Re: Notebook dmesg gathering. Developers, what info do you want?
On Sat, 25 Aug 2012, Dave Anderson wrote: If there's no interest in this info, I won't burn an afternoon collecting it. If there is interest, answers to my questions would be useful. Dave A year or so ago, as part of selecting a notebook to buy, I gathered dmesg info from all of the notebooks I could find in local stores (booting from and saving data to a USB stick) and sent it to dm...@openbsd.org as well as using it myself. Since I expect that it would be useful to the developers to have this info for the current crop of notebooks, I plan to do another data-gathering session sometime in the next few weeks. I'll be using an amd64 snapshot and, as FAQ 4.10 requests, will gather both 'dmesg' and 'sysctl hw.sensors' output using both the sp and mp kernels for each system. Since the data collection will be scripted it will be easy to also gather other information; pcidump, usbdevs and acpidump come to mind. What would be useful for the developers? I've got a store which has several dozen demo notebooks and will let me gather data from them, but there won't be an opportunity to go back -- I need to get all of the useful info at once. So, my questions to the developers: 1) Does it matter which amd64 snapshot I use? Are there any recent or forthcoming ones which are especially good or bad for this purpose? 2) What additional information should I collect? Exact commands and options, please. I don't mind installing tools which aren't in base, but the output needs to go to, or be able to be redirected to, a file. 3) Other than the dmesg/sensor info which will go to dm...@openbsd.org, where should I send the additional info? If there's no suitable place, I can just keep it around and let anyone who needs it ask me for it. Dave -- Dave Anderson d...@daveanderson.com
Re: Notebook dmesg gathering. Developers, what info do you want?
On Sat, Sep 01, 2012 at 17:46, Dave Anderson wrote: On Sat, 25 Aug 2012, Dave Anderson wrote: If there's no interest in this info, I won't burn an afternoon collecting it. If there is interest, answers to my questions would be useful. It's probably not that useful. In the event the hardware doesn't work, you're not in a position to test fixes. Unless you were planning on buying a sample for a developer. :) The dmesg collection is interesting because it reveals what hardware people are using. Filling it up with examples of hardware that people are not using is less interesting. Perhaps just run the tests, see which machines fail to boot or don't have any disks or network detected, and write an email to misc so people know not to buy that hardware.
Re: Notebook dmesg gathering. Developers, what info do you want?
3) Other than the dmesg/sensor info which will go to dm...@openbsd.org, where should I send the additional info? If there's no suitable place, I can just keep it around and let anyone who needs it ask me for it. Dave http://www.nycbug.org/?action=dmesgdadd=1
Re: Notebook dmesg gathering. Developers, what info do you want?
On Sun, 26 Aug 2012, Brett wrote: 3) Other than the dmesg/sensor info which will go to dm...@openbsd.org, where should I send the additional info? If there's no suitable place, I can just keep it around and let anyone who needs it ask me for it. http://www.nycbug.org/?action=dmesgdadd=1 Yes, I know about that site and intend to post the dmesg info there too (as I did last year). But my question was about what to do with any non-dmesg info I capture (whatever the developers tell me might be useful, perhaps acpidump, usbdevs, pcidump, ...). Dave -- Dave Anderson d...@daveanderson.com
Re: Notebook
On Sat, 26 May 2012 22:42:18 -0700 Robert Connolly robertconnolly1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Hi. Second, I configured KDE to use a blank screen saver, which works, but the monitor never turns off. How can I configure my notebook monitor to turn off after 15 minutes of being inactive? I don't know about KDE, but for X in general: man xset, read the dpms section. Third, my touchpad is slow... the cursor move slowly. I tried to configure it with KDE to behave faster, but KDE isn't making it behave the way I am used to with Linux. Are there any suggestions for this? I don't seem to be using the Synaptics driver. The touchpad otherwise works... scrolling works, and a double finger tap simulates the (missing) middle button. man xset, mouse section I am also curious about how SMP behaves. According to top(1), an application may be using 50% cpu, while all the cpu's are 85% idle. Does OpenBSD somehow divide the load over the cpu's, or is top(1) not displaying things properly? Read about processes and threads in general. Simplified: If a program has only 1 thread/process, it will only run on 1 CPU. This is a design decision by the application programmer. And lastly, is there something equivalent to the GNU free(1) command? man systat Thank you Robert You're welcome PS: Please keep in mind that this is an OpenBSD list. Questions about KDE etc. should rather be asked on those mailing lists. People here tend to (at best) ignore unrelated questions...
