Re: Recommendation for T41 Wireless

2006-11-01 Thread Martin Toft

Jonathan Gray wrote:

Get a Ralink based card, they work great.
You'll have to run tpwireless from ports before you put it in
to get around the stupid IBM whitelist though.


To continue an old thread...

Unfortunately, I cannot find a shop (in Denmark...) that sells a 
mini-PCI wireless ethernet adapter with a Ralink chips set (ral(4)). So, 
if ral(4) supported cards is out of the question, which cards do you 
then recommend?


Thanks.

--Martin



Re: Recommendation for T41 Wireless

2006-11-01 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/11/01 14:43, Martin Toft wrote:
 Unfortunately, I cannot find a shop (in Denmark...) that sells a 
 mini-PCI wireless ethernet adapter with a Ralink chips set (ral(4)).

Not exactly Denmark, but Wim sells them -
https://kd85.com/soekris.html



Re: Recommendation for T41 Wireless

2006-10-15 Thread Jonathan Gray
On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 07:57:56AM +0100, mal content wrote:
 Hello.
 
 I was recently given an IBM T41 laptop. I've had little experience
 of laptop hardware, and no experience of wireless. The laptop itself
 didn't come with any wireless hardware (which, I gather, is a good thing
 as it would have been closed intel stuff).
 
 I would like to get some sort of wireless card for it. What would the users
 of this list recommend? It'll run OpenBSD 4.0, of course.
 
 thanks,
 MC

Get a Ralink based card, they work great.
You'll have to run tpwireless from ports before you put it in
to get around the stupid IBM whitelist though.



Re: Recommendation for T41 Wireless

2006-10-15 Thread mal content

On 15/10/06, Jonathan Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 07:57:56AM +0100, mal content wrote:
 Hello.

 I was recently given an IBM T41 laptop. I've had little experience
 of laptop hardware, and no experience of wireless. The laptop itself
 didn't come with any wireless hardware (which, I gather, is a good thing
 as it would have been closed intel stuff).

 I would like to get some sort of wireless card for it. What would the users
 of this list recommend? It'll run OpenBSD 4.0, of course.

 thanks,
 MC

Get a Ralink based card, they work great.
You'll have to run tpwireless from ports before you put it in
to get around the stupid IBM whitelist though.



Hi.

http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=136500

This uses the Ralink chipset doesn't it? I just want to be sure before I
place an order.

thanks,
MC



Re: Recommendation for T41 Wireless

2006-10-15 Thread Stephan Tesch
Am Sonntag, 15. Oktober 2006 08:57 schrieben Sie:

Hi!

 I was recently given an IBM T41 laptop. I've had little experience
 of laptop hardware, and no experience of wireless. The laptop itself
 didn't come with any wireless hardware (which, I gather, is a good thing
 as it would have been closed intel stuff).

 I would like to get some sort of wireless card for it. What would the users
 of this list recommend? It'll run OpenBSD 4.0, of course.

Personally, I run a ral(4) MiniPCI wireless card on my router (WRAP). It works 
quite well compared to the ath I had before. And those cards are quite cheap.

ral0 at pci0 dev 13 function 0 Ralink RT2560 rev 0x01: irq 12, address ...
ral0: MAC/BBP RT2560 (rev 0x04), RF RT2525

Hope this helps,
Stephan



Re: Recommendation for T41 Wireless

2006-10-15 Thread Jonathan Gray
On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 08:52:07AM +0100, mal content wrote:
 On 15/10/06, Jonathan Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 07:57:56AM +0100, mal content wrote:
  Hello.
 
  I was recently given an IBM T41 laptop. I've had little experience
  of laptop hardware, and no experience of wireless. The laptop itself
  didn't come with any wireless hardware (which, I gather, is a good thing
  as it would have been closed intel stuff).
 
  I would like to get some sort of wireless card for it. What would the 
 users
  of this list recommend? It'll run OpenBSD 4.0, of course.
 
  thanks,
  MC
 
 Get a Ralink based card, they work great.
 You'll have to run tpwireless from ports before you put it in
 to get around the stupid IBM whitelist though.
 
 
 Hi.
 
 http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=136500
 
 This uses the Ralink chipset doesn't it? I just want to be sure before I
 place an order.
 
 thanks,
 MC

Well some companies like Belkin make it hard to tell as they change things.
If you don't mind opening up your thinkpad you should be able to place
an internal Mini PCI card.  These have the advantage of having the main
chip clearly visible so you can tell what you're getting.  People like
wim sell them clearly marked as Ralink cards.

If you want an external CardBus card look at the device list in the
ral man page ral(4).

Jonathan



Re: Recommendation for T41 Wireless

2006-10-15 Thread mal content

On 15/10/06, Jonathan Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Well some companies like Belkin make it hard to tell as they change things.
If you don't mind opening up your thinkpad you should be able to place
an internal Mini PCI card.  These have the advantage of having the main
chip clearly visible so you can tell what you're getting.  People like
wim sell them clearly marked as Ralink cards.

If you want an external CardBus card look at the device list in the
ral man page ral(4).

Jonathan



Ok, thank you!

MC



Re: Recommendation for T41 Wireless

2006-10-15 Thread Joseph C. Bender

Jonathan Gray wrote:


Well some companies like Belkin make it hard to tell as they change things.
If you don't mind opening up your thinkpad you should be able to place
an internal Mini PCI card.  These have the advantage of having the main
chip clearly visible so you can tell what you're getting.  People like
wim sell them clearly marked as Ralink cards.


This is to the OP, but it's a good place to interject this comment:

	If the Thinkpad was not shipped with a wireless card, make sure that 
it's at least one of the wireless ready models with the antennas 
already provisioned in the laptop lid.


	The fastest way to check this is to pull the keyboard screws and the 
palmrest screws (The ones marked with the keyboard symbols, then the 
ones marked with symbols that look like a mini-PCI card), pulling the 
keyboard first, then the other.  There will be two antenna cables, one 
marked MAIN, the other marked AUX.  These will be next to or on top 
of the Mini-PCI slot that the wireless NIC goes into.  If you don't have 
those, you don't have the antennas installed.


	Install kits can be gotten from IBM or eBay or some such, but require 
disassembly of the laptop lid as well, and can be really tricky.


	FWIW, you might want to check for those first before you make any 
buying decisions.


-Joe

--
Joseph C. Bender
jcbender at bendorius com