Re: developing openbsd?
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Tomas Vavrys wrote: > It would be great if anybody could share whole .vim/ && .vimrc. I > could write OpenBSD Vim C Programming manual once and for all. cp /usr/local/share/vim/vim72/vimrc_example.vim .vimrc
Re: developing openbsd?
I can imagine universal OpenBSD VIM settings for programming as a standard for local Vim programmers. It will make easier so many things. We should write down all ideas. Key task is to share experiences during programming with Vim. It looks like that many developers use cscope, ctags, taglist during programming. I use SnipMate for code completion at the moment, because c.vim is quite complex for me. You need to put big effort to get things work like you want to if you're not vim expert. I suggest to stick to the minimalism. We can collect most favourite code snippets and put them together in universal snipmate config with practical documentation for other useful settings. There is no need to read 100pages of manual to become efficient. From a practical point of view you always forget many things and use only a few key features because you don't have time to read the whole manual and test all things. I don't want this. We should put some effort to make it practical and easy from beginning. What do think about my suggestion? 2010/8/8 IC1igo Ortiz de Urbina : > I'd love to see such a document available. Depending on the scope of > this documentation effort, it could even be bundled as a package. > > On 8/8/10, Tomas Vavrys wrote: >> It would be great if anybody could share whole .vim/ && .vimrc. I >> could write OpenBSD Vim C Programming manual once and for all. >> >> 2010/8/8 Darrin Chandler : >>> On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 04:39:56PM +0200, Tomas Vavrys wrote: Does any developer use c.vim plugin? I can't get it working properly according to STYLE(9). I would appreciate your settings. What other Vim plugins do you use? >>> >>> I have this in ~/.vim/after/ftplugin/c.vim: >>> >>> set cinoptions=t0,+4,(4,u4,w1 >>> set shiftwidth=8 >>> set softtabstop=8 >>> let c_space_errors=1 >>> >>> That gets me somewhat close. Anyone want to share other ways or >>> refinements? >>> >>> -- >>> Darrin Chandler B B B B B B B B B B B | B Phoenix BSD User Group B | B MetaBUG >>> dwchand...@stilyagin.com B B | B http://phxbug.org/ B B B B B | >> B http://metabug.org/ >>> http://www.stilyagin.com/ B | B Daemons in the Desert B B | B Global BUG >> Federation
Re: developing openbsd?
I'd love to see such a document available. Depending on the scope of this documentation effort, it could even be bundled as a package. On 8/8/10, Tomas Vavrys wrote: > It would be great if anybody could share whole .vim/ && .vimrc. I > could write OpenBSD Vim C Programming manual once and for all. > > 2010/8/8 Darrin Chandler : >> On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 04:39:56PM +0200, Tomas Vavrys wrote: >>> Does any developer use c.vim plugin? I can't get it working properly >>> according to STYLE(9). I would appreciate your settings. What other >>> Vim plugins do you use? >> >> I have this in ~/.vim/after/ftplugin/c.vim: >> >> set cinoptions=t0,+4,(4,u4,w1 >> set shiftwidth=8 >> set softtabstop=8 >> let c_space_errors=1 >> >> That gets me somewhat close. Anyone want to share other ways or >> refinements? >> >> -- >> Darrin Chandler B B B B B B | B Phoenix BSD User Group B | B MetaBUG >> dwchand...@stilyagin.com B | B http://phxbug.org/ B B B | > B http://metabug.org/ >> http://www.stilyagin.com/ B | B Daemons in the Desert B | B Global BUG > Federation
Re: developing openbsd?
I'd hug you! On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 05:06:19PM +0200, Tomas Vavrys wrote: > It would be great if anybody could share whole .vim/ && .vimrc. I > could write OpenBSD Vim C Programming manual once and for all. > > 2010/8/8 Darrin Chandler : > > On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 04:39:56PM +0200, Tomas Vavrys wrote: > >> Does any developer use c.vim plugin? I can't get it working properly > >> according to STYLE(9). I would appreciate your settings. What other > >> Vim plugins do you use? > > > > I have this in ~/.vim/after/ftplugin/c.vim: > > > > set cinoptions=t0,+4,(4,u4,w1 > > set shiftwidth=8 > > set softtabstop=8 > > let c_space_errors=1 > > > > That gets me somewhat close. Anyone want to share other ways or > > refinements? > > > > -- > > Darrin Chandler B B B B B B | B Phoenix BSD User Group B | B MetaBUG > > dwchand...@stilyagin.com B | B http://phxbug.org/ B B B | > B http://metabug.org/ > > http://www.stilyagin.com/ B | B Daemons in the Desert B | B Global BUG > Federation
Re: developing openbsd?