Re: Notebook
I installed VLC, and my webcam works, but my microphone does not seem to be detected at all. dmesg does not list a usb audio device. What should I do to investigate this? Is there a better application, other than VLC, for using a webcam with OpenBSD? Before you install X/KDE, etc., do a vanilla OpenBSD install and read FAQ 13 multimedia then test sound from the commandline. From past experience VLC's docs were way behind implementation (on top of being gigantic) so for debugging it may be the worst application unless you work from source code. -- p
Re: notebook: HP Compaq nc6220 - unable to boot from installation CD
Hi Vincent I had the same problems with the nc6220 but when I'm using the same boot configurations from http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-miscm=114962101720535w=2 I can boot OpenBSD but without the internal bge0 network card. boot -c ... UKC change pcibios0 change (y/n) ? flags [0] ? 1 UKC disable ppb diabled UKC quit dmesg see attachment Regards, Stephan OpenBSD 3.9-current (GENERIC) #865: Sat Jun 3 13:22:49 MDT 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.86GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.87 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,TM,SBF,EST,TM2 cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1867 MHz (1308 mV): speeds: 1867, 1600, 1333, 1067, 800 MHz real mem = 1064726528 (1039772K) avail mem = 963641344 (941056K) using 4256 buffers containing 53338112 bytes (52088K) of memory mainbus0 (root) bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(ff) BIOS, date 07/22/05, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf, SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf3514 (23 entries) bios0: Hewlett-Packard HP Compaq nc6220 (PG789EA#UUZ pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0x2000 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xf07c0/176 (9 entries) pcibios0: bad IRQ table checksum pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xf5260/176 (9 entries) pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 5 10 11 pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:31:0 (Intel 82801FBM LPC rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #5 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x1! cpu0 at mainbus0 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82915GM/PM/GMS Host rev 0x03 vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82915GM/GMS Video rev 0x03: aperture at 0xd080, size 0x1000 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) Intel 82915GM/GMS Video rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured Intel 82801FB PCIE rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 not configured Intel 82801FB PCIE rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 not configured uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801FB USB rev 0x03: irq 10 usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0 at usb0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801FB USB rev 0x03: irq 11 usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801FB USB rev 0x03: irq 11 usb2 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2 uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801FB USB rev 0x03: irq 10 usb3 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub3 at usb3 uhub3: Intel EHCI root hub, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI rev 0xd3 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 not configured auich0 at pci0 dev 30 function 2 Intel 82801FB AC97 rev 0x03: irq 11, ICH6 AC97 ac97: codec id 0x41445374 (Analog Devices AD1981B) ac97: codec features headphone, 20 bit DAC, No 3D Stereo audio0 at auich0 Intel 82801FB Modem rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 30 function 3 not configured ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801FBM LPC rev 0x03: PM disabled pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 82801FB IDE rev 0x03: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: FUJITSU MHV2060AH wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 57231MB, 117210240 sectors atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 1 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: MATSHITA, UJDA765aDVD/CDRW, 1.02 SCSI0 5/cdrom removable wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5 cd0(pciide0:0:1): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2 pciide0: channel 1 ignored (disabled) isa0 at ichpcib0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pmsi0 