Re: SATA RAID card suggestions?

2011-10-14 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2011-10-13, Christiano F. Haesbaert haesba...@haesbaert.org wrote:
 On 13 October 2011 17:45, Timothy Baldock t...@entropy.me.uk wrote:
 I'd recommend the Areca cards, they are expensive but worth the money IMO


 I see, and I agree, but have in mind I pay around 100% taxes :(.



How important is raid5? The simpler raid1 mpi(4) / mpii(4) cards
are much cheaper, and raid1 is easier to get your data out of when
the card blows up...

Don't get hung up on looking for a controller with the word sata
in the name, the sas controllers are generally fine with sata drives,
there are various HP/Dell/LSI SAS controllers that will work fine,
some of which are quite easily ebay'able.

Make sure you get cables, they don't always come with the card
(even new ones).



Re: SATA RAID card suggestions?

2011-10-14 Thread Christiano F. Haesbaert
On 14 October 2011 05:25, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote:
 On 2011-10-13, Christiano F. Haesbaert haesba...@haesbaert.org wrote:
 On 13 October 2011 17:45, Timothy Baldock t...@entropy.me.uk wrote:
 I'd recommend the Areca cards, they are expensive but worth the money IMO


 I see, and I agree, but have in mind I pay around 100% taxes :(.



 How important is raid5? The simpler raid1 mpi(4) / mpii(4) cards
 are much cheaper, and raid1 is easier to get your data out of when
 the card blows up...


Starting to get less important, I wanted to have a 4x1.5tb storage
using raid5, but with the money I'd spent I can get a cheaper raid1
and more disks, or just more disks and forget about raid.
The price I'd pay for an Areca gives me more 3x1.5tb disks.

 Don't get hung up on looking for a controller with the word sata
 in the name, the sas controllers are generally fine with sata drives,
 there are various HP/Dell/LSI SAS controllers that will work fine,
 some of which are quite easily ebay'able.

I had a look on the lsi megaraid 83XX, they're more affordable, I'll
see what I can get.

 Make sure you get cables, they don't always come with the card
 (even new ones).



Thanks



Re: SATA RAID card suggestions?

2011-10-13 Thread Christiano F. Haesbaert
On 10 October 2011 22:57, Richard Johnson rd...@river.com wrote:
 On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:50:45 -0700, Ryan Corder wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 02:16:47PM -0600, Richard Johnson wrote:
 I've had great success with the Areca ARC-1210.

   http://www.areca.com.tw/products/pcie.htm

 Wups, I was apparently too tired last night to find the Areca cards, though
 I could have sworn I'd studied the arc(4) man page.  That is, until I
 reviewed it again this evening after receiving your response.

 Thanks for getting me pointed in the right direction.

 Now to find one in stock.



Did you find another alternative ?
I like this areca cards, but they are way to expensive for me, if you
find a cheaper solution please let me know.
I need a pci-e raid 5 card.



Re: SATA RAID card suggestions?

2011-10-13 Thread Timothy Baldock
I'd recommend the Areca cards, they are expensive but worth the money IMO

On 13 Oct 2011, at 21:23, Christiano F. Haesbaert haesba...@haesbaert.org
wrote:

 On 10 October 2011 22:57, Richard Johnson rd...@river.com wrote:
 On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:50:45 -0700, Ryan Corder wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 02:16:47PM -0600, Richard Johnson wrote:
 I've had great success with the Areca ARC-1210.

  http://www.areca.com.tw/products/pcie.htm

 Wups, I was apparently too tired last night to find the Areca cards,
though
 I could have sworn I'd studied the arc(4) man page.  That is, until I
 reviewed it again this evening after receiving your response.

 Thanks for getting me pointed in the right direction.

 Now to find one in stock.



 Did you find another alternative ?
 I like this areca cards, but they are way to expensive for me, if you
 find a cheaper solution please let me know.
 I need a pci-e raid 5 card.



Re: SATA RAID card suggestions?

2011-10-13 Thread Christiano F. Haesbaert
On 13 October 2011 17:45, Timothy Baldock t...@entropy.me.uk wrote:
 I'd recommend the Areca cards, they are expensive but worth the money IMO


I see, and I agree, but have in mind I pay around 100% taxes :(.



SATA RAID card suggestions?

2011-10-10 Thread Richard Johnson
I'm looking to possibly use a SATA RAID card instead of softraid(4) on a
new amd64 PCIx or PCI express machine build.

I'm tired of rebooting into the bios for other machines with mfi(4).  So I
want to build something manageable via bio(4), bioctl(4), and maybe
sensorsd(8).  That'll either be softraid, or some kind of supported SATA
RAID card.

However, most of the card models listed in the man pages for ami(4),
ciss(4), ips(4), and arc(4) are older discontinued SCSI and PCI beasts.
ami(4) also is limited to 2TB logical volumes.

Given the whole go dark and produce driver blobs only trend in the RAID
controller business, I'm not getting my hopes up too much for a hardware
SATA RAID option, and will certainly be OK with softraid(4).

However, if you have any ideas, I'd appreciate suggestions about
manufacturers to look at for SATA RAID cards that might provide for drive
status and maintenance commands via bio(4) and bioctl(4) in OpenBSD.


Richard



Re: SATA RAID card suggestions?

2011-10-10 Thread Ryan Corder
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 02:16:47PM -0600, Richard Johnson wrote:
| I'm looking to possibly use a SATA RAID card instead of softraid(4) on a
| new amd64 PCIx or PCI express machine build.
|
| I'm tired of rebooting into the bios for other machines with mfi(4).  So I
| want to build something manageable via bio(4), bioctl(4), and maybe
| sensorsd(8).  That'll either be softraid, or some kind of supported SATA
| RAID card.
|
| However, most of the card models listed in the man pages for ami(4),
| ciss(4), ips(4), and arc(4) are older discontinued SCSI and PCI beasts.
| ami(4) also is limited to 2TB logical volumes.

I've had great success with the Areca ARC-1210.

  http://www.areca.com.tw/products/pcie.htm


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Re: SATA RAID card suggestions?

2011-10-10 Thread Richard Johnson
On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:50:45 -0700, Ryan Corder wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 02:16:47PM -0600, Richard Johnson wrote:
 I've had great success with the Areca ARC-1210.

   http://www.areca.com.tw/products/pcie.htm

Wups, I was apparently too tired last night to find the Areca cards, though
I could have sworn I'd studied the arc(4) man page.  That is, until I
reviewed it again this evening after receiving your response.

Thanks for getting me pointed in the right direction.

Now to find one in stock.


Richard