Re: Firefox keeps crashing
Just adding some more info to the topic... I've had some problems while running Firefox (tried on elightenment and fvwm) on OpenBSD 3.8-release and OpenBSD 3.9-snapshot from around february-2006. It was painfully slow, and switching between tabs was like watching a turtle trying to run. However, when I switched to 3.9-release and 3.9-snapshot (around april-2006), the problem was solved, and firefox now runs smooth. Don't know why though =) By the way, I find it funny that firefox, being open-source and all that, initializes slower on Unix machines than on WindowsXP for example... -- An OpenBSD user... and that's all you need to know =)
Re: Firefox keeps crashing
On 5/13/06, Leonardo Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, I find it funny that firefox, being open-source and all that, initializes slower on Unix machines than on WindowsXP for example... hey, it even has *different* menu option placements for unix and for windows! Edit - Preferences (in unix), vs Tools - Options (in windows). Now why would anybody even try to do this sort of idiotic thing?? to make it easier on the windows users??? IE - Tools - Internet Options -jf
Re: Firefox keeps crashing
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 10:14:47PM -0400, Nick Holland wrote: Rico wrote: Hi I have a problem with Mozilla Firefox on obsd 3.9 running KDE. Whenever I am using firefox and tabbrowsing it keeps crashing. I only need to have about 4-10 tabs open at it will crash each and every time. Does anyone know of this as a common problem? On 3.8 with KDE 3.4 I never had any problems on the same machine. Best and kind regards. Rico. I don't use kde, no idea how that fits in with the problem. Firefox is a resource hog, and tends to leak resources (...) FWIW, I guess KDE is more than a bit resource-happy too; does the problem persist when using a simple window manager (fvwm, for instance)? Joachim
Re: Firefox keeps crashing
Hi, FWIW, I guess KDE is more than a bit resource-happy too; does the problem persist when using a simple window manager (fvwm, for instance)? I use Firefox under fluxbox under 3.9 with great succes. Cannot remember it crashing. Konqueror runs fine aswell, though I use it much less. [Quanta (kdewebdev) however, is a completely different story. I am lucky to still have a 3.8 box available... chunk is already free :-( ] Bye... Nico
Re: Firefox keeps crashing
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 10:54:21AM +0200, Nico Meijer wrote: Hi, FWIW, I guess KDE is more than a bit resource-happy too; does the problem persist when using a simple window manager (fvwm, for instance)? I use Firefox under fluxbox under 3.9 with great succes. Cannot remember it crashing. Konqueror runs fine aswell, though I use it much less. The same for me, Firefox on -current, which was why I asked (FWIW, don't snip attributions, please). [Quanta (kdewebdev) however, is a completely different story. I am lucky to still have a 3.8 box available... chunk is already free :-( ] Never tried it. Joachim
Re: Firefox keeps crashing
FWIW, I guess KDE is more than a bit resource-happy too; does the problem persist when using a simple window manager (fvwm, for instance)? I have just, this morning, tested some of the other window managers. The problem with firefox persists. Regarding KDE 3.5.1, I guess it is even more resource consuming than 3.4.
Re: Firefox keeps crashing
FWIW, I guess KDE is more than a bit resource-happy too; does the problem persist when using a simple window manager (fvwm, for instance)? I use Firefox under fluxbox under 3.9 with great succes. Cannot remember it crashing. Konqueror runs fine aswell, though I use it much less. Actually, firefox works with fluxbox without any problems. Before I tested fluxbox I tried the ulimit -d unlimited so I don't know if that has anything to do with it to. It seems like firefox became a bit faster on KDE, but it still crashes. Thanks for the different inputs!