at pckbc0 (aux slot) pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot wsmouse0 at pmsi0 mux 0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker spkr0 at pcppi0 lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7 npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: using exception 16 pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo pccom2 at isa0 port 0x3e8/8 irq 5: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo pcic0 at isa0 port 0x3e0/2 iomem 0xd/65536 pcic0 controller 0: Intel 82365SL rev 2 has sockets A and B pcic0 controller 1: Intel 82365SL rev 2 has sockets A and B pcmcia0 at pcic0 controller 0 socket 0 ep1 at pcmcia0 function 0 3Com, Megahertz 574B, B port 0x340/32, irq 3: address 00:01:03:c7:0b:91 tqphy0 at ep1 phy 0: 78Q2120 10/100 PHY, rev. 10 pcmcia1 at pcic0 controller 0 socket 1 pcmcia2 at pcic0 controller 1 socket 0 ep2 at pcmcia2 function 0 3Com, Megahertz 574B, B port 0x300/32, irq 9: address 00:01:03:c7:0b:91 tqphy1 at ep2 phy 0: 78Q2120 10/100 PHY, rev. 10 pcmcia3 at pcic0
Re: notebook: HP Compaq nc6220 - unable to boot from installation CD (crashes)
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 11:13:28PM +0200, Vincent Immler wrote: Hi folks, I own a HP Compaq nc6220. I really like this notebook, business look and quality. But I have a serious problem with OpenBSD. I just tried an OpenBSD 3.9 installation CD on it and can't boot properly (already had that problem with OpenBSD 3.8) The boot process stops at different points every time, so it doesn't help to disable devices (anyway I tried it!) Does anyone have similar problems? Is there any solution available? The Hardware should be fine (~6 months old, Windows/FreeBSD/Knoppix all work!)! I don't want to sell this notebook and buy a Thinkpad instead ... ;-\ Thanks for your help in advance. This sounds like the SATA controller is not set up properly. There are several fixes for Intel SATA in -current that make things compatible with more machines. Try a snapshot.
Re: notebook: HP Compaq nc6220 - unable to boot from installation CD (crashes)
Okay, then it seems like that this is a problem with HP NC notebooks in general - I wonder why it isn't fixed then ... I had an old bios revision and updated to a newer one - without improvement. Tried the latest snapshot - without improvement. Hmm ... what is going to be cheaper? Selling this notebook and buy a Thinkpad - or donating to OpenBSD when this problem is beeing fixed ... *think* Peter Bako wrote: I have a HP NC6000 laptop with the same problem. In my case I was using OpenBSD 3.8 (though the problem still occurs with 3.9) and initial install went normally. However after I updated my BIOS to the latest version (F.14) it would no longer boot - more precisely it would crash shortly after starting to boot up. This happened both with my installed image as well as off the install CD. Since then I have successfully installed both Windows and Fedora as a test and both worked without any problems. The only response I got back to my post on this group regarding the problem was to go back a version or two of the BIOS until things boot normally. Unfortunately I have not had time to play with it yet, but you can try and see if this helps you out. If you find another solution, or an older BIOS works for you, please let me know. Peter -- Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 23:13:28 +0200 From: Vincent Immler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: notebook: HP Compaq nc6220 - unable to boot from installation CD (crashes) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi folks, I own a HP Compaq nc6220. I really like this notebook, business look and quality. But I have a serious problem with OpenBSD. I just tried an OpenBSD 3.9 installation CD on it and can't boot properly (already had that problem with OpenBSD 3.8) The boot process stops at different points every time, so it doesn't help to disable devices (anyway I tried it!) Does anyone have similar problems? Is there any solution available? The Hardware should be fine (~6 months old, Windows/FreeBSD/Knoppix all work!)! I don't want to sell this notebook and buy a Thinkpad instead ... ;-\ Thanks for your help in advance. All the best, Vincent
Re: notebook: HP Compaq nc6220 - unable to boot from installation CD (crashes)
no sorry, not yet I don't have any USB floppy drives! Darrin Chandler wrote: Have you tried booting any other way such as floppy? Just fishing...
