Re: [WikimediaMobile] [reading-wmf] Wikipedia article previews in Kindle app
Great find! Since we're mentioning similar features, the Google Dictionary
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/google-dictionary-by-goog/mgijmajocgfcbeboacabfgobmjgjcoja
Chromium
/ Chrome extension (by Google) performs a similar function.
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--stephen
On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 2:04 AM, S Page sp...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 10:45 PM, Dmitry Brant dbr...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
(I wonder what API they're using?)
api.log logs all API requests, but doesn't include referer.
Cross-referencing warnings in api-feature-usage (below) suggests at least
some requests like
action=query format=json titles=dotage redirects= prop=revisions
rvprop=content rvlimit=1 rvsection=0
followed by
action=parse format=json title=Dotage
text=%7B%7Bwiktionary%20redirect%7D%7D%7B%7BShort%20pages%20monitor%7D%7D
(the Dotage article returns a rather unhelpful {{wiktionary
redirect}}{{Short pages monitor}}).
So Kindle sometimes retrieves the wikitext of the zero section of the
article, then requests a parse of it. Using TextExtracts would be so much
better, prop=extractsexintro= would give similar info in a single API call.
On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 7:39 AM, Bernd Sitzmann be...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Nice find. I also like being able to swipe those cards left/right between
different information sources. Looks like depending on the selected words
it's: Dictionary, Wikipedia, Translation
That is awesome. Link preview and Hovercards should do the same, we do
little to surface content in the non-pedia wikis beyond {{Sister project
links}} at the bottom of some articles. (Hovercards would have a row of
icons as well as the swipe gesture).
Which raises the question where should I phile a Reading proposal like
that, rather than for each app's implementation of link preview and
hovercards?
[Apple's OS-level integration]]
Link preview and Hovercards work on a link. But wikis intentionally only
link the first use of a term and don't link every term per MOS:
overlinking
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Linking#Overlinking,
which means I often scroll backwards searching for the first mention of a
term. It would be nice if there were an affordance to be able to lookup any
text, even if not explicitly linked.
Maybe WMF should offer its own browser- or OS-level integration, pushing
the reading experience way beyond our sites.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tools/Browser_tools lists various
browser addons, such as Lookup companion for Wiki
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/lookup-companion-for-wiki/dhgpkiiipkgmckicafkhcihkcldbdeej?hl=en
that do this. Meanwhile
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tools#Searching has Download
1-Click Answers Wikipedia Edition for Windows (beta) and then Alt-Click on
any word in any program on your screen for instant, accurate facts. Who
knew?!, makes me want to bust out Windows 2000 :)
On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Joaquin Oltra Hernandez
jhernan...@wikimedia.org wrote:
I wonder what will happen if one of our breaking api changes [breaks] one
of these queries... They are probably running a proxy cached service to
avoid any of those problems.
Good point. I'll forward to Kourosh, who deals with partnerships like
this, and we can only hope people writing all these tools are on some
mailing list.
fluorine:/a/mw-logs/api-feature-usage.log has a number of
2015-06-07 06:26:39 mw1232 enwiki api-feature-usage INFO:
action=query!rawcontinue!continue from user agents containing Kindle.
ApiQuery.php logs this along with the warning in the API result Formatting
of continuation data will be changing soon. ...
So I hope someone notices the warnings in API responses.
