Re: [Mobile.AI] There's Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine on your Android device

[Asudani, Rajesh]

Well, voice input, though highly accurate with google, is not a substitute for 
typing, me thinks.
What about privacy?
For instance, how  would I do whatsapping?


And, I cannot comprehend why we have to throw away the old necessarily?
The thing as useful as keyboard, for instance?
I am not rangling emotionally, but do hope companies would see sense in good 
old physical keypad to be retained over aesthetically appealing touch screen.

With thanks and regards

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-Original Message-
From: Mobile.accessindia [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] 
On Behalf Of Bhavya shah
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 11:53 PM
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones 
and Tabs.
Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] There's Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine 
on your Android device

Hi,
Avichal,
By IVR, do you mean dialling numbers as instructed during calls to companies 
technical support or customer care teams? If so, dialling one number is 
extremely simple and doable.
If you require the steps for these, I will willingly provide them, but, if you 
are referring to something else, do clarify.
A keyboard is a more powerful device than Touch Screen, however, if done in the 
right way, most of the productivity and efficiency can be emulated via a Touch 
Screen input method, even for the visually impaired.
My first device was an Android powered full touch Motorolla G second generation 
which I am happily usig=ng even now. For places where I require to type, I use 
Voice Input to emulate the same speed of a keyboard user.
All the same, I like my computer and its keyboarding facilities to perform 
majority of my tasks, however, the same applies to a significant extent to 
sighted people as well.
Anyways, as Harish Sir rightly said, discussing this further would truly lead 
nowhere. Make efforts to adapt to newer technology and use existing users as an 
encouragement boosting point to instigate yourself to try hard to make the 
switch without significant compromises. It is doable.
Thanks.

On 5/23/15, Avichal Bhatnagar  wrote:
> I also feel that physical keypad is the best.
> When using a full touch screen, using IVR service becomes totally
> impossible.
>
> On 5/22/15, Shyam M. Sayanekar  wrote:
>> Hello Rajesh, I fully subscribe to your view, and some days back, I
>> had written in detail on this point. Thanks for your views.
>> Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
>> Telephone: 0251-2438457
>> Mobile: +91 9920410788
>> Skype ID- sayanekar
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Asudani, Rajesh" 
>> To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of
>> mobile phonesand Tabs. " 
>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 10:08 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] There's Another Screen Reader, and it Wants
>> to Shine on your Android device
>>
>>
>>> Good.
>>> May newer screen readers continue to shine on android.
>>> But, frankly, and here I believe I am speaking for most  of totally
>>> blind persons above age of 35, that ease of symbian is surely
>>> missing in android
>>>
>>> touch screen phones, and I vehemently lament the loss of that ease
>>> and privacy on phone.
>>> For me, Even performing a simple task as forwarding messages is an
>>> uphill task even after trying and exploring touch screen for about
>>> eight months now.
>>> This will be the case until an android  device with keypad comes along.
>>>
>>>
>>> With thanks and regards
>>>
>>> (Rajesh Asudani)
>>>
>>> AGM
>>> MIU
>>> Reserve Bank Of India
>>> Nagpur
>>>
>>> Co-Moderator
>>> VIB-India
>>>
>>> President
>>> VIBEWA
>>>
>>> Phone: 0712 2806846
>>>
>>> A-pilll = Action coupled with  Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and
>>> Laughter
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Mobile.accessindia
>>> [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
>>> Bhavya
>>>
>>> shah
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 5:54 PM
>>> To: eyes-free; mobile.accessindia; keyboardusers
>>> Subject: [Mobile.AI] There's Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to
>>> Shine on your Android device
>>>
>>> There's Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine on your Android
>>> device TAMAS GECZY ON MAY 19, 2015 For the longest time, Talkback
>>> has been
>>>
>>> the only good and useful screen reader on Android -- though this was
>>> not always the case. Senior Android users might fondly recall Spiel,
>>> which was
>>>
>>> alive around 2011 last, a screen reader that even surpassed Talkback
>>> in functionality and speed. Google then suddenly changed the entire
>>> framework
>>>
>>> for how accessibility is done on their platform, and Spiel was no more.
>>> Although current compiled releases of it can be run successfully
>>> even under Android 5.1, the code is not often maintained and needs a
>>> lot of work to be a daily driver.
>>> And 

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Re: [Mobile.AI] There's Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine on your Android device

[Prasanth P.V.]

Friends, ShinePluss is not announcing the number of new items in
Phone, Pessages and Whatsapp when I touch on these icons as in
TalkBack. How to make it announce these things?

