Re: [WikimediaMobile] Creating a shell app to house Wikidata games

[Luis Villa]

On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Maryana Pinchuk 
wrote:

> And that's just the Product/Design piece – in addition to implementing
> visual design/UI improvements, I imagine there would also be some technical
> hurdles like doing a spike around Magnus's codebase to ensure we didn't
> melt a game by sending (potentially) hundreds of thousands of people into
> it all at once; finding a way to hook into CentralAuth/OAuth to ensure
> these edits are attributed to logged-in users; etc.


I hate to chime in with a "me too" but a reminder that legal also has some
concerns around the TOU/CC here as well- how are they presented? when are
they agreed to? if we build a standard "shell" that many people can
use/experiment with, how do we make sure the fun/new/cool stuff maintains
the same licensing integrity people expect from the main website/existing
apps?

Nothing we can't resolve (and hopefully nothing we can't resolve quickly!)
but please do keep in mind as people are experimenting and thinking about
things.

Luis "wet blanket" Villa


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Re: [WikimediaMobile] Creating a shell app to house Wikidata games

[Jon Robson]

yup I'd been meaning to chip in but I echo everything Monte says.
On 13 Aug 2014 11:57, "Vibha Bamba"  wrote:

> My two cents - Games should be integrated.
> I don't endorse the idea of having to go a place and create an experience
> so disconnected that many readers may never find it.
> Discovering actions in the process of reading and exploring Wikipedia is
> what creates serendipity.
>
> 
> Vibha Bamba
> Senior Designer | WMF Design
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Maryana Pinchuk 
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 4:24 AM, Dan Garry  wrote:
>>
>>> On 10 August 2014 08:34, Monte Hurd  wrote:

 The existing app also has a flood of users based on name recognition
 alone. Although I suppose we could call it "Wikipedia Games"...

>>>
>>> That's an idea worth exploring. Having a "Games" button in the left nav,
>>> that when tapped launches the "Wikipedia Games" app which has a collection
>>> of different games you can play. We know we have tons of people interacting
>>> with the left nav, so there's no worries about discoverability. The app
>>> would start a shell which contains many separate submodules, each of them a
>>> game developed by a different group. On the user-facing end, it'd be a big
>>> list of games that people could play to help Wikipedia! Our work would be
>>> to create this shell. Then we can even make our own games to plug in to it!
>>>
>>> There are benefits of this:
>>>
>>>- There will be less concerns about the games "bloating" the app.
>>>The main app will continue to be lean and lightweight.
>>>- It's a great framework for volunteers to build out games to be
>>>included in the official games app.
>>>- As we would have +2 in the repo for the app, we would still have
>>>quality control of what goes in the app.
>>>
>>> This does not preclude us from incorporating one or two games, like the
>>> Wikidata label thing that Mobile Web is doing, into the main app.
>>>
>>> The question is, what is required from us to make this happen? I think
>>> it would be worth us chatting briefly when we're all back from Wikimania to
>>> define the minimal viable product for this, to assess how achievable it is
>>> for us to work on it, and see where it fits into our priorities.
>>>
>>
>> I agree with Monte that, while these are cool ideas to explore in the
>> future, now might not be the time to dive too deeply into them.
>>
>> If I understand the original proposal correctly, the idea was to add a
>> launch-point somewhere in the Wikipedia app that would simply take you to
>> the mobile view of Magnus's games (and potentially any new
>> volunteer-created games that were developed in the future) – however, it's
>> important to remember that the currently existing Wikidata games aren't
>> formatted for mobile and may not necessarily make sense in the mobile
>> context. At minimum, an MVP would need some design work to ensure the UX of
>> the games isn't broken, and some selection and special-casing of games that
>> are appropriate for mobile users.
>>
>> And that's just the Product/Design piece – in addition to implementing
>> visual design/UI improvements, I imagine there would also be some technical
>> hurdles like doing a spike around Magnus's codebase to ensure we didn't
>> melt a game by sending (potentially) hundreds of thousands of people into
>> it all at once; finding a way to hook into CentralAuth/OAuth to ensure
>> these edits are attributed to logged-in users; etc. If you factor in some
>> analytics to determine how people are making it through the funnel, the
>> inevitable round of design and UX refinements, potentially figuring out how
>> to throttle the feature to avoid too many bad edits or edit conflicts...
>> you're talking potentially a quarter's worth of work.
>>
>> But the main concern for me isn't so much the workload this would
>> introduce as the fact that this workload would be done without the initial
>> validation of whether our app audience (still primarily readers, but also
>> probably a lot of editors who don't necessarily know that much about
>> Wikidata) would even be interested in/understand these games. Our initial
>> user testing of the first WikiTinder prototype showed that we'll need to
>> think hard about how to frame this feature to users in a way that a) they
>> understand, and b) provides them with sustained value, that proverbial
>> "a-ha!" moment – because it's pretty clear from the reactions we got that
>> just throwing people at the experience only works for the tiny subset of
>> users who already know what they're doing and is potentially very
>> off-putting/scary to those who don't.
>>
>> I think that through WikiTinder work over the coming months, the Mobile
>> Web team will have a much clearer idea of whether and how this can be done,
>> and this knowledge can help guide how we think of the Wikidata games app
>> experience if/when we choose to tackle it.
>>
>> --
>> Maryana Pinchuk
>> Product M

