Nick Ibarra Interview
Keith and I are starting our interviews for City Council and the Mayoral Race in Springfield. Our guest will be Nick Ibarra,tommarrow night. Dec 19th at 9 PM. We hope to cover all the Candidates who will be on the Feb,3rd primary ballot for City Council and Mayor of Springfield, Missouri. Our website is www.blogtalkradio.com/showmelibertarians Feel free to call in with a question or join our chat room for disscussion. You must register with blogtalk to enter the chat room, which costs nothing. Call in number is 347-215-8507. This is a non partasin race and our guests are not affiliated with the Libertarian Party. Teddy Fleck teddyfl...@yahoo.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ This is a Free Speech forum. The owner of this list assumes no responsibility for the intellectual or emotional maturity of its members. If you do not like what is being said here, filter it to trash, ignore it or leave. If you leave, learn how to do this for yourself. If you do not, you will be here forever. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
This is how you run a City
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Re: This is how you run a City (my comment = ????)
Interesting! ! ! However, I do wonder how much we should consider Abu Dhabi as a good financial operational model for Springfield. Since the price of crude oil dropped like a rock recently, Abu Dhabi has gone from being super-rich money magnet to near bankruptcy. Building has stopped. Foreign workers (doing all the building) have been expelled. Half-finished skyscrapers are deserted. Foreign investment in A.D. is zilch. Their financial support for 'new' developments (including alternative energy sources) has stopped. Maybe A.D.will come back if oil prices increase again. Jim Hornaday From: "larmelt...@aol.com" To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 10:31:11 AM Subject: This is how you run a City Welcome to MASDAR One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ This is a Free Speech forum. The owner of this list assumes no responsibility for the intellectual or emotional maturity of its members. If you do not like what is being said here, filter it to trash, ignore it or leave. If you leave, learn how to do this for yourself. If you do not, you will be here forever. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Fw: Common Sense: Blogging Now Illegal?
December 19, 2008 Blogging Now Illegal?Has political blogging been outlawed in Italy? Maybe. A disturbing precedent has been laid down, at any rate. Back in May of 2008, a Sicilian judge determined that historian and blogger Carlo Ruto was guilty of publishing a “clandestine newspaper,” which it turns out is illegal. How did Ruto’s blog achieve the status of a “clandestine newspaper”? It wasn’t properly registered with the authorities. Also, it had a headline. If your blog entry has a headline, it’s a newspaper, the judge ruled. The penalty is 250 Euros or up to two years in prison. Ruto was spared imprisonment but fined and ordered to take down the site, which he did. This all goes back to a 1948 law requiring registration of newspapers. Which in 2001 was deviously modified to include websites. Ruto was targeted for being critical of connections between the Italian government and the mafia. Maybe his case is the exception. But recently, a well-known Italian politician, Giuseppe Giulietti, said that almost the entire contents of the Italian Internet “could be considered illegal.” Bloggers are up in arms, as well they should be. Sounds incredible. But bloggers in the U.S. have been threatened with similar sledgehammers, in the form of campaign finance regulation. This is Common Sense. I’m Paul Jacob. Comment on this episode | Listen to this episode Paul Jacob is President of Citizens in Charge and a Senior Advisor to the Sam Adams Alliance, which sponsors both Paul’s weekly Townhall column and Common Sense, a short radio commentary featured in over 100 radio stations throughout the country. Click here to visit our new website, which has archives of Paul’s commentary since 1999! For more information — and more ways to get involved — click on more Sam Adams Alliance projects below: This message was sent from Common Sense to fbelli...@yahoo.com. It was sent from: Sam Adams Alliance, 20 N. Wacker Dr. Suite 3330 , Chicago, IL 60606. You can modify/update your subscription via the link below. Manage your subscription --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ This is a Free Speech forum. The owner of this list assumes no responsibility for the intellectual or emotional maturity of its members. If you do not like what is being said here, filter it to trash, ignore it or leave. If you leave, learn how to do this for yourself. If you do not, you will be here forever. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: City Council is at it Again - passing up free money
Tom I believe you are correct. It is time to strike out on our own. I am not going to sit on this one waiting for the correct authority to be the leader. Would you be the moderator as you are not committed in any direction but the most reasonable one? Maybe we could have this after the first of the year? Cathy M Catren's Shar Pei Catren's Leather Show Accessories From: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com [mailto:missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Martz Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:58 PM To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: City Council is at it Again - passing up free money Cathy, Jenny, Stacy Brian and whoever else is interested, I believe the smart thing would be for breeders, adoption program people and those in the SAAF, and representatives from the vet clinics to get together without council and work on issues of which you are in agreement with. We