Re: [Mobile.AI] can one use touchscreen phone effectively atcrowdedplaces?

2014-07-28 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafel
Bluetooth earphone+bluetooth keypad would be the best alternative to
deal with such situations.


On 7/28/14, Dr. G. Janardhana Naidu  wrote:
> Hello Friends,
> After reading some of the mails in this thread, I wish to suggest an
> alternative way to handle the touch phone in crowd places. Bluetooth
> may be one among the options before us to consider. We can access
> basic features using blue tooth in android mobiles. Moreover, we can
> create some short cuts for important numbers in the home page.
> Thanks and regards,
> Janardhana Naidu.On 7/28/14, Sinoj  wrote:
>> My experience with touch screen is good except dialing by holding and
>> dialing with the same hand. If my both hands are free, I can fully enjoy
>> the
>>
>> touch phone. When compare to keypad phones, Finding items, using apps,
>> scroling are more more easier than keypad phones. We have to press arrow
>> keys many times to find an item from the list, but this is not the case
>> in
>> touch screen. If we know the position of the desired item, we can
>> directly
>> go to that areaa. Using headphone is good idea in a crowded area. For
>> dialing with one hand, headphone is not a solution. because we have to
>> use
>> both hands to connect headset. if  then we can dial by holding in one
>> hand
>> and touch with other hand, no need headset. For one hand dialing, I have
>> recently updated DW dialer to get the latest feature i.e, dialing when
>> lifting the finger. This is the feature I was waiting for. Now, I can
>> dial
>> numbers more efficiently with one hand. But when swiping through the
>> keypad,
>>
>> unwanted numbers also get typed which is irritating. Most of us using
>> Android 4.2 and above version, so they may not have such problems with
>> the
>> default dialer. But I am having 4.1 version.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: Satguru Rathi
>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 11:08 AM
>> To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of
>> mobilephonesand Tabs.
>> Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] can one use touchscreen phone effectively
>> atcrowdedplaces?
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> After reading so many mails on the subject, I firstly fail to understand
>> that why some of the so-called champians who have mastered over touch
>> screen
>> feel that everybody is going to learn this in similar manner? this thread
>> nowhere had any intention to criticize or praze any of the platform but
>> its
>> intent was to find solution for a very genuin issue with touch phones.
>> Some
>> said this might discourage new buyers to move on to touch screens but I
>> feel
>> the other way. If we are able to find solution for this, this would
>> indeed
>> add value for those who are considering to move on to the touch. Now
>> coming
>> to the issue, Mohib: I can use my iPhone effectively for calling
>> and/dialing
>> in any sort of environment with one hand but some times find problems in
>> crowded places while typing long messages/emails but can manage for short
>> messages. Depending on the environment, I use different solutions like
>> using
>> voice input or earphones. However, given the fact that we also need to
>> depend on the sound clues while walking, using an earphone may some time
>> lead to some undesirable consequence so would not suggest to use it while
>> walking and that too, when walking with a cane. So, I generally prefer to
>> avoid typing long messages/emails while on the move and preffer to do
>> this
>> once settled down unless it is very urgent. For calling, one can use
>> "Favorites" in iPhone to add some frequently called contacts for easy
>> access
>> while on the go.
>>
>>
>> With best regards,
>> Satguru
>> ___,__.___
>> "Life's battle do not always go, to the stronger or faster man. But
>> sooner
>> or later the one who wins, is the one who thinks he can."
>>
>> Satguru Rathi
>> Mobile: +91-9871489945
>> Email: satgurura...@yahoo.co.in
>> Skype: satgururathi
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/satguru.rathi.9
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mohib Anwar Rafel
>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 5:45 PM
>> To: mobile.accessindia
>> Subject: [Mobile.AI] can one use touchscreen phone effectively at
>> crowdedplaces?
>>
>> Hi Satguru, I have changed the subject and we can discuss the matter
>> here in this thread.
>> I am using android moto g for quite some time now. The most difficulty
>> I have faced with the dev

Re: [Mobile.AI] can one use touchscreen phone effectively atcrowdedplaces?