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Creating a shell app to house Wikidata games

[Vibha Bamba]

My two cents - Games should be integrated.
I don't endorse the idea of having to go a place and create an experience
so disconnected that many readers may never find it.
Discovering actions in the process of reading and exploring Wikipedia is
what creates serendipity.


Vibha Bamba
Senior Designer | WMF Design








On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Maryana Pinchuk 
wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 4:24 AM, Dan Garry  wrote:
>
>> On 10 August 2014 08:34, Monte Hurd  wrote:
>>>
>>> The existing app also has a flood of users based on name recognition
>>> alone. Although I suppose we could call it "Wikipedia Games"...
>>>
>>
>> That's an idea worth exploring. Having a "Games" button in the left nav,
>> that when tapped launches the "Wikipedia Games" app which has a collection
>> of different games you can play. We know we have tons of people interacting
>> with the left nav, so there's no worries about discoverability. The app
>> would start a shell which contains many separate submodules, each of them a
>> game developed by a different group. On the user-facing end, it'd be a big
>> list of games that people could play to help Wikipedia! Our work would be
>> to create this shell. Then we can even make our own games to plug in to it!
>>
>> There are benefits of this:
>>
>>- There will be less concerns about the games "bloating" the app. The
>>main app will continue to be lean and lightweight.
>>- It's a great framework for volunteers to build out games to be
>>included in the official games app.
>>- As we would have +2 in the repo for the app, we would still have
>>quality control of what goes in the app.
>>
>> This does not preclude us from incorporating one or two games, like the
>> Wikidata label thing that Mobile Web is doing, into the main app.
>>
>> The question is, what is required from us to make this happen? I think it
>> would be worth us chatting briefly when we're all back from Wikimania to
>> define the minimal viable product for this, to assess how achievable it is
>> for us to work on it, and see where it fits into our priorities.
>>
>
> I agree with Monte that, while these are cool ideas to explore in the
> future, now might not be the time to dive too deeply into them.
>
> If I understand the original proposal correctly, the idea was to add a
> launch-point somewhere in the Wikipedia app that would simply take you to
> the mobile view of Magnus's games (and potentially any new
> volunteer-created games that were developed in the future) – however, it's
> important to remember that the currently existing Wikidata games aren't
> formatted for mobile and may not necessarily make sense in the mobile
> context. At minimum, an MVP would need some design work to ensure the UX of
> the games isn't broken, and some selection and special-casing of games that
> are appropriate for mobile users.
>
> And that's just the Product/Design piece – in addition to implementing
> visual design/UI improvements, I imagine there would also be some technical
> hurdles like doing a spike around Magnus's codebase to ensure we didn't
> melt a game by sending (potentially) hundreds of thousands of people into
> it all at once; finding a way to hook into CentralAuth/OAuth to ensure
> these edits are attributed to logged-in users; etc. If you factor in some
> analytics to determine how people are making it through the funnel, the
> inevitable round of design and UX refinements, potentially figuring out how
> to throttle the feature to avoid too many bad edits or edit conflicts...
> you're talking potentially a quarter's worth of work.
>
> But the main concern for me isn't so much the workload this would
> introduce as the fact that this workload would be done without the initial
> validation of whether our app audience (still primarily readers, but also
> probably a lot of editors who don't necessarily know that much about
> Wikidata) would even be interested in/understand these games. Our initial
> user testing of the first WikiTinder prototype showed that we'll need to
> think hard about how to frame this feature to users in a way that a) they
> understand, and b) provides them with sustained value, that proverbial
> "a-ha!" moment – because it's pretty clear from the reactions we got that
> just throwing people at the experience only works for the tiny subset of
> users who already know what they're doing and is potentially very
> off-putting/scary to those who don't.
>
> I think that through WikiTinder work over the coming months, the Mobile
> Web team will have a much clearer idea of whether and how this can be done,
> and this knowledge can help guide how we think of the Wikidata games app
> experience if/when we choose to tackle it.
>
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Re: [WikimediaMobile] Creating a shell app to house Wikidata games

