[WikimediaMobile] feedback about random
[Was: iOS app feedback (via testflight)] When I first saw the Random article in Wikipedia bask in 2004 or so, I immediately though - Right, they probably added because they wanted it to look like an old-school paper encyclopedia that you can open randomly. I guess that it's not clear to all people. If I recall correctly, that button was added because there were requests for it, but was its existence ever justified? If there's interesting data about using the random button, a blog post could be published about it that would serve as the rationale for keeping the functionality. For example, that it gets people to read and click more links and maybe become editors. Also, it could be relabeled as something more fun without using the word random, which is a tad technical. The first thing that comes to my mind is I just want to read something. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore 2014-09-17 3:48 GMT+03:00 Monte Hurd mh...@wikimedia.org: We received the following feedback email through testflight: Hi, I already tested your latest updates in Wikipedia 4.0.2, and I want to give you some feedbacks : 1.) If I want to see my previous article or my next article, I don't need to press the back () button or forward () button. Instead, I can swipe my finger from the left or right side of the display. (For example, the navigation gesture in Safari) 2.) When I want to delete my saved page, the animation is a bit late. 3.) The Random button in the sidebar. Actually, I don't understand why it was made. Because, someone who opens Wikipedia, must be know what he/she looking for. So, I want to suggest to delete the Random button (*if you don't mind) That's all I want to say. And I hope to see another beta updates. Thank you. ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
Re: [WikimediaMobile] Pulling the Commons app
On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 13:32 -0700, Brion Vibber wrote: Ok, I've killed the iOS version as well. There's a Commons App product in bugzilla.wikimedia.org with 213 tickets, 82 of them open. There is also an Unofficial Apps product in Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/describecomponents.cgi?product=Unofficial%20Apps What would you like to see happen in Bugzilla? Move tickets from 'Commons App' to a new component under 'Unofficial'? All lowest priority? Should Brion really be default assignee for all those 'Unofficial' tickets? andre -- Andre Klapper | Wikimedia Bugwrangler http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
Re: [WikimediaMobile] feedback about random
Amir E. Aharoni, 17/09/2014 08:22: If I recall correctly, that button was added because there were requests for it, but was its existence ever justified? If there's interesting data about using the random button, http://stats.grok.se/en/latest30/Special:Random Do you really need more? Nemo ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
Re: [WikimediaMobile] feedback about random
Amir E. Aharoni, 17/09/2014 10:05: WAT. Are these millions and millions of real people clicking Random article all the time? Not search engines or bots or something? I have no reason to believe it's an especially inflated number: Special:Random is the most common tool for curious users in search of something to read or edit, together with watchlist (which anons don't have) and recent changes. Disbelievers can do some appreciated additional research though. :-) Do taps on Random article in the apps count as hits to Special:Random? Not for stats.grok.se, for sure. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Killiondude/stats#What_about_mobile.3F Nemo ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
[WikimediaMobile] Wikipedia App (iOS) beta tester numbers and feedback
In the last 2 days we went from 110 signups to 336! Of these, 143 people have actually installed the latest beta, up from a previous high of 20. I've also received multiple feedback emails through the testflight system. Dan, I've added you as a leader in testflight so hopefully these feedback emails will go to you as well. Is this ok? Other thoughts on where to forward feedback email? In the mean time, here's the feedback from yesterday: - I went to Article History and tried to click on an article Editor's name to see articles they have also edited, and this functionality is not yet there. I have no understandable way to Mark an article for watching (for web WP usage) - will this be implemented? I also do not see articles i am already watching from The web WP Are These saved for offline use articles somehow saved to web WP? I think the top-right article summary button could show The amount of languages The article is available in and allow to choose when 26 other languages is tapped, f.ex. Editing a segment of an article could allow for a toolbar above The editor, having The usual set of functionality or a subset of them (link with text, bold, list, reference generation) Tapping on this: ↑ a b Yle, uutiset viitat (Am referring to a and b) should modify Back-button functionality so that can get back to references by tapping on Back. Also, i am seeing hugely garbled text pasted now, see attached screenshot I.e. Would be nice to get a non-formatted copy-to-clipboard out of WP Share button on lower-right could have AirPrint? Hmm. I will attach two crashlogs that occurred while searching for a WP article in the next Mail. Sent from some iDevice. Written by Esa. Great update, Can i translate the app into arabic language ? Feras Younis Qrinawi Hey I have the TestFlight iOS 8 app how could I transfer the Wikipedia App inside the TestFlight App? Just from using this to view 2 articles, Infobox placement is a bit problematic. On an iPod 5, the page Carboxynorspermidine decarboxylase is split up by the Infobox; half the equation seems to be on either side of it. (Note: ^ this last one is from the previous beta) ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
Re: [WikimediaMobile] Wikipedia App (iOS) beta tester numbers and feedback
