Re: [Mobile.AI] Android Lollipop 5.0.2 first impressions issues/questions

2015-01-29 Thread mukesh jain
Here are my few answers to your questions:
* muffled reading of initial alphabets - For example, if you swipe to
a control labelled as 'Apps', you will be read only a muffled and
rather inaudible 'ps'. This is especially problematic while reading
extremely short text, consisting of a single syllabled word or an
alphabet key on the on-screen keyboard.
didn't exactly understood what you meant to say but this can simply be
made clear by performing the talkback gesture like spel the last
occurance. I genrally get spelt out anything whether short or long
with the talkback gesture say for instance, I would highlight the app
icon on my home screen by moving my finger on it then from here I
would perform the gesture of taking local context menu with swiping up
and right and in the circle I would take the option spell the last
utterance. My talkback announces the speling as a p p s. don't know
what you meant to ask but this is what I understood. So be more clear
if it's not the case.

 * Recent Apps changes - I find the modifications in Recent Apps (its
new name is unintelligible because of the above issue) totally
redundant and unnecessary.
  Don't know why you feel to be unintelligent as it's performing the
same action as it used to be earlier only with the name change from
recent apps button to overview in this version.

* unlocking the screen - Previously, I used to place y finger
approximately in the center of the screen, and then slide right to
unlock my screen, which was extremely convenient, while now I have to
locate a button and double tap on it to unlock my device.

In fact, this is the most convenient option for me because most of the
times I had to try harder to move across the slider to unlock the
phone especially if something is already appearing on the screen. But
now I have to simply locate the unlock button at the bottom row just
at the centre position and tapping twice easily unlocks the phone. It
depends on the user's choice but in my case, I would prefer the choice
of activating via buttons rather moving the slider.


* placement and activation of the Voice Input button - Using the
Google Keyboard, previously the Voice Input option was located to the
left of the Spacebar key, and could be activated by sliding to it and
lifting the finger, whereas now the Voice Input button is present to
the top right side of the keyboard area (which is less convenient than
its former location in my opinion) and needs to be activated by a
further double tap.

In my case, this is most convenient as there were chances of getting
it activated by mistake in a situation of typing faster as it was
situated inside the keyboard area. Most likely I use to activate it by
mistake while giving the multiple spaces. Now I will not get messed up
with this option totally. I will now use this option if I want to as
this is completely seprate one if I  don't want to use this feature
and only need to type with the keyboard.

 * prompt to complete certain action with which dialler - Although I do
not do anything related to phoning and dialling, whenever I unlock my
device, I am presented with a prompt asking me to choose the app with
which I would like to complete the action, apps are the Phone app and
DW Dialler. This issue began only after the Lollipop update.

This need to be confirmed at your end once you update your version.
This is not ongoing process unless you choose to have this option
always. In my case,before using the dialer, I had been presented with
several options like skype, whatsapp, hang out phone  etc so here I
just highlighted the option phone by tapping single and then at the
bottom there will be two buttons like just once and always. So here I
tapped twice to activate the always button. Now whenever I am
activating the dialer, this doesn't ask me any more.

* silence/no announcement to indicate volume change - When I press the
Volume keys of my device to change the media volume and the ringer
volume, Google Talkback gives no spoken feedback to indicate the
change. Instead, there is simply a vibration. This too did not occur
before the arrival of Lollipop.
   This even happened with me after upgrading to this version but you
can do this by going in to
settings\accessibility\talkback\settings\speech volume match media
volume and check this option if its uncheck.

I hope that this gives you bit answers to your questions. I am not too
techy to provide you with exact solution just tried to understand your
concerns.
Thanks,





On 1/29/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear all,
 In the fifteen minutes of my use of Android version 5.0.2 Lollipop on
 my Motorolla G second generation, I have thoroughly disliked this new
 update from an accessibility viewpoint.
 For your information, I am using the latest stable version of Google
 Talkback and ESpeak (by Caintewar Technologies).
 Following are some issues that I've already discovered:
 * muffled reading of initial alphabets - For example, if you swipe 

[Mobile.AI] Location Monitor

2015-01-29 Thread Ketan Kothari
Hi friends,

Where do I get location monitor?  Will it tell me my location in terms of road 
or mere longitude/lattitude?  Thank you.

With best wishes,

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Re: [Mobile.AI] The KNFBReader app for iOS is at half price!

2015-01-29 Thread Vamshi. G
Once we buy it, can we use it on any apple device?  I mean, on any
model of iPhone, iPod, etc.?




