Re: dual DVI graphics card

2005-10-08 Thread Shane J Pearson

Hi Aaron,

On 07/10/2005, at 7:37 AM, Aaron Glenn wrote:


I wasn't clear enough in my original post. I'm looking to run
1920x1200 on two DVI monitors; and I'd like some sort of OpenGL
hardware acceleration support, however minor. None of the ATi chipsets
currently support 1920x1200 on two DVI monitors.


My Sony Laptop has an ATI Radeon X600 Mobility which has a 1920x1200 LCD
and a DVI on the docking station which I can seemingly set to 1920x1200
(even all the way up to 2048x1536).

I would have thought the internal connection to the LCD would be
equivalent to DVI at least?


Shane



Re: dual DVI graphics card

2005-10-07 Thread Sam Vaughan

On 07/10/2005, at 11:50 AM, Martin Schrvder wrote:



One DVI port does up to 1600x1200, so you need four DVI (two
dual-link) ports.



I beg to differ.  I'm currently using a 1920x1200 monitor at native
resolution connected to the DVI port of a three year old Radeon 7500
that certainly isn't dual link.

For an Apple 30 Cinema display at 2560x1600 then yeah, you'd need dual
link per display, but that's a completely different class of pixel real
estate!



Re: dual DVI graphics card

2005-10-06 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Thu, 6 Oct 2005, Matthew Weigel wrote:

 In theory, you should be able to answer your question simply by me
 mentioning that radeon(4) supports dual displays on video cards still
 available through retail channels.

 Finally, I can vouch for dual displays working fine on Radeon cards,
 although I use a card with one DVI and one VGA output.

PMFJI, but is there some sort of desktop 'manager' tool like Hydra to
control the desktop space?

Lee


  Leland V. Lammert[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chief Scientist Omnitec Corporation
 Network/Internet Consultants   www.omnitec.net




Re: dual DVI graphics card

2005-10-06 Thread Matthew Weigel
Aaron Glenn wrote:
 On 10/6/05, Matthew Weigel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In theory, you should be able to answer your question simply by me
 mentioning that radeon(4) supports dual displays on video cards still
 available through retail channels.

 I wasn't clear enough in my original post. I'm looking to run
 1920x1200 on two DVI monitors; and I'd like some sort of OpenGL
 hardware acceleration support, however minor. None of the ATi chipsets
 currently support 1920x1200 on two DVI monitors.

It appears I was correct in guessing that simply mentioning that radeon(4)
is where to look would not give you the information you need in order to
arrive at the fact that the Radeon 9600 drives the products for which you
are searching.  Given the quality and tone of your response, I will avoid
correcting you and encourage you to buy what ever it is that you can find
that can meet your needs.

Given the accuracy and completeness of the research you've done so far,
I'm confident that something amusing will result.
-- 
 Matthew Weigel
 hacker
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: dual DVI graphics card

2005-10-06 Thread Aaron Glenn
On 10/6/05, Matthew Weigel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It appears I was correct in guessing that simply mentioning that radeon(4)
 is where to look would not give you the information you need in order to
 arrive at the fact that the Radeon 9600 drives the products for which you
 are searching.  Given the quality and tone of your response, I will avoid
 correcting you and encourage you to buy what ever it is that you can find
 that can meet your needs.

Perhaps you could drop the cocky attitude and do something productive
with your catty prose? Thanks for the radeon(4) reference; I'm sure if
any of the Radeon chips did 1920x1200 on two DVI it would have been
very helpful.

You see, just because the box or spec sheet says supports 1920x1200
doesn't mean the GPU will do 1920x1200 on both DVI ports. Infact,
colorgraphics, which specializes in multi-display graphics cards, and
uses the ATi Radeon GPU, notes that you get a max of 1600x1200 when
using both DVI ports.

So with that helpful lesson out of the way, you can shut your trap
about radeon(4) and your patently stupid recommendations.

 Given the accuracy and completeness of the research you've done so far,
 I'm confident that something amusing will result.

I'm confident you either lack basic reading comprehension skills, or
talk out of your ass on a regular basis...or maybe both? Either way
you can keep your future quality reponses right where they came from,
your ass.



Re: dual DVI graphics card

2005-10-06 Thread Stuart Henderson

experiences setting it up? I've got my eye on the Matrox Millennium
P750 card, but I can't find anything on any kind of support for
OpenBSD (I'm not looking to run Linux, Solaris, or even FreeBSD all of
which seem to have some sort of support).


Their old cards used to be a good choice for open-source, but 
Parhelia-based cards are too proprietary. Pity.




Re: dual DVI graphics card

2005-10-06 Thread Aaron Glenn
On 10/6/05, Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Their old cards used to be a good choice for open-source, but
 Parhelia-based cards are too proprietary. Pity.


I had used Matrox cards exclusively up until Parhelia was released
however long ago. I think my Millenium II card is still chugging along
in a closet somewhere. From what I can tell on Matrox's site, the
Parhelia and the Millenium P750 are two distinct chipsets.

aaron.glenn



Re: dual DVI graphics card

2005-10-06 Thread Stuart Henderson

--On 06 October 2005 16:11 -0700, Aaron Glenn wrote:


I had used Matrox cards exclusively up until Parhelia was released
however long ago. I think my Millenium II card is still chugging along
in a closet somewhere. From what I can tell on Matrox's site, the
Parhelia and the Millenium P750 are two distinct chipsets.


Millenium Pxxx and Parhelia share drivers. I bought a P650 before 
realising this, the only way I found to make it run with X is by 
extracting the relevant file from their closed-source i386 linux driver 
(they're not os-specific). It sits in a windows box now.




Re: dual DVI graphics card

2005-10-06 Thread Matthew Weigel
Aaron Glenn wrote:

 Perhaps you could drop the cocky attitude and do something productive
 with your catty prose?

No, actually - the catty prose itself is unproductive.  But you worked so
hard to eliminate the productive options, I didn't want to give you
anything but what you wanted.

 Thanks for the radeon(4) reference; I'm sure if
 any of the Radeon chips did 1920x1200 on two DVI it would have been
 very helpful.

I'm no good at not helping; if you don't believe me, go take a look at the
video cards that Apple sells.  They specifically say their 9600 supports
two 1920x1200 displays over DVI.  If you'd like to wager that the 9600
that ATI sells specifically for Macs does less than the OEM 9600 that
Apple sells, I'll give you good odds.
-- 
 Matthew Weigel
 hacker
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: dual DVI graphics card

2005-10-06 Thread Martin Schröder
On 2005-10-06 14:37:03 -0700, Aaron Glenn wrote:
 I wasn't clear enough in my original post. I'm looking to run
 1920x1200 on two DVI monitors; and I'd like some sort of OpenGL
 hardware acceleration support, however minor. None of the ATi chipsets
 currently support 1920x1200 on two DVI monitors.

One DVI port does up to 1600x1200, so you need four DVI (two
dual-link) ports.

Best
Martin
-- 
http://www.tm.oneiros.de