[Maryana Pinchuk]

On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 4:24 AM, Dan Garry  wrote:

> On 10 August 2014 08:34, Monte Hurd  wrote:
>>
>> The existing app also has a flood of users based on name recognition
>> alone. Although I suppose we could call it "Wikipedia Games"...
>>
>
> That's an idea worth exploring. Having a "Games" button in the left nav,
> that when tapped launches the "Wikipedia Games" app which has a collection
> of different games you can play. We know we have tons of people interacting
> with the left nav, so there's no worries about discoverability. The app
> would start a shell which contains many separate submodules, each of them a
> game developed by a different group. On the user-facing end, it'd be a big
> list of games that people could play to help Wikipedia! Our work would be
> to create this shell. Then we can even make our own games to plug in to it!
>
> There are benefits of this:
>
>- There will be less concerns about the games "bloating" the app. The
>main app will continue to be lean and lightweight.
>- It's a great framework for volunteers to build out games to be
>included in the official games app.
>- As we would have +2 in the repo for the app, we would still have
>quality control of what goes in the app.
>
> This does not preclude us from incorporating one or two games, like the
> Wikidata label thing that Mobile Web is doing, into the main app.
>
> The question is, what is required from us to make this happen? I think it
> would be worth us chatting briefly when we're all back from Wikimania to
> define the minimal viable product for this, to assess how achievable it is
> for us to work on it, and see where it fits into our priorities.
>

I agree with Monte that, while these are cool ideas to explore in the
future, now might not be the time to dive too deeply into them.

If I understand the original proposal correctly, the idea was to add a
launch-point somewhere in the Wikipedia app that would simply take you to
the mobile view of Magnus's games (and potentially any new
volunteer-created games that were developed in the future) – however, it's
important to remember that the currently existing Wikidata games aren't
formatted for mobile and may not necessarily make sense in the mobile
context. At minimum, an MVP would need some design work to ensure the UX of
the games isn't broken, and some selection and special-casing of games that
are appropriate for mobile users.

And that's just the Product/Design piece – in addition to implementing
visual design/UI improvements, I imagine there would also be some technical
hurdles like doing a spike around Magnus's codebase to ensure we didn't
melt a game by sending (potentially) hundreds of thousands of people into
it all at once; finding a way to hook into CentralAuth/OAuth to ensure
these edits are attributed to logged-in users; etc. If you factor in some
analytics to determine how people are making it through the funnel, the
inevitable round of design and UX refinements, potentially figuring out how
to throttle the feature to avoid too many bad edits or edit conflicts...
you're talking potentially a quarter's worth of work.

