Re: ss20's wanted for ports builds
On 7/19/12 11:15 AM, Theo de Raadt wrote: On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 08:45:30PM +0200, [BG-Consulting] Elmar Bschorer wrote: What do you mean with ss20? Actually a good question. At least for those old enough to remember the Soviet era SS-20 intermediate-range ballistic nucelar missiles. I'd like one of those too. OK, admission of nerdiness: All SS-20's were eliminated under the Intermediate and Shorter-range Nuclear Forces Treaty (INF), beginning in the late 80's and winding up during the early 90's, with final close-out inspections of all inspectable sites during the mid 90's, approximately at the same time as the START I Treaty kicked off. I have a decorative serving tray made from the metal of an eliminated ss-20. Off...topic? -Rob Payne
Re: ss20's wanted for ports builds
On 07/29/12 16:18, Rob Payne wrote: On 7/19/12 11:15 AM, Theo de Raadt wrote: On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 08:45:30PM +0200, [BG-Consulting] Elmar Bschorer wrote: What do you mean with ss20? Actually a good question. At least for those old enough to remember the Soviet era SS-20 intermediate-range ballistic nucelar missiles. I'd like one of those too. OK, admission of nerdiness: All SS-20's were eliminated under the Intermediate and Shorter-range Nuclear Forces Treaty (INF), beginning in the late 80's and winding up during the early 90's, with final close-out inspections of all inspectable sites during the mid 90's, approximately at the same time as the START I Treaty kicked off. I have a decorative serving tray made from the metal of an eliminated ss-20. Off...topic? -Rob Payne Then you need one of these. http://www.aviatorwatch.ru/en/navigator/list.php?SECTION_ID=118 That's a nice watch!
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On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 08:45:30PM +0200, [BG-Consulting] Elmar Bschorer wrote: What do you mean with ss20? Actually a good question. At least for those old enough to remember the Soviet era SS-20 intermediate-range ballistic nucelar missiles. Can't seem to find any on ebay though but maybe someone in Russia can provide shell access? -- Cheers, Erling () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\
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What do you mean with ss20? Actually a good question. At least for those old enough to remember the Soviet era SS-20 intermediate-range ballistic nucelar missiles. Can't seem to find any on ebay though but maybe someone in Russia can provide shell access? actually shell access is enough for single use. But let's leave that weapons to Theo, but i ask for little tactical ones at 1kT range or so. feel free to send me an offer. please include transport and activation. I would send you my prefered target list. Seriously, sorry if it's stupid question, but cannot one just run qemu to emulate sparcstation (qemu can do this). It would probably be faster than real hardware. Or qemu emulation isn't like real hardware in catching bugs in OpenBSD that are CPU dependant?
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On 07/19/12 10:42, Erling Westenvik wrote: On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 08:45:30PM +0200, [BG-Consulting] Elmar Bschorer wrote: What do you mean with ss20? Actually a good question. At least for those old enough to remember the Soviet era SS-20 intermediate-range ballistic nucelar missiles. Can't seem to find any on ebay though but maybe someone in Russia can provide shell access? I don't have any ss-20 missiles, but I do have a SS5/170(turbosparc). Not, sure whether that would be useful or not. If it's too slow, it could possibly be adapted to control your centrifuge farm.
Re: ss20's wanted for ports builds
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 08:45:30PM +0200, [BG-Consulting] Elmar Bschorer wrote: What do you mean with ss20? Actually a good question. At least for those old enough to remember the Soviet era SS-20 intermediate-range ballistic nucelar missiles. I'd like one of those too.
Re: ss20's wanted for ports builds
On 07/19/12 10:42, Erling Westenvik wrote: On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 08:45:30PM +0200, [BG-Consulting] Elmar Bschorer wrote: What do you mean with ss20? Actually a good question. At least for those old enough to remember the Soviet era SS-20 intermediate-range ballistic nucelar missiles. Can't seem to find any on ebay though but maybe someone in Russia can provide shell access? I don't have any ss-20 missiles, but I do have a SS5/170(turbosparc). Not, sure whether that would be useful or not. If it's too slow, it could possibly be adapted to control your centrifuge farm. I am trying to use only ss20 machines in the rack, so that I can move parts back and forth easily.
