Re: wine question - BAT2EXE?
Frank Bax wrote: As you can see from my posts (wine and qemu); I am open to any solution that will allow me to run this app with performance approaching (preferably faster than) native P3-600. I'll donate C$100 to OpenBSD if it works before year-end - it's not much, but its more than US$100 for the first time in +30 years. Shucks, I'll probably make the donation anyway; after all, the cost of a cdrom has been constant for a couple of years now. Holy screen savers Batman!! Thank you Jona Joachim for posting a question answered in August. Thank you Peter N. M. Hansteen for answering the same question twice. Thanks especially to Richard Toohey for keeping me thinking about this issue off-list over the past few days (and the trip down memory lane); I could have easily missed todays emails as well. I missed the initial thread discussing X11 speed on Lenovo laptop. Here I thought that problem had something to do with the fact I was using vesa driver and that it was unrelated to qemu performance. I boot bsd.mp with acpi enabled and the data conversion is completed in 1:50 (down from 6:00); my target was 1:20 (speed on native P3-600). Close enough! I just donated $100 to the project. What a great team! Frank
Re: wine question - BAT2EXE?
wine-990225 does not run BAT or COM files; only EXE files. There are two problems with: wine command.com /c progam.bat wine does not execute COM and expects every argument to be executable. I've seen some references to cmd and wcmd (which seem to be wine internal replacement for command.com); but as near as I can tell, this is a feature added in later versions of wine; because I can't get it to work either. My plan is to create a BAT file containing cd program.exe And convert to an EXE file, thereby (hopefully) avoiding problem in initial post. It is not necessary for the BAT2EXE program itself to work on wine (I can run that native); but I need the resulting EXE to run on wine. I've used OpenBSD for hosting (apache/mail) since 2000; and last year we setup an OpenBSD router in the house (with wifi even). I just moved from my (7 yr old) P3-600 laptop with Win98 to a new laptop with OpenBSD in August. I tried OpenBSD desktop several times over those years; but kept switching back - OpenBSD has come a LONG way with desktop support in recent years! As you can see from my posts (wine and qemu); I am open to any solution that will allow me to run this app with performance approaching (preferably faster than) native P3-600. I'll donate C$100 to OpenBSD if it works before year-end - it's not much, but its more than US$100 for the first time in +30 years. Shucks, I'll probably make the donation anyway; after all, the cost of a cdrom has been constant for a couple of years now. Frank ropers wrote: Sorry if this is nosy and sounds stupid, but I'm intrigued: Why would you need your .bat to become a .exe file? Hiding your code is obviously not a valid reason, or you wouldn't be asking this on the OpenBSD mailing list. On 05/10/2007, Frank Bax [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does know of a BAT2EXE program that produces an EXE which works under wine? First hit on google bat2exe wine indicates there is one that works on Linux (written in delphi), but the link is broken. I've tried several. Some actually create COM (not EXE) files which wine won't run. Others create EXE files that crash in various ways under wine. Frank Frank Bax wrote: I installed wine-990225p0 from packages on 4.1 and can run simple programs like sol and notepad. I have an old program I'm trying to run; but this program cannot find it's own files unless the current working directory is set to the directory where software was installed. It seems more recent wine versions support 'bat' files which would solve this; but this doesn't seem to work in this version. When I try: wine c://program.exe the software complains that it cannot open LIBS\FOXTOOLS.FLL This file is found at C:\\LIBS\FOXTOOLS.FLL Is there a way to run something like this on wine 990225?: cd program.exe If this is not workable on 990225; do current wine versions work on OpenBSD? Frank
Re: wine question - BAT2EXE?
I just went back to your first post: On 05/10/2007, Frank Bax [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does know of a BAT2EXE program that produces an EXE which works under wine? First hit on google bat2exe wine indicates there is one that works on Linux (written in delphi), but the link is broken. Well, you didn't try hard enough. True, the first Google hit http://www.rohitab.com/discuss/lofiversion/index.php/t10621.html shows this link: http://www.home.no/im-zenith/prg/bat2exe.exe and that returns a 404, but just with a little URL hacking you will find: http://www.home.no/im-zenith/program/ and there's your bat2exe program. Dude just reoranised his website. He must have missed the Tim BL memo: http://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI ;-) -ropers
Re: wine question - BAT2EXE?
Does know of a BAT2EXE program that produces an EXE which works under wine? First hit on google bat2exe wine indicates there is one that works on Linux (written in delphi), but the link is broken. I've tried several. Some actually create COM (not EXE) files which wine won't run. Others create EXE files that crash in various ways under wine. Frank Frank Bax wrote: I installed wine-990225p0 from packages on 4.1 and can run simple programs like sol and notepad. I have an old program I'm trying to run; but this program cannot find it's own files unless the current working directory is set to the directory where software was installed. It seems more recent wine versions support 'bat' files which would solve this; but this doesn't seem to work in this version. When I try: wine c://program.exe the software complains that it cannot open LIBS\FOXTOOLS.FLL This file is found at C:\\LIBS\FOXTOOLS.FLL Is there a way to run something like this on wine 990225?: cd program.exe If this is not workable on 990225; do current wine versions work on OpenBSD? Frank
Re: wine question - BAT2EXE?
