Re: Thinkpad X230t convertible and openbsd
Thanos Tsouanas wrote: > > FWIW, the "Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300" iwn(4) in my non-t X230 > > works just fine. That's the "3x3" card on their order site. > > Could you please check the exact model and FCC ID of that card? > > "Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300" card > (model: 633ANHMW, FCC ID: PD9633ANH) Where would I find this information? It's not on the invoice and there is no sticker. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber na...@mips.inka.de
Re: Thinkpad X230t convertible and openbsd
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 02:26:39PM +0200, Thanos Tsouanas wrote: > Christian Weisgerber wrote: > > FWIW, the "Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300" iwn(4) in my non-t X230 > > works just fine. That's the "3x3" card on their order site. > > Could you please check the exact model and FCC ID of that card? > > The (non-t) X230 that I bought came with the > "Intel Centrino Wireless-N 2200" card > (model: 2200BNHMW, FCC ID: PD92200BNHU) I've got a start of a driver for this in my tree. It can detect the card, upload the firmware, start the device up but presently has problems calibrating the RF crystal. I haven't had time to debug it further but maybe at the upcoming hackathon (doubtful though). -ml > which does not work on OpenBSD, so I bought the > "Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300" card > (model: 633ANHMW, FCC ID: PD9633ANH) > which I was hoping it to be in the whitelist of the X230. > However, it is not.. So, either the whitelist is different depending on > the configuration settings (so that they only whitelist the card you > bought it with), or it is a problem with the specific model of my 6300 card. > > Any info/ideas, appreciated.. thanks! > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Edd Barrett wrote: > > On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 01:28:05PM +0200, David Coppa wrote: > >> It depends if it is a serial wacom tablet or a usb one. > >> > >> See: > >> http://openbsd.7691.n7.nabble.com/X60-Tablet-Wacom-Atheros-5213-amp-others-td67571.html#a67575 > > > > Hmm, I am not sure to be honest. > > > > -- > > Best Regards > > Edd Barrett > > > > http://www.theunixzoo.co.uk > > > > > > -- > Thanos Tsouanas > http://perso.ens-lyon.fr/thanos.tsouanas/
Re: Thinkpad X230t convertible and openbsd
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 14:26, Thanos Tsouanas wrote: > Christian Weisgerber wrote: >> FWIW, the "Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300" iwn(4) in my non-t X230 >> works just fine. That's the "3x3" card on their order site. > > Could you please check the exact model and FCC ID of that card? > > The (non-t) X230 that I bought came with the > "Intel Centrino Wireless-N 2200" card > (model: 2200BNHMW, FCC ID: PD92200BNHU) > which does not work on OpenBSD, so I bought the > "Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300" card > (model: 633ANHMW, FCC ID: PD9633ANH) > which I was hoping it to be in the whitelist of the X230. > However, it is not.. So, either the whitelist is different depending on > the configuration settings (so that they only whitelist the card you > bought it with), or it is a problem with the specific model of my 6300 card. > > Any info/ideas, appreciated.. thanks! I don't know what those IDs are, but I specifically bought a 6300 from ebay that said it was for Lenovo laptops. It works.