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 Ya, that's correct!



 The KNFBReader app is at half price, $49.99, for an unspecified time:
 http://www.applevis.com/apps/deals/ios-apps-dropped-price/knfbreader-currently-reduced--4999


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Re: [Mobile.AI] talkback feature in mobile phone

2015-01-29 Thread Bhavya shah
Hi,
* Simbian is outdated and non-existent.
* You require a certain amount of practice, in my case, a week, and
you will get totally comfortable with a Touch Screen interface.
* If you desire to use a recent device through a combination of QWERTY
keypad and Touch Screen, look at some Android devices, though touch
screen containing a physical QWERTY keypad.
You may also wish to look at the archives of this list, similar
questions have come numerous times in the past.

On 1/29/15, Shashi advantage.sha...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello all,

 this request has come through an acquaintence for someone, who is not
 known to me. will appreciate response.

 background
 the person is currently using a handset without talkback facility e.g.
 talx or in-built. the person wants to be able to read sms or
 figure-out missed calls. the person may not want to buy a new handset,
 and may not be comfortable with touch phones.

 1. at what price and from whom may she buy the talx software?
 a. if we can share the list of models that are compatible with talx,
 it will help her.

 2. which qwerty handsets have an in-built speech software?
 a. what is the typical price range of these handsets?

 3. if she absolutely must go for a smart phone, which is the simplist to
 use?
 a. she is 60+ in terms of age so
 b. are there any 2nd-hand iphones available that she could consider
 buying in good condition... not the latest model of course!

 4. anything else that she needs to know or do? any better suggestion?


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[Mobile.AI] The KNFBReader app for iOS is at half price!

2015-01-29 Thread Satguru Rathi
Ya, that’s correct! 



The KNFBReader app is at half price, $49.99, for an unspecified time:
http://www.applevis.com/apps/deals/ios-apps-dropped-price/knfbreader-currently-reduced--4999


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Re: [Mobile.AI] OCR in android

2015-01-29 Thread Satguru Rathi
Thanks for the link; seems pretty reliable, and reason for some excitement 
as well!


Keeping my fingers crossed...

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-Original Message- 
From: mukesh jain

Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 4:55 PM
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile 
phonesand Tabs.

Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] OCR in android

there is no official news about this release rather it has been learnt
from the communication between the people associated with the
eyes-free projects for the blind and the knfb dev team.
you can read about it from here as well:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/eyes-free/ksZsFK8EwkI
thanks,

On 1/29/15, Satguru Rathi tarannumra...@gmail.com wrote:

Rajesh sir,

Android One phones have only 5MP camera and you might need to dump this 
and


go for a new one if OCR is so important on the phone.


With best regards,
Satguru
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-Original Message-
From: Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 1:14 PM
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
phonesand Tabs.
Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] OCR in android

Isn't there a freeware?
What may be the cost?
Accuracy level with 8MP autofocus?


-Original Message-
From: Mobile.accessindia
[mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sheik
Mohammedali
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:49 PM
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of 
mobilephones


and Tabs.
Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] OCR in android

abbyy text grabber.  following should be considered before you can buy the
OCR:
your camra should have 8 mega pixal with auto focused feature.
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Subject: [Mobile.AI] OCR in android



Friends
Which is the best OCR software for android one?


With thanks and regards

(Rajesh Asudani)

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Re: [Mobile.AI] OCR in android

2015-01-29 Thread mukesh jain
there is no official news about this release rather it has been learnt
from the communication between the people associated with the
eyes-free projects for the blind and the knfb dev team.
you can read about it from here as well:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/eyes-free/ksZsFK8EwkI
thanks,

On 1/29/15, Satguru Rathi tarannumra...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rajesh sir,

 Android One phones have only 5MP camera and you might need to dump this and

 go for a new one if OCR is so important on the phone.


 With best regards,
 Satguru
 ___,__.___
 Life's battle do not always go, to the stronger or faster man. But sooner
 or later the one who wins, is the one who thinks he can.

 Satguru Rathi
 Mobile: +91-9871489945
 Email: satgurura...@yahoo.co.in
 Skype: satgururathi
 Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/satguru.rathi.9
 -Original Message-
 From: Asudani, Rajesh
 Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 1:14 PM
 To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
 phonesand Tabs.
 Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] OCR in android

 Isn't there a freeware?
 What may be the cost?
 Accuracy level with 8MP autofocus?