2014-07-28 Thread Dr. G. Janardhana Naidu
Hello Friends,
After reading some of the mails in this thread, I wish to suggest an
alternative way to handle the touch phone in crowd places. Bluetooth
may be one among the options before us to consider. We can access
basic features using blue tooth in android mobiles. Moreover, we can
create some short cuts for important numbers in the home page.
Thanks and regards,
Janardhana Naidu.On 7/28/14, Sinoj  wrote:
> My experience with touch screen is good except dialing by holding and
> dialing with the same hand. If my both hands are free, I can fully enjoy the
>
> touch phone. When compare to keypad phones, Finding items, using apps,
> scroling are more more easier than keypad phones. We have to press arrow
> keys many times to find an item from the list, but this is not the case in
> touch screen. If we know the position of the desired item, we can directly
> go to that areaa. Using headphone is good idea in a crowded area. For
> dialing with one hand, headphone is not a solution. because we have to use
> both hands to connect headset. if  then we can dial by holding in one hand
> and touch with other hand, no need headset. For one hand dialing, I have
> recently updated DW dialer to get the latest feature i.e, dialing when
> lifting the finger. This is the feature I was waiting for. Now, I can dial
> numbers more efficiently with one hand. But when swiping through the keypad,
>
> unwanted numbers also get typed which is irritating. Most of us using
> Android 4.2 and above version, so they may not have such problems with the
> default dialer. But I am having 4.1 version.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Satguru Rathi
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 11:08 AM
> To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of
> mobilephonesand Tabs.
> Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] can one use touchscreen phone effectively
> atcrowdedplaces?
>
> Hi all,
>
> After reading so many mails on the subject, I firstly fail to understand
> that why some of the so-called champians who have mastered over touch
> screen
> feel that everybody is going to learn this in similar manner? this thread
> nowhere had any intention to criticize or praze any of the platform but its
> intent was to find solution for a very genuin issue with touch phones. Some
> said this might discourage new buyers to move on to touch screens but I
> feel
> the other way. If we are able to find solution for this, this would indeed
> add value for those who are considering to move on to the touch. Now coming
> to the issue, Mohib: I can use my iPhone effectively for calling
> and/dialing
> in any sort of environment with one hand but some times find problems in
> crowded places while typing long messages/emails but can manage for short
> messages. Depending on the environment, I use different solutions like
> using
> voice input or earphones. However, given the fact that we also need to
> depend on the sound clues while walking, using an earphone may some time
> lead to some undesirable consequence so would not suggest to use it while
> walking and that too, when walking with a cane. So, I generally prefer to
> avoid typing long messages/emails while on the move and preffer to do this
> once settled down unless it is very urgent. For calling, one can use
> "Favorites" in iPhone to add some frequently called contacts for easy
> access
> while on the go.
>
>
> With best regards,
> Satguru
> ___,__.___
> "Life's battle do not always go, to the stronger or faster man. But sooner
> or later the one who wins, is the one who thinks he can."
>
> Satguru Rathi
> Mobile: +91-9871489945
> Email: satgurura...@yahoo.co.in
> Skype: satgururathi
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/satguru.rathi.9
> -Original Message-
> From: Mohib Anwar Rafel
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 5:45 PM
> To: mobile.accessindia
> Subject: [Mobile.AI] can one use touchscreen phone effectively at
> crowdedplaces?
>
> Hi Satguru, I have changed the subject and we can discuss the matter
> here in this thread.
> I am using android moto g for quite some time now. The most difficulty
> I have faced with the device is that I am totally handicapped using my
> touchscreen phone at crowded places, such as at railway station,
> market, or if I am walking on the road.
> Suppose, if I am waiting for someone at railway station or at some
> busy streat, first of all I have to hold the phone with both hands,
> then have to swipe number of times to get the contact of person to
> whom I want to call.
> It seems very difficult specially when I am holding some luggage etc
> in my hand. Even to dial the number you have to find out the digit at
> the screen, than lift your finger, if some digit is entered wrongly,
>

Re: [Mobile.AI] can one use touchscreen phone effectively atcrowdedplaces?

