Re: faq5 and release.8 documentation adding wobj group

2017-05-21 Thread harold felton 
Hello TheoB.,

Thank you for the detailed explanations.

I normally only read misc-messages in daily-digest,
so was unable to acknowledge your response when
I realized my error was already fixed online.  oops.

Also, thank you for your care/dedication to OpenBSD.

Sincerely, harold felton.

On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 6:23 PM, harold felton 
wrote:

> nevermind - sorry for the noise...
>
> Miscellaneous-section...  oops...  h.
>
>

Re: faq5 and release.8 documentation adding wobj group

2017-05-20 Thread harold felton 
nevermind - sorry for the noise...

Miscellaneous-section...  oops...  h.

On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 7:47 AM, harold felton 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am unsure whether this has already been addressed.
> the documentation at faq5 and release.8 are slightly
> outdated.  For a non-root user, there should be another
> step besides only adding them to the wsrc-group.
>
> Typically, this non-root user is already in group-wheel.
> The instructions currently mention that they should be
> in group-wsrc, but they should also be in group-wobj.
>
> The relevant command is simply:
>
> # *user mod -G wobj exampleuser*
>
> as seen at https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Bld
> which then references release.8 step-2.
>
> I do not know where/how to check for documentation
> that might be changing under -current.
>
> Sincerely, hfelton
>
> ps - I have followed the mailing-lists for awhile and
> would reference the following researched items:
> message to source-changes from 20170412 id:
> aca921a291cf2...@openbsd.org
> similar, but unrelated-bug from 20170116 at:
> http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-bugs=148459605014161=2
>
>


-- 
harold at hfelton.com

Re: faq5 and release.8 documentation adding wobj group

2017-05-20 Thread Theo Buehler 
On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 07:47:59AM +0800, harold felton wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am unsure whether this has already been addressed.
> the documentation at faq5 and release.8 are slightly
> outdated.  For a non-root user, there should be another
> step besides only adding them to the wsrc-group.

This is one way that you can avoid running cvs as root.

> Typically, this non-root user is already in group-wheel.
> The instructions currently mention that they should be
> in group-wsrc, but they should also be in group-wobj.

This is not needed for 'make build' or 'make release', therefore I chose
not to mention it in the "building from source" section of faq5.

I did mention why that might be a useful thing to do here:
https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Miscellanea
and also on upgrade61.html.

> The relevant command is simply:
> 
> # *user mod -G wobj exampleuser*
> 
> as seen at https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Bld
> which then references release.8 step-2.
> 
> I do not know where/how to check for documentation
> that might be changing under -current.

The faq is updated within about half an hour after a commit is made. For
-current manuals, you can use http://man.openbsd.org

> Sincerely, hfelton
> 
> ps - I have followed the mailing-lists for awhile and
> would reference the following researched items:
> message to source-changes from 20170412 id:
> aca921a291cf2...@openbsd.org

This is when I added https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Miscellanea
mentioned above.

> similar, but unrelated-bug from 20170116 at:
> http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-bugs=148459605014161=2

This was fixed a week or two after that conversation:
https://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/share/mk/bsd.obj.mk#rev1.17

faq5 and release.8 documentation adding wobj group

2017-05-20 Thread harold felton 
Hello,

I am unsure whether this has already been addressed.
the documentation at faq5 and release.8 are slightly
outdated.  For a non-root user, there should be another
step besides only adding them to the wsrc-group.

Typically, this non-root user is already in group-wheel.
The instructions currently mention that they should be
in group-wsrc, but they should also be in group-wobj.

The relevant command is simply:

# *user mod -G wobj exampleuser*

as seen at https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Bld
which then references release.8 step-2.

I do not know where/how to check for documentation
that might be changing under -current.

Sincerely, hfelton

ps - I have followed the mailing-lists for awhile and
would reference the following researched items:
message to source-changes from 20170412 id:
aca921a291cf2...@openbsd.org
similar, but unrelated-bug from 20170116 at:
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-bugs=148459605014161=2