On 5/24/15, Bhavya shah  wrote:
> Hi,
> Vikas,
> That is a good point you have raised. I haven't encountered IVRs
> asking to input a number more than a digit, however, I understand that
> this can happen.
> Is there any dialler which allows usage of Voice Input also known as
> dictation? I have found Google Voice Search to be quite accurate in
> catching numbers, however, haven't stumbled upon a method to use it in
> the Dialpad.
> Thanks.
>
> On 5/24/15, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
>> Certainly Avichal, the problem becomes more acute when we are required to
>> dial a 10 digit phone number or card number ,which is some times longer
>> than
>>
>> 10 digits and the time given to input the numbers is very limited, and
>> IVRS
>>
>> then automatically readjust itself to give you a fresh attempt only to
>> hear,
>>
>> you have acceded your maximum limits!
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Avichal Bhatnagar" 
>> To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
>> phonesand Tabs." 
>> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 9:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] There's Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to
>> Shine on your Android device
>>
>>
>> I also feel that physical keypad is the best.
>> When using a full touch screen, using IVR service becomes totally
>> impossible.
>>
>> On 5/22/15, Shyam M. Sayanekar  wrote:
>>> Hello Rajesh, I fully subscribe to your view, and some days back, I had
>>> written in detail on this point. Thanks for your views.
>>> Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
>>> Telephone: 0251-2438457
>>> Mobile: +91 9920410788
>>> Skype ID- sayanekar
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Asudani, Rajesh" 
>>> To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
>>> phonesand Tabs. " 
>>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 10:08 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] There's Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to
>>> Shine on your Android device
>>>
>>>
 Good.
 May newer screen readers continue to shine on android.
 But, frankly, and here I believe I am speaking for most  of totally
 blind
 persons above age of 35, that ease of symbian is surely missing in
 android

 touch screen phones, and I vehemently lament the loss of that ease and
 privacy on phone.
 For me, Even performing a simple task as forwarding messages is an
 uphill
 task even after trying and exploring touch screen for about eight
 months
 now.
 This will be the case until an android  device with keypad comes along.


 With thanks and regards

 (Rajesh Asudani)

 AGM
 MIU
 Reserve Bank Of India
 Nagpur

 Co-Moderator
 VIB-India

 President
 VIBEWA

 Phone: 0712 2806846

 A-pilll = Action coupled with  Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and
 Laughter

 -Original Message-
 From: Mobile.accessindia
 [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
 Bhavya

 shah
 Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 5:54 PM
 To: eyes-free; mobile.accessindia; keyboardusers
 Subject: [Mobile.AI] There's Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to
 Shine
 on your Android device

 There's Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine on your Android
 device TAMAS GECZY ON MAY 19, 2015 For the longest time, Talkback has
 been

 the only good and useful screen reader on Android -- though this was
 not
 always the case. Senior Android users might fondly recall Spiel, which
 was

 alive around 2011 last, a screen reader that even surpassed Talkback in
 functionality and speed. Google then suddenly changed the entire
 framework

 for how accessibility is done on their platform, and Spiel was no more.
 Although current compiled releases of it can be run successfully even
 under Android 5.1, the code is not often maintained and needs a lot of
 work to be a daily driver.
 And then, without warning, a new contender came on to the scene. The 1
 megabyte screen reader, which is technically called Shine Plus is
 developed by a Chinese company called ATLab. As a result, the English
 text

 of the program and manual is not constructed well, though this does not
 take away from its functionality if you are willing to learn and be
 patient with the interface. The manual can be found here in a text file
 form.
 You might be wondering, is it better than Talkback?
 Before we dive into some of the unique features of Shine plus, we must
 note that it is a very special screen reader as it also includes a
 screen
 magnifier and other tools for people who have high-partial vision. This
 means that it not only is a screen reader, but also a magnifier at the

[Mobile.AI] need to know the keyboard settings of updated version of talkback

[ketan modi]

Hi friends,
The updated version of talkback has come up with some keystrokes,
which you will find in keyboard settings. However, the keystrokes
mentioned  are not available in keyboard layout. Therefore, I am not
able to utilise the benefits of upgraded version of talkbacks to its
fullest extent due to absence of keys like control, ault and so on.
Therefore, , seek your kind help to tackle this difficulty.
Hope to hear from at the earliest.



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Re: [Mobile.AI] Accessible news app for IPhone

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Don't you think it has become quite inaccessible these days?
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phonesand Tabs." 

Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 2:32 PM
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try ndtv. its a good app for reading the news. i use it.
regards,
nishi.

Sent from my iPhone

On 20-May-2015, at 2:01 pm, Satguru Rathi  
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NBT, Dainik Bhaskar and BBC are quite usable on iPhone.