Sorry if this is nosy and sounds stupid, but I'm intrigued: Why would you need your .bat to become a .exe file? Hiding your code is obviously not a valid reason, or you wouldn't be asking this on the OpenBSD mailing list. On 05/10/2007, Frank Bax [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does know of a BAT2EXE program that produces an EXE which works under wine? First hit on google bat2exe wine indicates there is one that works on Linux (written in delphi), but the link is broken. I've tried several. Some actually create COM (not EXE) files which wine won't run. Others create EXE files that crash in various ways under wine. Frank Frank Bax wrote: I installed wine-990225p0 from packages on 4.1 and can run simple programs like sol and notepad. I have an old program I'm trying to run; but this program cannot find it's own files unless the current working directory is set to the directory where software was installed. It seems more recent wine versions support 'bat' files which would solve this; but this doesn't seem to work in this version. When I try: wine c://program.exe the software complains that it cannot open LIBS\FOXTOOLS.FLL This file is found at C:\\LIBS\FOXTOOLS.FLL Is there a way to run something like this on wine 990225?: cd program.exe If this is not workable on 990225; do current wine versions work on OpenBSD? Frank -- www.ropersonline.com
Re: wine question
I do not know much about wine, but the issue interested me ... I've built from ports and I am having a look. From the manual page, re. the wine configuration file, it has this: format: path = directories separated by semi-colons default: C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM Used to specify the path which will be used to find exe- cutables and .DLL's. Can you add C:\ and/or C:\\LIBS to that list and see if it helps? A FLL looks like a FoxPro dynamic link library, so it should count as a DLL. Back to RTFMing ... On 3/10/2007, at 8:27 AM, Joachim Schipper wrote: On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 05:56:46PM -0400, Frank Bax wrote: I installed wine-990225p0 from packages on 4.1 and can run simple programs like sol and notepad. I have an old program I'm trying to run; but this program cannot find it's own files unless the current working directory is set to the directory where software was installed. It seems more recent wine versions support 'bat' files which would solve this; but this doesn't seem to work in this version. When I try: wine c://program.exe the software complains that it cannot open LIBS\FOXTOOLS.FLL This file is found at C:\\LIBS\FOXTOOLS.FLL Is there a way to run something like this on wine 990225?: cd program.exe If this is not workable on 990225; do current wine versions work on OpenBSD? I'm not sure if there is a way to 'cd' on OpenBSD's version of Wine. As to porting: more recent Wines do weird things with threads, if I understand the issue correctly. In short, don't expect an update soon. Qemu works fine, if you don't need to run a particularly demanding program. Joachim -- TFMotD: inet6 (4) - Internet protocol version 6 family
Re: qemu speed (was: wine question)
Indeed, this is a FoxPro program. I had tried changing the path; and tested it by starting program without using full path to EXE - although the program does startup this way; it still fails at the same point. I also tried QEMU; but was still researching options before bringing speed question here. I've read that it can be a bit slow; but I'm wondering HOW slow? I use the FoxPro program to convert a database from one format to another. Native Win98 on P3-600 the process takes 1:20 (min:sec). On a 2GHz Core2Duo, QEMU takes 6:00 minutes. Is this expected speed? On QEMU/BSD forum, it was suggested I compile from source, so I used ports instead of package, but there was no change to speed of this process. Files are currently inside a virtual disk. Is that fastest for disk i/o? Am I likely to speed it up if I have files on host and access them via samba? Is there another way to access host files from Win98 guest? Frank Richard Toohey wrote: I do not know much about wine, but the issue interested me ... I've built from ports and I am having a look. From the manual page, re. the wine configuration file, it has this: format: path = directories separated by semi-colons default: C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM Used to specify the path which will be used to find exe- cutables and .DLL's. Can you add C:\ and/or C:\\LIBS to that list and see if it helps? A FLL looks like a FoxPro dynamic link library, so it should count as a DLL. Back to RTFMing ... On 3/10/2007, at 8:27 AM, Joachim Schipper wrote: On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 05:56:46PM -0400, Frank Bax wrote: I installed wine-990225p0 from packages on 4.1 and can run simple programs like sol and notepad. I have an old program I'm trying to run; but this program cannot find it's own files unless the current working directory is set to the directory where software was installed. It seems more recent wine versions support 'bat' files which would solve this; but this doesn't seem to work in this version. When I try: wine c://program.exe the software complains that it cannot open LIBS\FOXTOOLS.FLL This file is found at C:\\LIBS\FOXTOOLS.FLL Is there a way to run something like this on wine 990225?: cd program.exe If this is not workable on 990225; do current wine versions work on OpenBSD? I'm not sure if there is a way to 'cd' on OpenBSD's version of Wine. As to porting: more recent Wines do weird things with threads, if I understand the issue correctly. In short, don't expect an update soon. Qemu works fine, if you don't need to run a particularly demanding program. Joachim -- TFMotD: inet6 (4) - Internet protocol version 6 family