It would be great if anybody could share whole .vim/ && .vimrc. I could write OpenBSD Vim C Programming manual once and for all. 2010/8/8 Darrin Chandler : > On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 04:39:56PM +0200, Tomas Vavrys wrote: >> Does any developer use c.vim plugin? I can't get it working properly >> according to STYLE(9). I would appreciate your settings. What other >> Vim plugins do you use? > > I have this in ~/.vim/after/ftplugin/c.vim: > > set cinoptions=t0,+4,(4,u4,w1 > set shiftwidth=8 > set softtabstop=8 > let c_space_errors=1 > > That gets me somewhat close. Anyone want to share other ways or > refinements? > > -- > Darrin Chandler B B B B B B | B Phoenix BSD User Group B | B MetaBUG > dwchand...@stilyagin.com B | B http://phxbug.org/ B B B | B http://metabug.org/ > http://www.stilyagin.com/ B | B Daemons in the Desert B | B Global BUG Federation
Re: developing openbsd?
On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 04:39:56PM +0200, Tomas Vavrys wrote: > Does any developer use c.vim plugin? I can't get it working properly > according to STYLE(9). I would appreciate your settings. What other > Vim plugins do you use? I have this in ~/.vim/after/ftplugin/c.vim: set cinoptions=t0,+4,(4,u4,w1 set shiftwidth=8 set softtabstop=8 let c_space_errors=1 That gets me somewhat close. Anyone want to share other ways or refinements? -- Darrin Chandler| Phoenix BSD User Group | MetaBUG dwchand...@stilyagin.com | http://phxbug.org/ | http://metabug.org/ http://www.stilyagin.com/ | Daemons in the Desert | Global BUG Federation
Re: developing openbsd?
Does any developer use c.vim plugin? I can't get it working properly according to STYLE(9). I would appreciate your settings. What other Vim plugins do you use?
Re: developing openbsd?
Ok, thanks all. Later. - Jay > Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 12:14:30 +0100 > From: vex...@gmail.com > To: jay.kr...@cornell.edu > CC: misc@openbsd.org > Subject: Re: developing openbsd? > > On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 08:23:03AM +, Jay K wrote: > > I've looked all over www.openbsd.org. > > Any sort of guide/projects for new wannabe developers? > > Find something missing and implement it. > > I find myself sshing to linux boxes to valgrind things, so how about a leak > checker for OpenBSD? And no.. not a valgrind port, somthing our own. > > -- > Best Regards > Edd Barrett > > http://www.theunixzoo.co.uk
Re: developing openbsd?
On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 08:23:03AM +, Jay K wrote: > I've looked all over www.openbsd.org. > Any sort of guide/projects for new wannabe developers? > (not new to programming) > Just the bug list? > Fix something & send diffs? > > - Jay We pride ourselves on good, useful man pages. Reading man pages reveals many interesting things. And occaisonal problems. A number of developers started by fixing/updating man pages. Sometimes the code is broken rather than the man page, and viola you on the water slide. Ken
Re: developing openbsd?
On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 08:23:03AM +, Jay K wrote: > I've looked all over www.openbsd.org. > Any sort of guide/projects for new wannabe developers? Find something missing and implement it. I find myself sshing to linux boxes to valgrind things, so how about a leak checker for OpenBSD? And no.. not a valgrind port, somthing our own. -- Best Regards Edd Barrett http://www.theunixzoo.co.uk
Re: developing openbsd?
On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 08:23:03AM +, Jay K wrote: > I've looked all over www.openbsd.org. > Any sort of guide/projects for new wannabe developers? > (not new to programming) man style > Just the bug list? That's a good start, probably. > Fix something & send diffs? As mentioned on these lists multiple times over the years, yes, that's what you should start doing. > > - Jay
Re: developing openbsd?
On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 08:23:03AM +, Jay K wrote: > I've looked all over www.openbsd.org. > Any sort of guide/projects for new wannabe developers? > (not new to programming) > Just the bug list? > Fix something & send diffs? If you're serious about this, just use OpenBSD intensively. After a few weeks/months, you'll notice things that will irritate you. The other thing you should do is read those mailing-lists and follow instructions. Each time we ask for patch testers. This is a good way to help and to get a feel as to how things work. It's not complicated really. Everyone smart enough to become a developer soon figures things out by himself.