Re: OpenBSD/amd64 runs on computers equipped with AMD Athlon64
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:29:32PM +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote: | I've built up several of the Supermicro SYS-5015A-EHF boxes (1U rack, | dual core 1.66G Atom, dual Gb Intel LAN, IPMI) with 4GB and an SSD, | uses less than 25w at idle and less than 30w doing a-j3 userland build | (according to my cheap little wattage testing device). | | At first I said sweet! but then I realized if you have to run a build for | 24 hours you probably haven't saved any energy ;-) Or conserve even more power, save the planet and some time and money by using binary builds. Those get built anyway as part of the testing and release process. Feel free to donate all the money you saved to the project; remember that the power it takes to host and build (and cool) a project the size of OpenBSD is not free. And that's just electricity... Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd -- [++-]+++.+++[---].+++[+ +++-].++[-]+.--.[-] http://www.weirdnet.nl/
Re: OpenBSD/amd64 runs on computers equipped with AMD Athlon64
* Nomen Nescio nob...@dizum.com [2011-12-14 03:33]: I've built up several of the Supermicro SYS-5015A-EHF boxes (1U rack, dual core 1.66G Atom, dual Gb Intel LAN, IPMI) with 4GB and an SSD, uses less than 25w at idle and less than 30w doing a-j3 userland build (according to my cheap little wattage testing device). At first I said sweet! but then I realized if you have to run a build for 24 hours you probably haven't saved any energy ;-) build? build WHAT? -- Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org BS Web Services, http://bsws.de, Full-Service ISP Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services. Dedicated Servers, Root to Fully Managed Henning Brauer Consulting, http://henningbrauer.com/
Re: OpenBSD/amd64 runs on computers equipped with AMD Athlon64
Chris Smith obsd_m...@chrissmith.org wrote: uses less than 25w at idle and less than 30w doing a-j3 userland build Nice to know it. :) I have an Compaq Proliant with two 900Mhz processors. It needs about 105w when idle. Inspite of active PFC power supply. With luck I find a Museum that wants it. Rod.
Re: OpenBSD/amd64 runs on computers equipped with AMD Athlon64
First of all, thank you very much to all that answered my question. To Nick Holland: Sounds like you've rediscovered this section: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq12.html#amd64 It is no discovery, I continously change the computer. Right now searching for an old one that do not consume much electricity. The best is a Siemens with a celeron, 800mhz, the whole machine consumes 32w when idle, but goes to 42w or more when I do a little thing like starting the browser. The one with the sempron consuems 42w when idle, but is more stable: perhaps is the power supply the consuming part. There is another reason to use i386: Linux compatibility. I like to use opera browser. Rod.
Re: OpenBSD/amd64 runs on computers equipped with AMD Athlon64
* Peter Kay syllops...@syllopsium.co.uk [2011-12-13 01:20]: On 12 December 2011 21:29, Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote: * sc...@web.de sc...@web.de [2011-12-12 16:06]: BTW: the ethernet on the motherboard (Asus K8U-X) does not work. Acer Labs M5263 LAN rev 0x40 at pci0 dev 13 function 0 not configured indeed. never heard of it, might be as simple as a missing pcidevs entry and driver matching code entry, might require a new driver from scratch. or something in between. Score one for 'something in-between', but at least the work has been done on another BSD. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2011-October/064346.html now it just needs someone with the hardware in question to apply this to our driver and test ;) -- Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org BS Web Services, http://bsws.de, Full-Service ISP Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services. Dedicated Servers, Root to Fully Managed Henning Brauer Consulting, http://henningbrauer.com/
Re: OpenBSD/amd64 runs on computers equipped with AMD Athlon64
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 7:32 AM, sc...@web.de wrote: It is no discovery, I continously change the computer. Right now searching for an old one that do not consume much electricity. The best is a Siemens with a celeron, 800mhz, the whole machine consumes 32w when idle, but goes to 42w or more when I do a little thing like starting the browser. I've built up several of the Supermicro SYS-5015A-EHF boxes (1U rack, dual core 1.66G Atom, dual Gb Intel LAN, IPMI) with 4GB and an SSD, uses less than 25w at idle and less than 30w doing a-j3 userland build (according to my cheap little wattage testing device).
