Re: [Mixxx-devel] an intern program to consider

2015-11-10 Thread Owen Williams
Also remember that Outreachy specifically targets minorities and women,
who also feel like outsiders, perhaps even more than European men do :).
More people working on the project is always better, especially because
we have a lot of unfilled roles.


On Tue, 2015-11-10 at 08:56 +0200, Tuukka Pasanen wrote:
> Hello,
> If Shoutcast was only stopper then I think It's solved and let's on this 
> release. More Shoutcast work can be attached to next release if it doesn't
> get into 1.12 and yes we need more sane release schedule/system people 
> doesn't allow it's released when it's ready anymore. I would go with 
> timebase-release system it's most idiotic but working.
> 
> Attract more people for development (as we seen some have join us during 
> 1.12!) it would be marvelous even though we Europeans feel outsiders but 
> I can live with that.
> 
> Tuukka
> 
> 06.11.2015, 23:13, Owen Williams kirjoitti:
> > Well more students is better than none, even if they have to be in the
> > US.  Yeah I see that the current round ended.  I think they might do it
> > twice a year, so there will be one in the spring.
> >
> > On Fri, 2015-11-06 at 21:57 +0100, Daniel Schürmann wrote:
> >> Hi Owen,
> >>
> >> Interesting, unfortunately this seams to be only for US residents.
> >> The student application process has already started, so it is a bit late
> >> for this year.
> >>
> >> Do you plan to participate in the next round?
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >>
> >> Daniel
> >>
> >>
> >> Am 06.11.2015 um 18:09 schrieb Owen Williams:
> >>> Aside from Google Summer of Code there are other internship programs
> >>> that we could try to take advantage of.  For instance, Outreachy:
> >>> https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/
> >>>
> >>> It's a small program, but one that could be really useful.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
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> >>
> >
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Re: [Mixxx-devel] an intern program to consider

2015-11-09 Thread Tuukka Pasanen
Hello,
If Shoutcast was only stopper then I think It's solved and let's on this 
release. More Shoutcast work can be attached to next release if it doesn't
get into 1.12 and yes we need more sane release schedule/system people 
doesn't allow it's released when it's ready anymore. I would go with 
timebase-release system it's most idiotic but working.

Attract more people for development (as we seen some have join us during 
1.12!) it would be marvelous even though we Europeans feel outsiders but 
I can live with that.

Tuukka

06.11.2015, 23:13, Owen Williams kirjoitti:
> Well more students is better than none, even if they have to be in the
> US.  Yeah I see that the current round ended.  I think they might do it
> twice a year, so there will be one in the spring.
>
> On Fri, 2015-11-06 at 21:57 +0100, Daniel Schürmann wrote:
>> Hi Owen,
>>
>> Interesting, unfortunately this seams to be only for US residents.
>> The student application process has already started, so it is a bit late
>> for this year.
>>
>> Do you plan to participate in the next round?
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>> Am 06.11.2015 um 18:09 schrieb Owen Williams:
>>> Aside from Google Summer of Code there are other internship programs
>>> that we could try to take advantage of.  For instance, Outreachy:
>>> https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/
>>>
>>> It's a small program, but one that could be really useful.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ___
>>> Get Mixxx, the #1 Free MP3 DJ Mixing software Today
>>> http://mixxx.org
>>>
>>>
>>> Mixxx-devel mailing list
>>> Mixxx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx-devel
>>
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>>
>
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Re: [Mixxx-devel] an intern program to consider

2015-11-08 Thread Owen Williams
I thought I did address questions about what work is needed to release
1.12 in that thread you mention.  Currently the only code blocker is the
shoutcast streaming issue.  We also need to doublecheck the manual and
get translations updated.