 -Original Message-
 From: Mobile.accessindia
 [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sheik
 Mohammedali
 Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:49 PM
 To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobilephones

 and Tabs.
 Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] OCR in android

 abbyy text grabber.  following should be considered before you can buy the
 OCR:
 your camra should have 8 mega pixal with auto focused feature.
 - Original Message -
 From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
 To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
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 Subject: [Mobile.AI] OCR in android


 Friends
 Which is the best OCR software for android one?


 With thanks and regards

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 Reserve Bank Of India
 Nagpur

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[Mobile.AI] talkback feature in mobile phone

2015-01-29 Thread Shashi
hello all,

this request has come through an acquaintence for someone, who is not
known to me. will appreciate response.

background
the person is currently using a handset without talkback facility e.g.
talx or in-built. the person wants to be able to read sms or
figure-out missed calls. the person may not want to buy a new handset,
and may not be comfortable with touch phones.

1. at what price and from whom may she buy the talx software?
a. if we can share the list of models that are compatible with talx,
it will help her.

2. which qwerty handsets have an in-built speech software?
a. what is the typical price range of these handsets?

3. if she absolutely must go for a smart phone, which is the simplist to use?
a. she is 60+ in terms of age so
b. are there any 2nd-hand iphones available that she could consider
buying in good condition... not the latest model of course!

4. anything else that she needs to know or do? any better suggestion?


-- 
Shashi



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Re: [Mobile.AI] Location Monitor

2015-01-29 Thread Aravind Aralaguppe
How can i set application monitor widget on my home screen
On 29 Jan 2015 20:48, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote:

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 Where do I get location monitor?  Will it tell me my location in terms of
 road or mere longitude/lattitude?  Thank you.

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[Mobile.AI] Android Lollipop 5.0.2 first impressions issues/questions

2015-01-29 Thread Bhavya shah
Dear all,
In the fifteen minutes of my use of Android version 5.0.2 Lollipop on
my Motorolla G second generation, I have thoroughly disliked this new
update from an accessibility viewpoint.
For your information, I am using the latest stable version of Google
Talkback and ESpeak (by Caintewar Technologies).
Following are some issues that I've already discovered:
* muffled reading of initial alphabets - For example, if you swipe to
a control labelled as 'Apps', you will be read only a muffled and
rather inaudible 'ps'. This is especially problematic while reading
extremely short text, consisting of a single syllabled word or an
alphabet key on the on-screen keyboard.
* Recent Apps changes - I find the modifications in Recent Apps (its
new name is unintelligible because of the above issue) totally
redundant and unnecessary.
* unlocking the screen - Previously, I used to place y finger
approximately in the center of the screen, and then slide right to
unlock my screen, which was extremely convenient, while now I have to
locate a button and double tap on it to unlock my device.
* placement and activation of the Voice Input button - Using the
Google Keyboard, previously the Voice Input option was located to the
left of the Spacebar key, and could be activated by sliding to it and
lifting the finger, whereas now the Voice Input button is present to
the top right side of the keyboard area (which is less convenient than
its former location in my opinion) and needs to be activated by a
further double tap.
* prompt to complete certain action with which dialler - Although I do
not do anything related to phoning and dialling, whenever I unlock my
device, I am presented with a prompt asking me to choose the app with
which I would like to complete the action, apps are the Phone app and
DW Dialler. This issue began only after the Lollipop update.
* silence/no announcement to indicate volume change - When I press the
Volume keys of my device to change the media volume and the ringer
volume, Google Talkback gives no spoken feedback to indicate the
change. Instead, there is simply a vibration. This too did not occur
before the arrival of Lollipop.
I reiterate that I'm thoroughly disliking this update, apart from the
webviews accessibility improvements. Does the latest Talkback Beta
release fix any of the above mentioned issues, especially the first
one? I may consider joining the Beta testing team once again then.
Are there any other solutions to the above problem, especially the first one?
I would certainly like to courageously stay on Lollipop 5.0.2,
however, for my information, and if I change my decision, is
downgrading back to Kit Kat a wise decision in your opinion, and is
downgradation a simple task?
I would appreciate any assistance.
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[Mobile.AI] Fw: Webview and Chrome

2015-01-29 Thread Ketan Kothari


From: Ketan Kothari 
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:45 PM
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Subject: Webview and Chrome

Hi friends,

I learn that with new update to chrome browser, webviews have been tackled for 
good.  Is that true even for Android 4.4.4?  And, how do I change my default 
browser?  does it then affect my apps as well?  Thank you.