But the main concern for me isn't so much the workload this would introduce
as the fact that this workload would be done without the initial validation
of whether our app audience (still primarily readers, but also probably a
lot of editors who don't necessarily know that much about Wikidata) would
even be interested in/understand these games. Our initial user testing of
the first WikiTinder prototype showed that we'll need to think hard about
how to frame this feature to users in a way that a) they understand, and b)
provides them with sustained value, that proverbial "a-ha!" moment –
because it's pretty clear from the reactions we got that just throwing
people at the experience only works for the tiny subset of users who
already know what they're doing and is potentially very off-putting/scary
to those who don't.

I think that through WikiTinder work over the coming months, the Mobile Web
team will have a much clearer idea of whether and how this can be done, and
this knowledge can help guide how we think of the Wikidata games app
experience if/when we choose to tackle it.

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Re: [WikimediaMobile] Creating a shell app to house Wikidata games

[Dan Garry]

On 10 August 2014 08:34, Monte Hurd  wrote:
>
> The existing app also has a flood of users based on name recognition
> alone. Although I suppose we could call it "Wikipedia Games"...
>

That's an idea worth exploring. Having a "Games" button in the left nav,
that when tapped launches the "Wikipedia Games" app which has a collection
of different games you can play. We know we have tons of people interacting
with the left nav, so there's no worries about discoverability. The app
would start a shell which contains many separate submodules, each of them a
game developed by a different group. On the user-facing end, it'd be a big
list of games that people could play to help Wikipedia! Our work would be
to create this shell. Then we can even make our own games to plug in to it!

There are benefits of this:

   - There will be less concerns about the games "bloating" the app. The
   main app will continue to be lean and lightweight.
   - It's a great framework for volunteers to build out games to be
   included in the official games app.
   - As we would have +2 in the repo for the app, we would still have
   quality control of what goes in the app.

This does not preclude us from incorporating one or two games, like the
Wikidata label thing that Mobile Web is doing, into the main app.

The question is, what is required from us to make this happen? I think it
would be worth us chatting briefly when we're all back from Wikimania to
define the minimal viable product for this, to assess how achievable it is
for us to work on it, and see where it fits into our priorities.

Dan

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[WikimediaMobile] Creating a shell app to house Wikidata games

[Monte Hurd]

I hate to dissent, but I don't think a separate app is the way to go at this 
time for a few reasons. 

First, many of the types of contributions to wikidata that we've talked about 
game-ifying are article specific. ie, "have user read some portion of an 
article and summarize what it's about in 5 words or less", etc. 

This would mean we'd need search and browse etc, and my gut tells me a variety 
of other context and interactions the existing app provides would need to be 
recreated. 

If the existing app could launch the game app, that could be one way to provide 
context, but from a UX perspective, we would otherwise be limiting ourselves to 
tasks that didn't require heavy back-and-forth comparisons and the transition 
between apps, at least on iOS, is super annoying (the way Facebook swaps out to 
Messenger annoys the hell out of me).

I also think, at this time, our limited resources are better spent carefully 
crafting one or two gamed interactions which we can carefully insert into the 
existing app rather than having to solve the inevitable wider set of challenges 
a new app would present. 

The existing app also has a flood of users based on name recognition alone. 
Although I suppose we could call it "Wikipedia Games"...