could hold this meeting at any library and we could even have a moderator that would list ideas from both sides on a separate sheet of paper. When an idea is cross referenced to both sheets of paper then we work on making that position something you can all agree on. You don't need city council to conduct these meetings and you don't need cc to be the orchestrator of proposing animal control legislation. If you all allow cc to do this none of you all are going to be happy. On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 8:22 PM, CathyM wrote: Well, at least the city council is consistent or should I say the council women. We offered the city a way to be relieved of the burden of the animal problem at little to no cost to them and what do they want to do.Micro manage and make decisions for the public. Here is the result of last night's public meeting about animal control issues. Cathy M Catren's Shar Pei Catren's Leather Show Accessories Following is the report that Jenny brought back from the meeting last night with the two city council women. I was not able to make due to weather and my mom being sick. Jenny did a very good job of representing the breeders and had to take a lot of slack by herself with very little backup. Thank goodness, Tom Martz was there and gave her the support she needed. The only suggestion I have to all of this is that we start to talk to the rest of the city council. The women admitted that they do not have the majority of the city council behind them and as Jenny pointed out: And yes, I think that getting a hold of the rest of Council would work, especially when we tell them that to enact these Ordinances renders the area ineligible for the grants that will pay for all of the shelters and L/C speuter clinic, and the burden of financing this operation would then fall on the City. I think that would really hack them off to know that these two women are deliberately rejecting the means that are needed to make it not burden the city coffers. Feel free to pass the report (without names at this time to protect ourselves) around. Cathy M Catren's Shar Pei Catren's Leather Show Accessories Well, there were parts that went well, and parts that didn't go so well. The bottom line is that we all want to do something to help, but the principles in this have no idea how to become a cohesive group, nor do they seem to want to become one, in order to actually become eligible for what they really need- money. They threw out suggestions, one at a time, but it basically has taken a total of 4 hours over two nights to drag out of all these people the information that we put in one packet for each and every one of the Council Members. Anne, who runs the Pet Connection, is motivated by propaganda, ad deeply believes that animal breeding is the whole problem, and if that is stopped, there will be no more unwanted pets. Every comment from her encouraged the room to volumes of aggreement, and everybody in there seemed to be in support of the proposed ordinances. However, and I had written this down, thank goodness, because I completely spaced out telling Cathy, Cindy Rushefsky and Mary Collette admitted that while they were going to push this through, they didn't have the support of the majority of Council. Sorry Cathy- I was running a 101 degree fever last night. It's a miracle I remembered the things I did! Anyway, Council did NOT read the packets we gave them, and continued to have no idea how much money in grants is available to take care of everything, including equipment for the Low Cost Spay Neuter Clinic the city wants to put somewhere. They are looking for someone to "donate" the building and the lot, because they don't have any money in the budget to pay for it. The biggest problem, though, is that if they are able to push the ordinances through, the shelter system in Springfield becomes automatically ineligible for Maddie's Fund, which is huge, and the PetsMart Charitable Fund, too. Both of these grants are looking fo
Re: This is how you run a City (my comment = ????)
Jim. You are SO right. ! Well done. Kinda Like Springfield . Don't Ya think ? Maybe we should sell oil. I can remember when some water well drilling companies that were drilling for water here in Missouri would hit oil and other products before they hit water. I know !!! We could buy oil from them now and when they jack the price up . We could sell it back to them. Buy My Butter!!! I would show them my Gravity powered electric generator for 800 billion. I could send them a drawing for half that amount. But the check would have to clear my bank before I could allow them to open the envelope. Larry The Fairtax Guy In a message dated 12/19/2008 11:26:28 AM Central Standard Time, rail...@sbcglobal.net writes: Interesting! ! ! However, I do wonder how much we should consider Abu Dhabi as a good financial operational model for Springfield. Since the price of crude oil dropped like a rock recently, Abu Dhabi has gone from being super-rich money magnet to near bankruptcy. Building has stopped. Foreign workers (doing all the building) have been expelled. Half-finished skyscrapers are deserted. Foreign investment in A.D. is zilch. Their financial support for 'new' developments (including alternative energy sources) has stopped. Maybe A.D.will come back if oil prices increase again. Jim Hornaday **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom0025) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ This is a Free Speech forum. The owner of this list assumes no responsibility for the intellectual or emotional maturity of its members. If you do not like what is being said here, filter it to trash, ignore it or leave. If you leave, learn how to do this for yourself. If you do not, you will be here forever. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: This is how you run a City (my comment = ????)
