Re: Seagate ST3250310AS not recognized
- Original Message - On 03/26/14 16:59, Charlie Farinella wrote: I'm trying to install OpenBSD 5.4 on a Dell Vostro 400, it's several years old but not ancient. 4GB RAM, 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS hard drive. The installation goes normally until it tries to find the hard drive and then tells me no hard drive is available. I've wiped the drive (it had ESXi on it before), repartitioned it, unpartitioned it, installed Linux, installed FreeBSD all without problem, but no matter what I do to it, OpenBSD won't see it. I would really like to get this working so any suggestions or guidance is very much appreciated. First of all, your report sucks. Normally, I try to just ignore bad reports, even when I have a possible W.A.G., but I'm going to try something new... I'm going to say you owe the project a $50 donation if I'm right. And if I'm wrong, you get to buy the 5.5 CDs when they come out and say ha ha! you were WRONG! First of all, if you hooked the drive up properly and it is seen in the bios and all, it isn't a matter of the /drive/ not being recognized, or anything on the drive left over, there's something wrong with the handling of the drive by the interface. All that stuff that goes scrolling by the screen on boot? it's important. it's called the dmesg. Read it, it will tell you why things didn't work. You may well have to interpret things, but somewhere on your dmesg, the chip that is your SATA interface will show up, and right there, it will probably give you a good idea why it isn't acting like a disk interface. And while it looks like gibberish, it's actually fairly readable. My wild guess: you have an ahci interface (this is good), configured in the BIOS for RAID (this is bad). Dell shipped a lot of machines with one disk, with the interface configured in the BIOS as a RAID. This is really just a lame BIOS-assisted OS-based RAID system, like most cheap RAID options, but if the OS doesn't support the RAID idea and it is a multi-booting system, bad things can happen when the BIOS helps you by copying one drive over your other drive, so OpenBSD (and at least some Linux kernels, I've seen) won't touch the drive if it was in the unsupported RAID configuration mode. Nick. First: Thanks to all who replied, I appreciate people trying to help. Second: Nick was right and I am very appreciative that he took the time to help. I now know more than I knew before, and have a working system. :-) Third: Our company has been using OpenBSD since version 3.2, purchasing CD sets, t-shirts and mugs over the years, I'll be sure we kick in the $50.00 donation. Thank you again. --charlie -- Charles Farinella Systems Administrator Appropriate Solutions, Inc. 603-924-6079
Seagate ST3250310AS not recognized
I'm trying to install OpenBSD 5.4 on a Dell Vostro 400, it's several years old but not ancient. 4GB RAM, 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS hard drive. The installation goes normally until it tries to find the hard drive and then tells me no hard drive is available. I've wiped the drive (it had ESXi on it before), repartitioned it, unpartitioned it, installed Linux, installed FreeBSD all without problem, but no matter what I do to it, OpenBSD won't see it. I would really like to get this working so any suggestions or guidance is very much appreciated. Thanks, --charlie -- Charles Farinella Systems Administrator Appropriate Solutions, Inc. 603-924-6079
Re: Seagate ST3250310AS not recognized
http://www.openbsd.org/report.html On 26 March 2014 16:59, Charlie Farinella cfarine...@appropriatesolutions.com wrote: I'm trying to install OpenBSD 5.4 on a Dell Vostro 400, it's several years old but not ancient. 4GB RAM, 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS hard drive. The installation goes normally until it tries to find the hard drive and then tells me no hard drive is available. I've wiped the drive (it had ESXi on it before), repartitioned it, unpartitioned it, installed Linux, installed FreeBSD all without problem, but no matter what I do to it, OpenBSD won't see it. I would really like to get this working so any suggestions or guidance is very much appreciated. Thanks, --charlie -- Charles Farinella Systems Administrator Appropriate Solutions, Inc. 603-924-6079
Re: Seagate ST3250310AS not recognized
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014, Charlie Farinella wrote: I'm trying to install OpenBSD 5.4 on a Dell Vostro 400, it's several years old but not ancient. 4GB RAM, 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS hard drive. The installation goes normally until it tries to find the hard drive and then tells me no hard drive is available. Assuming it is recognized in the machine BIOS, .. you mmight have to install a DOS partition table first - it probably still has an ESX partition table, even after wiping. Lee
Re: Seagate ST3250310AS not recognized
Hi Charlie. Bit of a shot in the dark. what sata ports are on the motherboard? can you switch the ports the hard drive is connected to? i have a machine with a similar problem but things work if I connect the hard drive to the sata 2 port instead of the sata 3 port. On Mar 26, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Charlie Farinella cfarine...@appropriatesolutions.com wrote: I'm trying to install OpenBSD 5.4 on a Dell Vostro 400, it's several years old but not ancient. 4GB RAM, 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS hard drive. The installation goes normally until it tries to find the hard drive and then tells me no hard drive is available. I've wiped the drive (it had ESXi on it before), repartitioned it, unpartitioned it, installed Linux, installed FreeBSD all without problem, but no matter what I do to it, OpenBSD won't see it. I would really like to get this working so any suggestions or guidance is very much appreciated. Thanks, --charlie -- Charles Farinella Systems Administrator Appropriate Solutions, Inc. 603-924-6079
Re: Seagate ST3250310AS not recognized
