David Chapman| tar is not a plaything [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD laptop
Hello Doug, On Wed, 15 Nov 2006, Doug Fordham wrote: OBSD, Kubuntu, and XP on a ThinkPad T41 On 11/15/06, David Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any thoughts or experience with Lenovo or ThinkPad laptops? FreeBSD on ThinkPad T21, R51e, T43. Regards, Stacey Thanks, -- David Chapman| tar is not a plaything [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Stacey Roberts writes: Hello Doug, On Wed, 15 Nov 2006, Doug Fordham wrote: OBSD, Kubuntu, and XP on a ThinkPad T41 On 11/15/06, David Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any thoughts or experience with Lenovo or ThinkPad laptops? FreeBSD on ThinkPad T21, R51e, T43. FreeBSD on a ThinkPad T42p. Works great! g.
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FreeBSD on a HP nc6230. Issues with acpi/thermal, will shutdown when going from power to battery. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-acpi/2005-September/001935.html Other than that, it works great. Brad - Brad Miele VP Technology IPNStock.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 15 Nov 2006, Stacey Roberts wrote: Hello Doug, On Wed, 15 Nov 2006, Doug Fordham wrote: OBSD, Kubuntu, and XP on a ThinkPad T41 On 11/15/06, David Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any thoughts or experience with Lenovo or ThinkPad laptops? FreeBSD on ThinkPad T21, R51e, T43. Regards, Stacey Thanks, -- David Chapman| tar is not a plaything [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD laptop
With the exception of the AMD64 requirement, I use Fujitsu laptops extensively, running Linux, FreeBSD, and XP. They are good solid machines, and you will be happy. STR seems solid, I never use suspend to disk. My current sitch is that I use XP, with vmware for FreeBSD and linux, so I have not delved into it much, but I used it FreeBSD exclusively in the past for years.
Re: BSD laptop
On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:10:31 +
Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi BSD people
First of all, apologies for cross-posting but I'm looking to buy a new
laptop and simultaneously learning to run a flavour of BSD on it. I've some
experience with Linux, so I'm not a total n00b, but I haven't really done
much in-depth with any BSD.
I would like to know what laptop vendors/models people recommend for
installing BSD on, and what gaps (if any) exist in hardware support. To get
things started I should mention that I was looking at buying one of either
IBM/Lenovo, Fujitsu, or the British makes Mesh or Acorn - but I'm not
opposed to other suggestions. The system should have, at minimum:
Hi Jeff,
you may want to search the mobile@ archives, as there are *plenty* of postings
about this specific question, and other postings that should give some useful
information...
FWIW, i'm running a Thinkpad z60m with no probs at all...not 64 bit though.
suspend works really well...search the archives for complete details...
good luck,
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