With best wishes,

Ketan
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Re: [Mobile.AI] Fw: Webview and Chrome

2015-01-29 Thread Austin Pinto
hi Ketan sir 3rd party apps use chrome framework to display web views
if its your default browser or no so it wont effect anything if u
change your browser defaults it will only effect if there is a web
link in the 3rd party app after clicking on which your default browser
opens to change your default browser go to settings application
settings depending on which phone you have then just find the browser
that u have set as defaults and dubble tap on it then select the clear
defaults option  now when u have to open weblinks within gmail or any
3rd party apps it will ask u what you want to use just set crome as
defaults i am just liking this new update feals like i am holding a
symbian phone in my hand but this may not be the case if you are using
a old version of talkback i use the latest beta with android 5.0.2 and
yes this also works on android 4.4.4

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 From: Ketan Kothari
 Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:45 PM
 To: eyes-f...@googlegroups.com ; mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Webview and Chrome

 Hi friends,

 I learn that with new update to chrome browser, webviews have been tackled
 for good.  Is that true even for Android 4.4.4?  And, how do I change my
 default browser?  does it then affect my apps as well?  Thank you.

 With best wishes,

 Ketan

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[Mobile.AI] Fw: Location Monitor

2015-01-29 Thread Ketan Kothari
Dear Friends,

Don’t know if this is reaching thelist hence the resend.

Ketan

From: Ketan Kothari 
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:47 PM
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Subject: Location Monitor

Hi friends,

Where do I get location monitor?  Will it tell me my location in terms of road 
or mere longitude/lattitude?  Thank you.

With best wishes,

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Re: [Mobile.AI] about Google TTS

2015-01-29 Thread Anirban Mukherjee
yes, i had installed the eyesfree version. well, i'd give it a real try.

thanks, Anirban

On 1/29/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 I suspect you have installed the free version of ESpeak offered by
 Eyes Free Project. This free version of ESpeak for Android is
 incompatible with certain higher versions of Android. Also, it isn't
 maintained/updated.
 You should consider purchasing ESpeak by Caintewar Technologies,
 costing Rs. 88.08. Its developer provides reasonably well customer
 support, develops it fairly actively, and on the whole this text to
 speech engine is certainly worth a buy, given the price.

 On 1/29/15, Anirban Mukherjee sparsha.anir...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Bhavya,

 i have installed espeak as you have suggested but after successful
 installation, whenever i want to switch it on, it says,
 unfortunately, espeak has stopped. how to run it? and, are the
 voices really good? please guide me. actually, i haven't had to tinker
 with the TTS before and therefore i didn't want to use any other TTS
 but Google's.

 looking forward, Anirban

 On 1/28/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 You need to have that version installed, and then you can extract its
 APK through various means.
 Since in this case you do not have that version installed, you will
 need to ask someone else to extract the APK from the version needed,
 and send it to you.

 On 1/28/15, Anirban Mukherjee sparsha.anir...@gmail.com wrote:
 thanks, but, how to get the APK file of the previous version?

 greetings, Anirban

 On 1/27/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 You will need to procure the APK file of the previous version of
 Google TTS somehow. If you do procure it, then you should install
 that, and make sure to uncheck Auto Update in More Options of Google
 TTS.
 You may choose the alternative of getting accustomed to the new
 pronunciations as well.
 You may also try the other English voices in the Google TTS.
 You may switch to other text to speech engines, ESpeak is the most
 inexpensive yet responsive and extremely multi-lingual one, thats what
 I use presently, and its a major improvement for me over Google TTS.

 On 1/27/15, Anirban Mukherjee sparsha.anir...@gmail.com wrote:
 yes, hope so, but the previous one seemed to be quite perfect. i even
 tried to download the high quality pack but it was also not at all
 acceptable to me.

 greetings, Anirban

 On 1/27/15, bilal ahmed billu0...@gmail.com wrote:
 sir i also have fased the same problem before fiwe days
 i also tryed to switched to the older voices but i was faled
 i don't think that
 you will alsoget the older voices
 my sujjation is cuntenew with the new voice
 you will be feel cumfartable with the new voice wary soon
 so best of luck thank you

 On 1/26/15, Anirban Mukherjee sparsha.anir...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear All,

 as i had downloaded the android L update, the TTS voice, which was
 UK
 female, too was updated. i am not at all happy with the voice as
 there
 are pronunciations which are much better in the previous one. i had
 downgraded to the previous ones a few times before. now, how can i
 get
 back the earlier voice pack where the pronunciations were more
 accurate? or, is there any alternative TTS which i can try to use?
 (of
 course, i am not in a mood to buy one). please help me solve this
 issue.

 greetings, Anirban



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