Re: [Mobile.AI] which phone should you buy?
so finally almost all my doubts cleared now. Great observation... Thanks for such an informative mail. Even vamshi sir will be agree with me, i am sure for that On 4/19/13, prateek aggarwal wrote: > Folks: > during my stay on this list from last few days, I’ve been able to > observe that there are quite a lot of confusions in regards to which > phone one should buy, and specially the accessibility of android based > phones. > Being a user of a number of phones right from symbian second edition > to the smartphone breeds, I thought to answer the questions based on > my personal observations and experiences if they can help someone in > some ways. > Like vamshi bro pointed out, choosing a suitable phone has really > become million dollar question these days keeping in mind: > I phone(costly), Nokia (outdated), Android(confusing) etc. > iPhone, particularly is indeed very accessible, but its far too costly > than most users shall appreciate to buy. Hence, I’d like to > specifically focus on whether one should buy nokia or android, and > what specific things one should keep in mind in order to choose an > android phone. > > well, the answer to that question is indeed difficult, and actually > quite subjective to the choice and circumstances of every > individual. > say, for instance, those who do not have much time/interest to > explore and just require a solution that's tried and tested, > some phones of nokia are still available in the stock unofficially, > that they can buy and start using right away. > it, however is the reality that symbian is no more available and > no further such phones are being manufactured by the company > anymore. therefore, android is the best option keeping the > availability, cost and accessibility in mind. about android > version, both 4.0 and 4.1 are accessible, none of them is 100% > accessible though. > well you have to accept the fact that android is comparitively new > and while i personally appreciate google's efforts of implementing > out of the box accessibility features, it'll obviously take time to > jell with the expectations of the visually challenged individuals who > as well have diverse needs/requirements depending on their > environments and demographics. > > so, if you choose to buy the android phone, keep the following things in > mind: > > •whatever someone might claim, no android phone is 100 percent > accessible as of now, though the statement depends on what tasks you > would like to perform with your phone, as a lot of them shall be > accessible and a lot of them won't be. > > •android requires the user to have quite a learning curve and the > patience as one might need to install, try and test with a number of > third party apps in order to get some tasks done. so if you are not > interested/motivated for the same, reconsider your decision. > > •most of the android based phones that you'll find in the market are > touchscreen based. while the android certainly has accessibility > features to enable users to use touch screen with > screenreaders/magnification applications, i can tell you out of my > personal experiences that the best speed and comfort that you can find > is to have the phone that has both touch and type available, although > i'm fortunate to be able to use 100 percent touchscreen phones as well > with quite a reasonable speed. > > •the tasks like messaging, contacts, phone, music, camera etc are over > 90 percent accessible in my experience. > •Log is slightly inaccessible in comparision to nokia phone, but still > manageable. > •GPS works fairly good, and the support of google maps is excellent. > •fm radio is slightly inaccessible, internet radios are manageable > with the help of third party apps. > •There are apps available for emailing, facebook, twitter, skype, call > recording, dictionary, daisy book reading and other such basic tasks, > which are reasonaablly accessible. > •reading word, excel and pdf document is not much accessible as yet. > •there are apps for colour identification, face recognition, OCR etc > which though are not perfectly developed as yet, but certainly looks > promising. > > •the versions of android shall keep improving, and they really have > to. however, the accessibility available in android 4.0 and 4.1 is > quite reasonable, and either of them can be chosen with no hezitations > as such. even the 4.0, for instance provides you quite a number of > options to use the phone accessiblly, and 4.1. only adds the icing on > the cake. personally, i did not find much of a difference in 4.1 and > 4.2 though. > > •considering the fact that android does have the in-built > accessibility options available, most of the phones that you buy from > the market should be usable without much of a configguration. though, > i personally found out that some phones of HTC and LG were using a > broken accessibility architecture, and did have issues that are not > found in many of the companion phones. > >
Re: [Mobile.AI] which phone should you buy?