Re: OpenBSD/amd64 runs on computers equipped with AMD Athlon64
On 12/13/11 10:47 AM, Chris Smith wrote: On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 7:32 AM,sc...@web.de wrote: It is no discovery, I continously change the computer. Right now searching for an old one that do not consume much electricity. The best is a Siemens with a celeron, 800mhz, the whole machine consumes 32w when idle, but goes to 42w or more when I do a little thing like starting the browser. I've built up several of the Supermicro SYS-5015A-EHF boxes (1U rack, dual core 1.66G Atom, dual Gb Intel LAN, IPMI) with 4GB and an SSD, uses less than 25w at idle and less than 30w doing a-j3 userland build (according to my cheap little wattage testing device). I can confirmed the power for that box. I have many of them and they sure are working well. Power was 31 watts with a power factor of 87% http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=127621310828630w=2 Best, Daniel
Re: OpenBSD/amd64 runs on computers equipped with AMD Athlon64
I've built up several of the Supermicro SYS-5015A-EHF boxes (1U rack, dual core 1.66G Atom, dual Gb Intel LAN, IPMI) with 4GB and an SSD, uses less than 25w at idle and less than 30w doing a-j3 userland build (according to my cheap little wattage testing device). At first I said sweet! but then I realized if you have to run a build for 24 hours you probably haven't saved any energy ;-)
Re: OpenBSD/amd64 runs on computers equipped with AMD Athlon64
* sc...@web.de sc...@web.de [2011-12-12 12:37]: I have a Sempron 3000+ with 754 sockel, but I am not sure if it supports amd64 instructions. while there are certainly people who dedicate brain capacity to remembering which marketing name for a cpu maps to what core and maybe what features it has disabled, and of course the properties of that core, this one is a no-brainer. boot amd64 bsd.rd. either it boots or it doesn't. -- Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org BS Web Services, http://bsws.de, Full-Service ISP Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services. Dedicated Servers, Root to Fully Managed Henning Brauer Consulting, http://henningbrauer.com/
Re: OpenBSD/amd64 runs on computers equipped with AMD Athlon64
Google is informative. It depends on your stepping. Try it and find out. Wikipedia says 'AMD64 supported by: all models with an OPN ending in BX and CV' and 'E6 stepping or later' If you don't have an OS installed, a boot disk with a CPU information tool would help. On 12/12/2011, sc...@web.de sc...@web.de wrote: Hallo! I took the subjectline from INSTALL.amd64. I hope this is also the right ISO for other AMD processors, not amd64. I have a Sempron 3000+ with 754 sockel, but I am not sure if it supports amd64 instructions. Rod.
Re: OpenBSD/amd64 runs on computers equipped with AMD Athlon64
Peter Kay syllops...@syllopsium.co.uk wrote: Wikipedia says 'AMD64 supported by: all models with an OPN ending in BX and CV' and 'E6 stepping or later' It seems I have a BO: SSE3, but not AMD64 according to dmesg. Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote: this one is a no-brainer. [...] boot amd64 bsd.rd. either it boots or it doesn't. How do you exclude the possibility of something in between? It booted and installed, but it is perhaps not the right image. Should I use an intel image? there is no AMD without 64. BTW: the ethernet on the motherboard (Asus K8U-X) does not work. Rod. --- Here my dmesg after installing: OpenBSD 5.0 (GENERIC) #53: Wed Aug 17 10:07:52 MDT 2011 dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC real mem = 2146238464 (2046MB) avail mem = 2075078656 (1978MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf0500 (58 entries) bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version 0703 date 09/08/2005 bios0: ASUSTeK Computer INC. K8U-X acpi0 at bios0: rev 0 acpi0: sleep states S0 S1 S3 S4 S5 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC OEMB acpi0: wakeup devices HTT_(S4) AC97(S4) MC97(S4) LAN_(S4) USB0(S4) USB1(S4) USB2(S4) UB20(S4) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 32 bits acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3000+, 1800.13 MHz cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SSE3,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW cpu0: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 128KB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache cpu0: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative cpu0: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative cpu0: AMD erratum 89 present, BIOS upgrade may be required