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hello, greetings
there are few of the android news apps are quite accessible with
talkback with kitcat

toi, [times of india]\
many more
try using




On 20/05/2015, Dinesh Thole  wrote:
Friends,



I want to know which accessible  app  I can use for reading news on 
IPhone.


I don't find times of india, economic times to be that accessible.

So please suggest.



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Re: [Mobile.AI] Top 5 smartphones between Rs 10, 000- Rs. 15, 000 as of May 2015

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Hi,
I think the poster missed to paste the source link of the article, or,
is it only me who missed it?
Thanks.

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Re: [Mobile.AI] There's Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine on your Android device

[Bhavya shah]

Hi,
Vikas,
That is a good point you have raised. I haven't encountered IVRs
asking to input a number more than a digit, however, I understand that
this can happen.
Is there any dialler which allows usage of Voice Input also known as
dictation? I have found Google Voice Search to be quite accurate in
catching numbers, however, haven't stumbled upon a method to use it in
the Dialpad.
Thanks.

On 5/24/15, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
> Certainly Avichal, the problem becomes more acute when we are required to
> dial a 10 digit phone number or card number ,which is some times longer than
>
> 10 digits and the time given to input the numbers is very limited, and IVRS
>
> then automatically readjust itself to give you a fresh attempt only to hear,
>
> you have acceded your maximum limits!
> - Original Message -
> From: "Avichal Bhatnagar" 
> To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
> phonesand Tabs." 
> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 9:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] There's Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to
> Shine on your Android device
>
>
> I also feel that physical keypad is the best.
> When using a full touch screen, using IVR service becomes totally
> impossible.
>
> On 5/22/15, Shyam M. Sayanekar  wrote:
>> Hello Rajesh, I fully subscribe to your view, and some days back, I had
>> written in detail on this point. Thanks for your views.
>> Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
>> Telephone: 0251-2438457
>> Mobile: +91 9920410788
>> Skype ID- sayanekar
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Asudani, Rajesh" 
>> To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
>> phonesand Tabs. " 
>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 10:08 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] There's Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to
>> Shine on your Android device
>>
>>
>>> Good.
>>> May newer screen readers continue to shine on android.
>>> But, frankly, and here I believe I am speaking for most  of totally
>>> blind
>>> persons above age of 35, that ease of symbian is surely missing in
>>> android
>>>
>>> touch screen phones, and I vehemently lament the loss of that ease and
>>> privacy on phone.
>>> For me, Even performing a simple task as forwarding messages is an
>>> uphill
>>> task even after trying and exploring touch screen for about eight months
>>> now.
>>> This will be the case until an android  device with keypad comes along.
>>>
>>>
>>> With thanks and regards
>>>
>>> (Rajesh Asudani)
>>>
>>> AGM
>>> MIU
>>> Reserve Bank Of India
>>> Nagpur
>>>
>>> Co-Moderator
>>> VIB-India
>>>
>>> President
>>> VIBEWA
>>>
>>> Phone: 0712 2806846
>>>
>>> A-pilll = Action coupled with  Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and
>>> Laughter
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Mobile.accessindia
>>> [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
>>> Bhavya
>>>
>>> shah
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 5:54 PM
>>> To: eyes-free; mobile.accessindia; keyboardusers
>>> Subject: [Mobile.AI] There's Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to
>>> Shine
>>> on your Android device
>>>
>>> There's Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine on your Android
>>> device TAMAS GECZY ON MAY 19, 2015 For the longest time, Talkback has
>>> been
>>>
>>> the only good and useful screen reader on Android -- though this was not
>>> always the case. Senior Android users might fondly recall Spiel, which
>>> was
>>>
>>> alive around 2011 last, a screen reader that even surpassed Talkback in
>>> functionality and speed. Google then suddenly changed the entire
>>> framework
>>>
>>> for how accessibility is done on their platform, and Spiel was no more.
>>> Although current compiled releases of it can be run successfully even
>>> under Android 5.1, the code is not often maintained and needs a lot of
>>> work to be a daily driver.
>>> And then, without warning, a new contender came on to the scene. The 1
>>> megabyte screen reader, which is technically called Shine Plus is
>>> developed by a Chinese company called ATLab. As a result, the English
>>> text
>>>
>>> of the program and manual is not constructed well, though this does not
>>> take away from its functionality if you are willing to learn and be
>>> patient with the interface. The manual can be found here in a text file
>>> form.
>>> You might be wondering, is it better than Talkback?
>>> Before we dive into some of the unique features of Shine plus, we must
>>> note that it is a very special screen reader as it also includes a
>>> screen
>>> magnifier and other tools for people who have high-partial vision. This
>>> means that it not only is a screen reader, but also a magnifier at the
>>> same time. In the Android world, that's definitely a first, and this
>>> reason alone could make it useful for many people, since changing the
>>> mode
>>>
>>> it operates in is very simple.
>>> When you first install the Shine Plus application (it does not call
>>> itself
>>>
>>> "Another Talkback screen reader"), you need to launch the application
>>> from
>>>
>>