I have been thinking !! O ! NO ! So you say . What could we offer the city of Abu Dhabi or Masdar, what ever. John Morris and all his money. He could go and build them a Dead Animal Park. John Hammonds could go over there and build some parking garages with all his money. Maybe a motel or two. Mayor Carlson could go over there and build some low income apartments. Greg Burris could go over there and show them how to tax people to run the services of the first responders. Boy O Boy. I could go on and on. Wonder if we could sell these people to Abu Dhabi ? Larry The Fairtax Guy In a message dated 12/19/2008 2:50:12 PM Central Standard Time, larmelton3 writes: Jim. You are SO right. ! Well done. Kinda Like Springfield . Don't Ya think ? Maybe we should sell oil. I can remember when some water well drilling companies that were drilling for water here in Missouri would hit oil and other products before they hit water. I know !!! We could buy oil from them now and when they jack the price up . We could sell it back to them. Buy My Butter!!! I would show them my Gravity powered electric generator for 800 billion. I could send them a drawing for half that amount. But the check would have to clear my bank before I could allow them to open the envelope. Larry The Fairtax Guy **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom0025) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ This is a Free Speech forum. The owner of this list assumes no responsibility for the intellectual or emotional maturity of its members. If you do not like what is being said here, filter it to trash, ignore it or leave. If you leave, learn how to do this for yourself. If you do not, you will be here forever. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: City Council is at it Again - passing up free money
I have no problem with finding the middle ground with all of you groups On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:54 AM, CathyM wrote: > Tom > > I believe you are correct. It is time to strike out on our own. I am not > going to sit on this one waiting for the correct authority to be the > leader. Would you be the moderator as you are not committed in any > direction but the most reasonable one? Maybe we could have this after the > first of the year? > > > > Cathy M > > Catren's Shar Pei > > Catren's Leather Show Accessories > > > > *From:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com [mailto: > missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Martz > *Sent:* Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:58 PM > *To:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: City Council is at it Again - passing up free money > > > > Cathy, Jenny, Stacy Brian and whoever else is interested, > > I believe the smart thing would be for breeders, adoption program people > and those in the SAAF, and representatives from the vet clinics to get > together without council and work on issues of which you are in agreement > with. We could hold this meeting at any library and we could even have a > moderator that would list ideas from both sides on a separate sheet of > paper. When an idea is cross referenced to both sheets of paper then we > work on making that position something you can all agree on. > You don't need city council to conduct these meetings and you don't need cc > to be the orchestrator of proposing animal control legislation. If you all > allow cc to do this none of you all are going to be happy. > > On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 8:22 PM, CathyM wrote: > > Well, at least the city council is consistent or should I say the council > women. We offered the city a way to be relieved of the burden of the animal > problem at little to no cost to them and what do they want to do…Micro > manage and make decisions for the public. > > Here is the result of last night's public meeting about animal control > issues. > > > > Cathy M > > Catren's Shar Pei > > Catren's Leather Show Accessories > > > > > > Following is the report that Jenny brought back from the meeting last night > with the two city council women. I was not able to make due to weather and > my mom being sick. Jenny did a very good job of representing the breeders > and had to take a lot of slack by herself with very little backup. Thank > goodness, Tom Martz was there and gave her the support she needed. > > > > The only suggestion I have to all of this is that we start to talk to the > rest of the city council. The women admitted that they do not have the > majority of the city council behind them and as Jenny pointed out: > > And yes, I think that getting a hold of the rest of Council would work, > especially when we tell them that to enact these Ordinances renders the area > ineligible for the grants that will pay for all of the shelters and L/C > speuter clinic, and the burden of financing this operation would then fall > on the City. I think that would really hack them off to know that these two > women are deliberately rejecting the means that are needed to make it not > burden the city coffers. > > > > Feel free to pass the report (without names at this time to protect > ourselves) around. > > > > Cathy M > > Catren's Shar Pei > > Catren's Leather Show Accessories > > > > > > > > Well, there were parts that went well, and parts that didn't go so well. > The bottom line is that we all want to do something to help, but the > principles in this have no idea how to become a cohesive group, nor do they > seem to want to become one, in order to actually become eligible for what > they really need- money. > > > > They threw out suggestions, one at a time, but it basically has taken a > total of 4 hours over two nights to drag out