Re: Why I Love Open Source - NSA helped with Windows 7 development

2009-11-20 Thread patrick keshishian
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Felipe Alfaro Solana
felipe.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Obiozor Okeke obiozorok...@yahoo.comwrote:

 From Network World:

 NSA helped with Windows 7 development
 Privacy expert voices 'backdoor' concerns, security researchers dismiss
 idea
 By Gregg Keizer , Computerworld , 11/18/2009


 Why would NSA need backdoors when they have a front-door via DHS, national
 security and things like that?

Same reason there exist unconstitutional congressional acts/bills that
allow for secret torture prisons, detention of persons without due
process, complete bypassing of fouth and sixth amendments, voiding of
the Posse Comitatus Act, etc. etc. ... naive voters like you are the
reason we are in this shithole right now.

--patrick



Re: Why I Love Open Source - NSA helped with Windows 7 development

2009-11-20 Thread Bret Lambert
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:19 AM, patrick keshishian pkesh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Same reason there exist unconstitutional congressional acts/bills that
 allow for secret torture prisons, detention of persons without due
 process, complete bypassing of fouth and sixth amendments, voiding of
 the Posse Comitatus Act, etc. etc. ... naive voters like you are the
 reason we are in this shithole right now.

You stay classy, misc@



Re: Why I Love Open Source - NSA helped with Windows 7 development

2009-11-20 Thread bsd...@gmail.com
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:19 AM, patrick keshishian pkesh...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Felipe Alfaro Solana
 felipe.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Obiozor Okeke 
 obiozorok...@yahoo.comwrote:

 From Network World:

 NSA helped with Windows 7 development
 Privacy expert voices 'backdoor' concerns, security researchers dismiss
 idea
 By Gregg Keizer , Computerworld , 11/18/2009


 Why would NSA need backdoors when they have a front-door via DHS, national
 security and things like that?

 Same reason there exist unconstitutional congressional acts/bills that
 allow for secret torture prisons, detention of persons without due
 process, complete bypassing of fouth and sixth amendments, voiding of
 the Posse Comitatus Act, etc. etc. ... naive voters like you are the
 reason we are in this shithole right now.

 --patrick



The NSA's mandate is to protect American computer systems from attack.
 It's perfectly reasonable to believe their contributions are honest
and legitimate.

Note that the NSA's work on DES, which was rumored to have been
backdoored by them, actually proved to strengthen it against
differential cryptanalysis.



Re: Why I Love Open Source - NSA helped with Windows 7 development

2009-11-20 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 03:31:30AM -0500, bsd...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:19 AM, patrick keshishian pkesh...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
  On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Felipe Alfaro Solana
  felipe.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Obiozor Okeke 
  obiozorok...@yahoo.comwrote:
 
  From Network World:
 
  NSA helped with Windows 7 development
  Privacy expert voices 'backdoor' concerns, security researchers dismiss
  idea
  By Gregg Keizer , Computerworld , 11/18/2009
 
 
  Why would NSA need backdoors when they have a front-door via DHS, national
  security and things like that?
 
  Same reason there exist unconstitutional congressional acts/bills that
  allow for secret torture prisons, detention of persons without due
  process, complete bypassing of fouth and sixth amendments, voiding of
  the Posse Comitatus Act, etc. etc. ... naive voters like you are the
  reason we are in this shithole right now.
 
  --patrick
 
 
 
 The NSA's mandate is to protect American computer systems from attack.
  It's perfectly reasonable to believe their contributions are honest
 and legitimate.
 
 Note that the NSA's work on DES, which was rumored to have been
 backdoored by them, actually proved to strengthen it against
 differential cryptanalysis.

It has indeed. But it remains unknown if it facilitated another
attack. Anyway, could you you all take your affairs to another forum?
They are her pretty off-topic.

-Otto



Re: Why I Love Open Source - NSA helped with Windows 7 development

2009-11-20 Thread Felipe Alfaro Solana
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:19 AM, patrick keshishian pkesh...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Felipe Alfaro Solana
 felipe.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Obiozor Okeke obiozorok...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  From Network World:
 
  NSA helped with Windows 7 development
  Privacy expert voices 'backdoor' concerns, security researchers dismiss
  idea
  By Gregg Keizer , Computerworld , 11/18/2009
 
 
  Why would NSA need backdoors when they have a front-door via DHS,
 national
  security and things like that?

 Same reason there exist unconstitutional congressional acts/bills that
 allow for secret torture prisons, detention of persons without due
 process, complete bypassing of fouth and sixth amendments, voiding of
 the Posse Comitatus Act, etc. etc. ... naive voters like you are the
 reason we are in this shithole right now.


I'm neither a US citizen nor a greencard holder, so I'm not a voter in the
US (still can be naive, and naiver voter in another country, though).



Why I Love Open Source - NSA helped with Windows 7 development

2009-11-19 Thread Obiozor Okeke
From Network World:

NSA helped with Windows 7 development
Privacy expert voices 'backdoor' concerns, security researchers dismiss idea
By Gregg Keizer , Computerworld , 11/18/2009 


This story appeared on Network World at
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/111809-nsa-helped-with-windows-7.html

http://www.stumbleupon.com/s/#1uLpIW/www.networkworld.com/news/2009/111809-nsa-helped-with-windows-7.html?source=NWWNLE_nlt_daily_am_2009-11-19/



Re: Why I Love Open Source - NSA helped with Windows 7 development

2009-11-19 Thread Bryan
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 16:59, Bryan bra...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 15:43, Obiozor Okeke obiozorok...@yahoo.com
wrote:
 From Network World:

 NSA helped with Windows 7 development
 Privacy expert voices 'backdoor' concerns, security researchers dismiss
idea
 By Gregg Keizer , Computerworld , 11/18/2009


 This story appeared on Network World at

http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/111809-nsa-helped-with-windows-7.html


http://www.stumbleupon.com/s/#1uLpIW/www.networkworld.com/news/2009/111809-ns
a-helped-with-windows-7.html?source=NWWNLE_nlt_daily_am_2009-11-19/



 SELinux was developed in cooperation with the NSA. B and OpenBSD did
 some development under the DARPA umbrella. I understand the hate,
 but the NSA doesn't need a back door when the front door is unlocked
 and you have a steak for the dog...



Re: Why I Love Open Source - NSA helped with Windows 7 development

2009-11-19 Thread Felipe Alfaro Solana
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Obiozor Okeke obiozorok...@yahoo.comwrote:

 From Network World:

 NSA helped with Windows 7 development
 Privacy expert voices 'backdoor' concerns, security researchers dismiss
 idea
 By Gregg Keizer , Computerworld , 11/18/2009


Why would NSA need backdoors when they have a front-door via DHS, national
security and things like that?


 This story appeared on Network World at
 http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/111809-nsa-helped-with-windows-7.html


 http://www.stumbleupon.com/s/#1uLpIW/www.networkworld.com/news/2009/111809-nsa-helped-with-windows-7.html?source=NWWNLE_nlt_daily_am_2009-11-19/




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