Re: Thinkpad X230t convertible and openbsd
Sorry for the quick re-post, apparently the whitelist checks the FRU P/N, and this seems to be the full list: http://download.lenovo.com/parts/ThinkPad/x230_x230i_fru_bom_20130410.pdf So, when buying one for a thinkpad make sure its FRU is in that list. I got a "generic" one and it is not working.. See also: http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/X-Series-ThinkPad-Laptops/X230-1802-error-after-WLAN-card-upgrade/ta-p/867893 Hope that helps somebody.. On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Thanos Tsouanas wrote: > Christian Weisgerber wrote: >> FWIW, the "Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300" iwn(4) in my non-t X230 >> works just fine. That's the "3x3" card on their order site. > > Could you please check the exact model and FCC ID of that card? > > The (non-t) X230 that I bought came with the > "Intel Centrino Wireless-N 2200" card > (model: 2200BNHMW, FCC ID: PD92200BNHU) > which does not work on OpenBSD, so I bought the > "Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300" card > (model: 633ANHMW, FCC ID: PD9633ANH) > which I was hoping it to be in the whitelist of the X230. > However, it is not.. So, either the whitelist is different depending on > the configuration settings (so that they only whitelist the card you > bought it with), or it is a problem with the specific model of my 6300 card. > > Any info/ideas, appreciated.. thanks! > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Edd Barrett wrote: >> On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 01:28:05PM +0200, David Coppa wrote: >>> It depends if it is a serial wacom tablet or a usb one. >>> >>> See: >>> http://openbsd.7691.n7.nabble.com/X60-Tablet-Wacom-Atheros-5213-amp-others-td67571.html#a67575 >> >> Hmm, I am not sure to be honest. >> >> -- >> Best Regards >> Edd Barrett >> >> http://www.theunixzoo.co.uk >> > > > > -- > Thanos Tsouanas > http://perso.ens-lyon.fr/thanos.tsouanas/ -- Thanos Tsouanas http://perso.ens-lyon.fr/thanos.tsouanas/
Re: Thinkpad X230t convertible and openbsd
Christian Weisgerber wrote: > FWIW, the "Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300" iwn(4) in my non-t X230 > works just fine. That's the "3x3" card on their order site. Could you please check the exact model and FCC ID of that card? The (non-t) X230 that I bought came with the "Intel Centrino Wireless-N 2200" card (model: 2200BNHMW, FCC ID: PD92200BNHU) which does not work on OpenBSD, so I bought the "Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300" card (model: 633ANHMW, FCC ID: PD9633ANH) which I was hoping it to be in the whitelist of the X230. However, it is not.. So, either the whitelist is different depending on the configuration settings (so that they only whitelist the card you bought it with), or it is a problem with the specific model of my 6300 card. Any info/ideas, appreciated.. thanks! On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Edd Barrett wrote: > On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 01:28:05PM +0200, David Coppa wrote: >> It depends if it is a serial wacom tablet or a usb one. >> >> See: >> http://openbsd.7691.n7.nabble.com/X60-Tablet-Wacom-Atheros-5213-amp-others-td67571.html#a67575 > > Hmm, I am not sure to be honest. > > -- > Best Regards > Edd Barrett > > http://www.theunixzoo.co.uk > -- Thanos Tsouanas http://perso.ens-lyon.fr/thanos.tsouanas/
Re: Thinkpad X230t convertible and openbsd
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 01:28:05PM +0200, David Coppa wrote: > It depends if it is a serial wacom tablet or a usb one. > > See: > http://openbsd.7691.n7.nabble.com/X60-Tablet-Wacom-Atheros-5213-amp-others-td67571.html#a67575 Hmm, I am not sure to be honest. -- Best Regards Edd Barrett http://www.theunixzoo.co.uk
Re: Thinkpad X230t convertible and openbsd
Edd Barrett wrote: > It's not the availability of the firmware that bothers me about Intel > wireless. I have had laptops with iwi and iwn cards (thinkpads) and > I found that the firmware crashes frequently. I have always swapped > them out for ral, ath or urtwn. FWIW, the "Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300" iwn(4) in my non-t X230 works just fine. That's the "3x3" card on their order site. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber na...@mips.inka.de
Re: Thinkpad X230t convertible and openbsd
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 13:41, Stuart Henderson wrote: > AIUI very latest iwn don't work in OpenBSD yet, and a slightly older > generation (I have the 6205) don't scan properly but otherwise work > quite well. No idea about earlier ones. Depends on latest. The new low end centrino 1000 parts are trouble. I have a 6300, which as far as I know is still the latest, bestest, top of the line and it appears to work. My laptop came with a 2200, I bought the 6300 off ebay. Was about to say I don't know if scanning works, but I can test it. Nope, doesn't work, just blinks for a while. I never connect to unknown networks.
Re: Thinkpad X230t convertible and openbsd
On 2013-05-08, Edd Barrett wrote: > On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 08:22:17PM -0400, Ted Unangst wrote: >> On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 23:47, Edd Barrett wrote: >> >> > I see it has one of those useless intel wireless cards too. Can this be >> > swapped out easily? If not I can use my urtwn dongle. >> >> Depends on why you think it's useless. After the first boot, fw_update >> will get the firmware for it, and then it should work just fine. > > It's not the availability of the firmware that bothers me about Intel > wireless. I have had laptops with iwi and iwn cards (thinkpads) and > I found that the firmware crashes frequently. I have always swapped > them out for ral, ath or urtwn. AIUI very latest iwn don't work in OpenBSD yet, and a slightly older generation (I have the 6205) don't scan properly but otherwise work quite well. No idea about earlier ones. >> All Lenovo systems have a BIOS whitelist of permitted wireless cards, >> although for many laptop models that turns out to be only variants of >> iwn anyway. > > misc/tpwireless ;) tpwireless last worked in the X40/possibly X41 type generation. For current ones you need to flash a hacked BIOS, or sometimes it's possible to change the vendor/device ID of the wireless card to a supported one and modify appropriate drivers to match / not match.
