Re: [WikimediaMobile] feedback about random
On Sep 17, 2014 4:50 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: After home, the random menu item is the most clicked button. I remember analysing the data once and seeing that one user hit random 100 times in a day. That was me, sorry! :) ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
[WikimediaMobile] feedback about random
[Was: iOS app feedback (via testflight)] When I first saw the Random article in Wikipedia bask in 2004 or so, I immediately though - Right, they probably added because they wanted it to look like an old-school paper encyclopedia that you can open randomly. I guess that it's not clear to all people. If I recall correctly, that button was added because there were requests for it, but was its existence ever justified? If there's interesting data about using the random button, a blog post could be published about it that would serve as the rationale for keeping the functionality. For example, that it gets people to read and click more links and maybe become editors. Also, it could be relabeled as something more fun without using the word random, which is a tad technical. The first thing that comes to my mind is I just want to read something. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore 2014-09-17 3:48 GMT+03:00 Monte Hurd mh...@wikimedia.org: We received the following feedback email through testflight: Hi, I already tested your latest updates in Wikipedia 4.0.2, and I want to give you some feedbacks : 1.) If I want to see my previous article or my next article, I don't need to press the back () button or forward () button. Instead, I can swipe my finger from the left or right side of the display. (For example, the navigation gesture in Safari) 2.) When I want to delete my saved page, the animation is a bit late. 3.) The Random button in the sidebar. Actually, I don't understand why it was made. Because, someone who opens Wikipedia, must be know what he/she looking for. So, I want to suggest to delete the Random button (*if you don't mind) That's all I want to say. And I hope to see another beta updates. Thank you. ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
Re: [WikimediaMobile] feedback about random
Amir E. Aharoni, 17/09/2014 08:22: If I recall correctly, that button was added because there were requests for it, but was its existence ever justified? If there's interesting data about using the random button, http://stats.grok.se/en/latest30/Special:Random Do you really need more? Nemo ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
Re: [WikimediaMobile] feedback about random
Amir E. Aharoni, 17/09/2014 10:05: WAT. Are these millions and millions of real people clicking Random article all the time? Not search engines or bots or something? I have no reason to believe it's an especially inflated number: Special:Random is the most common tool for curious users in search of something to read or edit, together with watchlist (which anons don't have) and recent changes. Disbelievers can do some appreciated additional research though. :-) Do taps on Random article in the apps count as hits to Special:Random? Not for stats.grok.se, for sure. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Killiondude/stats#What_about_mobile.3F Nemo ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
Re: [WikimediaMobile] feedback about random
Data: http://mobile-reportcard.wmflabs.org/graphs/ui-daily After home, the random menu item is the most clicked button. I remember analysing the data once and seeing that one user hit random 100 times in a day. I agree however that it is technical. It would be good to rebrand this to make it more friendly. Personally I'd love to see us combine nearby, random into some kind of explore feature. We can do so much better than a button that just takes you to a random page. On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 1:21 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Amir E. Aharoni, 17/09/2014 10:05: WAT. Are these millions and millions of real people clicking Random article all the time? Not search engines or bots or something? I have no reason to believe it's an especially inflated number: Special:Random is the most common tool for curious users in search of something to read or edit, together with watchlist (which anons don't have) and recent changes. Disbelievers can do some appreciated additional research though. :-) Do taps on Random article in the apps count as hits to Special:Random? Not for stats.grok.se, for sure. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Killiondude/stats#What_about_mobile.3F Nemo ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l -- Jon Robson * http://jonrobson.me.uk * https://www.facebook.com/jonrobson * @rakugojon ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