of all these people the > information that we put in one packet for each and every one of the Council > Members. > > > > Anne, who runs the Pet Connection, is motivated by propaganda, ad deeply > believes that animal breeding is the whole problem, and if that is stopped, > there will be no more unwanted pets. Every comment from her encouraged the > room to volumes of aggreement, and everybody in there seemed to be in > support of the proposed ordinances. However, and I had written this down, > thank goodness, because I completely spaced out telling Cathy, Cindy > Rushefsky and Mary Collette admitted that while they were going to push this > through, they didn't have the support of the majority of Council. Sorry > Cathy- I was running a 101 degree fever last night. It's a miracle I > remembered the things I did! > > > > Anyway, Council did NOT read the packets we gave them, and continued to > have no idea how much money in grants is available to take care of > everything, including equipment for the Low Cost Spay Neuter Clinic the city > wants to put somewhere. They are looking for someone to "donate" the > building and the lot, bec
my opponent
The following section from Mr Stephens blog shows his clear lack of knowledge or concept of which I spoke of last night. " It was truly an eye-opening experience. There were several candidates (including one in my race for General Seat A) who said that the City Council should earmark some of the specialized taxes that voters have approved (Capital Improvements, Transportation, or Parks) and devote those revenues to the Police and Firefighters Pension Fund. Those candidates demonstrate a terrible lack of respect for the voters—the folks we are supposed to represent. Whenever the voters elect to tax themselves for a specific purpose, it should not be within the authority of City Council to simply disregard the will of the people and divert those funds to other projects. General funds, yes; specific taxes, no". Even though this is NOT what I said nor what I suggested he can reasonably be certain I won't slam his lack of conceptional common sense until we speak in front of the Republicans. You'll also notice that he is trying to portary something which is completely against the city charter. My when we don't understand how the city operates it is quite easy to make such misleading statements. tom -- http://votetom4council.webs.com/ www.moliberty.org http://417-political-pundit.blogspot.com "lite a fire for a man he'll be warm for a day, lite the man on fire and he'll be warm the rest of his life". Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you! -Pericles (430 B.C.) "You don't pay taxes - they take taxes." ~ Chris Rock~ "no cause is lost if there is but one fool to fight for it" ~Will Turner~ ~Pirate's of the Caribbean @ World's End~ Save your property rights www.mo-cpr.org http://www.radiofreeliberty.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ This is a Free Speech forum. The owner of this list assumes no responsibility for the intellectual or emotional maturity of its members. If you do not like what is being said here, filter it to trash, ignore it or leave. If you leave, learn how to do this for yourself. If you do not, you will be here forever. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Husband Down
*Husband Down* *A husband and wife are shopping in their local Wal-Mart. ** The husband picks up a case of Budweiser and puts it in their cart. **'What do you think you're doing?'** asks the wife. ** **'They're on sale, only $10 for 24 cans,'** he replies. ** **'Put them back, we can't afford them,'** demands the wife, and so they carry on shopping. ** A few aisles further on along the woman picks up a $20 jar of face cream and puts it in the basket. **'What do you think you're doing?'** asks the husband. ** **'It's my face cream. It makes me look beautiful,'** replies the wife. ** Her husband retorts: **'So does 24 cans of Budweiser ... at half the price.' ** ** On the PA system: **'Cleanup needed on aisle 25, we have a husband down.' * . -- http://votetom4council.webs.com/ www.moliberty.org http://417-political-pundit.blogspot.com "lite a fire for a man he'll be warm for a day, lite the man on fire and he'll be warm the rest of his life". Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you! -Pericles (430 B.C.) "You don't pay taxes - they take taxes." ~ Chris Rock~ "no cause is lost if there is but one fool to fight for it" ~Will Turner~ ~Pirate's of the Caribbean @ World's End~ Save your property rights www.mo-cpr.org http://www.radiofreeliberty.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ This is a Free Speech forum. The owner of this list assumes no responsibility for the intellectual or emotional maturity of its members. If you do not like what is being said here, filter it to trash, ignore it or leave. If you leave, learn how to do this for yourself. If you do not, you will be here forever. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
listening link
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/showmelibertarians My interview is on this link although I'm not happy with the interview it does lay out some of my stances and as this process continues on my answers will come more around to more important issues. -- http://votetom4council.webs.com/ www.moliberty.org http://417-political-pundit.blogspot.com "lite a fire for a man he'll be warm for a day, lite the man on fire and he'll be warm the rest of his life". Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you! -Pericles (430 B.C.) "You don't pay taxes - they take taxes." ~ Chris Rock~ "no cause is lost if there is but one fool to fight for it" ~Will Turner~ ~Pirate's of the Caribbean @ World's End~ Save your property rights www.mo-cpr.org http://www.radiofreeliberty.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ This is a Free Speech forum. The owner of this list assumes no responsibility for the intellectual or emotional maturity of its members. If you do not like what is being said here, filter it to trash, ignore it or leave. If you leave, learn how to do this for yourself. If you do not, you will be here forever. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: City Council is at it Again - passing up free money
