Re: Back again with funny network interfaces

2007-04-18 Thread Dustin Lundquist

Manuel Ravasio wrote:

A friend of mine gave me a pcmcia card with no recognizable brand/model on
it.
I plugged it in and OpenBSD told me it's a Realtek 8139 card, and called it
"rl0".
I can use the card, but apparently it works at 10Mbps instead of 100.
I tried to force the card's speed and duplex adding suitable entries in
/etc/hostname.rl0:
inet 10.42.42.1 255.255.255.0 10.42.42.255 media 100baseTX mediaopt
full-duplex

ifconfig -a shows a 100Mbps link speed, but the card's and the switch's led
show 10Mbps.
If you hard set one side of an Ethernet link it disables the auto 
negotiation pulse so the other side defaults to 10baseT half duplex. I 
would suggest using media autoselect or media 10baseT unless you can 
configure the port on the switch. If you have another switch available, 
test the card on it and see what it negotiates to, also check that the 
dongle (if there is one) is fully connected.



Dustin Lundquist



Re: Back again with funny network interfaces

2007-04-19 Thread Manuel Ravasio
> If you hard set one side of an Ethernet link it disables the auto 
> negotiation pulse so the other side defaults to 10baseT half duplex. I 
> would suggest using media autoselect or media 10baseT unless you can 
> configure the port on the switch.

The "switch" is actually a 8-port 10/100 hub/switch, very dumb, without any
configuration option whatsoever. :-)

I tried first to connect the card without any media/mediaopt value and it
started at 10Mb. I tried the card on a Windows box, connected to the same
port of the "switch" and it negotiated at 100full.

I paid attention to the dongle, which looks in pretty good shape; however the
card has been heavily used, so it's possible some contacts are dirty or
oxidized...

Thank you all,
bye,
Manuel
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Re: Back again with funny network interfaces

2007-04-20 Thread mickey
On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 06:16:32AM -0700, Manuel Ravasio wrote:
> I have a doubt...
> 
> PCMCIA ethernet interface cannot negotiate more than 10Mbps, ignoring my
> trials to force 100full...
> PCMCIA wireless interface doesn't run at more than 11Mbps, ignoring my trials
> to force 54Mbps...
> 
> Maybe it's something with old PCMCIA cardbus?

"pcmcia cardbus" is an oxymoron.

pcmcia is a 16bit isa-like bus w/ 3.3v and 5v power.
cardbus is a pci-like 32bit bus w/ 3.3v power only.
pccard is a form factor for this devices also.

so what exactly do you have? (:
cu
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Re: Back again with funny network interfaces

2007-04-20 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 06:16:32AM -0700, Manuel Ravasio wrote:
| I have a doubt...
|
| PCMCIA ethernet interface cannot negotiate more than 10Mbps, ignoring my
| trials to force 100full...
| PCMCIA wireless interface doesn't run at more than 11Mbps, ignoring my
trials
| to force 54Mbps...
|
| Maybe it's something with old PCMCIA cardbus?

No.

I've had a 10/100MBit PCMCIA NIC. It would link at 100Mbit, but I
could never transfer that much data over it. The PCMCIA bus limits the
traffic you can get from the network onto your system (or vice versa)
but it doesn't limit the speed at which the NIC will link.

Cheers,

Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd

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Re: Back again with funny network interfaces

2007-04-20 Thread Marc Balmer

mickey wrote:


Maybe it's something with old PCMCIA cardbus?


"pcmcia cardbus" is an oxymoron.

pcmcia is a 16bit isa-like bus w/ 3.3v and 5v power.
cardbus is a pci-like 32bit bus w/ 3.3v power only.
pccard is a form factor for this devices also.


people can't memorize computer industries acronyms...

qed.



Re: Back again with funny network interfaces

2007-04-20 Thread Manuel Ravasio
I have a doubt...

PCMCIA ethernet interface cannot negotiate more than 10Mbps, ignoring my
trials to force 100full...
PCMCIA wireless interface doesn't run at more than 11Mbps, ignoring my trials
to force 54Mbps...

Maybe it's something with old PCMCIA cardbus?


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Re: Back again with funny network interfaces

2007-04-20 Thread Timo Schoeler
> >> Maybe it's something with old PCMCIA cardbus?
> > 
> > "pcmcia cardbus" is an oxymoron.
> > 
> > pcmcia is a 16bit isa-like bus w/ 3.3v and 5v power.
> > cardbus is a pci-like 32bit bus w/ 3.3v power only.
> > pccard is a form factor for this devices also.
> 
> people can't memorize computer industries acronyms...
> 
> qed.

(Andrew Steven Grove)



Re: Back again with funny network interfaces

2007-04-20 Thread Manuel Ravasio
> "pcmcia cardbus" is an oxymoron.

Whoops...
Something like "childproof" and "CiscoWorks"? :-)

> pcmcia is a 16bit isa-like bus w/ 3.3v and 5v power.
> cardbus is a pci-like 32bit bus w/ 3.3v power only.
> pccard is a form factor for this devices also.

Hmmm...
I have something that looks like a couple of pcmcia cards, which fit into two
pcmcia slots... I don't have a tester at home, so I can't check voltages.
The laptop is quite old, (8 years old at the very least), the wireless card
is a Netgear WPN511, described only as pccard, the ethernet card... I can't
really say, there's nothing interesting written on it.

I suppose I'm talking about pcmcia, but anyway Paul de Weerd wways it doesn't
matter.

This evening I'll try with my (way newer) Dell company laptop, on which I've
just finished re-installing OpenBSD 4.0, using the same configurations.


Thank you all anyway,
have a nice weekend,
Manuel
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Re: Back again with funny network interfaces

2007-04-20 Thread Andy Hayward

On 4/20/07, Manuel Ravasio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I have something that looks like a couple of pcmcia cards, which fit into two
pcmcia slots... I don't have a tester at home, so I can't check voltages.


PCMCIA and CardBus cards are physically (very slightly) different:

http://www.pcmcia.org/faq.htm#cardbuscard
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardbus#CardBus

-- ach



Re: Back again with funny network interfaces

2007-04-20 Thread mickey
On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 08:10:10AM -0700, Manuel Ravasio wrote:
> > "pcmcia cardbus" is an oxymoron.
> 
> Whoops...
> Something like "childproof" and "CiscoWorks"? :-)
> 
> > pcmcia is a 16bit isa-like bus w/ 3.3v and 5v power.
> > cardbus is a pci-like 32bit bus w/ 3.3v power only.
> > pccard is a form factor for this devices also.
> 
> Hmmm...
> I have something that looks like a couple of pcmcia cards, which fit into two
> pcmcia slots... I don't have a tester at home, so I can't check voltages.
> The laptop is quite old, (8 years old at the very least), the wireless card
> is a Netgear WPN511, described only as pccard, the ethernet card... I can't
> really say, there's nothing interesting written on it.

cardbus cards always have a "golden" plate at the connector side.

cu
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