On Fri, 2015-11-06 at 23:03 +0100, Sébastien Blaisot wrote:
> I agree with sean and what I personnally understand by "leadership" are 
> 2 things  :
> - We don't have a decision process published
> - We don't have a release management cycle published (merge window, 
> feature freeze milestone, string freeze milestone, release goals and 
> decision, ...). Actually, I think no one can tell what work is needed to 
> release 1.12
> 
> We should at least address this two things after 1.12 has landed before 
> beginning to work on the next release.
> 
> see my post to the list on 22/07/2015 19:27
> 
> All is not always about coding, we also sometimes need to take in 
> account project management.
> 
> This is my 2 cents and I would be happy to work with you on these issues.
> 
> regards,
> 
> sb
> 
> Le 06/11/2015 22:12, Owen Williams a écrit :
> > I meant that reply to go to the list
> >
> > On Fri, 2015-11-06 at 16:12 -0500, Owen Williams wrote:
> >> Well what do you mean by leadership in this case?  I do agree we have a
> >> lack of people with time to manage interns, although I've not been doing
> >> a lot of coding lately so I think I could do that next year.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, 2015-11-06 at 09:17 -0800, Sean M. Pappalardo - D.J. Pegasus
> >> wrote:
> >>> On 11/06/2015 09:09 AM, Owen Williams wrote:
>  Aside from Google Summer of Code there are other internship programs
>  that we could try to take advantage of.
> >>> Interesting. Worth looking into for sure.
> >>>
> >>> But right now, I feel like our problem is one of lack of leadership. We
> >>> can't effectively use interns if our core is lacking.
> >>>
> >>> Sincerely,
> >>> Sean M. Pappalardo
> >>> "D.J. Pegasus"
> >>> Mixxx Developer - Controller Specialist
> >>>
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
> >
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> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx-devel
> 
> 
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Re: [Mixxx-devel] an intern program to consider

2015-11-06 Thread Be
I think we can resolve these issues after the release of 1.12 and before 
the next round of Outreachy applications.

On 11/06/2015 04:03 PM, Sébastien Blaisot wrote:
>
> I agree with sean and what I personnally understand by "leadership" are
> 2 things  :
> - We don't have a decision process published
> - We don't have a release management cycle published (merge window,
> feature freeze milestone, string freeze milestone, release goals and
> decision, ...). Actually, I think no one can tell what work is needed to
> release 1.12
>
> We should at least address this two things after 1.12 has landed before
> beginning to work on the next release.
>
> see my post to the list on 22/07/2015 19:27
>
> All is not always about coding, we also sometimes need to take in
> account project management.
>
> This is my 2 cents and I would be happy to work with you on these issues.
>
> regards,
>
> sb
>
> Le 06/11/2015 22:12, Owen Williams a écrit :
>> I meant that reply to go to the list
>>
>> On Fri, 2015-11-06 at 16:12 -0500, Owen Williams wrote:
>>> Well what do you mean by leadership in this case?  I do agree we have a
>>> lack of people with time to manage interns, although I've not been doing
>>> a lot of coding lately so I think I could do that next year.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 2015-11-06 at 09:17 -0800, Sean M. Pappalardo - D.J. Pegasus
>>> wrote:
 On 11/06/2015 09:09 AM, Owen Williams wrote:
> Aside from Google Summer of Code there are other internship programs
> that we could try to take advantage of.
 Interesting. Worth looking into for sure.

 But right now, I feel like our problem is one of lack of leadership. We
 can't effectively use interns if our core is lacking.

 Sincerely,
 Sean M. Pappalardo
 "D.J. Pegasus"
 Mixxx Developer - Controller Specialist

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Re: [Mixxx-devel] an intern program to consider

2015-11-06 Thread Sébastien Blaisot

I agree with sean and what I personnally understand by "leadership" are 
2 things  :
- We don't have a decision process published
- We don't have a release management cycle published (merge window, 
feature freeze milestone, string freeze milestone, release goals and 
decision, ...). Actually, I think no one can tell what work is needed to 
release 1.12

We should at least address this two things after 1.12 has landed before 
beginning to work on the next release.

see my post to the list on 22/07/2015 19:27

All is not always about coding, we also sometimes need to take in 
account project management.