Then you (Tom Martz) will be the moderator. Thank you for volunteering. Jenny and I are in the process of getting contact information of all of the rescue groups in the area. Today, Jenny went and talked to Springfield AC and SWHS. I am waiting for contact back from Clay Goddard (City Animal Control) to start compiling information from them. Jenny talked to the manager of SWHS and some of the BOD and informed them they were already qualifying for a No-Kill shelter. They were in shock as they said they did put some animals down. This made us both realize, many of these rescues don't even know what No-Kill means (the adoption of all healthy animals and only putting down animals that are sick, cannot be rehabilitated, old, or for other specific reasons; no time limits are put on how long the animals will be in the shelter before being adopted; no mandatory s/n or permits or licensing on breeding ordinances being passed; and a few other things) and that No-Kill is not one shelter but a system of shelters and rescues all working together. So now we are also going to come up with a presentation to all of the rescues, AC and SWHS on how a No-Kill system runs. Thankfully we have Chicago to model a No-Kill system after, and they do have a model No-Kill system (2006 stats show only 4% of healthy dogs that entered the system were euthanized; 16,688 healthy dogs entered the system in 2006; roughly 392,913 households in Chicago own 667,952 dogs [stats from national research and quoted from John Yates, American Sportsmen Dog Alliance organization blog in response to Chicago area response to MSN proposition]). Both the meetings and the presentations will be open to the public to help them learn what is going to have to happen for Springfield and the surrounding area to become a No-Kill system. I am being optimistic and we will win! VBG Cathy M Catren's Shar Pei Catren's Leather Show Accessories From: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com [mailto:missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Martz Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 4:23 PM To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: City Council is at it Again - passing up free money I have no problem with finding the middle ground with all of you groups On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:54 AM, CathyM wrote: Tom I believe you are correct. It is time to strike out on our own. I am not going to sit on this one waiting for the correct authority to be the leader. Would you be the moderator as you are not committed in any direction but the most reasonable one? Maybe we could have this after the first of the year? Cathy M Catren's Shar Pei Catren's Leather Show Accessories From: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com [mailto:missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Martz Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:58 PM To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: City Council is at it Again - passing up free money Cathy, Jenny, Stacy Brian and whoever else is interested, I believe the smart thing would be for breeders, adoption program people and those in the SAAF, and representatives from the vet clinics to get together without council and work on issues of which you are in agreement with. We could hold this meeting at any library and we could even have a moderator that would list ideas from both sides on a separate sheet of paper. When an idea is cross referenced to both sheets of paper then we work on making that position something you can all agree on. You don't need city council to conduct these meetings and you don't need cc to be the orchestrator of proposing animal control legislation. If you all allow cc to do this none of you all are going to be happy. On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 8:22 PM, CathyM wrote: Well, at least the city council is consistent or should I say the council women. We offered the city a way to be relieved of the burden of the animal problem at little to no cost to them and what do they want to do.Micro manage and make decisions for the public. Here is the result of last night's public meeting about animal control issues. Cathy M Catren's Shar Pei Catren's Leather Show Accessories Following is the report that Jenny brought back from the meeting last night with the two city council women. I was not able to make due to weather and my mom being sick. Jenny did a very good job of representing the breeders and had to take a lot of slack by herself with very little backup. Thank goodness, Tom Martz was there and gave her the support she needed. The only suggestion I have to all of this is that we start to talk to the rest of the city council. The women admitted that they do not have the majority of the city council behind them and as Jenny pointed out: And yes, I think that getting a hold of the rest of Council would work, especially when we tell them that to enact these Ordinances renders the area ineligible for the gr
Re: Husband Down
