Friends, ShinePluss is not announcing the number of new items in Phone, Pessages and Whatsapp when I touch on these icons as in TalkBack. How to make it announce these things?
On 5/24/15, Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > Vikas, > That is a good point you have raised. I haven't encountered IVRs > asking to input a number more than a digit, however, I understand that > this can happen. > Is there any dialler which allows usage of Voice Input also known as > dictation? I have found Google Voice Search to be quite accurate in > catching numbers, however, haven't stumbled upon a method to use it in > the Dialpad. > Thanks. > > On 5/24/15, Vikas Kapoor <dl.vi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Certainly Avichal, the problem becomes more acute when we are required to >> dial a 10 digit phone number or card number ,which is some times longer >> than >> >> 10 digits and the time given to input the numbers is very limited, and >> IVRS >> >> then automatically readjust itself to give you a fresh attempt only to >> hear, >> >> you have acceded your maximum limits! >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Avichal Bhatnagar" <coolavic...@gmail.com> >> To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile >> phonesand Tabs." <mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 9:50 PM >> Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] There's Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to >> Shine on your Android device >> >> >> I also feel that physical keypad is the best. >> When using a full touch screen, using IVR service becomes totally >> impossible. >> >> On 5/22/15, Shyam M. Sayanekar <sayane...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hello Rajesh, I fully subscribe to your view, and some days back, I had >>> written in detail on this point. Thanks for your views. >>> Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar >>> Telephone: 0251-2438457 >>> Mobile: +91 9920410788 >>> Skype ID- sayanekar >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> >>> To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile >>> phonesand Tabs. " <mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 10:08 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] There's Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to >>> Shine on your Android device >>> >>> >>>> Good. >>>> May newer screen readers continue to shine on android. >>>> But, frankly, and here I believe I am speaking for most of totally >>>> blind >>>> persons above age of 35, that ease of symbian is surely missing in >>>> android >>>> >>>> touch screen phones, and I vehemently lament the loss of that ease and >>>> privacy on phone. >>>> For me, Even performing a simple task as forwarding messages is an >>>> uphill >>>> task even after trying and exploring touch screen for about eight >>>> months >>>> now. >>>> This will be the case until an android device with keypad comes along. >>>> >>>> >>>> With thanks and regards >>>> >>>> (Rajesh Asudani) >>>> >>>> AGM >>>> MIU >>>> Reserve Bank Of India >>>> Nagpur >>>> >>>> Co-Moderator >>>> VIB-India >>>> >>>> President >>>> VIBEWA >>>> >>>> Phone: 0712 2806846 >>>> >>>> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and >>>> Laughter >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Mobile.accessindia >>>> [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of >>>> Bhavya >>>> >>>> shah >>>> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 5:54 PM >>>> To: eyes-free; mobile.accessindia; keyboardusers >>>> Subject: [Mobile.AI] There's Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to >>>> Shine >>>> on your Android device >>>> >>>> There's Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine on your Android >>>> device TAMAS GECZY ON MAY 19, 2015 For the longest time, Talkback has >>>> been >>>> >>>> the only good and useful screen reader on Android -- though this was >>>> not >>>> always the case. Senior Android users might fondly recall Spiel, which >>>> was >>>> >>>> alive around 2011 last, a screen reader that even surpassed Talkback in >>>> functionality and speed. Google then suddenly changed the entire >>>> framework >>>> >>>> for how accessibility is done on their platform, and Spiel was no more. >>>> Although current compiled releases of it can be run successfully even >>>> under Android 5.1, the code is not often maintained and needs a lot of >>>> work to be a daily driver. >>>> And then, without warning, a new contender came on to the scene. The 1 >>>> megabyte screen reader, which is technically called Shine Plus is >>>> developed by a Chinese company called ATLab. As a result, the English >>>> text >>>> >>>> of the program and manual is not constructed well, though this does not >>>> take away from its functionality if you are willing to learn and be >>>> patient with the interface. The manual can be found here in a text file >>>> form. >>>> You might be wondering, is it better than Talkback? >>>> Before we dive into some of the unique features of Shine plus, we must >>>> note that it is a very special screen reader as it also includes a >>>> screen >>>> magnifier and other tools for people who have high-partial vision. This >>>> means that it not only is a screen reader, but also a magnifier at the >>>> same time. In the Android world, that's definitely a first, and this >>>> reason alone could make it useful for many people, since changing the >>>> mode >>>> >>>> it operates in is very simple. >>>> When you first install the Shine Plus application (it does not call >>>> itself >>>> >>>> "Another Talkback screen reader"), you need to launch the application >>>> from >>>> >>>> your home screen to configure it. Here you will set your desired mode >>>> depending on the level of vision you have. First, the app will actually >>>> check whether you have Google TTS or the keyboard installed, and then >>>> will >>>> >>>> proceed to allow you the option to set your mode of preference. Once >>>> you >>>> press the back button, it will place you into the Accessibility >>>> settings >>>> of Android, where you will be given a list of available services. >>>> The three options are "based on voice support", "based on letter >>>> expansion", and "sight protection." No, it will not protect you from >>>> the >>>> horrors of the sighted world -- that latter choice is for those who >>>> need >>>> to >>>> >>>> have parts of the screen spoken outloud from time to time. It allows >>>> you >>>> to use a "candy bar" which you can pan around the screen and use to >>>> read >>>> parts of it accordingly. >>>> Voice support is what those who are completely blind will use, while >>>> the >>>> other one (letter