Re: Firefox keeps crashing
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 02:34:18PM +0200, Rico wrote: FWIW, I guess KDE is more than a bit resource-happy too; does the problem persist when using a simple window manager (fvwm, for instance)? I have just, this morning, tested some of the other window managers. The problem with firefox persists. Regarding KDE 3.5.1, I guess it is even more resource consuming than 3.4. I haven't had a problem with firefox and blackbox. -- Terry http://tyson.homeunix.org
Re: Firefox keeps crashing
After some fast but extensive testing we are going to use epiphany as the default browser on the installation. If other are facing similar Firefox problems, which they can't seem to solve, epiphany might be a good alternative. It works superfast on KDE 3.5.1 and we haven't seen any crashes on the test with many tabs and so on - it is based upon Mozilla as well. We did test the Mozilla browser from the mozilla package, and got the same crashes as with firefox. Rico wrote: FWIW, I guess KDE is more than a bit resource-happy too; does the problem persist when using a simple window manager (fvwm, for instance)? I use Firefox under fluxbox under 3.9 with great succes. Cannot remember it crashing. Konqueror runs fine aswell, though I use it much less. Actually, firefox works with fluxbox without any problems. Before I tested fluxbox I tried the ulimit -d unlimited so I don't know if that has anything to do with it to. It seems like firefox became a bit faster on KDE, but it still crashes. Thanks for the different inputs! .
Re: Firefox keeps crashing
try a current snapshot with current firefox it's the most stable firefox that i've ever used on openbsd i can have a browser open with 15 tabs for weeks or months at a time and it rarely crashes, probably thanks to the numerous improvements made in firefox by ports folks who found many bugs (with the aid of the malloc guard and other tools) the current (and 3.9?) X server are really solid as well, the other day i saw Xorg using 400MB of memory but as soon as i killed rdesktop (which was misbehaving) it went back to normal. not sure what that was about or why Xorg allowed this to happen but it recovered gracefully. Rico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I have a problem with Mozilla Firefox on obsd 3.9 running KDE. Whenever I am using firefox and tabbrowsing it keeps crashing. I only need to have about 4-10 tabs open at it will crash each and every time. Does anyone know of this as a common problem? On 3.8 with KDE 3.4 I never had any problems on the same machine. Best and kind regards. Rico. -- There is no certainty, there is only opportunity
Re: Firefox keeps crashing
On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 22:14:47 -0400, Nick Holland proclaimed... Firefox is a resource hog, and tends to leak resources worse than the plumbing job I've been working on for my girlfriend. The difference is, my plumbing leaks will be fixed, and I'm not going to be telling everyone how wonderful it is until they are. Nick, you really should get informed of the newest programming techniques! Try using some teflon tape around your keyboard and screen. That should keep firefox from leaking! :) - Eric
Re: Firefox keeps crashing
After some more tests it shows that the problem exists on several installations. We have recently upgraded desktop and laptop machines to 3.9. in our datacenter. KDE 3.5.1 as desktop and firefox 1.5.0.1 is the main browser. I have tried changing the resources in login.conf and I have also tried unlimit -d, but the problem persist. Also firefox is running very slow. We are also facing some other small complications which didn't exist on obsd 3.8 with KDE 3.4. As a temp solution, I think, because of demand will be to go back to obsd 3.8 and KDE 3.4. In general, on the different installations, the KDE desktop is working much slower, and strange problems occur on the HP laptop installations. Rebooting sometimes stops and the error: arpresolve: can't allocate llinfo, apears, crashes during shutdown also occurs - I haven't had time to look into those just yet. Also some problems starting KDE with the startkde command, in which the screen freezes. All in all some strange things are going on. Firefox is a resource hog, and tends to leak resources worse than the plumbing job I've been working on for my girlfriend. The difference is, my plumbing leaks will be fixed, and I'm not going to be telling everyone how wonderful it is until they are. (ok, yes, I've been waiting to use that analogy since the THIRD time I disassembled the pipes to fix a leak I can't see, can't fix in place, only feel the water very slowly dripping. But I digress) The default login.conf settings for normal users seems to be too restrictive for Firefox. When Firefox tries to use more than it is permitted, it is silently shut down, no core, no error message, it just vanishes. Promote yourself to staff, you will probably find it works better. Bump the staff limits up, you will probably find you can make it run Darned Well. Wish I could tell you which one (or two) settings it is but I haven't figured out how to determine which is too snug. But after bumping things up, I usually run Firefox for many weeks at a time with lots of tabs and a few windows... Nick.