cpu0: apic clock running at 199MHz ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 1 pa 0xfec0, version 11, 24 pins acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (P0P1) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 2 (HTT_) acpicpu0 at acpi0: PSS acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB cpu0: Cool'n'Quiet K8 1800 MHz: speeds: 1800 1000 MHz pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Acer Labs M1689 PCI rev 0x00 agp at pchb0 not configured ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Acer Labs M5246 AGP rev 0x00 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 ATI Radeon VE rev 0x00 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) radeondrm0 at vga1: apic 1 int 16 drm0 at radeondrm0 ppb1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Acer Labs M5249 PCI-PCI rev 0x00 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 pcib0 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 Acer Labs M1563 ISA rev 0x70 Acer Labs M7101 Power rev 0x00 at pci0 dev 3 function 1 not configured auacer0 at pci0 dev 4 function 0 Acer Labs M5455 Audio rev 0x20: apic 1 int 18 ac97: codec id 0x41445368 (Analog Devices AD1888) ac97: codec features headphone, 20 bit DAC, No 3D Stereo audio0 at auacer0 Acer Labs M5263 LAN rev 0x40 at pci0 dev 13 function 0 not configured pciide0 at pci0 dev 14 function 0 Acer Labs M5229 UDMA IDE rev 0xc7: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: WDC AC14300R wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 4112MB, 8421840 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4 atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: ATAPI, CD-ROM DRIVE-24X, 242M ATAPI 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2 Acer Labs M5289 SATA rev 0x10 at pci0 dev 14 function 1 not configured ohci0 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 Acer Labs M5237 USB rev 0x03: apic 1 int 20, version 1.0, legacy support ohci1 at pci0 dev 15 function 1 Acer Labs M5237 USB rev 0x03: apic 1 int 21, version 1.0, legacy support ohci2 at pci0 dev 15 function 2 Acer Labs M5237 USB rev 0x03: apic 1 int 22, version 1.0, legacy support ehci0 at pci0 dev 15 function 3 Acer Labs M5239 USB2 rev 0x01: apic 1 int 23 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 Acer Labs EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 pchb1 at pci0 dev 24 function 0 AMD AMD64 0Fh HyperTransport rev 0x00 pchb2 at pci0 dev 24 function 1 AMD AMD64 0Fh Address Map rev 0x00 pchb3 at pci0 dev 24 function 2 AMD AMD64 0Fh DRAM Cfg rev 0x00 kate0 at pci0 dev 24 function 3 AMD AMD64 0Fh Misc Cfg rev 0x00 isa0 at pcib0 isadma0 at isa0 com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 spkr0 at pcppi0 lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7 it0 at isa0 port 0x2e/2: IT8712F rev 7, EC port 0xd00 fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2 usb1 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 Acer Labs OHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb2 at ohci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2 Acer Labs OHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb3 at ohci2: USB revision 1.0 uhub3 at usb3 Acer Labs OHCI root hub
Re: OpenBSD/amd64 runs on computers equipped with AMD Athlon64
On 12/12/11 11:02, sc...@web.de wrote: Peter Kay syllops...@syllopsium.co.uk wrote: Wikipedia says 'AMD64 supported by: all models with an OPN ending in BX and CV' and 'E6 stepping or later' It seems I have a BO: SSE3, but not AMD64 according to dmesg. Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote: this one is a no-brainer. [...] boot amd64 bsd.rd. either it boots or it doesn't. How do you exclude the possibility of something in between? If you find a chip which boots bsd.rd and installs but doesn't boot AMD64 *due to a processor compatibility problem*, you have found something surprising. You are looking for a problem no one else has managed to find. There are more productive things to worry about. The only thing I have seen even close to an issue (and that's a very liberal use of the word close) was a similar Sempron chip and board which I have that showed problems with the PXE code faster than anyone elses machine seemed to. But that was running OpenBSD/i386. :) It booted and installed, but it is perhaps not the right image. Should I use an intel image? there is no AMD without 64. No idea what you are saying there. It works, it will almost certainly keep working. BTW: the ethernet on the motherboard (Asus K8U-X) does not work. yeah, looks like a stinker... Acer Labs M5263 LAN rev 0x40... Nick.