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On 19 July 2012 17:15, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 08:45:30PM +0200, [BG-Consulting] Elmar Bschorer wrote: What do you mean with ss20? Actually a good question. At least for those old enough to remember the Soviet era SS-20 intermediate-range ballistic nucelar missiles. I'd like one of those too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS-20#Decommissioning
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Actually a good question. At least for those old enough to remember the Soviet era SS-20 intermediate-range ballistic nucelar missiles. I'd like one of those too. to avoid transport just choose a target and it will be delivered directly.
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Theo de Raadt wrote: On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 08:45:30PM +0200, [BG-Consulting] Elmar Bschorer wrote: What do you mean with ss20? Actually a good question. At least for those old enough to remember the Soviet era SS-20 intermediate-range ballistic nucelar missiles. I'd like one of those too. Lets be honest with ouselves sir, with your temper is a nuclear weapon really a good idea? -- IS-IS sleeps. BGP peers are quiet. Something must be wrong.
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Lets be honest with ouselves sir, with your temper is a nuclear weapon really a good idea? for sure better than in government hands
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On Thu, July 19, 2012 18:42, Erling Westenvik wrote: On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 08:45:30PM +0200, [BG-Consulting] Elmar Bschorer wrote: What do you mean with ss20? Actually a good question. At least for those old enough to remember the Soviet era SS-20 intermediate-range ballistic nucelar missiles. Can't seem to find any on ebay though but maybe someone in Russia can provide shell access? well, even forget to find it in exUSSR ;) AND NO SHELL ACCESS!!! Only buttons-buttons-buttons!!! If you have luck to find some. -- Cheers, Erling () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\
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On 07/17/2012 02:04 AM, thus Aaron Mason spake: I just had a look on eBay - I'm surprised to see them still attract decent money - $300 for a single processor 125MHz with 256mb RAM and 2x18GB drives (http://goo.gl/jKAyl). A bit out of my price range at the moment, otherwise I'd be right there. I could provide shell access to a SS20 with 256MByte RAM and two 75MHz SuperSPARC II CPUs. Bernd On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 6:19 AM, Matthew Dempskymatt...@dempsky.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:45 AM, [BG-Consulting] Elmar Bschorer elmar.bscho...@bugconsulting.de wrote: What sun sparc machine do you exactly need? What do you mean with ss20? SS20 stands for SPARCstation 20: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPARCstation_20
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On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Bernd be...@kroenchenstadt.de wrote: I could provide shell access to a SS20 with 256MByte RAM and two 75MHz SuperSPARC II CPUs. The workload for the snapshot and ports build machines really requires full, local access.