Great update, Can i translate the app into arabic language ? Feras Younis Qrinawi He-he, a couple of years ago I was the crazy guy who read much of the copious feedback about the old apps. I received several questions like this one, and I used it as an opportunity to acquire several new translatewiki translators, and it actually worked in a few cases. If it's possible to reply, the link for translation is this: https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:Translate?filter=action=translategroup=out-wikimedia-mobile-wikipedia-ios-0-alllanguage=ar (For other languages just change the language code in the end, but first make sure that iOS actually supports this language.) A translatewiki.net account must be create through the https://translatewiki.net/ main page first. I am available for more assistance. And of course the About page in the iOS app should have a link to translatewiki, like the Android app [ https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70946 ]. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore 2014-09-17 20:07 GMT+03:00 Monte Hurd mh...@wikimedia.org: In the last 2 days we went from 110 signups to 336! Of these, 143 people have actually installed the latest beta, up from a previous high of 20. I've also received multiple feedback emails through the testflight system. Dan, I've added you as a leader in testflight so hopefully these feedback emails will go to you as well. Is this ok? Other thoughts on where to forward feedback email? In the mean time, here's the feedback from yesterday: - I went to Article History and tried to click on an article Editor's name to see articles they have also edited, and this functionality is not yet there. I have no understandable way to Mark an article for watching (for web WP usage) - will this be implemented? I also do not see articles i am already watching from The web WP Are These saved for offline use articles somehow saved to web WP? I think the top-right article summary button could show The amount of languages The article is available in and allow to choose when 26 other languages is tapped, f.ex. Editing a segment of an article could allow for a toolbar above The editor, having The usual set of functionality or a subset of them (link with text, bold, list, reference generation) Tapping on this: ↑ a b Yle, uutiset viitat (Am referring to a and b) should modify Back-button functionality so that can get back to references by tapping on Back. Also, i am seeing hugely garbled text pasted now, see attached screenshot I.e. Would be nice to get a non-formatted copy-to-clipboard out of WP Share button on lower-right could have AirPrint? Hmm. I will attach two crashlogs that occurred while searching for a WP article in the next Mail. Sent from some iDevice. Written by Esa. Great update, Can i translate the app into arabic language ? Feras Younis Qrinawi Hey I have the TestFlight iOS 8 app how could I transfer the Wikipedia App inside the TestFlight App? Just from using this to view 2 articles, Infobox placement is a bit problematic. On an iPod 5, the page Carboxynorspermidine decarboxylase is split up by the Infobox; half the equation seems to be on either side of it. (Note: ^ this last one is from the previous beta) ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
Re: [WikimediaMobile] Wikipedia App (iOS) beta tester numbers and feedback
Thanks Amir! I will forward the info! On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Great update, Can i translate the app into arabic language ? Feras Younis Qrinawi He-he, a couple of years ago I was the crazy guy who read much of the copious feedback about the old apps. I received several questions like this one, and I used it as an opportunity to acquire several new translatewiki translators, and it actually worked in a few cases. If it's possible to reply, the link for translation is this: https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:Translate?filter=action=translategroup=out-wikimedia-mobile-wikipedia-ios-0-alllanguage=ar (For other languages just change the language code in the end, but first make sure that iOS actually supports this language.) A translatewiki.net account must be create through the https://translatewiki.net/ main page first. I am available for more assistance. And of course the About page in the iOS app should have a link to translatewiki, like the Android app [ https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70946 ]. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore 2014-09-17 20:07 GMT+03:00 Monte Hurd mh...@wikimedia.org: In the last 2 days we went from 110 signups to 336! Of these, 143 people have actually installed the latest beta, up from a previous high of 20. I've also received multiple feedback emails through the testflight system. Dan, I've added you as a leader in testflight so hopefully these feedback emails will go to you as well. Is this ok? Other thoughts on where to forward feedback email? In the mean time, here's the feedback from yesterday: - I went to Article History and tried to click on an article Editor's name to see articles they have also edited, and this functionality is not yet there. I have no understandable way to Mark an article for watching (for web WP usage) - will this be implemented? I also do not see articles i am already watching from The web WP Are These saved for offline use articles somehow saved to web WP? I think the top-right article summary button could show The amount of languages The article is available in and allow to choose when 26 other languages is tapped, f.ex. Editing a segment of an article could allow for a toolbar above The editor, having The usual set of functionality or a subset of them (link with text, bold, list, reference generation) Tapping on this: ↑ a b Yle, uutiset viitat (Am referring to a and b) should modify Back-button functionality so that can get back to references by tapping on Back. Also, i am seeing hugely garbled text pasted now, see attached screenshot I.e. Would be nice to get a non-formatted copy-to-clipboard out of WP Share button on lower-right could have AirPrint? Hmm. I will attach two crashlogs that occurred while searching for a WP article in the next Mail. Sent from some iDevice. Written by Esa. Great update, Can i translate the app into arabic language ? Feras Younis Qrinawi Hey I have the TestFlight iOS 8 app how could I transfer the Wikipedia App inside the TestFlight App? Just from using this to view 2 articles, Infobox placement is a bit problematic. On an iPod 5, the page Carboxynorspermidine decarboxylase is split up by the Infobox; half the equation seems to be on either side of it. (Note: ^ this last one is from the previous beta) ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