Re: notebook: HP Compaq nc6220 - unable to boot from installation CD (crashes)
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 12:22:41AM +0200, Vincent Immler wrote: no sorry, not yet I don't have any USB floppy drives! Darrin Chandler wrote: Have you tried booting any other way such as floppy? Just fishing... I have had some issues with CDROMs. Sometimes I get read errors, then retries, and end up with a bad file after copy. If that happens to you during the boot process then you're obviously hosed. But if CD booting works for the various things you tried then that's probably not the problem. Still, I'd try to borrow a USB floppy just to see if you can get booted up at all. -- Darrin Chandler| Phoenix BSD Users Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/ http://www.stilyagin.com/ |
Re: notebook: HP Compaq nc6220 - unable to boot from installation CD (crashes)
Thanks for your help, but I already tried that possibility.
I had to disable the following devices:
pciide*
uhub*
brgphy*
bge*
wdc*
isa0
then the last lines are:
isa at mainbus0 not configured
biomask netmask ttymask
rd0: fixed, 3800blocks
root on rd0a
rootdev=0x1100 rrootdev=0x2f00 rawdev=0x2f02
Warning: RTC time at or beyond 2038
Warning: year set back to 2037
Warning: CHECK AND RESET THE DATE!
Warning: using file system time
Warning: CHECK AND RESET THE DATE!
*hanging*
It can't be that I have to disable so many (important) devices to get to
this point ...
I wish I would have bought a Thinkpad ...
Dave @ Allnix, LLC wrote:
The boot process stops at different points every time, so it doesn't
help to disable devices (anyway I tried it!)
Does anyone have similar problems? Is there any solution available? The
Hardware should be fine (~6 months old, Windows/FreeBSD/Knoppix all
work!)!
I had something similiar happen to me on an older laptop once.
On the initial boot up, boot with the '-c' option. At the prompt enable
verbose mode. It will then boot and you will be able to see what it gets
stuck on. See also this link...
http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-33216.html
In my case, I had to disable ahc ('disable ahc' at the UKC prompt) and
that enabled me to install OBSD. After the initial boot and set up, you
don't have to do it again because the install will configure everythink
correctly.
I don't want to sell this notebook and buy a Thinkpad instead ... ;-\
Awww, you really should. I got my first one this month after years with
Apples and Dells with OBSD. OBSD works so well with the TPs.
Dave
Thanks for your help in advance.
All the best,
Vincent
Re: notebook: HP Compaq nc6220 - unable to boot from installation CD (crashes)
On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 02:33:06PM +0100, Vincent Immler wrote: Hi folks, I just bought a HP Compaq nc6220. I really like this notebook, business look and quality. But I have a serious problem with OpenBSD. I just tried my OpenBSD 3.8 installation CD on it and can't boot properly. The boot process stops at this point: pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 82801FB IDE rev. 0x03: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility After this line the notebook stops responding, therefore I have to power down the notebook completely. Does anyone have similar problems? Is there any solution available? Thanks for your help in advance. All the best, Vincent Hello Vincent, here are some generic tips. Boot with boot -c, enable verbose mode and boot, then try to disable the last driver you see. Common candidates are also ahc and pciide. It's documented here: http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=bootapropos=0sektion=8manpath=OpenBSD+Currentarch=i386format=html http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=boot_configsektion=8arch=i386apropos=0manpath=OpenBSD+Current Also try to get a complete dmesg, it might help a lot: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#getdmesg Tobias
Re: notebook: HP Compaq nc6220 - unable to boot from installation CD (crashes)
I tried to disable the last and then booted, without success. In order which things I disabled: 1. pciide 2. pckbd 3. brgphy 4. wdc 5. npx 6. isapnp 7. ukphy 8. aha The last line now is the following: biomask ffcf netmask ffcf ttymask ffcf I don't know how to disable it, disable biomask or something else does not work. Just downloaded FreeBSD 6.1, but I don't want to switch to FreeBSD (in case FreeBSD works). Thank you for your help.