Re: ss20's wanted for ports builds
On 07/17/2012 08:32 AM, thus Matthew Dempsky spake: On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Berndbe...@kroenchenstadt.de wrote: I could provide shell access to a SS20 with 256MByte RAM and two 75MHz SuperSPARC II CPUs. The workload for the snapshot and ports build machines really requires full, local access. Well, console access would also be no problem -- except hands-on... Bernd
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On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 08:37:19AM +0200, Bernd wrote: On 07/17/2012 08:32 AM, thus Matthew Dempsky spake: On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Berndbe...@kroenchenstadt.de wrote: I could provide shell access to a SS20 with 256MByte RAM and two 75MHz SuperSPARC II CPUs. The workload for the snapshot and ports build machines really requires full, local access. Well, console access would also be no problem -- except hands-on... Bernd It's not a good idea to do offical builds on a machine that isn't (physically) controlled by developers. Both from a practical and from a security point of view. -Otto
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On 07/17/2012 08:49 AM, thus Otto Moerbeek spake: On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 08:37:19AM +0200, Bernd wrote: On 07/17/2012 08:32 AM, thus Matthew Dempsky spake: On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Berndbe...@kroenchenstadt.de wrote: I could provide shell access to a SS20 with 256MByte RAM and two 75MHz SuperSPARC II CPUs. The workload for the snapshot and ports build machines really requires full, local access. Well, console access would also be no problem -- except hands-on... Bernd It's not a good idea to do offical builds on a machine that isn't (physically) controlled by developers. Both from a practical and from a security point of view. Yikes. So no chance to get my chinese-modified SPARC into your project? ;) Okay, let's forget about that machine. -Otto Bernd
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I have an SS20 in the loft (Manchester, UK) as it's too noisy and slow for me now. It's very low end though IIRC one CPU @ 40MHz and 32 or 64MB RAM. Transport to other countries is probably a mite expensive due to weight, mind.. Otto Moerbeek o...@drijf.net wrote: On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 08:37:19AM +0200, Bernd wrote: On 07/17/2012 08:32 AM, thus Matthew Dempsky spake: On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Berndbe...@kroenchenstadt.de wrote: I could provide shell access to a SS20 with 256MByte RAM and two 75MHz SuperSPARC II CPUs. The workload for the snapshot and ports build machines really requires full, local access. Well, console access would also be no problem -- except hands-on... Bernd It's not a good idea to do offical builds on a machine that isn't (physically) controlled by developers. Both from a practical and from a security point of view. -Otto
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I can send a Ross Hypersparc 100 or 125 Mhz if needed ... Am 17.07.2012 um 10:17 schrieb Peter Kay: I have an SS20 in the loft (Manchester, UK) as it's too noisy and slow for me now. It's very low end though IIRC one CPU @ 40MHz and 32 or 64MB RAM. Transport to other countries is probably a mite expensive due to weight, mind.. Otto Moerbeek o...@drijf.net wrote: On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 08:37:19AM +0200, Bernd wrote: On 07/17/2012 08:32 AM, thus Matthew Dempsky spake: On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Berndbe...@kroenchenstadt.de wrote: I could provide shell access to a SS20 with 256MByte RAM and two 75MHz SuperSPARC II CPUs. The workload for the snapshot and ports build machines really requires full, local access. Well, console access would also be no problem -- except hands-on... Bernd It's not a good idea to do offical builds on a machine that isn't (physically) controlled by developers. Both from a practical and from a security point of view. -Otto
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For those of us who don't have the hardware, is there a shipping fund we could donate to? I wouldn't mind chipping in to help get the hardware where it's needed. On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 5:29 AM, Tom Knienieder t...@knienieder.ch wrote: I can send a Ross Hypersparc 100 or 125 Mhz if needed ... Am 17.07.2012 um 10:17 schrieb Peter Kay: I have an SS20 in the loft (Manchester, UK) as it's too noisy and slow for me now. It's very low end though IIRC one CPU @ 40MHz and 32 or 64MB RAM. Transport to other countries is probably a mite expensive due to weight, mind.. Otto Moerbeek o...@drijf.net wrote: On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 08:37:19AM +0200, Bernd wrote: On 07/17/2012 08:32 AM, thus Matthew Dempsky spake: On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Berndbe...@kroenchenstadt.de wrote: I could provide shell access to a SS20 with 256MByte RAM and two 75MHz SuperSPARC II CPUs. The workload for the snapshot and ports build machines really requires full, local access. Well, console access would also be no problem -- except hands-on... Bernd It's not a good idea to do offical builds on a machine that isn't (physically) controlled by developers. Both from a practical and from a security point of view. -Otto
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Good idea! That is a nice way of helping // Johan 2012/7/17 Gerald Thornberry ger...@thornberry.net: For those of us who don't have the hardware, is there a shipping fund we could donate to? I wouldn't mind chipping in to help get the hardware where it's needed.
