Re: Help to debug Openbsd freezes...

2006-07-26 Thread Rogier Krieger

On 7/24/06, Xavier Mertens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It's still running 3.5 (ok, ok, don't shoot, it's an old one but upgrades are 
not easy).


As another poster already mentioned: upgrades are an easy and well
documented process. Do your specific circumstances (e.g. problems to
physically access your co-located machines) make upgrades painful?

If so, you should probably solve that problem. If you can't perform
routine work such as upgrades, what do you do when an emergency pops
up?



For two weeks now, the box freezes randomly...


I've encountered such trouble as well. Several times, replacing the
power supply did the trick. You may want to keep those around at the
data centre.

Cheers,

Rogier

--
If you don't know where you're going, any road will get you there.



Re: Help to debug Openbsd freezes...

2006-07-25 Thread Andrei GUDIU

Ian Watts wrote:

On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 12:10:53 +0200 (CEST)
Xavier Mertens [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake:


Hi Gurus,

I'm facing a strange and frustrating problem...
I run a box with OpenBSD without problem for a while (2 years).
It's still running 3.5 (ok, ok, don't shoot, it's an old one but 
upgrades are not easy). It's an i386 1U in a safe environment (colo)

See attached dmesg below.

For two weeks now, the box freezes randomly... No ping, no activity, 
capslock/keyboard don't work, no error on the console. The only 
solution is the magic-button :(


I tested the disks: ok
I replaced memory modules: ok (+memtest)
I replaced two fans (for disk cooling)
No new software has been installed not upgraded.
If I check the symon logs, nothing special appends before the freeze

Any advice?


How old is the box itself?  Could be a power supply getting flaky.
Without problems for so long, then suddenly this I would lean toward a
hardware problem (does not mean its definitely that).


I had similar symptoms caused by my CPU overheating.  Was the CPU fan 
one of the fans you replaced or is the server room hotter in mid-summer?



-- Ian




I had similar problems with an Intel Celeron 600 Mhz. It crashed 
randomly. I used to use two realtek network interfaces wich I suspected 
causing the problems. I replaced those two rl nics and everything went 
back to normal. System is running ok.




Re: Help to debug Openbsd freezes...

2006-07-25 Thread Stephan A. Rickauer
Ian Watts wrote:
 It's still running 3.5 (ok, ok, don't shoot, it's an old one but
 upgrades are not easy). It's an i386 1U in a safe environment (colo)

They are. That's exactly one of the main reasons why I have started
using OpenBSD at our Institute. Twice a year I spend ~ 2 hours (that
includes reading the documentation, testing and coffee break) to upgrade
7 machines. [peng]

Stephan

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Re: Help to debug Openbsd freezes...

2006-07-24 Thread Bill
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 12:10:53 +0200 (CEST)
Xavier Mertens [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake:

 Hi Gurus,
 
 I'm facing a strange and frustrating problem...
 I run a box with OpenBSD without problem for a while (2 years).
 It's still running 3.5 (ok, ok, don't shoot, it's an old one but upgrades are 
 not easy). It's an i386 1U in a safe environment (colo)
 See attached dmesg below.
 
 For two weeks now, the box freezes randomly... No ping, no activity, 
 capslock/keyboard don't work, no error on the console. The only solution is 
 the magic-button :(
 
 I tested the disks: ok
 I replaced memory modules: ok (+memtest)
 I replaced two fans (for disk cooling)
 No new software has been installed not upgraded.
 If I check the symon logs, nothing special appends before the freeze
 
 Any advice?

How old is the box itself?  Could be a power supply getting flaky.
Without problems for so long, then suddenly this I would lean toward a
hardware problem (does not mean its definitely that).



Re: Help to debug Openbsd freezes...

2006-07-24 Thread Ian Watts

On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 12:10:53 +0200 (CEST)
Xavier Mertens [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake:


Hi Gurus,

I'm facing a strange and frustrating problem...
I run a box with OpenBSD without problem for a while (2 years).
It's still running 3.5 (ok, ok, don't shoot, it's an old one but upgrades are 
not easy). It's an i386 1U in a safe environment (colo)
See attached dmesg below.

For two weeks now, the box freezes randomly... No ping, no activity, capslock/keyboard 
don't work, no error on the console. The only solution is the magic-button :(

I tested the disks: ok
I replaced memory modules: ok (+memtest)
I replaced two fans (for disk cooling)
No new software has been installed not upgraded.
If I check the symon logs, nothing special appends before the freeze

Any advice?


How old is the box itself?  Could be a power supply getting flaky.
Without problems for so long, then suddenly this I would lean toward a
hardware problem (does not mean its definitely that).


I had similar symptoms caused by my CPU overheating.  Was the CPU fan 
one of the fans you replaced or is the server room hotter in mid-summer?



-- Ian