so what is your decision to buy the phone? please suggest the model with which we can accomplish most of our task. thanks, On 4/19/13, ishita kapoor wrote: > so finally almost all my doubts cleared now. > Great observation... Thanks for such an informative mail. Even vamshi > sir will be agree with me, i am sure for that > > On 4/19/13, prateek aggarwal wrote: >> Folks: >> during my stay on this list from last few days, I’ve been able to >> observe that there are quite a lot of confusions in regards to which >> phone one should buy, and specially the accessibility of android based >> phones. >> Being a user of a number of phones right from symbian second edition >> to the smartphone breeds, I thought to answer the questions based on >> my personal observations and experiences if they can help someone in >> some ways. >> Like vamshi bro pointed out, choosing a suitable phone has really >> become million dollar question these days keeping in mind: >> I phone(costly), Nokia (outdated), Android(confusing) etc. >> iPhone, particularly is indeed very accessible, but its far too costly >> than most users shall appreciate to buy. Hence, I’d like to >> specifically focus on whether one should buy nokia or android, and >> what specific things one should keep in mind in order to choose an >> android phone. >> >> well, the answer to that question is indeed difficult, and actually >> quite subjective to the choice and circumstances of every >> individual. >> say, for instance, those who do not have much time/interest to >> explore and just require a solution that's tried and tested, >> some phones of nokia are still available in the stock unofficially, >> that they can buy and start using right away. >> it, however is the reality that symbian is no more available and >> no further such phones are being manufactured by the company >> anymore. therefore, android is the best option keeping the >> availability, cost and accessibility in mind. about android >> version, both 4.0 and 4.1 are accessible, none of them is 100% >> accessible though. >> well you have to accept the fact that android is comparitively new >> and while i personally appreciate google's efforts of implementing >> out of the box accessibility features, it'll obviously take time to >> jell with the expectations of the visually challenged individuals who >> as well have diverse needs/requirements depending on their >> environments and demographics. >> >> so, if you choose to buy the android phone, keep the following things in >> mind: >> >> •whatever someone might claim, no android phone is 100 percent >> accessible as of now, though the statement depends on what tasks you >> would like to perform with your phone, as a lot of them shall be >> accessible and a lot of them won't be. >> >> •android requires the user to have quite a learning curve and the >> patience as one might need to install, try and test with a number of >> third party apps in order to get some tasks done. so if you are not >> interested/motivated for the same, reconsider your decision. >> >> •most of the android based phones that you'll find in the market are >> touchscreen based. while the android certainly has accessibility >> features to enable users to use touch screen with >> screenreaders/magnification applications, i can tell you out of my >> personal experiences that the best speed and comfort that you can find >> is to have the phone that has both touch and type available, although >> i'm fortunate to be able to use 100 percent touchscreen phones as well >> with quite a reasonable speed. >> >> •the tasks like messaging, contacts, phone, music, camera etc are over >> 90 percent accessible in my experience. >> •Log is slightly inaccessible in comparision to nokia phone, but still >> manageable. >> •GPS works fairly good, and the support of google maps is excellent. >> •fm radio is slightly inaccessible, internet radios are manageable >> with the help of third party apps. >> •There are apps available for emailing, facebook, twitter, skype, call >> recording, dictionary, daisy book reading and other such basic tasks, >> which are reasonaablly accessible. >> •reading word, excel and pdf document is not much accessible as yet. >> •there are apps for colour identification, face recognition, OCR etc >> which though are not perfectly developed as yet, but certainly looks >> promising. >> >> •the versions of android shall keep improving, and they really have >> to. however, the accessibility available in android 4.0 and 4.1 is >> quite reasonable, and either of them can be chosen with no hezitations >> as such. even the 4.0, for instance provides you quite a number of >> options to use the phone accessiblly, and 4.1. only adds the icing on >> the cake. personally, i did not find much of a difference in 4.1 and >> 4.2 though. >> >> •considering the fact that android does have the in-built >> accessibility options available, most of the phones that you buy from >
Re: [Mobile.AI] which phone should you buy?