2014-07-27 Thread Sinoj
My experience with touch screen is good except dialing by holding and 
dialing with the same hand. If my both hands are free, I can fully enjoy the 
touch phone. When compare to keypad phones, Finding items, using apps, 
scroling are more more easier than keypad phones. We have to press arrow 
keys many times to find an item from the list, but this is not the case in 
touch screen. If we know the position of the desired item, we can directly 
go to that areaa. Using headphone is good idea in a crowded area. For 
dialing with one hand, headphone is not a solution. because we have to use 
both hands to connect headset. if  then we can dial by holding in one hand 
and touch with other hand, no need headset. For one hand dialing, I have 
recently updated DW dialer to get the latest feature i.e, dialing when 
lifting the finger. This is the feature I was waiting for. Now, I can dial 
numbers more efficiently with one hand. But when swiping through the keypad, 
unwanted numbers also get typed which is irritating. Most of us using 
Android 4.2 and above version, so they may not have such problems with the 
default dialer. But I am having 4.1 version.



-Original Message- 
From: Satguru Rathi

Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 11:08 AM
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of 
mobilephonesand Tabs.
Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] can one use touchscreen phone effectively 
atcrowdedplaces?


Hi all,

After reading so many mails on the subject, I firstly fail to understand
that why some of the so-called champians who have mastered over touch screen
feel that everybody is going to learn this in similar manner? this thread
nowhere had any intention to criticize or praze any of the platform but its
intent was to find solution for a very genuin issue with touch phones. Some
said this might discourage new buyers to move on to touch screens but I feel
the other way. If we are able to find solution for this, this would indeed
add value for those who are considering to move on to the touch. Now coming
to the issue, Mohib: I can use my iPhone effectively for calling and/dialing
in any sort of environment with one hand but some times find problems in
crowded places while typing long messages/emails but can manage for short
messages. Depending on the environment, I use different solutions like using
voice input or earphones. However, given the fact that we also need to
depend on the sound clues while walking, using an earphone may some time
lead to some undesirable consequence so would not suggest to use it while
walking and that too, when walking with a cane. So, I generally prefer to
avoid typing long messages/emails while on the move and preffer to do this
once settled down unless it is very urgent. For calling, one can use
"Favorites" in iPhone to add some frequently called contacts for easy access
while on the go.


With best regards,
Satguru
___,__.___
"Life's battle do not always go, to the stronger or faster man. But sooner
or later the one who wins, is the one who thinks he can."

Satguru Rathi
Mobile: +91-9871489945
Email: satgurura...@yahoo.co.in
Skype: satgururathi
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/satguru.rathi.9
-Original Message- 
From: Mohib Anwar Rafel

Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 5:45 PM
To: mobile.accessindia
Subject: [Mobile.AI] can one use touchscreen phone effectively at
crowdedplaces?

Hi Satguru, I have changed the subject and we can discuss the matter
here in this thread.
I am using android moto g for quite some time now. The most difficulty
I have faced with the device is that I am totally handicapped using my
touchscreen phone at crowded places, such as at railway station,
market, or if I am walking on the road.
Suppose, if I am waiting for someone at railway station or at some
busy streat, first of all I have to hold the phone with both hands,
then have to swipe number of times to get the contact of person to
whom I want to call.
It seems very difficult specially when I am holding some luggage etc
in my hand. Even to dial the number you have to find out the digit at
the screen, than lift your finger, if some digit is entered wrongly,
find the button to delete. More over sending text messages under these
circumstances is very very difficult.
Similar is the story when I am walking on the road and I just want to
talk to somebody or to text anyperson, I will have to stand somewhere,
find the number and then call or sms.
Over all it is very cumbersome to use touchscreen device during such
circumstances. My nokia n79 became malfunctioned last week, due to
these problems which I faced, I got my nokia repaired, and I am very
very happy with my Symbian.
So my question is that how do you people deal with your touchscreen
phone at such places? is there any difference between android and
iPhone regarding using phone particularly at crowded places? is iPhone
is more easy to handle?

--
Mohib Anwar Rafel
M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013
Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharl

Re: [Mobile.AI] can one use touchscreen phone effectively atcrowdedplaces?