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Re: [WikimediaMobile] [reading-wmf] Wikipedia article previews in Kindle app
On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 1:04 AM, S Page sp...@wikimedia.org wrote: Maybe WMF should offer its own browser- or OS-level integration, pushing the reading experience way beyond our sites. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tools/Browser_tools lists various browser addons, such as Lookup companion for Wiki https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/lookup-companion-for-wiki/dhgpkiiipkgmckicafkhcihkcldbdeej?hl=en that do this. Meanwhile https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tools#Searching has Download 1-Click Answers Wikipedia Edition for Windows (beta) and then Alt-Click on any word in any program on your screen for instant, accurate facts. Who knew?!, makes me want to bust out Windows 2000 :) A WMF-maintained self-contained javascript library to fetch Wikipedia summaries / Wikidata descriptions / Wikitionary translations (and maybe even Commons images) for a given string and display them in a configurable popup window would be awesome. That could then be used as a bookmarklet, in browser extensions (most of those are written in JS so they just need a trivial wrapper around the library), or in web pages as a functionality provided by the site owner. ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
Re: [WikimediaMobile] [reading-wmf] Wikipedia article previews in Kindle app
+ Kouroush A summary of ideas: *WP as destination:* -Sister projects swipable from cards -WMF owned OS integration/browser add-ons *WP as platform:* -API for 'cards' on topics/JS library -Make sure API changes aren't breaking experience for: apple, google, amazon? -Help kindle optimize their calls -Key partner list...do we have this for major integrations? These are great ideas, and I don't want to lose them. What should go on the brainstorming etherboard for Q1 https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Q1_Readership_Brainstorm and what should go elsewhere (and how do we make sure elsewhere isn't purgatory). -J On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Gergo Tisza gti...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 1:04 AM, S Page sp...@wikimedia.org wrote: Maybe WMF should offer its own browser- or OS-level integration, pushing the reading experience way beyond our sites. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tools/Browser_tools lists various browser addons, such as Lookup companion for Wiki https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/lookup-companion-for-wiki/dhgpkiiipkgmckicafkhcihkcldbdeej?hl=en that do this. Meanwhile https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tools#Searching has Download 1-Click Answers Wikipedia Edition for Windows (beta) and then Alt-Click on any word in any program on your screen for instant, accurate facts. Who knew?!, makes me want to bust out Windows 2000 :) A WMF-maintained self-contained javascript library to fetch Wikipedia summaries / Wikidata descriptions / Wikitionary translations (and maybe even Commons images) for a given string and display them in a configurable popup window would be awesome. That could then be used as a bookmarklet, in browser extensions (most of those are written in JS so they just need a trivial wrapper around the library), or in web pages as a functionality provided by the site owner. ___ reading-wmf mailing list reading-...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/reading-wmf ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
Re: [WikimediaMobile] [reading-wmf] Wikipedia article previews in Kindle app
FWIW, they are also doing basically the same thing in the e-ink hardware Kindles. On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Dmitry Brant dbr...@wikimedia.org wrote: +mobile-l On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Adam Baso ab...@wikimedia.org wrote: Okay to move this to mobile-l? On Friday, June 5, 2015, Brian Gerstle bgers...@wikimedia.org wrote: While they strip out links/citations, they do preserve text formatting (italics bold). On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Bernd Sitzmann be...@wikimedia.org wrote: Nice find. I also like being able to swipe those cards left/right between different information sources. Looks like depending on the selected words it's: Dictionary, Wikipedia, Translation On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 10:45 PM, Dmitry Brant dbr...@wikimedia.org wrote: I was using the Kindle app on the plane today, and I noticed a few interesting things, including this: device-2015-06-04-225651.png https://docs.google.com/a/wikimedia.org/file/d/0BzcksMsMNpY1SzA3bHY4WF9hM1U/edit?usp=drive_web When highlighting a word or phrase, the user is presented with a definition of the word from Wikipedia. The content is presented in a native component, with only the first section of text shown (all links, references, infoboxes, etc. are stripped out). (I wonder what API they're using?) It looks very similar to the link preview prototypes we've been developing in our apps, and it's very telling that the Kindle app has such a feature, since it helps emphasize the usefulness of this feature in any kind of reader app. Perhaps, in addition to link previews, we may also want to think about allowing users to highlight words and show definitions (from Wiktionary?), pronunciations, translations, etc... p.s. I was able to get the Kindle app to crash by clicking a link inside one of the Wikipedia previews that wasn't stripped out correctly. In other words, no app is safe from the edge cases of wikitext! ___ reading-wmf mailing list reading-...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/reading-wmf ___ reading-wmf mailing list reading-...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/reading-wmf -- EN Wikipedia user page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Brian.gerstle IRC: bgerstle ___ reading-wmf mailing list reading-...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/reading-wmf ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l -- Luis Villa Sr. Director of Community Engagement Wikimedia Foundation *Working towards a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge.* ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