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My university had plenty of those 7 years ago institue galilée / universitée paris XIII they may have dumped them 2012/7/17 Johan Ryberg jo...@securit.se Good idea! That is a nice way of helping // Johan 2012/7/17 Gerald Thornberry ger...@thornberry.net: For those of us who don't have the hardware, is there a shipping fund we could donate to? I wouldn't mind chipping in to help get the hardware where it's needed. -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\
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On 17 Jul 2012, at 13:50, Gerald Thornberry ger...@thornberry.net wrote: For those of us who don't have the hardware, is there a shipping fund we could donate to? I wouldn't mind chipping in to help get the hardware where it's needed. I need to get a SS20 to phessler@ from the Uk to Germany if people want to help with that, will be looking into how much it costs to ship this week. Sevan
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On Jul 17, 2012, at 9:42 PM, Sevan / Venture37 wrote: On 17 Jul 2012, at 13:50, Gerald Thornberry ger...@thornberry.net wrote: For those of us who don't have the hardware, is there a shipping fund we could donate to? I wouldn't mind chipping in to help get the hardware where it's needed. I need to get a SS20 to phessler@ from the Uk to Germany if people want to help with that, will be looking into how much it costs to ship this week. Brilliant! Please let me know, too. Franco
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I'm sure IndieGoGo would be happy to help out. Worked for Matthew Inman anyway. On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 5:57 AM, Franco Fichtner slash...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 17, 2012, at 9:42 PM, Sevan / Venture37 wrote: On 17 Jul 2012, at 13:50, Gerald Thornberry ger...@thornberry.net wrote: For those of us who don't have the hardware, is there a shipping fund we could donate to? I wouldn't mind chipping in to help get the hardware where it's needed. I need to get a SS20 to phessler@ from the Uk to Germany if people want to help with that, will be looking into how much it costs to ship this week. Brilliant! Please let me know, too. Franco -- Aaron Mason - Programmer, open source addict I've taken my software vows - for beta or for worse
ss20's wanted for ports builds
As many of you know, we continue to build packages on a lot of architectures which you don't have anymore, since quite often bugs are exposed which affects the mainline architectures. Unfortunately, we are running low on 32-bit sparc machines. If any of you have ss20's in good shape to give to the project, please let me know. I'd like to get them into the build cluster before the next release's builds start. Thanks.
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Hi Theo, I am using OpenBSD now for 4 Years. This would be the right moment for me to contribute to the project. What sun sparc machine do you exactly need? What do you mean with ss20? Maybe I can get One for you at eBay. Greets, Elmar Am 16.07.2012 um 19:57 schrieb Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org: As many of you know, we continue to build packages on a lot of architectures which you don't have anymore, since quite often bugs are exposed which affects the mainline architectures. Unfortunately, we are running low on 32-bit sparc machines. If any of you have ss20's in good shape to give to the project, please let me know. I'd like to get them into the build cluster before the next release's builds start. Thanks.
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On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:45 AM, [BG-Consulting] Elmar Bschorer elmar.bscho...@bugconsulting.de wrote: What sun sparc machine do you exactly need? What do you mean with ss20? SS20 stands for SPARCstation 20: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPARCstation_20
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I just had a look on eBay - I'm surprised to see them still attract decent money - $300 for a single processor 125MHz with 256mb RAM and 2x18GB drives (http://goo.gl/jKAyl). A bit out of my price range at the moment, otherwise I'd be right there. On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 6:19 AM, Matthew Dempsky matt...@dempsky.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:45 AM, [BG-Consulting] Elmar Bschorer elmar.bscho...@bugconsulting.de wrote: What sun sparc machine do you exactly need? What do you mean with ss20? SS20 stands for SPARCstation 20: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPARCstation_20 -- Aaron Mason - Programmer, open source addict I've taken my software vows - for beta or for worse