Re: OpenBSD/amd64 runs on computers equipped with AMD Athlon64
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 5:02 PM, sc...@web.de wrote: Peter Kay syllops...@syllopsium.co.uk wrote: Wikipedia says 'AMD64 supported by: all models with an OPN ending in BX and CV' and 'E6 stepping or later' It seems I have a BO: SSE3, but not AMD64 according to dmesg. Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote: this one is a no-brainer. [...] boot amd64 bsd.rd. either it boots or it doesn't. How do you exclude the possibility of something in between? It booted and installed, but it is perhaps not the right image. Should I use an intel image? there is no AMD without 64. Wt? If it's booting and installing then why do you think that it's not correct image? What is Intel image? i386/amd64 is platform suited for any vendor be it Intel, AMD or VIA. BTW: the ethernet on the motherboard (Asus K8U-X) does not work. BTW try current snapshot if it's still unsupported. Rod. --- Here my dmesg after installing: OpenBSD 5.0 (GENERIC) #53: Wed Aug 17 10:07:52 MDT 2011 B B dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC real mem = 2146238464 (2046MB) avail mem = 2075078656 (1978MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf0500 (58 entries) bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version 0703 date 09/08/2005 bios0: ASUSTeK Computer INC. K8U-X acpi0 at bios0: rev 0 acpi0: sleep states S0 S1 S3 S4 S5 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC OEMB acpi0: wakeup devices HTT_(S4) AC97(S4) MC97(S4) LAN_(S4) USB0(S4) USB1(S4) USB2(S4) UB20(S4) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 32 bits acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3000+, 1800.13 MHz cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS H,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SSE3,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW cpu0: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 128KB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache cpu0: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative cpu0: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative cpu0: AMD erratum 89 present, BIOS upgrade may be required cpu0: apic clock running at 199MHz ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 1 pa 0xfec0, version 11, 24 pins acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (P0P1) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 2 (HTT_) acpicpu0 at acpi0: PSS acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB cpu0: Cool'n'Quiet K8 1800 MHz: speeds: 1800 1000 MHz pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Acer Labs M1689 PCI rev 0x00 agp at pchb0 not configured ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Acer Labs M5246 AGP rev 0x00 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 ATI Radeon VE rev 0x00 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) radeondrm0 at vga1: apic 1 int 16 drm0 at radeondrm0 ppb1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Acer Labs M5249 PCI-PCI rev 0x00 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 pcib0 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 Acer Labs M1563 ISA rev 0x70 Acer Labs M7101 Power rev 0x00 at pci0 dev 3 function 1 not configured auacer0 at pci0 dev 4 function 0 Acer Labs M5455 Audio rev 0x20: apic 1 int 18 ac97: codec id 0x41445368 (Analog Devices AD1888) ac97: codec features headphone, 20 bit DAC, No 3D Stereo audio0 at auacer0 Acer Labs M5263 LAN rev 0x40 at pci0 dev 13 function 0 not configured pciide0 at pci0 dev 14 function 0 Acer Labs M5229 UDMA IDE rev 0xc7: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: WDC AC14300R wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 4112MB, 8421840 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4 atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: ATAPI, CD-ROM DRIVE-24X, 242M ATAPI 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2 Acer Labs M5289 SATA rev 0x10 at pci0 dev 14 function 1 not configured ohci0 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 Acer Labs M5237 USB rev 0x03: apic 1 int 20, version 1.0, legacy support ohci1 at pci0 dev 15 function 1 Acer Labs M5237 USB rev 0x03: apic 1 int 21, version 1.0, legacy support ohci2 at pci0 dev 15 function 2 Acer Labs M5237 USB rev 0x03: apic 1 int 22, version 1.0, legacy support ehci0 at pci0 dev 15 function 3 Acer Labs M5239 USB2 rev 0x01: apic 1 int 23 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 Acer Labs EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 pchb1 at pci0 dev 24 function 0 AMD AMD64 0Fh HyperTransport rev 0x00 pchb2 at pci0 dev 24 function 1 AMD AMD64 0Fh Address Map rev 0x00 pchb3 at pci0 dev 24 function 2 AMD AMD64 0Fh DRAM Cfg rev 0x00 kate0 at pci0 dev 24 function 3 AMD AMD64 0Fh Misc Cfg rev 0x00 isa0 at pcib0 isadma0 at isa0 com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 spkr0 at pcppi0 lpt0
Re: OpenBSD/amd64 runs on computers equipped with AMD Athlon64
Nick Holland n...@holland-consulting.net wrote: No idea what you are saying there. It works, it will almost certainly keep working. What does mean: cpu0: [...] LONG, 3DNOW, ...? Is this LONG perhaps the expected AMD64? BTW: Perhaps I end using i386, this has the advantage that I can put the hard drive on any another computer later. Rod.