Re: qemu speed (was: wine question)
I've never used QEMU so I may be talking out my hat. Looking at the docs for it yesterday I remember seeing something about the QEMU accelerator. Is that an option here? When used as a virtualizer, QEMU achieves near native performances by executing the guest code directly on the host CPU. A host driver called the QEMU accelerator (also known as KQEMU) is needed in this case. The virtualizer mode requires that both the host and guest machine use x86 compatible processors. http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/about.html On 10/4/07, Frank Bax [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indeed, this is a FoxPro program. I had tried changing the path; and tested it by starting program without using full path to EXE - although the program does startup this way; it still fails at the same point. I also tried QEMU; but was still researching options before bringing speed question here. I've read that it can be a bit slow; but I'm wondering HOW slow? I use the FoxPro program to convert a database from one format to another. Native Win98 on P3-600 the process takes 1:20 (min:sec). On a 2GHz Core2Duo, QEMU takes 6:00 minutes. Is this expected speed? On QEMU/BSD forum, it was suggested I compile from source, so I used ports instead of package, but there was no change to speed of this process. Files are currently inside a virtual disk. Is that fastest for disk i/o? Am I likely to speed it up if I have files on host and access them via samba? Is there another way to access host files from Win98 guest? Frank Richard Toohey wrote: I do not know much about wine, but the issue interested me ... I've built from ports and I am having a look. From the manual page, re. the wine configuration file, it has this: format: path = directories separated by semi-colons default: C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM Used to specify the path which will be used to find exe- cutables and .DLL's. Can you add C:\ and/or C:\\LIBS to that list and see if it helps? A FLL looks like a FoxPro dynamic link library, so it should count as a DLL. Back to RTFMing ... On 3/10/2007, at 8:27 AM, Joachim Schipper wrote: On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 05:56:46PM -0400, Frank Bax wrote: I installed wine-990225p0 from packages on 4.1 and can run simple programs like sol and notepad. I have an old program I'm trying to run; but this program cannot find it's own files unless the current working directory is set to the directory where software was installed. It seems more recent wine versions support 'bat' files which would solve this; but this doesn't seem to work in this version. When I try: wine c://program.exe the software complains that it cannot open LIBS\FOXTOOLS.FLL This file is found at C:\\LIBS\FOXTOOLS.FLL Is there a way to run something like this on wine 990225?: cd program.exe If this is not workable on 990225; do current wine versions work on OpenBSD? I'm not sure if there is a way to 'cd' on OpenBSD's version of Wine. As to porting: more recent Wines do weird things with threads, if I understand the issue correctly. In short, don't expect an update soon. Qemu works fine, if you don't need to run a particularly demanding program. Joachim -- TFMotD: inet6 (4) - Internet protocol version 6 family
Re: wine question
On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 05:56:46PM -0400, Frank Bax wrote: I installed wine-990225p0 from packages on 4.1 and can run simple programs like sol and notepad. I have an old program I'm trying to run; but this program cannot find it's own files unless the current working directory is set to the directory where software was installed. It seems more recent wine versions support 'bat' files which would solve this; but this doesn't seem to work in this version. When I try: wine c://program.exe the software complains that it cannot open LIBS\FOXTOOLS.FLL This file is found at C:\\LIBS\FOXTOOLS.FLL Is there a way to run something like this on wine 990225?: cd program.exe If this is not workable on 990225; do current wine versions work on OpenBSD? I'm not sure if there is a way to 'cd' on OpenBSD's version of Wine. As to porting: more recent Wines do weird things with threads, if I understand the issue correctly. In short, don't expect an update soon. Qemu works fine, if you don't need to run a particularly demanding program. Joachim -- TFMotD: inet6 (4) - Internet protocol version 6 family
wine question
I installed wine-990225p0 from packages on 4.1 and can run simple programs like sol and notepad. I have an old program I'm trying to run; but this program cannot find it's own files unless the current working directory is set to the directory where software was installed. It seems more recent wine versions support 'bat' files which would solve this; but this doesn't seem to work in this version. When I try: wine c://program.exe the software complains that it cannot open LIBS\FOXTOOLS.FLL This file is found at C:\\LIBS\FOXTOOLS.FLL Is there a way to run something like this on wine 990225?: cd program.exe If this is not workable on 990225; do current wine versions work on OpenBSD? Frank
Re: wine question
On Mon, 1 Oct 2007, Frank Bax wrote: If this is not workable on 990225; do current wine versions work on OpenBSD? No, porting latest version isn't trivial. There have been efforts to do this on ports@ but they aren't completed. Maybe someone will pick up the most recent port and finish it? 8-) -- Antti Harri