This is my 2 cents and I would be happy to work with you on these issues.

regards,

sb

Le 06/11/2015 22:12, Owen Williams a écrit :
> I meant that reply to go to the list
>
> On Fri, 2015-11-06 at 16:12 -0500, Owen Williams wrote:
>> Well what do you mean by leadership in this case?  I do agree we have a
>> lack of people with time to manage interns, although I've not been doing
>> a lot of coding lately so I think I could do that next year.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 2015-11-06 at 09:17 -0800, Sean M. Pappalardo - D.J. Pegasus
>> wrote:
>>> On 11/06/2015 09:09 AM, Owen Williams wrote:
 Aside from Google Summer of Code there are other internship programs
 that we could try to take advantage of.
>>> Interesting. Worth looking into for sure.
>>>
>>> But right now, I feel like our problem is one of lack of leadership. We
>>> can't effectively use interns if our core is lacking.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Sean M. Pappalardo
>>> "D.J. Pegasus"
>>> Mixxx Developer - Controller Specialist
>>>
>
>
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Re: [Mixxx-devel] an intern program to consider

2015-11-06 Thread Owen Williams
Well more students is better than none, even if they have to be in the
US.  Yeah I see that the current round ended.  I think they might do it
twice a year, so there will be one in the spring.

On Fri, 2015-11-06 at 21:57 +0100, Daniel Schürmann wrote:
> Hi Owen,
> 
> Interesting, unfortunately this seams to be only for US residents.
> The student application process has already started, so it is a bit late 
> for this year.
> 
> Do you plan to participate in the next round?
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Daniel
> 
> 
> Am 06.11.2015 um 18:09 schrieb Owen Williams:
> > Aside from Google Summer of Code there are other internship programs
> > that we could try to take advantage of.  For instance, Outreachy:
> > https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/
> >
> > It's a small program, but one that could be really useful.
> >
> >
> > --
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> > Get Mixxx, the #1 Free MP3 DJ Mixing software Today
> > http://mixxx.org
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Re: [Mixxx-devel] an intern program to consider

2015-11-06 Thread Owen Williams
I meant that reply to go to the list

On Fri, 2015-11-06 at 16:12 -0500, Owen Williams wrote:
> Well what do you mean by leadership in this case?  I do agree we have a
> lack of people with time to manage interns, although I've not been doing
> a lot of coding lately so I think I could do that next year.
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2015-11-06 at 09:17 -0800, Sean M. Pappalardo - D.J. Pegasus
> wrote:
> > 
> > On 11/06/2015 09:09 AM, Owen Williams wrote:
> > > Aside from Google Summer of Code there are other internship programs
> > > that we could try to take advantage of.
> > 
> > Interesting. Worth looking into for sure.
> > 
> > But right now, I feel like our problem is one of lack of leadership. We
> > can't effectively use interns if our core is lacking.
> > 
> > Sincerely,
> > Sean M. Pappalardo
> > "D.J. Pegasus"
> > Mixxx Developer - Controller Specialist
> > 
> 



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Re: [Mixxx-devel] an intern program to consider

2015-11-06 Thread Be
I was actually thinking about posting to the list about this recently. 
It would be great if Mixxx participated in Outreachy. :)

Daniel, Outreachy has two rounds each year. Mixxx could participate in 
the May-August 2016 round.

On 11/06/2015 11:09 AM, Owen Williams wrote:
> Aside from Google Summer of Code there are other internship programs
> that we could try to take advantage of.  For instance, Outreachy:
> https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/
>
> It's a small program, but one that could be really useful.
>
>
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Re: [Mixxx-devel] an intern program to consider

2015-11-06 Thread Daniel Schürmann
Hi Owen,

Interesting, unfortunately this seams to be only for US residents.
The student application process has already started, so it is a bit late 
for this year.

Do you plan to participate in the next round?

Kind regards,

Daniel


Am 06.11.2015 um 18:09 schrieb Owen Williams:
> Aside from Google Summer of Code there are other internship programs
> that we could try to take advantage of.  For instance, Outreachy:
> https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/
>
> It's a small program, but one that could be really useful.
>
>
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