Re: ath5k license revised

2007-09-03 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
"Constantine A. Murenin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> In this whole discussion, I really like the following quote from a
> response to Luis' email regarding SFLC involvement...

At first blush it looks to me like the SFLC at least must have
emphasized that the originators' wishes are to be respected.  By
volume at least most of the public discussion has been from and
between people who have not themselves contributed code.  It remains
to be seen if the (apparently SFLC recommended) commit referenced
upthread is actually acceptable to the originators involved.

> Al Viro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>   "if you have to rely on SFLC for licensing decisions...  Ouch."
>
> http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/9/1/222
>
> Yes.  "Ouch."

At least some degree of agreement between the two camps then. :)

I've kept repeating over the years that license issues revolve for a
large part around having a measure of basic respect for other people,
specifically those who make useful code for others to use.

Episodes like these are tiring at least (distracting from other
important task for me at least) and to some extent painful, but if
this one leads to an SFLC statement saying "respecting the wishes of
those who use other licenses than GPL is essential" or words to that
effect, it may actually end up doing some good for all of us.

-- 
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Re: ath5k license revised

2007-09-03 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 03/09/07, Peter N. M. Hansteen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Gregg Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > http://marc.info/?l=linux-wireless&m=118857712529898&w=2
>
> IANAL (nor a party to this so ICBW), but AFAICS the SFLC told them to
> DTRT.

In this whole discussion, I really like the following quote from a
response to Luis' email regarding SFLC involvement...

Al Viro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

"if you have to rely on SFLC for licensing decisions...  Ouch."

http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/9/1/222

Yes.  "Ouch."

C.



Re: ath5k license revised

2007-09-03 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 03/09/07, Gregg Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://marc.info/?l=linux-wireless&m=118857712529898&w=2

This is kinda old news:
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=118866496716802&w=2

The interesting thing, though, is to notice that:

1. Jiri, the original author of the infamous GPLv2 patch, changed his
GPLv2 to BSD (thanks!)

2. Nick, originally a good guy, changed his BSD and BSD/GPLv2 to GPLv2 only.

WTF? Why can't they both agree to use BSD, so that the modifications
remain compatible with what it was forked from -- Reyk's ath(4) HAL in
OpenBSD.

P.S. Also, see Reyk's response:
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=118881908304473&w=2

Constantine.



Re: ath5k license revised

2007-09-03 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
"Gregg Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> http://marc.info/?l=linux-wireless&m=118857712529898&w=2

IANAL (nor a party to this so ICBW), but AFAICS the SFLC told them to
DTRT.

-- 
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ath5k license revised

2007-09-03 Thread Gregg Reynolds
http://marc.info/?l=linux-wireless&m=118857712529898&w=2