Re: [Mobile.AI] There's Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine on your Android device

[Vikas Kapoor]

Certainly Avichal, the problem becomes more acute when we are required to
dial a 10 digit phone number or card number ,which is some times longer than 
10 digits and the time given to input the numbers is very limited, and IVRS 
then automatically readjust itself to give you a fresh attempt only to hear, 
you have acceded your maximum limits!
- Original Message - 
From: "Avichal Bhatnagar" 
To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
phonesand Tabs." 
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] There's Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to
Shine on your Android device


I also feel that physical keypad is the best.
When using a full touch screen, using IVR service becomes totally
impossible.

On 5/22/15, Shyam M. Sayanekar  wrote:
> Hello Rajesh, I fully subscribe to your view, and some days back, I had
> written in detail on this point. Thanks for your views.
> Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
> Telephone: 0251-2438457
> Mobile: +91 9920410788
> Skype ID- sayanekar
> - Original Message -
> From: "Asudani, Rajesh" 
> To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
> phonesand Tabs. " 
> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 10:08 AM
> Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] There's Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to
> Shine on your Android device
>
>
>> Good.
>> May newer screen readers continue to shine on android.
>> But, frankly, and here I believe I am speaking for most  of totally blind
>> persons above age of 35, that ease of symbian is surely missing in
>> android
>>
>> touch screen phones, and I vehemently lament the loss of that ease and
>> privacy on phone.
>> For me, Even performing a simple task as forwarding messages is an uphill
>> task even after trying and exploring touch screen for about eight months
>> now.
>> This will be the case until an android  device with keypad comes along.
>>
>>
>> With thanks and regards
>>
>> (Rajesh Asudani)
>>
>> AGM
>> MIU
>> Reserve Bank Of India
>> Nagpur
>>
>> Co-Moderator
>> VIB-India
>>
>> President
>> VIBEWA
>>
>> Phone: 0712 2806846
>>
>> A-pilll = Action coupled with  Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and
>> Laughter
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mobile.accessindia
>> [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
>> Bhavya
>>
>> shah
>> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 5:54 PM
>> To: eyes-free; mobile.accessindia; keyboardusers
>> Subject: [Mobile.AI] There's Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine
>> on your Android device
>>
>> There's Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine on your Android
>> device TAMAS GECZY ON MAY 19, 2015 For the longest time, Talkback has
>> been
>>
>> the only good and useful screen reader on Android -- though this was not
>> always the case. Senior Android users might fondly recall Spiel, which
>> was
>>
>> alive around 2011 last, a screen reader that even surpassed Talkback in
>> functionality and speed. Google then suddenly changed the entire
>> framework
>>
>> for how accessibility is done on their platform, and Spiel was no more.
>> Although current compiled releases of it can be run successfully even
>> under Android 5.1, the code is not often maintained and needs a lot of
>> work to be a daily driver.
>> And then, without warning, a new contender came on to the scene. The 1
>> megabyte screen reader, which is technically called Shine Plus is
>> developed by a Chinese company called ATLab. As a result, the English
>> text
>>
>> of the program and manual is not constructed well, though this does not
>> take away from its functionality if you are willing to learn and be
>> patient with the interface. The manual can be found here in a text file
>> form.
>> You might be wondering, is it better than Talkback?
>> Before we dive into some of the unique features of Shine plus, we must
>> note that it is a very special screen reader as it also includes a screen
>> magnifier and other tools for people who have high-partial vision. This
>> means that it not only is a screen reader, but also a magnifier at the
>> same time. In the Android world, that's definitely a first, and this
>> reason alone could make it useful for many people, since changing the
>> mode
>>
>> it operates in is very simple.
>> When you first install the Shine Plus application (it does not call
>> itself
>>
>> "Another Talkback screen reader"), you need to launch the application
>> from
>>
>> your home screen to configure it. Here you will set your desired mode
>> depending on the level of vision you have. First, the app will actually
>> check whether you have Google TTS or the keyboard installed, and then
>> will
>>
>> proceed to allow you the option to set your mode of preference. Once you
>> press the back button, it will place you into the Accessibility settings
>> of Android, where you will be given a list of available services.
>> The three options are "based on voice support", "based on letter
>>  expansion", and "sight protection." No, it will not protec

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