2014-07-25 Thread Prasanth P.V.
inorder to prevent things from moving you have to turn off the screen
rotation option in the accessability settings or talk back settings.
this will help you to find buttons in a fixed place

On 7/26/14, Shyam M. Sayanekar  wrote:
> Itt is not at all true that we Indians do not want to learn new things. It
> is also not true that we want to stick to old things. Those who are arguing
>
> in this way should remember that they are also Indians. Those who have
> mastered the  new Android phones have gone far ahead and are not in a mood
> to understand that others are facing some genuin problems. I am trying my
> best to learn my Moto x phone but I am not getting proper training. Instead
>
> of criticizing others, the members who have mastered the Android phones
> should try to help others. My problem is that on the android phone, things
> keep moving and they have no fixed places. for example, it becomes very
> difficult to locate the More Options button. Unless your queries are solved,
>
> you cannot learn this phone on your own. further, many of the buttons are
> not labled. at least Android should have taken care of this point.
> Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
> Telephone: 0251-2438457
> Mobile: +91 9920410788
> Skype ID- sayanekar
> - Original Message -
> From: "Salim qureshi" 
> To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
> phonesand Tabs." 
> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 6:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] can one use touchscreen phone effectively
> atcrowdedplaces?
>
>
>> the main problem with we indians is that, we dont want to learn new
>> things. Every thing we want is just spoon feeding. Friends, if anybody
>> dont want learn android, dont learn it. But please dont creat
>> confusion for the new learners. Your nagative comments will do nothing
>> but discorrage them. For some one, android is waste of time, but
>> android is today's demand. And i dont know when our chalta hai
>> attitute will change. I just want to tell that simbian and nokia is
>> ded now so stop crying. So learn new technology, and let others also
>> learn it.
>>
>> On 7/25/14, surendra salgaonkar  wrote:
>>> I just instal DW dialer pro, in wich 1000 contacts can be fixt. I do
>>> not find it difficult. Only my speaker has low voice, but it is OK!
>>> Since we purchase it, we have to make it useful part of our life with
>>> no complain.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/25/14, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
>>>> Surprisingly for all of you,
>>>> Since the 1st day when I got my Moto G, I trashed my e5 just because I
>>>> feel that human beings always preffer easy ways.
>>>> I can only learn using moto G if I don't have anything to support.
>>>> And let me mention that, I have placed some of my contacts on home
>>>> screen using direct dial, I always carry a pare of earphones with me
>>>> and could do anything at Mumbai railway stations as well!
>>>> I just try to keep myself at a side, plug in the earphones and then I
>>>> am good to go.
>>>> After 1 week of tough training for myself, I don't miss my dear old
>>>> companion anymore!
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ajay
>>>>
>>>> On 7/25/14, Shyam M. Sayanekar  wrote:
>>>>> Hello Mohib, you are absolutely right. The Nokia phone can be handled
>>>>> only
>>>>> with one hand, that too only with a single thumb, whereas, in case of
>>>>> the
>>>>> touch screen phone we must use both the hands. I also got my Nokia
>>>>> repaired
>>>>>
>>>>> and am very happy to get it back. Only the things is that how long
>>>>> these
>>>>> phones would support us is a matter of concern.
>>>>> Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
>>>>> Telephone: 0251-2438457
>>>>> Mobile: +91 9920410788
>>>>> Skype ID- sayanekar
>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: "Mohib Anwar Rafel" 
>>>>> To: "mobile.accessindia" 
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 5:45 PM
>>>>> Subject: [Mobile.AI] can one use touchscreen phone effectively at
>>>>> crowdedplaces?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Satguru, I have changed the subject and we can discuss the matter
>>>>>> here in this thread.
>>>>>> I am using android moto g for quite some time now. The most
>>>>>> difficulty
>>>>>> I have faced wi

Re: [Mobile.AI] can one use touchscreen phone effectively atcrowdedplaces?