Re: Thinkpad X230t convertible and openbsd
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Edd Barrett wrote: > On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 08:22:17PM -0400, Ted Unangst wrote: >> On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 23:47, Edd Barrett wrote: >> >> > I see it has one of those useless intel wireless cards too. Can this be >> > swapped out easily? If not I can use my urtwn dongle. >> >> Depends on why you think it's useless. After the first boot, fw_update >> will get the firmware for it, and then it should work just fine. > > It's not the availability of the firmware that bothers me about Intel > wireless. I have had laptops with iwi and iwn cards (thinkpads) and > I found that the firmware crashes frequently. I have always swapped > them out for ral, ath or urtwn. > >> All Lenovo systems have a BIOS whitelist of permitted wireless cards, >> although for many laptop models that turns out to be only variants of >> iwn anyway. > > misc/tpwireless ;) > > I am more interested in the touchscreen support at this stage. The X230t > has one of those pressure sensitive wacom screens. I see FreeBSD has a > Wacom driver, but we don't. Maybe you don't need a driver for the base > functionality... It depends if it is a serial wacom tablet or a usb one. See: http://openbsd.7691.n7.nabble.com/X60-Tablet-Wacom-Atheros-5213-amp-others-td67571.html#a67575 > -- > Best Regards > Edd Barrett Ciao, David
Re: Thinkpad X230t convertible and openbsd
On 2013 May 08 (Wed) at 11:07:31 +0100 (+0100), Edd Barrett wrote: :misc/tpwireless ;) does *not* work on the x230 and related newer thinkpads. -- The herd instinct among economists makes sheep look like independent thinkers.
Re: Thinkpad X230t convertible and openbsd
On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 08:22:17PM -0400, Ted Unangst wrote: > On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 23:47, Edd Barrett wrote: > > > I see it has one of those useless intel wireless cards too. Can this be > > swapped out easily? If not I can use my urtwn dongle. > > Depends on why you think it's useless. After the first boot, fw_update > will get the firmware for it, and then it should work just fine. It's not the availability of the firmware that bothers me about Intel wireless. I have had laptops with iwi and iwn cards (thinkpads) and I found that the firmware crashes frequently. I have always swapped them out for ral, ath or urtwn. > All Lenovo systems have a BIOS whitelist of permitted wireless cards, > although for many laptop models that turns out to be only variants of > iwn anyway. misc/tpwireless ;) I am more interested in the touchscreen support at this stage. The X230t has one of those pressure sensitive wacom screens. I see FreeBSD has a Wacom driver, but we don't. Maybe you don't need a driver for the base functionality... -- Best Regards Edd Barrett http://www.theunixzoo.co.uk
Re: Thinkpad X230t convertible and openbsd
On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 23:47, Edd Barrett wrote: > I see it has one of those useless intel wireless cards too. Can this be > swapped out easily? If not I can use my urtwn dongle. Depends on why you think it's useless. After the first boot, fw_update will get the firmware for it, and then it should work just fine. All Lenovo systems have a BIOS whitelist of permitted wireless cards, although for many laptop models that turns out to be only variants of iwn anyway.
Thinkpad X230t convertible and openbsd
Hi, I'm starting a new job and have the option to choose a new laptop. I read a lot of papers in PDF form and have been using print/xournal for anotations. Annotating with the mouse sucks a bit. I wonder if these convertible thinkpads are any good for this. Does anyone own this: http://shop.lenovo.com/gb/en/laptops/thinkpad/x-series/x230t/ Is the touchscreen supported? Does it work well? Is anything else unsupported? I see it has one of those useless intel wireless cards too. Can this be swapped out easily? If not I can use my urtwn dongle. Cheers -- Best Regards Edd Barrett http://www.theunixzoo.co.uk
