Re: Re : Tux cups
Tue 14.May'13 at 9:04:27 +0930, Brett Lymn > On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:58:08AM +0100, James Griffin wrote: > > > > I just use the base vi(1) > > and then fmt(1) to format the text. Same for mail(1) if use the command > > to write in an external editor. > > > > Why not: > > set editor="EXINIT=':set wrapmargin=8' vi %s" > > in the muttrc? No need for fmt. Thanks Brett, I tried to find a way of doing something like that for some time, but failed. So thanks for the tip! very useful. -- James Griffin: jmz at kontrol.kode5.net jmzgriffin at gmail.com A4B9 E875 A18C 6E11 F46D B788 BEE6 1251 1D31 DC38
Re: Re : Tux cups
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:58:08AM +0100, James Griffin wrote: > > I just use the base vi(1) > and then fmt(1) to format the text. Same for mail(1) if use the command > to write in an external editor. > Why not: set editor="EXINIT=':set wrapmargin=8' vi %s" in the muttrc? No need for fmt. -- Brett Lymn "Warning: The information contained in this email and any attached files is confidential to BAE Systems Australia. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email or any attachments is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately. VIRUS: Every care has been taken to ensure this email and its attachments are virus free, however, any loss or damage incurred in using this email is not the sender's responsibility. It is your responsibility to ensure virus checks are completed before installing any data sent in this email to your computer."
Re: Re : Tux cups
Sun 12.May'13 at 15:41:11 -0600, Evan Root > So Stuart, > I was looking at the OpenBSD mailing list rules because I > wasn't sure about long links and I saw that lines over 72 > characters are discouraged, that's were I decided to manually > put in line breaks. :/ Although your point about a direct link > to something that isn't google is a valid point. > > Question for everybody that uses console mailers; > Does Mutt and the other text based mailers > have line wrap enabled by default? or do they go off the edge mutt and console MUA's usually use an external editor, $VISUAL, usually vi(1). The text will just continue to the width of you terminal and then wrap the line on to the next row. Vim, can automatically be set to wrap lines i believe, i don't use it though, I just use the base vi(1) and then fmt(1) to format the text. Same for mail(1) if use the command to write in an external editor. So, the answer is no - the mutt and console MUA's don't do text formatting; the editor does.
Re: Re : Tux cups
So Stuart, I was looking at the OpenBSD mailing list rules because I wasn't sure about long links and I saw that lines over 72 characters are discouraged, that's were I decided to manually put in line breaks. :/ Although your point about a direct link to something that isn't google is a valid point. Question for everybody that uses console mailers; Does Mutt and the other text based mailers have line wrap enabled by default? or do they go off the edge of the screen? For me I use firefox for mail, even on my OBSD machine. Regards, Evan On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 7:02 AM, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2013-05-10, Evan Root wrote: > > Hey Erling, > > Maybe we should figure out where the default file is and > > replace it with this: > > > > http://www.google.com/url? > > sa=i&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=a0cEbvZbg > > RAZYM&tbnid=FtFrLkyNwZjx6M:&ved=0CAgQjRwwAA > > &url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stealthcopter.com%2Fblog > > %2F2010%2F04%2Fdell-1320c-colour-laser-printer-mac > > hine-identification-code-microdots%2F&ei=3zKNUZzLG > > 8GgyAHqhIDYCA&psig=AFQjCNHQfMT7uZeIy7hp2a60 > > 2ovnjfOF9Q&ust=1368294495492423 > > > > Note on the above. You will need to remove the newlines > > from that beauty if you want to be able to click it. > > > > Wish this list accepted attachements because I could show > > you a scan of the Mac os x default test page that is the > > same as above. > > It has no logos except the Cups C with 'unix printing system' > > inside it, even though Apple employs Micheal Sweet. > > > > Also what is the etiquette on posting links? The guidelines > > for misc don't mention it. > > No problem including links but it would be better to include a link to > the page itself, rather than to google's redirector. > > And with the forced line-breaks you change it from something that > some people will be able to click on or paste in directly, to > something that everyone will need to edit. > > > http://www.stealthcopter.com/blog/2010/04/dell-1320c-colour-laser-printer-machine-identification-code-microdots/ > > -- Evan Root, CCNA 505.917.7873
Re: Re : Tux cups