2014-07-25 Thread Shyam M. Sayanekar
Itt is not at all true that we Indians do not want to learn new things. It 
is also not true that we want to stick to old things. Those who are arguing 
in this way should remember that they are also Indians. Those who have 
mastered the  new Android phones have gone far ahead and are not in a mood 
to understand that others are facing some genuin problems. I am trying my 
best to learn my Moto x phone but I am not getting proper training. Instead 
of criticizing others, the members who have mastered the Android phones 
should try to help others. My problem is that on the android phone, things 
keep moving and they have no fixed places. for example, it becomes very 
difficult to locate the More Options button. Unless your queries are solved, 
you cannot learn this phone on your own. further, many of the buttons are 
not labled. at least Android should have taken care of this point.

Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
Telephone: 0251-2438457
Mobile: +91 9920410788
Skype ID- sayanekar
- Original Message - 
From: "Salim qureshi" 
To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile 
phonesand Tabs." 

Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 6:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] can one use touchscreen phone effectively 
atcrowdedplaces?




the main problem with we indians is that, we dont want to learn new
things. Every thing we want is just spoon feeding. Friends, if anybody
dont want learn android, dont learn it. But please dont creat
confusion for the new learners. Your nagative comments will do nothing
but discorrage them. For some one, android is waste of time, but
android is today's demand. And i dont know when our chalta hai
attitute will change. I just want to tell that simbian and nokia is
ded now so stop crying. So learn new technology, and let others also
learn it.

On 7/25/14, surendra salgaonkar  wrote:

I just instal DW dialer pro, in wich 1000 contacts can be fixt. I do
not find it difficult. Only my speaker has low voice, but it is OK!
Since we purchase it, we have to make it useful part of our life with
no complain.


On 7/25/14, Ajay Minocha  wrote:

Surprisingly for all of you,
Since the 1st day when I got my Moto G, I trashed my e5 just because I
feel that human beings always preffer easy ways.
I can only learn using moto G if I don't have anything to support.
And let me mention that, I have placed some of my contacts on home
screen using direct dial, I always carry a pare of earphones with me
and could do anything at Mumbai railway stations as well!
I just try to keep myself at a side, plug in the earphones and then I
am good to go.
After 1 week of tough training for myself, I don't miss my dear old
companion anymore!
Thanks,
Ajay

On 7/25/14, Shyam M. Sayanekar  wrote:

Hello Mohib, you are absolutely right. The Nokia phone can be handled
only
with one hand, that too only with a single thumb, whereas, in case of
the
touch screen phone we must use both the hands. I also got my Nokia
repaired

and am very happy to get it back. Only the things is that how long 
these

phones would support us is a matter of concern.
Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
Telephone: 0251-2438457
Mobile: +91 9920410788
Skype ID- sayanekar
- Original Message -
From: "Mohib Anwar Rafel" 
To: "mobile.accessindia" 
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 5:45 PM
Subject: [Mobile.AI] can one use touchscreen phone effectively at
crowdedplaces?



Hi Satguru, I have changed the subject and we can discuss the matter
here in this thread.
I am using android moto g for quite some time now. The most difficulty
I have faced with the device is that I am totally handicapped using my
touchscreen phone at crowded places, such as at railway station,
market, or if I am walking on the road.
Suppose, if I am waiting for someone at railway station or at some
busy streat, first of all I have to hold the phone with both hands,
then have to swipe number of times to get the contact of person to
whom I want to call.
It seems very difficult specially when I am holding some luggage etc
in my hand. Even to dial the number you have to find out the digit at
the screen, than lift your finger, if some digit is entered wrongly,
find the button to delete. More over sending text messages under these
circumstances is very very difficult.
Similar is the story when I am walking on the road and I just want to
talk to somebody or to text anyperson, I will have to stand somewhere,
find the number and then call or sms.
Over all it is very cumbersome to use touchscreen device during such
circumstances. My nokia n79 became malfunctioned last week, due to
these problems which I faced, I got my nokia repaired, and I am very
very happy with my Symbian.
So my question is that how do you people deal with your touchscreen
phone at such places? is there any difference between android and
iPhone regarding using phone particularly at crowded places? is iPhone
is more easy to handle?

--
Mohib Anwar Rafel
M.P