Re: [WikimediaMobile] Wikipedia App (iOS) beta tester numbers and feedback
Friendly reminder - people probably assume that this feedback is private[1]; try to crop out their names before posting their feedback publicly. Luis [1] And I am curious about the TestFlight privacy policy, which is currently 404: https://testflightapp.com/privacy/ On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Monte Hurd mh...@wikimedia.org wrote: In the last 2 days we went from 110 signups to 336! Of these, 143 people have actually installed the latest beta, up from a previous high of 20. I've also received multiple feedback emails through the testflight system. Dan, I've added you as a leader in testflight so hopefully these feedback emails will go to you as well. Is this ok? Other thoughts on where to forward feedback email? In the mean time, here's the feedback from yesterday: - I went to Article History and tried to click on an article Editor's name to see articles they have also edited, and this functionality is not yet there. I have no understandable way to Mark an article for watching (for web WP usage) - will this be implemented? I also do not see articles i am already watching from The web WP Are These saved for offline use articles somehow saved to web WP? I think the top-right article summary button could show The amount of languages The article is available in and allow to choose when 26 other languages is tapped, f.ex. Editing a segment of an article could allow for a toolbar above The editor, having The usual set of functionality or a subset of them (link with text, bold, list, reference generation) Tapping on this: ↑ a b Yle, uutiset viitat (Am referring to a and b) should modify Back-button functionality so that can get back to references by tapping on Back. Also, i am seeing hugely garbled text pasted now, see attached screenshot I.e. Would be nice to get a non-formatted copy-to-clipboard out of WP Share button on lower-right could have AirPrint? Hmm. I will attach two crashlogs that occurred while searching for a WP article in the next Mail. Sent from some iDevice. Written by Esa. Great update, Can i translate the app into arabic language ? Feras Younis Qrinawi Hey I have the TestFlight iOS 8 app how could I transfer the Wikipedia App inside the TestFlight App? Just from using this to view 2 articles, Infobox placement is a bit problematic. On an iPod 5, the page Carboxynorspermidine decarboxylase is split up by the Infobox; half the equation seems to be on either side of it. (Note: ^ this last one is from the previous beta) ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l -- Luis Villa Deputy General Counsel Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext. 6810 *This message may be confidential or legally privileged. If you have received it by accident, please delete it and let us know about the mistake. As an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation, for legal/ethical reasons I cannot give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity. For more on what this means, please see our legal disclaimer https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Legal_Disclaimer.* ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
Re: [WikimediaMobile] Mobile App Retrospective Notes
Hi all, Just a friendly reminder that our App team retrospective is tomorrow. Please review our action items from the last retrospective: = Actions/Further Discussion = *Set up quarterly unstructured sprint [Kristen/Dan] *Give Vibha Moiz iTunes account login access [Tomasz]; Waiting on Design iTunes account [Vibha] DONE *Give Vibha Moiz access to data about user actions [Dan] *Set up monthly apps data review meeting [Dan/Vibha] *Blog post and social media to recruit testers [Monte/Vibha/Moiz] *Explore paid testing services [Tomasz] -Kristen ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
Re: [WikimediaMobile] feedback about random
Data: http://mobile-reportcard.wmflabs.org/graphs/ui-daily After home, the random menu item is the most clicked button. I remember analysing the data once and seeing that one user hit random 100 times in a day. I agree however that it is technical. It would be good to rebrand this to make it more friendly. Personally I'd love to see us combine nearby, random into some kind of explore feature. We can do so much better than a button that just takes you to a random page. On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 1:21 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Amir E. Aharoni, 17/09/2014 10:05: WAT. Are these millions and millions of real people clicking Random article all the time? Not search engines or bots or something? I have no reason to believe it's an especially inflated number: Special:Random is the most common tool for curious users in search of something to read or edit, together with watchlist (which anons don't have) and recent changes. Disbelievers can do some appreciated additional research though. :-) Do taps on Random article in the apps count as hits to Special:Random? Not for stats.grok.se, for sure. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Killiondude/stats#What_about_mobile.3F Nemo ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l -- Jon Robson * http://jonrobson.me.uk * https://www.facebook.com/jonrobson * @rakugojon ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l