( Buy My Butter ) In a message dated 12/19/2008 4:38:18 PM Central Standard Time, t.ma...@gmail.com writes: 'It's my face cream. It makes me look beautiful,' replies the wife. Her husband retorts: 'So does 24 cans of Budweiser ... at half the price.' **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom0025) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ This is a Free Speech forum. The owner of this list assumes no responsibility for the intellectual or emotional maturity of its members. If you do not like what is being said here, filter it to trash, ignore it or leave. If you leave, learn how to do this for yourself. If you do not, you will be here forever. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Buy My Butter
Did you know that it is against the LAW today and has been for years to posses or have for sale artificial butter of any kind in the State of Missouri ? ( BUY MY BUTTER ) Larry The Fairtax Guy **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom0025) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ This is a Free Speech forum. The owner of this list assumes no responsibility for the intellectual or emotional maturity of its members. If you do not like what is being said here, filter it to trash, ignore it or leave. If you leave, learn how to do this for yourself. If you do not, you will be here forever. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Unenforced Law
Tuesday, December 16, 2008 _Lampe Lauches Butter Battle Over Unenforced Law_ (http://ky3.blogspot.com/2008/12/lampe-lauches-butter-battle-over.html) (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NzP9nkh_LDM/SUh9_J1QT9I/DFk/O6ZPiuustPM/s1600-h/Butter+Battle+ANIM.jpg) Selling Imitation Butter Is Illegal In Missouri Sound Ridiculous? Watch the KY3 News @ 10 Report (http://www.ky3.com/news/local/36276364.html) _HERE _ (http://www.ky3.com/news/local/36276364.html) *** **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom0025) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ This is a Free Speech forum. The owner of this list assumes no responsibility for the intellectual or emotional maturity of its members. If you do not like what is being said here, filter it to trash, ignore it or leave. If you leave, learn how to do this for yourself. If you do not, you will be here forever. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
GET RID OF'EM
As state tax revenue declines and Gov.-elect Jay Nixon’s transition team projects a $342 million budget shortfall, one elusive pot of gold may offer some relief. Delinquent state taxes could total more than $500 million by one estimate, and the Missouri Department of Revenue is out to collect. Soon companies looking to renew their business licenses first will have to obtain a certificate that confirms they have no taxes due. The measure, passed in 2007 as part of Senate Bill 30, takes effect Jan. 1. Meanwhile, since 2004, the Department of Revenue has hired three outside contractors to identify and collect unpaid and underreported taxes. Since then they have identified $51 million in revenue that the department might otherwise have missed, said spokesman David Griffith. Even with outside assistance, however, the department’s handle on tax delinquencies appears tenuous. Jim Brentlinger, who left his post as administrator of the department’s taxation bureau in November, estimated as much as $1 billion in delinquent taxes are outstanding in Missouri, though about half of that is probably too old or difficult to realistically try to collect. **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom0025) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ This is a Free Speech forum. The owner of this list assumes no responsibility for the intellectual or emotional maturity of its members. If you do not like what is being said here, filter it to trash, ignore it or leave. If you leave, learn how to do this for yourself. If you do not, you will be here forever. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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The cost of these collection contractors is more then they collect. Check Me.
As state tax revenue declines and Gov.-elect Jay Nixon’s transition team projects a $342 million budget shortfall, one elusive pot of gold may offer some relief. Delinquent state taxes could total more than $500 million by one estimate, and the Missouri Department of Revenue is out to collect. Soon companies looking to renew their business licenses first will have to obtain a certificate that confirms they have no taxes due. The measure, passed in 2007 as part of Senate Bill 30, takes effect Jan. 1. Meanwhile, since 2004, the Department of Revenue has hired three outside contractors to identify and collect unpaid and underreported taxes. Since then they have identified $51 million in revenue that the department might otherwise have missed, said spokesman David Griffith. Even with outside assistance, however, the department’s handle on tax delinquencies appears tenuous. Jim Brentlinger, who left his post as administrator of the department’s taxation bureau in November, estimated as much as $1 billion in delinquent taxes are outstanding in Missouri, though about half of that is probably too old or difficult to realistically try to collect. **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom0025) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ This is a Free Speech forum. The owner of this list assumes no responsibility for the intellectual or emotional maturity of its members. If you do not like what is being said here, filter it to trash, ignore it or leave. If you leave, learn how to do this for yourself. If you do not, you will be here forever. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: The cost of these collection contractors is more then they collect. Check...
