Re: Kernel never loads completely

2006-08-22 Thread Greg Thomas

Success with the snapshot of today.  With today's floppy I don't need
to do any workarounds.  With a snapshot floppy from 8/19 it would
panic during boot but this morning I grabbed the latest floppy40.fs
and this system boots without me having to manually choose the boot
device.  I'll be upgrading from 3.9 to the snapshot tonight.

Greg

On 8/21/06, Greg Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 8/20/06, Nick Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Greg Thomas wrote:
  I have an old, unused since OpenBSD 3.4 Athlon XP 1800+ that I just
  replaced the mobo on because the previous mobo wouldn't boot with a
  LSI MegaRAID 150-6 installed.
 
  I haven't yet tried other OSes but so far with the 3.4 system on the
  harddrive and any OpenBSD boot floppy it hangs here:
 
  booting hd0a:/bsd: 4466772

 That's not booting from the floppy.
 If that's what you are getting, your system isn't trying to boot from
 the floppy, it keeps going to the HD.  Bad floppy, bad cable, bad
 setting ...

 (I could also read unstated things into what you are saying, but that's
 not at all wise)

  Any ideas?  Bad memory?  With the mobo I received new Kingston memory
  but have no other DDR stuff to test with at the moment.

 3.4 had the old boot loader that didn't like changing disk geometries.
 Changing the MoBo could cause issues, though I don't recall that exact
 symptom.

 Could also be a HD damaged in handling...

 If the floppy is really trying to boot and it is hanging at that point,
 I'd be suspicious of a hardware problem.  That's so early in the boot
 process, the only thing running is the boot loader.  The 3.4 boot loader
 and the 3.9/4.0 boot loader have very little in common, so if BOTH are
 failing in the same way, you got either a really odd piece of HW or a
 broken piece of HW.


Hah, I found a workaround.  If I set only one boot device in the BIOS
or if I use the BIOS' boot menu and select the device I want to boot
from OpenBSD will boot from floppy, CD, or harddrive.  If I let it
search through the boot devices set up in the BIOS, whether the
working boot device is first, 2nd or third, it hangs as mentioned
above.

That's an easy enough workaround so I'm fine with that.  I was about
to give up but since other OSes installed and booted fine I figured
I'd keep poking around.  I can get a dmesg later if anyone is
interested.

Greg




Re: Kernel never loads completely

2006-08-21 Thread Greg Thomas

On 8/20/06, Nick Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Greg Thomas wrote:
 I have an old, unused since OpenBSD 3.4 Athlon XP 1800+ that I just
 replaced the mobo on because the previous mobo wouldn't boot with a
 LSI MegaRAID 150-6 installed.

 I haven't yet tried other OSes but so far with the 3.4 system on the
 harddrive and any OpenBSD boot floppy it hangs here:

 booting hd0a:/bsd: 4466772

That's not booting from the floppy.
If that's what you are getting, your system isn't trying to boot from
the floppy, it keeps going to the HD.  Bad floppy, bad cable, bad
setting ...

(I could also read unstated things into what you are saying, but that's
not at all wise)

 Any ideas?  Bad memory?  With the mobo I received new Kingston memory
 but have no other DDR stuff to test with at the moment.

3.4 had the old boot loader that didn't like changing disk geometries.
Changing the MoBo could cause issues, though I don't recall that exact
symptom.

Could also be a HD damaged in handling...

If the floppy is really trying to boot and it is hanging at that point,
I'd be suspicious of a hardware problem.  That's so early in the boot
process, the only thing running is the boot loader.  The 3.4 boot loader
and the 3.9/4.0 boot loader have very little in common, so if BOTH are
failing in the same way, you got either a really odd piece of HW or a
broken piece of HW.



Hah, I found a workaround.  If I set only one boot device in the BIOS
or if I use the BIOS' boot menu and select the device I want to boot
from OpenBSD will boot from floppy, CD, or harddrive.  If I let it
search through the boot devices set up in the BIOS, whether the
working boot device is first, 2nd or third, it hangs as mentioned
above.