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014, at 05:11 PM, L. V. Lammert wrote: On Wed, 26 Mar 2014, Charlie Farinella wrote: I'm trying to install OpenBSD 5.4 on a Dell Vostro 400, it's several years old but not ancient. 4GB RAM, 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS hard drive. The installation goes normally until it tries to find the hard drive and then tells me no hard drive is available. Assuming it is recognized in the machine BIOS, .. you mmight have to install a DOS partition table first - it probably still has an ESX partition table, even after wiping. On OpenBSD the drive itself should show up in the installer regardless of whatever garbage is in the partition table. For a Windows install, your advice would be spot-on, but OpenBSD's installer is much more intelligent than anything that came out of Redmond, WA, US. -- Shawn K. Quinn skqu...@rushpost.com
Re: Seagate ST3250310AS not recognized
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: On OpenBSD the drive itself should show up in the installer regardless of whatever garbage is in the partition table. For a Windows install, your advice would be spot-on, but OpenBSD's installer is much more intelligent than anything that came out of Redmond, WA, US. I would have thought so, but that is the only explanation that makes sense. Anyone ever built on an ESX drive? Lee
Re: Seagate ST3250310AS not recognized
On 03/26/14 16:59, Charlie Farinella wrote: I'm trying to install OpenBSD 5.4 on a Dell Vostro 400, it's several years old but not ancient. 4GB RAM, 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS hard drive. The installation goes normally until it tries to find the hard drive and then tells me no hard drive is available. I've wiped the drive (it had ESXi on it before), repartitioned it, unpartitioned it, installed Linux, installed FreeBSD all without problem, but no matter what I do to it, OpenBSD won't see it. I would really like to get this working so any suggestions or guidance is very much appreciated. First of all, your report sucks. Normally, I try to just ignore bad reports, even when I have a possible W.A.G., but I'm going to try something new... I'm going to say you owe the project a $50 donation if I'm right. And if I'm wrong, you get to buy the 5.5 CDs when they come out and say ha ha! you were WRONG! First of all, if you hooked the drive up properly and it is seen in the bios and all, it isn't a matter of the /drive/ not being recognized, or anything on the drive left over, there's something wrong with the handling of the drive by the interface. All that stuff that goes scrolling by the screen on boot? it's important. it's called the dmesg. Read it, it will tell you why things didn't work. You may well have to interpret things, but somewhere on your dmesg, the chip that is your SATA interface will show up, and right there, it will probably give you a good idea why it isn't acting like a disk interface. And while it looks like gibberish, it's actually fairly readable. My wild guess: you have an ahci interface (this is good), configured in the BIOS for RAID (this is bad). Dell shipped a lot of machines with one disk, with the interface configured in the BIOS as a RAID. This is really just a lame BIOS-assisted OS-based RAID system, like most cheap RAID options, but if the OS doesn't support the RAID idea and it is a multi-booting system, bad things can happen when the BIOS helps you by copying one drive over your other drive, so OpenBSD (and at least some Linux kernels, I've seen) won't touch the drive if it was in the unsupported RAID configuration mode. Nick.
Re: Seagate ST3250310AS not recognized
Everyone who gets useful tech support from this list should feel obligated to donate something to the project. Especially if a Dev took his time to help you; http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/~checkout~/ports/geo/openbsd-developers/files/OpenBSD On Wed, Mar 26, 2014, at 10:52 PM, Nick Holland wrote: On 03/26/14 16:59, Charlie Farinella wrote: I'm trying to install OpenBSD 5.4 on a Dell Vostro 400, it's several years old but not ancient. 4GB RAM, 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS hard drive. The installation goes normally until it tries to find the hard drive and then tells me no hard drive is available. I've wiped the drive (it had ESXi on it before), repartitioned it, unpartitioned it, installed Linux, installed FreeBSD all without problem, but no matter what I do to it, OpenBSD won't see it. I would really like to get this working so any suggestions or guidance is very much appreciated. First of all, your report sucks. Normally, I try to just ignore bad reports, even when I have a possible W.A.G., but I'm going to try something new... I'm going to say you owe the project a $50 donation if I'm right. And if I'm wrong, you get to buy the 5.5 CDs when they come out and say ha ha! you were WRONG! First of all, if you hooked the drive up properly and it is seen in the bios and all, it isn't a matter of the /drive/ not being recognized, or anything on the drive left over, there's something wrong with the handling of the drive by the interface. All that stuff that goes scrolling by the screen on boot? it's important. it's called the dmesg. Read it, it will tell you why things didn't work. You may well have to interpret things, but somewhere on your dmesg, the chip that is your SATA interface will show up, and right there, it will probably give you a good idea why it isn't acting like a disk interface. And while it looks like gibberish, it's actually fairly readable. My wild guess: you have an ahci interface (this is good), configured in the BIOS for RAID (this is bad). Dell shipped a lot of machines with one disk, with the interface configured in the BIOS as a RAID. This is really just a lame BIOS-assisted OS-based RAID system, like most cheap RAID options, but if the OS doesn't support the RAID idea and it is a multi-booting system, bad things can happen when the BIOS helps you by copying one drive over your other drive, so OpenBSD (and at least some Linux kernels, I've seen) won't touch the drive if it was in the unsupported RAID configuration mode. Nick.
