Re: how to view Ethernet frame CRC errors

2007-04-10 Thread Dan Farrell
Thank-you very much!

danno

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Claudio Jeker
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 12:32 PM
To: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: how to view Ethernet frame CRC errors

On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 11:39:18AM -0400, Dan Farrell wrote:
> Another shot--- Anyone know how to see L2 CRC errors on an Ethernet
> interface?
>

The best thing you get is Ierrs and Colls from netstat -i output. This
should include the CRC errors. OpenBSD does not account L2 CRC errors in
a
seprarate counter -- on some cards it is hard to get that info.

Almost all Ierrs are HW related (DMA errors, CRC errors, short frames,
oversized frames, jadda jadda jadda).
For duplex missmatch issues the input error counter and the collision
counter are good indicators.
--
:wq Claudio


> Thanks,
>
> danno
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Dan Farrell
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 11:02 AM
> To: misc@openbsd.org
> Subject: how to view Ethernet frame CRC errors
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm looking for a way to view L2 frame CRC errors on an interface.
I've
> scoured netstat, but found nothing (from what I've known of it it's
all
> Layer 3 anyway).
>
> I googled and came up rather empty ("FCS error openBSD", "ethernet
frame
> CRC errors openbsd", etc.) .
>
> The purpose for this is to deduce duplex-mismatch problems on Fast
> Ethernet interfaces where you only have visibility/control over one
side
> of the Ethernet connection.
>
> If there is no way to specifically view counters like this are there
> other counters (or a combination of counters) I can look to that would
> definitively show a duplex-mismatch situation (as in no
false-positives)
> ? I know there are error counters in "netstat -i" but are those always
> going to mean there is a duplex mismatch problem (it just seems
there's
> a lack of detail there so those errors could result from a variety of
> issues)? Is there anything to be gleaned from a "netstat -s" to show
> this also?
>
>
> I appreciate any suggestions,
>
>
> Dan Farrell
> Applied Innovations Corp.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: how to view Ethernet frame CRC errors

2007-04-10 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 11:39:18AM -0400, Dan Farrell wrote:
> Another shot--- Anyone know how to see L2 CRC errors on an Ethernet
> interface?
> 

The best thing you get is Ierrs and Colls from netstat -i output. This
should include the CRC errors. OpenBSD does not account L2 CRC errors in a
seprarate counter -- on some cards it is hard to get that info.

Almost all Ierrs are HW related (DMA errors, CRC errors, short frames,
oversized frames, jadda jadda jadda).
For duplex missmatch issues the input error counter and the collision
counter are good indicators.
-- 
:wq Claudio


> Thanks,
> 
> danno
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Dan Farrell
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 11:02 AM
> To: misc@openbsd.org
> Subject: how to view Ethernet frame CRC errors
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I'm looking for a way to view L2 frame CRC errors on an interface. I've
> scoured netstat, but found nothing (from what I've known of it it's all
> Layer 3 anyway).
> 
> I googled and came up rather empty ("FCS error openBSD", "ethernet frame
> CRC errors openbsd", etc.) .
> 
> The purpose for this is to deduce duplex-mismatch problems on Fast
> Ethernet interfaces where you only have visibility/control over one side
> of the Ethernet connection.
> 
> If there is no way to specifically view counters like this are there
> other counters (or a combination of counters) I can look to that would
> definitively show a duplex-mismatch situation (as in no false-positives)
> ? I know there are error counters in "netstat -i" but are those always
> going to mean there is a duplex mismatch problem (it just seems there's
> a lack of detail there so those errors could result from a variety of
> issues)? Is there anything to be gleaned from a "netstat -s" to show
> this also?
> 
> 
> I appreciate any suggestions,
> 
> 
> Dan Farrell
> Applied Innovations Corp.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: how to view Ethernet frame CRC errors

2007-04-10 Thread Dan Farrell
If I'm not mistaken ethtool is not written for OBSD.

danno

-Original Message-
From: Alex Thurlow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 11:59 AM
To: Dan Farrell
Cc: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: how to view Ethernet frame CRC errors

I haven't used it on OpenBSD, but on linux, ethtool can give you a good
bit of information on an ethernet connection.