That's an easy enough workaround so I'm fine with that.  I was about
to give up but since other OSes installed and booted fine I figured
I'd keep poking around.  I can get a dmesg later if anyone is
interested.

Greg



Re: Kernel never loads completely

2006-08-20 Thread Greg Thomas

On 8/20/06, francisco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On the off chance you haven't already done this, verify that the floppies
are good (via a good `fdformat /dev/rfd0c` before and `cmp /dev/rfd0c
/path/to/floppy39.fs` after).  I've had similar hangs due to bad media.



On 8/20/06, Jeff Quast [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

have you reset cmos?


Thanks guys.  I reset the cmos and I've checked these floppies.  My
laptop boots fine from them and the machine in question boots from
Redhat and DOS floppies.

One post I found mentions A20 issues but I'm not much of hardware
person to understand the referenced materials and there weren't any
solutions anyway.

This little project I'm doing is turning into PITA.

Thanks,
Greg



On Sat, 19 Aug 2006, Greg Thomas wrote:

 On 8/19/06, Greg Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have an old, unused since OpenBSD 3.4 Athlon XP 1800+ that I just
 replaced the mobo on because the previous mobo wouldn't boot with a
 LSI MegaRAID 150-6 installed.

 I haven't yet tried other OSes but so far with the 3.4 system on the
 harddrive and any OpenBSD boot floppy it hangs here:

 booting hd0a:/bsd: 4466772

 Any ideas?  Bad memory?  With the mobo I received new Kingston memory
 but have no other DDR stuff to test with at the moment.


 I found some ancient Redhat floppies along with a DOS floppy and they
 boot fine.  In addition to the 3.4 on the harddrive I've tried 3.7,
 3.9, and snapshot floppies all with the same result.

 Greg




Re: Kernel never loads completely

2006-08-20 Thread Nick Holland

Greg Thomas wrote:

I have an old, unused since OpenBSD 3.4 Athlon XP 1800+ that I just
replaced the mobo on because the previous mobo wouldn't boot with a
LSI MegaRAID 150-6 installed.

I haven't yet tried other OSes but so far with the 3.4 system on the
harddrive and any OpenBSD boot floppy it hangs here:

booting hd0a:/bsd: 4466772


That's not booting from the floppy.
If that's what you are getting, your system isn't trying to boot from 
the floppy, it keeps going to the HD.  Bad floppy, bad cable, bad 
setting ...


(I could also read unstated things into what you are saying, but that's 
not at all wise)



Any ideas?  Bad memory?  With the mobo I received new Kingston memory
but have no other DDR stuff to test with at the moment.


3.4 had the old boot loader that didn't like changing disk geometries. 
Changing the MoBo could cause issues, though I don't recall that exact 
symptom.


Could also be a HD damaged in handling...

If the floppy is really trying to boot and it is hanging at that point, 
I'd be suspicious of a hardware problem.  That's so early in the boot 
process, the only thing running is the boot loader.  The 3.4 boot loader 
and the 3.9/4.0 boot loader have very little in common, so if BOTH are 
failing in the same way, you got either a really odd piece of HW or a 
broken piece of HW.


Nick.



Re: Kernel never loads completely

2006-08-19 Thread Greg Thomas

On 8/19/06, Greg Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have an old, unused since OpenBSD 3.4 Athlon XP 1800+ that I just
replaced the mobo on because the previous mobo wouldn't boot with a
LSI MegaRAID 150-6 installed.

I haven't yet tried other OSes but so far with the 3.4 system on the
harddrive and any OpenBSD boot floppy it hangs here:

booting hd0a:/bsd: 4466772

Any ideas?  Bad memory?  With the mobo I received new Kingston memory
but have no other DDR stuff to test with at the moment.



I found some ancient Redhat floppies along with a DOS floppy and they
boot fine.  In addition to the 3.4 on the harddrive I've tried 3.7,
3.9, and snapshot floppies all with the same result.

Greg