Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Apps] Wikipedia Lite app?

2015-03-03 Thread Toby Negrin
Hi Dan -- did you get a chance to write up your findings?

thanks,

-Toby

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Tomasz Finc tf...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 I'll be eager to see you guys write up your findings after the spikes are
 over.

 thanks for moving that forward.

 --tomasz

 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 3:05 AM, Gautam Chandna gaut...@opera.com wrote:
  OEMs care about the size of their OS, as this is stored in a restricted
  read-only area (unless a device is rooted). Once the device is running,
  those limitations don't apply as an app has tons of space to update
 itself.
 
  Quite like the network installer concept for desktop applications, OEMs
  prefer if the pre-install is a small package that in itself doesn't
  necessarily do much other than download the real app.
 
 
 
  On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:48 AM, Yuri Astrakhan 
 yastrak...@wikimedia.org
  wrote:
 
  Don't preload apps still get over-the-air updates, often the whole app
  re-download?
 
  On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:39 AM, Carolynne Schloeder
  cschloe...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 
  Hi, yes app size and yes optimization :-)
 
  App size does matter
  OEM's are sensitive to the size of the app for preload. They were
  satisfied with our last version that was under 3MB; we'll find out
 what they
  will tolerate. And we will likely push appstore promotion as part of
 our
  deep dive.[1]
 
  Couple of thoughts on optimization:
  Yuri already worked to compress images on mobile web, only deployed on
  zero partners so far. Rolling out the image compression could be an
 easy
  start to reduce the page load.
 
  In a couple of weeks, we will get into Facebook/Ericsson's network
  simulation lab in Menlo Park, where we can experience our UX on low end
  devices and slow networks.
 
  Dan and Maryana, can you help me organize who should go to the lab?
 
  Thanks --
 
  Carolynne
 
  [1] The Wikipedia Zero team is getting together with product, UX, comms
  and GLEE to go deep in one country, to understand the context for
 Wikipedia
  usage and how we can unlock growth in underserved market segments -
 beyond
  just making data free. More info in our QR notes.
 
 
  On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org
 wrote:
 
  On 1 February 2015 at 14:48, Toby Negrin tneg...@wikimedia.org
 wrote:
 
  Dan -- can you please limit the scope to sizing the android app? I
  think that's more relevant to reaching people in the developing
 world.
 
 
  I think that depends. In a world where we're focussing on preloads,
 the
  size of the app is pretty immaterial as the user isn't paying the
 cost for
  downloading it. In that world, the best optimisations to make are
 probably
  reducing network traffic and improving performance on slower devices,
 things
  where there's lot of room for improvement in our code base. Also, our
  Android app is also an order of magnitude smaller than Facebook's
 Android
  app, so that's less of an issue for us. Facebook evidently decided to
 TACKLE
  ALL THE THINGS with Facebook Lite.
 
  Also, can you see what percent of our GS traffic uses 2.3? Google has
  it at about 10% globally but we need to understand our target market
 better.
  You might also want to check in with your new contact at App Annie
 to see if
  they have useful GS data.
 
 
  Absolutely.
 
  Dan
 
  --
  Dan Garry
  Associate Product Manager, Mobile Apps
  Wikimedia Foundation
 
 
 
 
  --
  Carolynne Schloeder
  Director Global Mobile Partnerships
  Wikimedia Foundation
  +14154077071
  skype: cschloeder
 
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[WikimediaMobile] Android: evaluating third party libraries

2015-03-03 Thread Bernd Sitzmann
Since I'm evaluation third party libraries for onboarding, I thought it
would be good to create a checklist[1], similar to what the iOS engineers
did.

If you'd like to propose changes to that checklist you can either add
something to the talk page or reply to this mail.

Thanks,
Bernd

[1]
https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_Apps/Team/Android/Third_Party_Libraries
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