On 2013-05-10, Evan Root wrote: > Hey Erling, > Maybe we should figure out where the default file is and > replace it with this: > > http://www.google.com/url? > sa=i&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=a0cEbvZbg > RAZYM&tbnid=FtFrLkyNwZjx6M:&ved=0CAgQjRwwAA > &url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stealthcopter.com%2Fblog > %2F2010%2F04%2Fdell-1320c-colour-laser-printer-mac > hine-identification-code-microdots%2F&ei=3zKNUZzLG > 8GgyAHqhIDYCA&psig=AFQjCNHQfMT7uZeIy7hp2a60 > 2ovnjfOF9Q&ust=1368294495492423 > > Note on the above. You will need to remove the newlines > from that beauty if you want to be able to click it. > > Wish this list accepted attachements because I could show > you a scan of the Mac os x default test page that is the > same as above. > It has no logos except the Cups C with 'unix printing system' > inside it, even though Apple employs Micheal Sweet. > > Also what is the etiquette on posting links? The guidelines > for misc don't mention it. No problem including links but it would be better to include a link to the page itself, rather than to google's redirector. And with the forced line-breaks you change it from something that some people will be able to click on or paste in directly, to something that everyone will need to edit. http://www.stealthcopter.com/blog/2010/04/dell-1320c-colour-laser-printer-machine-identification-code-microdots/
Re: Re : Tux cups
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 09:01:09PM +0200, Zeljko Jovanovic wrote: > On 10.05.2013. 19:55, Evan Root wrote: > > >Hey Erling, > >Maybe we should figure out where the default file is and > >replace it with this: > >... > >Wish this list accepted attachements because I could show > >you a scan of the Mac os x default test page that is the > >same as above. > >It has no logos except the Cups C with 'unix printing system' > >inside it, even though Apple employs Micheal Sweet. > > Out of curiosity, I've just tried printing CUPS test page on Slackware Linux, > and it is exactly like the picture from your link. > Just C - Unix Printing System logo, and no penguins of any kind. > > The used pictures are cups.png and color-wheel.png from > /usr/doc/cups-1.5.4/images directory. > > The question remains... > if the tux logo is not CUPS' default, and it is not ubiquitous even on Linux, > how did it find its way to OpenBSD? Because slackware uses an older cups version. The test page comes from cups-filters. -- Antoine
Re: Re : Tux cups
I think I've found the culpri(n)t: /usr/local/share/cups/data/default-testpage.pdf Erling On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 11:55:48AM -0600, Evan Root wrote: > Hey Erling, > Maybe we should figure out where the default file is and > replace it with this: > > http://www.google.com/url? > sa=i&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=a0cEbvZbg > RAZYM&tbnid=FtFrLkyNwZjx6M:&ved=0CAgQjRwwAA > &url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stealthcopter.com%2Fblog > %2F2010%2F04%2Fdell-1320c-colour-laser-printer-mac > hine-identification-code-microdots%2F&ei=3zKNUZzLG > 8GgyAHqhIDYCA&psig=AFQjCNHQfMT7uZeIy7hp2a60 > 2ovnjfOF9Q&ust=1368294495492423 > > Note on the above. You will need to remove the newlines > from that beauty if you want to be able to click it. > > Wish this list accepted attachements because I could show > you a scan of the Mac os x default test page that is the > same as above. > It has no logos except the Cups C with 'unix printing system' > inside it, even though Apple employs Micheal Sweet. > > Also what is the etiquette on posting links? The guidelines > for misc don't mention it. > > -Evan > > > On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 2:47 AM, Huy Nguyen wrote: > > > Printing a masturbating monkey would be a great test job. > > > > > > Le samedi 4 mai 2013 ? 08:05, Antoine Jacoutot a ?crit : > > > > > On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 06:01:24PM -0400, Michael W. Lucas wrote: > > > > On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 10:41:32PM +0200, Erling Westenvik wrote: > > > > > To my astonishment: when printing a test page from cups, it outputs > > an > > > > > image of Tux!?! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cups is Linux-ware, ported to OpenBSD. > > > > > > Used-to be linux-ware. Actually lots of its initial features got moved to > > the more linux-centric cups-filters. > > > Both upstreams are really easy to work with and accept portability > > patches > > with pleasure... > > > > > > But I disgress, the original question was regarding the Tux logo. The > > reason > > is simple, it's just a default print test page; actually most linux distros > > ship with their own modified^branded one. > > > Unless someone comes up with a super cool puffy print test page, I don't > > see > > the point in changing the default; who cares whether you are printing a > > penguin or a monkey eating bananas... it's just a test job. > > > > > > -- > > > Antoine
Re: Re : Tux cups
On 10.05.2013. 20:51, Erling Westenvik wrote: The intention with my original email was actually to be kind of funny but the smiley got lost somehow.. Well, all right then. :)
Re: Re : Tux cups
On 10.05.2013. 19:55, Evan Root wrote: Hey Erling, Maybe we should figure out where the default file is and replace it with this: ... Wish this list accepted attachements because I could show you a scan of the Mac os x default test page that is the same as above. It has no logos except the Cups C with 'unix printing system' inside it, even though Apple employs Micheal Sweet. Out of curiosity, I've just tried printing CUPS test page on Slackware Linux, and it is exactly like the picture from your link. Just C - Unix Printing System logo, and no penguins of any kind. The used pictures are cups.png and color-wheel.png from /usr/doc/cups-1.5.4/images directory. The question remains... if the tux logo is not CUPS' default, and it is not ubiquitous even on Linux, how did it find its way to OpenBSD?
