Re: WebHosting Management Software

2009-06-01 Thread Vadim Zhukov
On Friday 29 May 2009 05:24:33 Insan Praja SW wrote:
> Hi Misc@,
> I'm currently looking for some OpenBSD-friendly (OpenSource/Free)
> WebHosting Management software. My colleagues seem to find a hardtimes
> for this kind of software works with OpenBSD.
> Any clue and input appreciated.
> Thanks,

WebMin/UserMin _was_ in ports, you can try to take port from Attic and 
update. It has awful security track, though.

I think you can also set up cPanel, it's mostly Perl-based so not a big 
problem. But it'll require some discussion with its authors about 
compiling cPanel "kernel" for OpenBSD. AFAIK, you'll have success 
chances if you order more than one license from them. (And yes, it's a 
piece of very, very crap code too).

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Re: WebHosting Management Software

2009-05-30 Thread Insan Praja SW

Hi Misc@,
On Fri, 29 May 2009 12:40:04 +0700, Lars Nooden   
wrote:



Working with "web hosting" is easy.  Put the OpenAFS client on your web
team's macintoshes and then use it to access the directories hosted on
your OpenBSD web server:
http://www.openafs.org/macos.html



Nice.. I'll tell them about this

From there it is about the same access as having the files on your local
harddrive.

There are OpenAFS clients for linux too but see your distro's repository
for details.

The web boys decided to use debian and ISPCP for this cPanel-like/virtual  
hosting since it's considered secure and stable and off course, they got  
front protection from us.



Regards,
-Lars


Regards,
Insan



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Re: WebHosting Management Software

2009-05-28 Thread Lars Nooden
Working with "web hosting" is easy.  Put the OpenAFS client on your web
team's macintoshes and then use it to access the directories hosted on
your OpenBSD web server:
http://www.openafs.org/macos.html

>From there it is about the same access as having the files on your local
harddrive.

There are OpenAFS clients for linux too but see your distro's repository
for details.

Regards,
-Lars



Re: WebHosting Management Software

2009-05-28 Thread Chris Bennett

STeve Andre' wrote:

On Thursday 28 May 2009 21:24:33 Insan Praja SW wrote:
  

Hi Misc@,
I'm currently looking for some OpenBSD-friendly (OpenSource/Free)
WebHosting Management software. My colleagues seem to find a hardtimes for
this kind of software works with OpenBSD.
Any clue and input appreciated.
Thanks,



Insan,

I'm not trying to be snarky here, but I would suggest...  ssh.

Today I've been dealing with phpMyAdmin, trying to get the beast
up, and I believe I have it and am getting mysql up.  But had I not
had to fight phpMyAdmin,  I'd have been farther along today.

This tendency to use gui tools for things isn't good.  No one can
possibly say that their security increases by using them--you
add complexity, and that always gives rise to new possibilities
of trouble.

But the worse problem here is that by using some tool to do
things, you haven't learned whats going on under the hood.
Not really.

--STeve Andre'

  
I really have to agree with this, even if this isn't the answer you want 
to hear.
--Oh just saw your reply back --well make pretty buttons to go with 
proper command line responses that you would make, give them that proper 
walmart/mcdonalds feel, just keep them in the proper pasture!


Chris Bennett



Re: WebHosting Management Software

2009-05-28 Thread Insan Praja SW

On Fri, 29 May 2009 08:38:27 +0700, STeve Andre'  wrote:


On Thursday 28 May 2009 21:24:33 Insan Praja SW wrote:

Hi Misc@,
I'm currently looking for some OpenBSD-friendly (OpenSource/Free)
WebHosting Management software. My colleagues seem to find a hardtimes  
for

this kind of software works with OpenBSD.
Any clue and input appreciated.
Thanks,


Insan,


Steve,


I'm not trying to be snarky here, but I would suggest...  ssh.


That's exactly I suggested to those guys.. some chroot-ed accounts for  
sftp/ssh and etc..




Today I've been dealing with phpMyAdmin, trying to get the beast
up, and I believe I have it and am getting mysql up.  But had I not
had to fight phpMyAdmin,  I'd have been farther along today.

This tendency to use gui tools for things isn't good.  No one can
possibly say that their security increases by using them--you
add complexity, and that always gives rise to new possibilities
of trouble.


The GUI-thingies are meant to ease our users to manage their virtual  
domains, virtual mail boxes and etc.. And they don't do text-based  
configuration :), they are basically M$ users.




But the worse problem here is that by using some tool to do
things, you haven't learned whats going on under the hood.
Not really.



Agreed,


--STeve Andre'


Kind Regards,
Insan Praja SW,


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Re: WebHosting Management Software

2009-05-28 Thread STeve Andre'
On Thursday 28 May 2009 21:24:33 Insan Praja SW wrote:
> Hi Misc@,
> I'm currently looking for some OpenBSD-friendly (OpenSource/Free)
> WebHosting Management software. My colleagues seem to find a hardtimes for
> this kind of software works with OpenBSD.
> Any clue and input appreciated.
> Thanks,

Insan,

I'm not trying to be snarky here, but I would suggest...  ssh.

Today I've been dealing with phpMyAdmin, trying to get the beast
up, and I believe I have it and am getting mysql up.  But had I not
had to fight phpMyAdmin,  I'd have been farther along today.

This tendency to use gui tools for things isn't good.  No one can
possibly say that their security increases by using them--you
add complexity, and that always gives rise to new possibilities
of trouble.

But the worse problem here is that by using some tool to do
things, you haven't learned whats going on under the hood.
Not really.

--STeve Andre'



WebHosting Management Software

2009-05-28 Thread Insan Praja SW

Hi Misc@,
I'm currently looking for some OpenBSD-friendly (OpenSource/Free)  
WebHosting Management software. My colleagues seem to find a hardtimes for  
this kind of software works with OpenBSD.

Any clue and input appreciated.
Thanks,



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