Do you understand that Walmart can collect all taxes due. For .005% charge to the State. Have you ever gotten out of Walmart without paying all taxes that are legal and lawful? Get Rid of'em O. Hey ! How is Ron Paul doing with the idea of removing the IRS and the FEDs? The Fairtax is number two on Obomas list to make a real change that he promised. Where is Ron Pauls platform on Obomas list ? How can I help you to get Rons ideas on Obomas list for change? Did you know that the IRS wants to place an OBESITY tax on fat people? Is that a tax on Gravity ? What do you people not understamd about Fair? GET RID OF'EM O.Hey SMU graduated 3 or 4 thousand under educated bunks today and out of all of the over educated bunks. ONE left the university with a doctrine. WOW. Ha! Ha! He! He! Larry The Fairtax Guy In a message dated 12/19/2008 7:58:01 PM Central Standard Time, larmelt...@aol.com writes: As state tax revenue declines and Gov.-elect Jay Nixon’s transition team projects a $342 million budget shortfall, one elusive pot of gold may offer some relief. Delinquent state taxes could total more than $500 million by one estimate, and the Missouri Department of Revenue is out to collect. Soon companies looking to renew their business licenses first will have to obtain a certificate that confirms they have no taxes due. The measure, passed in 2007 as part of Senate Bill 30, takes effect Jan. 1. Meanwhile, since 2004, the Department of Revenue has hired three outside contractors to identify and collect unpaid and underreported taxes. Since then they have identified $51 million in revenue that the department might otherwise have missed, said spokesman David Griffith. Even with outside assistance, however, the department’s handle on tax delinquencies appears tenuous. Jim Brentlinger, who left his post as administrator of the department’s taxation bureau in November, estimated as much as $1 billion in delinquent taxes are outstanding in Missouri, though about half of that is probably too old or difficult to realistically try to collect. **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http ://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom0025) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ This is a Free Speech forum. The owner of this list assumes no responsibility for the intellectual or emotional maturity of its members. If you do not like what is being said here, filter it to trash, ignore it or leave. If you leave, learn how to do this for yourself. If you do not, you will be here forever. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Did I say Security comes form a Governance? Sorry. Security comes from a Governance. You might want to form one first. Sorry. I have been checking out Jackie's Hose Cuervo cookie Recipe. Its good. First you need to crack some nuts. Then heat a pan. Then find some salt. Don't put it on the nuts yet ! Put lots of butter on the pan , be careful not to get any on the nuts. Yet. Test the Hose Cuervo again. Then beat your nuts and butter together. I think this is best done in a pan or something. O. I have it all screwed up. Go to JackHammer and check it out. I know that you are not supposed ta beat youm nuts first. Larry The Fairtax Guy Sorry I am dyslexic as they come. I see things backwards before you see them forewords and then I switch things around while you are stand there with your good looks. In a message dated 12/19/2008 10:47:01 PM Central Standard Time, larmelton3 writes: ( Power comes from a gun. Security comes form a Governance. In a NAVY. ) Larry Melton The Fairtax Guy **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom0025) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ This is a Free Speech forum. The owner of this list assumes no responsibility for the intellectual or emotional maturity of its members. If you do not like what is being said here, filter it to trash, ignore it or leave. If you leave, learn how to do this for yourself. If you do not, you will be here forever. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Cerry Mhristmas you hracker ceads. I love you all. If I had one wish it would be that MOLICO and Ron Paul members were 100,000 and not just the 12. We are making a difference with what we have been doing even without 100,000 members. Maybe we could name ourselves the incredible 12. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year Your Friend Larry **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom0025) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ This is a Free Speech forum. The owner of this list assumes no responsibility for the intellectual or emotional maturity of its members. If you do not like what is being said here, filter it to trash, ignore it or leave. If you leave, learn how to do this for yourself. If you do not, you will be here forever. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