tl:dr, game-ify yes, other app no/not now










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> From: Tomasz Finc 
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> Subject: [WikimediaMobile] Creating a shell app to house Wikidata
>games
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> It's been amazing to see the interest in WikiData games here at
> Wikimania and i've been approached by a number of people who've wanted
> to create them. From label creation to data validation there have been
> many ideas of how to engage users in new and creative ways.
> 
> I'm curious to hear from users on this list and beyond about interest
> in a WikiData games app that would facilitate simple and quick
> contributions.
> 
> The idea would be that the app would act as a simple frontend shell
> that would allow anyone to interact with WikiData games to create,
> curate, and validate content. Putting aside the difficulties of
> dynamic custom user content with the app I'm curious about the
> interest in this.
> 
> I know that that mobile web team is already planning a handful of
> experiments with this and I'm eager to see if some of you would
> frequent an app that collected these and empowered users to contribute
> in ways that doesn't exist yet.
> 
> Do let know
> 
> --tomasz
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 15:11:04 +0100
> From: May Tee-Galloway 
> To: Tomasz Finc 
> Cc: mobile-l 
> Subject: Re: [WikimediaMobile] Creating a shell app to house Wikidata
>games
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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> You got a designer here!
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Tomasz Finc  wrote:
>> 
>> It's been amazing to see the interest in WikiData games here at
>> Wikimania and i've been approached by a number of people who've wanted
>> to create them. From label creation to data validation there have been
>> many ideas of how to engage users in new and creative ways.
>> 
>> I'm curious to hear from users on this list and beyond about interest
>> in a WikiData games app that would facilitate simple and quick
>> contributions.
>> 
>> The idea would be that the app w

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Creating a shell app to house Wikidata games

[Bernd Sitzmann]

Count me in!


On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Yuvi Panda  wrote:

> I think it is super awesome. Sign me up for serverside help.
>
> And we don't let Moiz name anything ever, EVER.
>
> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Moiz Syed  wrote:
> > Seeing all this excitement around wiki tinder is really nice to see :) I
> > think we're on to something!
> >
> > On Saturday, August 9, 2014, Dmitry Brant  wrote:
> >>
> >> ...and my ax!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 10:11 AM, May Tee-Galloway
> >>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> You got a designer here!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Tomasz Finc 
> wrote:
> 
>  It's been amazing to see the interest in WikiData games here at
>  Wikimania and i've been approached by a number of people who've wanted
>  to create them. From label creation to data validation there have been
>  many ideas of how to engage users in new and creative ways.
> 
>  I'm curious to hear from users on this list and beyond about interest
>  in a WikiData games app that would facilitate simple and quick
>  contributions.
> 
>  The idea would be that the app would act as a simple frontend shell
>  that would allow anyone to interact with WikiData games to create,
>  curate, and validate content. Putting aside the difficulties of
>  dynamic custom user content with the app I'm curious about the
>  interest in this.
> 
>  I know that that mobile web team is already planning a handful of
>  experiments with this and I'm eager to see if some of you would
>  frequent an app that collected these and empowered users to contribute
>  in ways that doesn't exist yet.
> 
>  Do let know
> 
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Re: [WikimediaMobile] Creating a shell app to house Wikidata games

[Yuvi Panda]

I think it is super awesome. Sign me up for serverside help.

And we don't let Moiz name anything ever, EVER.

On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Moiz Syed  wrote:
> Seeing all this excitement around wiki tinder is really nice to see :) I
> think we're on to something!
>
> On Saturday, August 9, 2014, Dmitry Brant  wrote:
>>
>> ...and my ax!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 10:11 AM, May Tee-Galloway
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> You got a designer here!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Tomasz Finc  wrote:

 It's been amazing to see the interest in WikiData games here at
 Wikimania and i've been approached by a number of people who've wanted
 to create them. From label creation to data validation there have been
 many ideas of how to engage users in new and creative ways.

 I'm curious to hear from users on this list and beyond about interest
 in a WikiData games app that would facilitate simple and quick
 contributions.

 The idea would be that the app would act as a simple frontend shell
 that would allow anyone to interact with WikiData games to create,
 curate, and validate content. Putting aside the difficulties of
 dynamic custom user content with the app I'm curious about the
 interest in this.

 I know that that mobile web team is already planning a handful of
 experiments with this and I'm eager to see if some of you would
 frequent an app that collected these and empowered users to contribute
 in ways that doesn't exist yet.

 Do let know

 --tomasz

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Re: [WikimediaMobile] Creating a shell app to house Wikidata games

[Moiz Syed]

Seeing all this excitement around wiki tinder is really nice to see :) I
think we're on to something!

