Re: WebHosting Management Software
On Friday 29 May 2009 05:24:33 Insan Praja SW wrote: Hi Misc@, I'm currently looking for some OpenBSD-friendly (OpenSource/Free) WebHosting Management software. My colleagues seem to find a hardtimes for this kind of software works with OpenBSD. Any clue and input appreciated. Thanks, WebMin/UserMin _was_ in ports, you can try to take port from Attic and update. It has awful security track, though. I think you can also set up cPanel, it's mostly Perl-based so not a big problem. But it'll require some discussion with its authors about compiling cPanel kernel for OpenBSD. AFAIK, you'll have success chances if you order more than one license from them. (And yes, it's a piece of very, very crap code too). -- Best wishes, Vadim Zhukov A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
Re: WebHosting Management Software
Hi Misc@, On Fri, 29 May 2009 12:40:04 +0700, Lars Nooden lars.cura...@gmail.com wrote: Working with web hosting is easy. Put the OpenAFS client on your web team's macintoshes and then use it to access the directories hosted on your OpenBSD web server: http://www.openafs.org/macos.html Nice.. I'll tell them about this From there it is about the same access as having the files on your local harddrive. There are OpenAFS clients for linux too but see your distro's repository for details. The web boys decided to use debian and ISPCP for this cPanel-like/virtual hosting since it's considered secure and stable and off course, they got front protection from us. Regards, -Lars Regards, Insan -- insandotpraja(at)gmaildotcom
Re: WebHosting Management Software
On Thursday 28 May 2009 21:24:33 Insan Praja SW wrote: Hi Misc@, I'm currently looking for some OpenBSD-friendly (OpenSource/Free) WebHosting Management software. My colleagues seem to find a hardtimes for this kind of software works with OpenBSD. Any clue and input appreciated. Thanks, Insan, I'm not trying to be snarky here, but I would suggest... ssh. Today I've been dealing with phpMyAdmin, trying to get the beast up, and I believe I have it and am getting mysql up. But had I not had to fight phpMyAdmin, I'd have been farther along today. This tendency to use gui tools for things isn't good. No one can possibly say that their security increases by using them--you add complexity, and that always gives rise to new possibilities of trouble. But the worse problem here is that by using some tool to do things, you haven't learned whats going on under the hood. Not really. --STeve Andre'
Re: WebHosting Management Software
On Fri, 29 May 2009 08:38:27 +0700, STeve Andre' and...@msu.edu wrote: On Thursday 28 May 2009 21:24:33 Insan Praja SW wrote: Hi Misc@, I'm currently looking for some OpenBSD-friendly (OpenSource/Free) WebHosting Management software. My colleagues seem to find a hardtimes for this kind of software works with OpenBSD. Any clue and input appreciated. Thanks, Insan, Steve, I'm not trying to be snarky here, but I would suggest... ssh. That's exactly I suggested to those guys.. some chroot-ed accounts for sftp/ssh and etc.. Today I've been dealing with phpMyAdmin, trying to get the beast up, and I believe I have it and am getting mysql up. But had I not had to fight phpMyAdmin, I'd have been farther along today. This tendency to use gui tools for things isn't good. No one can possibly say that their security increases by using them--you add complexity, and that always gives rise to new possibilities of trouble. The GUI-thingies are meant to ease our users to manage their virtual domains, virtual mail boxes and etc.. And they don't do text-based configuration :), they are basically M$ users. But the worse problem here is that by using some tool to do things, you haven't learned whats going on under the hood. Not really. Agreed, --STeve Andre' Kind Regards, Insan Praja SW, -- insandotpraja(at)gmaildotcom
Re: WebHosting Management Software
STeve Andre' wrote: On Thursday 28 May 2009 21:24:33 Insan Praja SW wrote: Hi Misc@, I'm currently looking for some OpenBSD-friendly (OpenSource/Free) WebHosting Management software. My colleagues seem to find a hardtimes for this kind of software works with OpenBSD. Any clue and input appreciated. Thanks, Insan, I'm not trying to be snarky here, but I would suggest... ssh. Today I've been dealing with phpMyAdmin, trying to get the beast up, and I believe I have it and am getting mysql up. But had I not had to fight phpMyAdmin, I'd have been farther along today. This tendency to use gui tools for things isn't good. No one can possibly say that their security increases by using them--you add complexity, and that always gives rise to new possibilities of trouble. But the worse problem here is that by using some tool to do things, you haven't learned whats going on under the hood. Not really. --STeve Andre' I really have to agree with this, even if this isn't the answer you want to hear. --Oh just saw your reply back --well make pretty buttons to go with proper command line responses that you would make, give them that proper walmart/mcdonalds feel, just keep them in the proper pasture! Chris Bennett
Re: WebHosting Management Software
Working with web hosting is easy. Put the OpenAFS client on your web team's macintoshes and then use it to access the directories hosted on your OpenBSD web server: http://www.openafs.org/macos.html From there it is about the same access as having the files on your local harddrive. There are OpenAFS clients for linux too but see your distro's repository for details. Regards, -Lars
