Re: bgpd and multihop

2007-06-29 Thread Henning Brauer
* Jon Morby [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-06-29 02:56]:
 I've just updated one of our routers from an end of May snapshot to a  
 Jun 28th snapshot and have noticed that we seem to be having problems  
 with our multihop sessions since the upgrade.

errr... I'm inlcined to say impossible, since there weren't many 
changes at all in bgpd since then, and nothing that remotely touches 
nexthop verification. check your routes, something must be different.
bgpctl sh nex on both machines might give insight

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Re: bgpd and multihop

2007-06-29 Thread Henning Brauer
* Jon Morby [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-06-29 11:20]:
 On 29 Jun 2007, at 08:47, Henning Brauer wrote:
 
 * Jon Morby [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-06-29 02:56]:
 I've just updated one of our routers from an end of May snapshot to a
 Jun 28th snapshot and have noticed that we seem to be having problems
 with our multihop sessions since the upgrade.
 
 errr... I'm inlcined to say impossible, since there weren't many
 changes at all in bgpd since then, and nothing that remotely touches
 nexthop verification. check your routes, something must be different.
 bgpctl sh nex on both machines might give insight
 
 
 I know ... whether it's just something that has now cropped up  
 because it's the first time these several of these boxes have been  
 rebooted in months ...
 
 The addition of nexthop qualify via bgp seems to have overcome  
 things .. however the next hops should be learnt by ospf and are  
 reachable (otherwise the bgp sessions wouldn't actually be up, which  
 they are)

well, as said, bgpctl sh nex will tell what is going on, maybe bgpctl 
sh fib is required too

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Re: bgpd and multihop

2007-06-29 Thread Jon Morby

On 29 Jun 2007, at 08:47, Henning Brauer wrote:


* Jon Morby [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-06-29 02:56]:

I've just updated one of our routers from an end of May snapshot to a
Jun 28th snapshot and have noticed that we seem to be having problems
with our multihop sessions since the upgrade.


errr... I'm inlcined to say impossible, since there weren't many
changes at all in bgpd since then, and nothing that remotely touches
nexthop verification. check your routes, something must be different.
bgpctl sh nex on both machines might give insight



I know ... whether it's just something that has now cropped up  
because it's the first time these several of these boxes have been  
rebooted in months ...


The addition of nexthop qualify via bgp seems to have overcome  
things .. however the next hops should be learnt by ospf and are  
reachable (otherwise the bgp sessions wouldn't actually be up, which  
they are)




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Re: bgpd and multihop

2007-06-29 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/06/29 10:15, Jon Morby wrote:
 On 29 Jun 2007, at 08:47, Henning Brauer wrote:

 * Jon Morby [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-06-29 02:56]:
 I've just updated one of our routers from an end of May snapshot to a
 Jun 28th snapshot and have noticed that we seem to be having problems
 with our multihop sessions since the upgrade.

 errr... I'm inlcined to say impossible, since there weren't many
 changes at all in bgpd since then, and nothing that remotely touches
 nexthop verification. check your routes, something must be different.
 bgpctl sh nex on both machines might give insight


 I know ... whether it's just something that has now cropped up because it's 
 the first time these several of these boxes have been rebooted in months ...

 The addition of nexthop qualify via bgp seems to have overcome things .. 
 however the next hops should be learnt by ospf and are reachable (otherwise 
 the bgp sessions wouldn't actually be up, which they are)

Are the nexthops in subnets where you receive the same exact prefixes
by both BGP and OSPF? I have found ospfd sometimes doesn't overwrite
routes installed by bgpd. That's not new though..



Re: bgpd and multihop

2007-06-29 Thread Jon Morby

On 29 Jun 2007, at 11:12, Stuart Henderson wrote:





I know ... whether it's just something that has now cropped up  
because it's
the first time these several of these boxes have been rebooted in  
months ...


The addition of nexthop qualify via bgp seems to have overcome  
things ..
however the next hops should be learnt by ospf and are reachable  
(otherwise

the bgp sessions wouldn't actually be up, which they are)


Are the nexthops in subnets where you receive the same exact prefixes
by both BGP and OSPF? I have found ospfd sometimes doesn't overwrite
routes installed by bgpd. That's not new though..


Yup .. most likely ...

certainly qualifying via bgp seems to have solved things for the time  
being




Re: bgpd and multihop

2007-06-29 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 11:12:15AM +0100, Stuart Henderson wrote:
 On 2007/06/29 10:15, Jon Morby wrote:
  On 29 Jun 2007, at 08:47, Henning Brauer wrote:
 
  * Jon Morby [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-06-29 02:56]:
  I've just updated one of our routers from an end of May snapshot to a
  Jun 28th snapshot and have noticed that we seem to be having problems
  with our multihop sessions since the upgrade.
 
  errr... I'm inlcined to say impossible, since there weren't many
  changes at all in bgpd since then, and nothing that remotely touches
  nexthop verification. check your routes, something must be different.
  bgpctl sh nex on both machines might give insight
 
 
  I know ... whether it's just something that has now cropped up because it's 
  the first time these several of these boxes have been rebooted in months ...
 
  The addition of nexthop qualify via bgp seems to have overcome things .. 
  however the next hops should be learnt by ospf and are reachable (otherwise 
  the bgp sessions wouldn't actually be up, which they are)
 
 Are the nexthops in subnets where you receive the same exact prefixes
 by both BGP and OSPF? I have found ospfd sometimes doesn't overwrite
 routes installed by bgpd. That's not new though..
 

ospfd will remove bgpd routes if the same network is distributed via bgp
and ospf. This should work since some time now. So if you still can
reproduce it I would like to know how because that is a bug.

-- 
:wq Claudio



Re: bgpd and multihop

2007-06-29 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 10:15:14AM +0100, Jon Morby wrote:
 On 29 Jun 2007, at 08:47, Henning Brauer wrote:
 
 * Jon Morby [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-06-29 02:56]:
 I've just updated one of our routers from an end of May snapshot to a
 Jun 28th snapshot and have noticed that we seem to be having problems
 with our multihop sessions since the upgrade.
 
 errr... I'm inlcined to say impossible, since there weren't many
 changes at all in bgpd since then, and nothing that remotely touches
 nexthop verification. check your routes, something must be different.
 bgpctl sh nex on both machines might give insight
 
 
 I know ... whether it's just something that has now cropped up  
 because it's the first time these several of these boxes have been  
 rebooted in months ...
 
 The addition of nexthop qualify via bgp seems to have overcome  
 things .. however the next hops should be learnt by ospf and are  
 reachable (otherwise the bgp sessions wouldn't actually be up, which  
 they are)
 

There were some ospfd changes in the last month so it could be that you
actually have a ospfd regression and not a bgpd one.
Could you try to provide more information especially about the nexthop?

-- 
:wq Claudio