Re: Re : Tux cups
The intention with my original email was actually to be kind of funny but the smiley got lost somehow.. It would be nice to see OpenBSD being branded in output from the system itself like it does on the xdm login screen (or at least that it doesn't output linux'ism), but even I realize that there are probably more important priorities out there. Regards, Erling On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 11:55:48AM -0600, Evan Root wrote: > Hey Erling, > Maybe we should figure out where the default file is and > replace it with this: > > http://www.google.com/url? > sa=i&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=a0cEbvZbg > RAZYM&tbnid=FtFrLkyNwZjx6M:&ved=0CAgQjRwwAA > &url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stealthcopter.com%2Fblog > %2F2010%2F04%2Fdell-1320c-colour-laser-printer-mac > hine-identification-code-microdots%2F&ei=3zKNUZzLG > 8GgyAHqhIDYCA&psig=AFQjCNHQfMT7uZeIy7hp2a60 > 2ovnjfOF9Q&ust=1368294495492423 > > Note on the above. You will need to remove the newlines > from that beauty if you want to be able to click it. > > Wish this list accepted attachements because I could show > you a scan of the Mac os x default test page that is the > same as above. > It has no logos except the Cups C with 'unix printing system' > inside it, even though Apple employs Micheal Sweet. > > Also what is the etiquette on posting links? The guidelines > for misc don't mention it. > > -Evan > > > On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 2:47 AM, Huy Nguyen wrote: > > > Printing a masturbating monkey would be a great test job. > > > > > > Le samedi 4 mai 2013 ? 08:05, Antoine Jacoutot a ?crit : > > > > > On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 06:01:24PM -0400, Michael W. Lucas wrote: > > > > On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 10:41:32PM +0200, Erling Westenvik wrote: > > > > > To my astonishment: when printing a test page from cups, it outputs > > an > > > > > image of Tux!?! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cups is Linux-ware, ported to OpenBSD. > > > > > > Used-to be linux-ware. Actually lots of its initial features got moved to > > the more linux-centric cups-filters. > > > Both upstreams are really easy to work with and accept portability > > patches > > with pleasure... > > > > > > But I disgress, the original question was regarding the Tux logo. The > > reason > > is simple, it's just a default print test page; actually most linux distros > > ship with their own modified^branded one. > > > Unless someone comes up with a super cool puffy print test page, I don't > > see > > the point in changing the default; who cares whether you are printing a > > penguin or a monkey eating bananas... it's just a test job. > > > > > > -- > > > Antoine > > > > > > > -- > Evan Root, CCNA > 505.917.7873 > -- Regards, Erling Westenvik Grønlandsleiret 19 A 0190 OSLO Norway Mobile: +47 94 42 25 42 -- In terra pax homínibus bonae voluntátis () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ Sent from my toaster
Re: Re : Tux cups
Hey Erling, Maybe we should figure out where the default file is and replace it with this: http://www.google.com/url? sa=i&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=a0cEbvZbg RAZYM&tbnid=FtFrLkyNwZjx6M:&ved=0CAgQjRwwAA &url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stealthcopter.com%2Fblog %2F2010%2F04%2Fdell-1320c-colour-laser-printer-mac hine-identification-code-microdots%2F&ei=3zKNUZzLG 8GgyAHqhIDYCA&psig=AFQjCNHQfMT7uZeIy7hp2a60 2ovnjfOF9Q&ust=1368294495492423 Note on the above. You will need to remove the newlines from that beauty if you want to be able to click it. Wish this list accepted attachements because I could show you a scan of the Mac os x default test page that is the same as above. It has no logos except the Cups C with 'unix printing system' inside it, even though Apple employs Micheal Sweet. Also what is the etiquette on posting links? The guidelines for misc don't mention it. -Evan On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 2:47 AM, Huy Nguyen wrote: > Printing a masturbating monkey would be a great test job. > > > Le samedi 4 mai 2013 à 08:05, Antoine Jacoutot a écrit : > > > On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 06:01:24PM -0400, Michael W. Lucas wrote: > > > On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 10:41:32PM +0200, Erling Westenvik wrote: > > > > To my astonishment: when printing a test page from cups, it outputs > an > > > > image of Tux!?! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cups is Linux-ware, ported to OpenBSD. > > > > Used-to be linux-ware. Actually lots of its initial features got moved to > the more linux-centric cups-filters. > > Both upstreams are really easy to work with and accept portability > patches > with pleasure... > > > > But I disgress, the original question was regarding the Tux logo. The > reason > is simple, it's just a default print test page; actually most linux distros > ship with their own modified^branded one. > > Unless someone comes up with a super cool puffy print test page, I don't > see > the point in changing the default; who cares whether you are printing a > penguin or a monkey eating bananas... it's just a test job. > > > > -- > > Antoine > > -- Evan Root, CCNA 505.917.7873