Re: [WikimediaMobile] [reading-wmf] Wikipedia article previews in Kindle app
+mobile-l On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Adam Baso ab...@wikimedia.org wrote: Okay to move this to mobile-l? On Friday, June 5, 2015, Brian Gerstle bgers...@wikimedia.org wrote: While they strip out links/citations, they do preserve text formatting (italics bold). On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Bernd Sitzmann be...@wikimedia.org wrote: Nice find. I also like being able to swipe those cards left/right between different information sources. Looks like depending on the selected words it's: Dictionary, Wikipedia, Translation On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 10:45 PM, Dmitry Brant dbr...@wikimedia.org wrote: I was using the Kindle app on the plane today, and I noticed a few interesting things, including this: device-2015-06-04-225651.png https://docs.google.com/a/wikimedia.org/file/d/0BzcksMsMNpY1SzA3bHY4WF9hM1U/edit?usp=drive_web When highlighting a word or phrase, the user is presented with a definition of the word from Wikipedia. The content is presented in a native component, with only the first section of text shown (all links, references, infoboxes, etc. are stripped out). (I wonder what API they're using?) It looks very similar to the link preview prototypes we've been developing in our apps, and it's very telling that the Kindle app has such a feature, since it helps emphasize the usefulness of this feature in any kind of reader app. Perhaps, in addition to link previews, we may also want to think about allowing users to highlight words and show definitions (from Wiktionary?), pronunciations, translations, etc... p.s. I was able to get the Kindle app to crash by clicking a link inside one of the Wikipedia previews that wasn't stripped out correctly. In other words, no app is safe from the edge cases of wikitext! ___ reading-wmf mailing list reading-...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/reading-wmf ___ reading-wmf mailing list reading-...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/reading-wmf -- EN Wikipedia user page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Brian.gerstle IRC: bgerstle ___ reading-wmf mailing list reading-...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/reading-wmf ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
Re: [WikimediaMobile] [reading-wmf] Wikipedia article previews in Kindle app
Sure! When I highlight the word London, the Wikipedia preview contains an IPA block that has a link which, when pressed, causes the app to crash. On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Adam Baso ab...@wikimedia.org wrote: Thanks. Want me to reach out to Amazon about that crash condition so they can patch it? On Friday, June 5, 2015, Dmitry Brant dbr...@wikimedia.org wrote: +mobile-l On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Adam Baso ab...@wikimedia.org wrote: Okay to move this to mobile-l? On Friday, June 5, 2015, Brian Gerstle bgers...@wikimedia.org wrote: While they strip out links/citations, they do preserve text formatting (italics bold). On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Bernd Sitzmann be...@wikimedia.org wrote: Nice find. I also like being able to swipe those cards left/right between different information sources. Looks like depending on the selected words it's: Dictionary, Wikipedia, Translation On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 10:45 PM, Dmitry Brant dbr...@wikimedia.org wrote: I was using the Kindle app on the plane today, and I noticed a few interesting things, including this: device-2015-06-04-225651.png https://docs.google.com/a/wikimedia.org/file/d/0BzcksMsMNpY1SzA3bHY4WF9hM1U/edit?usp=drive_web When highlighting a word or phrase, the user is presented with a definition of the word from Wikipedia. The content is presented in a native component, with only the first section of text shown (all links, references, infoboxes, etc. are stripped out). (I wonder what API they're using?) It looks very similar to the link preview prototypes we've been developing in our apps, and it's very telling that the Kindle app has such a feature, since it helps emphasize the usefulness of this feature in any kind of reader app. Perhaps, in addition to link previews, we may also want to think about allowing users to highlight words and show definitions (from Wiktionary?), pronunciations, translations, etc... p.s. I was able to get the Kindle app to crash by clicking a link inside one of the Wikipedia previews that wasn't stripped out correctly. In other words, no app is safe from the edge cases of wikitext! ___ reading-wmf mailing list reading-...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/reading-wmf ___ reading-wmf mailing list reading-...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/reading-wmf -- EN Wikipedia user page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Brian.gerstle IRC: bgerstle ___ reading-wmf mailing list reading-...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/reading-wmf ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
