Re: hardware suggestion: off topic (probably)
On Tue, November 6, 2012 22:31, Jiri B wrote: > On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 02:28:49PM -0200, Friedrich Locke wrote: >> Dear list members, >> >> I have setted up a web server in my working environment and i was asked to >> install webalizer. Now my boss asked me to install a tool that "looks" at >> webalizer stats files and suggest a hardware capacity for that workload >> reported by webalizer. >> >> I dont know what to tell him. Why do you think he asked me that ? > > If I understood correctly he wants a trend tool, it means to know when > you should buy new disks/storage/whatever based on resources utilization > projection trend... > > No idea which OSS app can do that. > > jirib > > Some monitoring tools like munin, I think.
Re: hardware suggestion: off topic (probably)
On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 02:28:49PM -0200, Friedrich Locke wrote: > Dear list members, > > I have setted up a web server in my working environment and i was asked to > install webalizer. Now my boss asked me to install a tool that "looks" at > webalizer stats files and suggest a hardware capacity for that workload > reported by webalizer. > > I dont know what to tell him. Why do you think he asked me that ? If I understood correctly he wants a trend tool, it means to know when you should buy new disks/storage/whatever based on resources utilization projection trend... No idea which OSS app can do that. jirib
Re: hardware suggestion: off topic (probably)
On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Friedrich Locke wrote: > Dear list members, > > I have setted up a web server in my working environment and i was asked to > install webalizer. Now my boss asked me to install a tool that "looks" at > webalizer stats files and suggest a hardware capacity for that workload > reported by webalizer. > > I dont know what to tell him. Why do you think he asked me that ? For example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webalizer#Criticism and you will be able to find a lot of others. That's for your boss :-) You can continue here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_web_analytics_software , but webalizer and piwik (or even more) are available in OpenBSD ports/packages. Real question is what your boss wants to achieve and if he knows why he needs something like that at all as that is mostly biggest issue. That's however your job to prove that solution you implemented out of your ideas (not one you were forced to do by higher management) is working as expected and as company needs. Then it's easy and you can offer alternatives and show results from that. If your boss is looking just for some stick then best is to simply implement it and clearly stating why it will not help (after you test yourself) and that he will be responsible for false results out of that (they are mostly scared to be responsible for something). BTW here on misc@ are people which are using integrated Apache 1.3.x with thousands of clients on not so modern HW so even virtual machine can keep that pretty good (if you are not on some crippled virtualization - which is not these days? :-)). It just leads to thing that even tools in base system like pflow,systat,pfctl,netstat,iostat,vmstat,top,sar and some others you can measure pretty well if your webserver really needs physical HW.
Re: hardware suggestion: off topic (probably)
On 11/6/2012 8:28 AM, Friedrich Locke wrote: Dear list members, I have setted up a web server in my working environment and i was asked to install webalizer. Now my boss asked me to install a tool that "looks" at webalizer stats files and suggest a hardware capacity for that workload reported by webalizer. I dont know what to tell him. Why do you think he asked me that ? To each their own on the exact value of webalizer and similar stuff (awstats, Analytics, etc), but I would say a hardware capacity decision influenced chiefly by webalizer stats is a poorly informed decision. Anyway I do not know of a product that does something like this off of the top of my head, mostly because if I were to be evaluating my hardware needs, I'd look at about a dozen other metrics first.
hardware suggestion: off topic (probably)
Dear list members, I have setted up a web server in my working environment and i was asked to install webalizer. Now my boss asked me to install a tool that "looks" at webalizer stats files and suggest a hardware capacity for that workload reported by webalizer. I dont know what to tell him. Why do you think he asked me that ?