expansion) is for those who need letters zoomed >>>> bigger >>>> as they use their device. Once you have set your choice, enabling the >>>> screen reader is the next challenge. >>>> We have found that in most cases, it is impossible to press "OK" after >>>> the >>>> >>>> confirmation dialog appears which asks you to turn on Shine Plus. >>>> This is easy enough to resolve, though requires some agility. When you >>>> have reached the alert prompt to enable it, Pause Talkback either >>>> through >>>> the global context menu or the new volume up+ volume down key >>>> combination. >>>> >>>> Once paused, press near the bottom right corner of the screen, right >>>> above >>>> >>>> the home/back/recents button bar of your device. >>>> This will activate Shine plus, though you are not yet done. Lock the >>>> screen to have Talkback return. Next, go back and disable Talkback to >>>> have >>>> >>>> Shine Plus function properly. >>>> Some people have reported success with the "tripple click home" >>>> function of Shine Plus. Here, you would disable talkback and press your >>>> home button three times in quick succession to enable the service. This >>>> for us was a hit or miss on devices that do not have a physical home >>>> button- sometimes it works, other times not so. If you are using a >>>> Galaxy >>>> device however, simply disable talkback in Accessibility settings and >>>> press the home button three times. >>>> The screen reader offers some functionality not present in Talkback. >>>> For example, you can copy the screen to the clipboard, or parts of >>>> text. >>>> The "command panel" (similar to Talkback's global menu) is feature >>>> packed >>>> with other functions. There are two interesting ones called Ear Talk >>>> and >>>> whisper. With Ear Talk, you can choose a specific detail of your phone >>>> (battery status, last message) to be spoken through your phone's >>>> earpiece >>>> when it is held to your head. Ear Talk will redirect all speech to this >>>> speaker entirely, so (in theory) it could be used in situations where >>>> you >>>> are looking for privacy but do not have headphones. In practice, it is >>>> a >>>> bit tricky to use as a touch screen element can easily be activated. >>>> To access the command pannel, swipe right than left in quick >>>> succession. >>>> You will hear two high-pitched tones and the announcement, "command >>>> panel." Here are the options, from top to bottom, exploring the screen >>>> in >>>> >>>> a line left to right: >>>> * Top two lines: Includes speech and volume increments (2 stage speed >>>> on >>>> first line, / 70% volume, on second, for example.) * third line: Key >>>> echo. >>>> >>>> Notification method (Block or output all notifications), wi-fi (toggle >>>> on/off), Bluetooth (toggle on/off), cover mode (toggle on/off), speak >>>> call >>>> >>>> info, Whisper auto mode, and ear talk. >>>> * Third line: Short key, label (for graphics), marking (seems to auto >>>> label graphics?), version information, screen auto read, screen >>>> character >>>> string (spells out item in last focus), app delete, translation. >>>> * Fourth line - granularities: character, word, line, paragraph, >>>> default, >>>> copy, additional copy, paste. >>>> * Fifth line: Web list, web editbox, web phone number, Web search, >>>> Youtube >>>> >>>> search, app search, voice search. These open corresponding apps on your >>>> device, such as Youtube or the Voice Search app. >>>> * sixth line: Short key list, Shine setting, device (opens up your >>>> settings app), execute app list (opens up overview or recent apps >>>> list), >>>> sound (sound settings), Keyboard (language and input), accessibility >>>> (same >>>> >>>> as in settings.) No doubt this list is a bit overwhelming, and for this >>>> reason Shine Plus might be useful for more advanced users or those who >>>> just want a higher degree of customization. Talkback still wins for >>>> some, >>>> because it is simple to configure, is not cluttered, and thus less >>>> complicated. >>>> Similar to Talkback, it will tell you when you plug or unplug a power >>>> source. Scrolling is a bit problematic, because there is no proper >>>> earcon >>>> for knowing how far you are in a list -- it uses the Browse Mode exit >>>> sound >>>> >>>> from the popular NVDA screen reader to indicate scrolling. >>>> This was by far the largest problem with Shine Plus, and the manual is >>>> not >>>> >>>> very clear on what each setting is about. >>>> For users of devices that have capacitive buttons such as the Galaxy >>>> series, Shine Plus also allows you to double tap these (similar to how >>>> it >>>> would be on a nexus or soft-button based device), rather than using >>>> them >>>> with one tap. This feature, curiously, is also present in the latest >>>> Galaxy S6 as an accessibility setting. Other interesting features to >>>> note >>>> include the ability for seek controls to be raised or lowered with the >>>> volume keys (this is also now in Talkback 4.2), options to configure >>>> how >>>> the phone keypad works (and whether a swipe up on the screen will >>>> answer/end calls), configuring what notifications are read outloud, an >>>> option that unlocks your device automatically when power button is >>>> pressed >>>> >>>> (if there is no pin), and even a feature that will launch a specific >>>> application after your screen is turned on. >>>> Could this make a good daily screen reader? That's your call. For now, >>>> this is a project worth keeping tabs on, as it could give Google's >>>> efforts >>>> >>>> a serious run if it improves right over time. If you're patient and >>>> advanced enough, go ahead, give it a try. Just be sure to re-enable >>>> talkback if you uninstall it, because without a screen reader turned >>>> on, >>>> your phone will definitely not shine. >>>> Source: >>>> http://www.coolblindtech.com/theres-another-screen-reader-and-it-wants-to-shine-on-your-android-device/ >>>> -- >>>> Warm Regards >>>> Bhavya Shah >>>> Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen >>>> reader >>>> for Microsoft Windows To download a copy of the free screen reader >>>> NVDA, >>>> please visit http://www.nvaccess.org/ Using Google Talkback on >>>> Motorolla >>>> G >>>> >>>> second generation Lollipop 5.0.2 Reach me through the following means: >>>> Mobile: +91 7506221750 >>>> E-mail id: bhavya.shah...@gmail.com >>>> Skype id : bhavya.09 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Search for previous postings at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mobile.accessindia mailing list >>>> Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> Disclaimer: >>>> 1. 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