-Alex

Dan Farrell wrote:
> Another shot--- Anyone know how to see L2 CRC errors on an Ethernet
> interface?
>
> Thanks,
>
> danno
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Dan Farrell
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 11:02 AM
> To: misc@openbsd.org
> Subject: how to view Ethernet frame CRC errors
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm looking for a way to view L2 frame CRC errors on an interface.
I've
> scoured netstat, but found nothing (from what I've known of it it's
all
> Layer 3 anyway).
>
> I googled and came up rather empty ("FCS error openBSD", "ethernet
frame
> CRC errors openbsd", etc.) .
>
> The purpose for this is to deduce duplex-mismatch problems on Fast
> Ethernet interfaces where you only have visibility/control over one
side
> of the Ethernet connection.
>
> If there is no way to specifically view counters like this are there
> other counters (or a combination of counters) I can look to that would
> definitively show a duplex-mismatch situation (as in no
false-positives)
> ? I know there are error counters in "netstat -i" but are those always
> going to mean there is a duplex mismatch problem (it just seems
there's
> a lack of detail there so those errors could result from a variety of
> issues)? Is there anything to be gleaned from a "netstat -s" to show
> this also?
>
>
> I appreciate any suggestions,
>
>
> Dan Farrell
> Applied Innovations Corp.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: how to view Ethernet frame CRC errors

2007-04-10 Thread Alex Thurlow
I haven't used it on OpenBSD, but on linux, ethtool can give you a good 
bit of information on an ethernet connection. 


   -Alex

Dan Farrell wrote:

Another shot--- Anyone know how to see L2 CRC errors on an Ethernet
interface?

Thanks,

danno

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Dan Farrell
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 11:02 AM
To: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: how to view Ethernet frame CRC errors

Hello,

I'm looking for a way to view L2 frame CRC errors on an interface. I've
scoured netstat, but found nothing (from what I've known of it it's all
Layer 3 anyway).

I googled and came up rather empty ("FCS error openBSD", "ethernet frame
CRC errors openbsd", etc.) .

The purpose for this is to deduce duplex-mismatch problems on Fast
Ethernet interfaces where you only have visibility/control over one side
of the Ethernet connection.

If there is no way to specifically view counters like this are there
other counters (or a combination of counters) I can look to that would
definitively show a duplex-mismatch situation (as in no false-positives)
? I know there are error counters in "netstat -i" but are those always
going to mean there is a duplex mismatch problem (it just seems there's
a lack of detail there so those errors could result from a variety of
issues)? Is there anything to be gleaned from a "netstat -s" to show
this also?


I appreciate any suggestions,


Dan Farrell
Applied Innovations Corp.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: how to view Ethernet frame CRC errors

2007-04-10 Thread Dan Farrell
Another shot--- Anyone know how to see L2 CRC errors on an Ethernet
interface?

Thanks,

danno

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Dan Farrell
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 11:02 AM
To: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: how to view Ethernet frame CRC errors

Hello,

I'm looking for a way to view L2 frame CRC errors on an interface. I've
scoured netstat, but found nothing (from what I've known of it it's all
Layer 3 anyway).

I googled and came up rather empty ("FCS error openBSD", "ethernet frame
CRC errors openbsd", etc.) .

The purpose for this is to deduce duplex-mismatch problems on Fast
Ethernet interfaces where you only have visibility/control over one side
of the Ethernet connection.

If there is no way to specifically view counters like this are there
other counters (or a combination of counters) I can look to that would
definitively show a duplex-mismatch situation (as in no false-positives)
? I know there are error counters in "netstat -i" but are those always
going to mean there is a duplex mismatch problem (it just seems there's
a lack of detail there so those errors could result from a variety of
issues)? Is there anything to be gleaned from a "netstat -s" to show
this also?


I appreciate any suggestions,


Dan Farrell
Applied Innovations Corp.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



how to view Ethernet frame CRC errors

2007-04-09 Thread Dan Farrell
Hello,

I'm looking for a way to view L2 frame CRC errors on an interface. I've
scoured netstat, but found nothing (from what I've known of it it's all
Layer 3 anyway).

I googled and came up rather empty ("FCS error openBSD", "ethernet frame
CRC errors openbsd", etc.) .

The purpose for this is to deduce duplex-mismatch problems on Fast
Ethernet interfaces where you only have visibility/control over one side
of the Ethernet connection.

If there is no way to specifically view counters like this are there
other counters (or a combination of counters) I can look to that would
definitively show a duplex-mismatch situation (as in no false-positives)
? I know there are error counters in "netstat -i" but are those always
going to mean there is a duplex mismatch problem (it just seems there's
a lack of detail there so those errors could result from a variety of
issues)? Is there anything to be gleaned from a "netstat -s" to show
this also?


I appreciate any suggestions,


Dan Farrell
Applied Innovations Corp.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]