Re: OpenBSD/amd64 runs on computers equipped with AMD Athlon64
No, amd64 will only run on 64 bit x86 processors, so any 64 bit intel or amd will work(amd made the architecture, so it's called amd64 or x86_64.) No 32 bit processor will be able to run it On Mon, 12 Dec 2011, sc...@web.de wrote: Hallo! I took the subjectline from INSTALL.amd64. I hope this is also the right ISO for other AMD processors, not amd64. I have a Sempron 3000+ with 754 sockel, but I am not sure if it supports amd64 instructions. Rod.
Re: OpenBSD/amd64 runs on computers equipped with AMD Athlon64
On 12 Dec 2011, at 12:50, Tekk wrote: No, amd64 will only run on 64 bit x86 processors, so any 64 bit intel or amd will work(amd made the architecture, so it's called amd64 or x86_64.) No 32 bit processor will be able to run it For completeness, non-Itanium 64-bit Intel processors. Michael
Re: OpenBSD/amd64 runs on computers equipped with AMD Athlon64
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011, Michael H Lambert wrote: On 12 Dec 2011, at 12:50, Tekk wrote: No, amd64 will only run on 64 bit x86 processors, so any 64 bit intel or amd will work(amd made the architecture, so it's called amd64 or x86_64.) No 32 bit processor will be able to run it For completeness, non-Itanium 64-bit Intel processors. Michael Of course, made the assumption that he wouldn't know what itanium is and it'd confuse him more ;)(sorry if I actually ended up causing confusion)
Re: OpenBSD/amd64 runs on computers equipped with AMD Athlon64
On 12/12/11 12:38, sc...@web.de wrote: Nick Holland n...@holland-consulting.net wrote: No idea what you are saying there. It works, it will almost certainly keep working. What does mean: cpu0: [...] LONG, 3DNOW, ...? Is this LONG perhaps the expected AMD64? No idea, I'm not a kernel hacker. If you were, you would probably know, so it probably doesn't matter to you, either. If it works, you got what you need. BTW: Perhaps I end using i386, this has the advantage that I can put the hard drive on any another computer later. An entirely reasonable decision. Sounds like you've rediscovered this section: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq12.html#amd64 Nick.
Re: OpenBSD/amd64 runs on computers equipped with AMD Athlon64
* sc...@web.de sc...@web.de [2011-12-12 16:06]: Peter Kay syllops...@syllopsium.co.uk wrote: Wikipedia says 'AMD64 supported by: all models with an OPN ending in BX and CV' and 'E6 stepping or later' It seems I have a BO: SSE3, but not AMD64 according to dmesg. Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote: this one is a no-brainer. [...] boot amd64 bsd.rd. either it boots or it doesn't. How do you exclude the possibility of something in between? if you machine was not capable of running amd64 you could never have installed it. these machines don't even get to the copyright line. It booted and installed, but it is perhaps not the right image. Should I use an intel image? there is no AMD without 64. amd makes i386 cpus, too. intel makes amd64 cpus, too. they use marketing names. we name architectures and stick with them. BTW: the ethernet on the motherboard (Asus K8U-X) does not work. Acer Labs M5263 LAN rev 0x40 at pci0 dev 13 function 0 not configured indeed. never heard of it, might be as simple as a missing pcidevs entry and driver matching code entry, might require a new driver from scratch. or something in between. -- Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org BS Web Services, http://bsws.de, Full-Service ISP Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services. Dedicated Servers, Root to Fully Managed Henning Brauer Consulting, http://henningbrauer.com/
Re: OpenBSD/amd64 runs on computers equipped with AMD Athlon64
On 12 December 2011 21:29, Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote: * sc...@web.de sc...@web.de [2011-12-12 16:06]: BTW: the ethernet on the motherboard (Asus K8U-X) does not work. Acer Labs M5263 LAN rev 0x40 at pci0 dev 13 function 0 not configured indeed. never heard of it, might be as simple as a missing pcidevs entry and driver matching code entry, might require a new driver from scratch. or something in between. Score one for 'something in-between', but at least the work has been done on another BSD. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2011-October/064346.html PK