On Saturday, August 9, 2014, Dmitry Brant  wrote:

> ...and my ax!
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 10:11 AM, May Tee-Galloway  > wrote:
>
>> You got a designer here!
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Tomasz Finc > > wrote:
>>
>>> It's been amazing to see the interest in WikiData games here at
>>> Wikimania and i've been approached by a number of people who've wanted
>>> to create them. From label creation to data validation there have been
>>> many ideas of how to engage users in new and creative ways.
>>>
>>> I'm curious to hear from users on this list and beyond about interest
>>> in a WikiData games app that would facilitate simple and quick
>>> contributions.
>>>
>>> The idea would be that the app would act as a simple frontend shell
>>> that would allow anyone to interact with WikiData games to create,
>>> curate, and validate content. Putting aside the difficulties of
>>> dynamic custom user content with the app I'm curious about the
>>> interest in this.
>>>
>>> I know that that mobile web team is already planning a handful of
>>> experiments with this and I'm eager to see if some of you would
>>> frequent an app that collected these and empowered users to contribute
>>> in ways that doesn't exist yet.
>>>
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Re: [WikimediaMobile] Creating a shell app to house Wikidata games

[Dmitry Brant]

...and my ax!



On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 10:11 AM, May Tee-Galloway 
wrote:

> You got a designer here!
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Tomasz Finc  wrote:
>
>> It's been amazing to see the interest in WikiData games here at
>> Wikimania and i've been approached by a number of people who've wanted
>> to create them. From label creation to data validation there have been
>> many ideas of how to engage users in new and creative ways.
>>
>> I'm curious to hear from users on this list and beyond about interest
>> in a WikiData games app that would facilitate simple and quick
>> contributions.
>>
>> The idea would be that the app would act as a simple frontend shell
>> that would allow anyone to interact with WikiData games to create,
>> curate, and validate content. Putting aside the difficulties of
>> dynamic custom user content with the app I'm curious about the
>> interest in this.
>>
>> I know that that mobile web team is already planning a handful of
>> experiments with this and I'm eager to see if some of you would
>> frequent an app that collected these and empowered users to contribute
>> in ways that doesn't exist yet.
>>
>> Do let know
>>
>> --tomasz
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Re: [WikimediaMobile] Creating a shell app to house Wikidata games

[May Tee-Galloway]

You got a designer here!


On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Tomasz Finc  wrote:

> It's been amazing to see the interest in WikiData games here at
> Wikimania and i've been approached by a number of people who've wanted
> to create them. From label creation to data validation there have been
> many ideas of how to engage users in new and creative ways.
>
> I'm curious to hear from users on this list and beyond about interest
> in a WikiData games app that would facilitate simple and quick
> contributions.
>
> The idea would be that the app would act as a simple frontend shell
> that would allow anyone to interact with WikiData games to create,
> curate, and validate content. Putting aside the difficulties of
> dynamic custom user content with the app I'm curious about the
> interest in this.
>
> I know that that mobile web team is already planning a handful of
> experiments with this and I'm eager to see if some of you would
> frequent an app that collected these and empowered users to contribute
> in ways that doesn't exist yet.
>
> Do let know
>
> --tomasz
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[WikimediaMobile] Creating a shell app to house Wikidata games

[Tomasz Finc]

It's been amazing to see the interest in WikiData games here at
Wikimania and i've been approached by a number of people who've wanted
to create them. From label creation to data validation there have been
many ideas of how to engage users in new and creative ways.

I'm curious to hear from users on this list and beyond about interest
in a WikiData games app that would facilitate simple and quick
contributions.

The idea would be that the app would act as a simple frontend shell
that would allow anyone to interact with WikiData games to create,
curate, and validate content. Putting aside the difficulties of
dynamic custom user content with the app I'm curious about the
interest in this.

I know that that mobile web team is already planning a handful of
experiments with this and I'm eager to see if some of you would
frequent an app that collected these and empowered users to contribute
in ways that doesn't exist yet.

Do let know

--tomasz

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