Re : Tux cups
Printing a masturbating monkey would be a great test job. Le samedi 4 mai 2013 à 08:05, Antoine Jacoutot a écrit : > On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 06:01:24PM -0400, Michael W. Lucas wrote: > > On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 10:41:32PM +0200, Erling Westenvik wrote: > > > To my astonishment: when printing a test page from cups, it outputs an > > > image of Tux!?! > > > > > > > > > Cups is Linux-ware, ported to OpenBSD. > > Used-to be linux-ware. Actually lots of its initial features got moved to the more linux-centric cups-filters. > Both upstreams are really easy to work with and accept portability patches with pleasure... > > But I disgress, the original question was regarding the Tux logo. The reason is simple, it's just a default print test page; actually most linux distros ship with their own modified^branded one. > Unless someone comes up with a super cool puffy print test page, I don't see the point in changing the default; who cares whether you are printing a penguin or a monkey eating bananas... it's just a test job. > > -- > Antoine
Re: Tux cups
On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 06:01:24PM -0400, Michael W. Lucas wrote: > On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 10:41:32PM +0200, Erling Westenvik wrote: > > To my astonishment: when printing a test page from cups, it outputs an > > image of Tux!?! > > Cups is Linux-ware, ported to OpenBSD. Used-to be linux-ware. Actually lots of its initial features got moved to the more linux-centric cups-filters. Both upstreams are really easy to work with and accept portability patches with pleasure... But I disgress, the original question was regarding the Tux logo. The reason is simple, it's just a default print test page; actually most linux distros ship with their own modified^branded one. Unless someone comes up with a super cool puffy print test page, I don't see the point in changing the default; who cares whether you are printing a penguin or a monkey eating bananas... it's just a test job. -- Antoine
Re: Tux cups
Michael W. Lucas wrote: > > To my astonishment: when printing a test page from cups, it outputs an > > image of Tux!?! > > Cups is Linux-ware, ported to OpenBSD. > The name claims to be "common," but no, it's Linux-centric. Actually... "CUPS is the standards-based, open source printing system developed by Apple Inc. for OS(R) X and other UNIX(R)-like operating systems." -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber na...@mips.inka.de
Re: Tux cups
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't CUPS originally UNIX-ware? Quoting: 'UPS is the standards-based, open source printing system developed by Apple Inc. for OS® X and other UNIX®-like operating systems.' Best regards, Nikola Gyurov On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Michael W. Lucas wrote: > On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 10:41:32PM +0200, Erling Westenvik wrote: >> To my astonishment: when printing a test page from cups, it outputs an >> image of Tux!?! > > Cups is Linux-ware, ported to OpenBSD. > > The name claims to be "common," but no, it's Linux-centric. As the > test logo shows. > > ==ml > > -- > Michael W. Lucas - mwlu...@michaelwlucas.com, Twitter @mwlauthor > http://www.MichaelWLucas.com/, http://blather.MichaelWLucas.com/ > Absolute OpenBSD 2/e - http://www.nostarch.com/openbsd2e > coupon code "ILUVMICHAEL" gets you 30% off & helps me.
Re: Tux cups
On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 10:41:32PM +0200, Erling Westenvik wrote: > To my astonishment: when printing a test page from cups, it outputs an > image of Tux!?! Cups is Linux-ware, ported to OpenBSD. The name claims to be "common," but no, it's Linux-centric. As the test logo shows. ==ml -- Michael W. Lucas - mwlu...@michaelwlucas.com, Twitter @mwlauthor http://www.MichaelWLucas.com/, http://blather.MichaelWLucas.com/ Absolute OpenBSD 2/e - http://www.nostarch.com/openbsd2e coupon code "ILUVMICHAEL" gets you 30% off & helps me.