yes if you can suggest some tested model then it will be of great help. Is there any budget 4.1 android in your mind? On 4/19/13, mukesh jain wrote: > so what is your decision to buy the phone? please suggest the model > with which we can accomplish most of our task. > thanks, > > On 4/19/13, ishita kapoor wrote: >> so finally almost all my doubts cleared now. >> Great observation... Thanks for such an informative mail. Even vamshi >> sir will be agree with me, i am sure for that >> >> On 4/19/13, prateek aggarwal wrote: >>> Folks: >>> during my stay on this list from last few days, I’ve been able to >>> observe that there are quite a lot of confusions in regards to which >>> phone one should buy, and specially the accessibility of android based >>> phones. >>> Being a user of a number of phones right from symbian second edition >>> to the smartphone breeds, I thought to answer the questions based on >>> my personal observations and experiences if they can help someone in >>> some ways. >>> Like vamshi bro pointed out, choosing a suitable phone has really >>> become million dollar question these days keeping in mind: >>> I phone(costly), Nokia (outdated), Android(confusing) etc. >>> iPhone, particularly is indeed very accessible, but its far too costly >>> than most users shall appreciate to buy. Hence, I’d like to >>> specifically focus on whether one should buy nokia or android, and >>> what specific things one should keep in mind in order to choose an >>> android phone. >>> >>> well, the answer to that question is indeed difficult, and actually >>> quite subjective to the choice and circumstances of every >>> individual. >>> say, for instance, those who do not have much time/interest to >>> explore and just require a solution that's tried and tested, >>> some phones of nokia are still available in the stock unofficially, >>> that they can buy and start using right away. >>> it, however is the reality that symbian is no more available and >>> no further such phones are being manufactured by the company >>> anymore. therefore, android is the best option keeping the >>> availability, cost and accessibility in mind. about android >>> version, both 4.0 and 4.1 are accessible, none of them is 100% >>> accessible though. >>> well you have to accept the fact that android is comparitively new >>> and while i personally appreciate google's efforts of implementing >>> out of the box accessibility features, it'll obviously take time to >>> jell with the expectations of the visually challenged individuals who >>> as well have diverse needs/requirements depending on their >>> environments and demographics. >>> >>> so, if you choose to buy the android phone, keep the following things >>> in >>> mind: >>> >>> •whatever someone might claim, no android phone is 100 percent >>> accessible as of now, though the statement depends on what tasks you >>> would like to perform with your phone, as a lot of them shall be >>> accessible and a lot of them won't be. >>> >>> •android requires the user to have quite a learning curve and the >>> patience as one might need to install, try and test with a number of >>> third party apps in order to get some tasks done. so if you are not >>> interested/motivated for the same, reconsider your decision. >>> >>> •most of the android based phones that you'll find in the market are >>> touchscreen based. while the android certainly has accessibility >>> features to enable users to use touch screen with >>> screenreaders/magnification applications, i can tell you out of my >>> personal experiences that the best speed and comfort that you can find >>> is to have the phone that has both touch and type available, although >>> i'm fortunate to be able to use 100 percent touchscreen phones as well >>> with quite a reasonable speed. >>> >>> •the tasks like messaging, contacts, phone, music, camera etc are over >>> 90 percent accessible in my experience. >>> •Log is slightly inaccessible in comparision to nokia phone, but still >>> manageable. >>> •GPS works fairly good, and the support of google maps is excellent. >>> •fm radio is slightly inaccessible, internet radios are manageable >>> with the help of third party apps. >>> •There are apps available for emailing, facebook, twitter, skype, call >>> recording, dictionary, daisy book reading and other such basic tasks, >>> which are reasonaablly accessible. >>> •reading word, excel and pdf document is not much accessible as yet. >>> •there are apps for colour identification, face recognition, OCR etc >>> which though are not perfectly developed as yet, but certainly looks >>> promising. >>> >>> •the versions of android shall keep improving, and they really have >>> to. however, the accessibility available in android 4.0 and 4.1 is >>> quite reasonable, and either of them can be chosen with no hezitations >>> as such. even the 4.0, for instance provides you quite a number of >>> options to use the phone accessiblly, and 4.1.
Re: [Mobile.AI] which phone should you buy?
-Original Message- From: Mobile.accessindia [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of prateek aggarwal Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 6:01 PM To: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [Mobile.AI] which phone should you buy? Folks: during my stay on this list from last few days, I've been able to observe that there are quite a lot of confusions in regards to which phone one should buy, and specially the accessibility of android based phones. Being a user of a number of phones right from symbian second edition to the smartphone breeds, I thought to answer the questions based on my personal observations and experiences if they can help someone in some ways. Like vamshi bro pointed out, choosing a suitable phone has really become million dollar question these days keeping in mind: I phone(costly), Nokia (outdated), Android(confusing) etc. iPhone, particularly is indeed very accessible, but its far too costly than most users shall appreciate to buy. Hence, I'd like to specifically focus on whether one should buy nokia or android, and what specific things one should keep in mind in order to choose an android phone. well, the answer to that question is indeed difficult, and actually quite subjective to the choice and circumstances of every individual. say, for instance, those who do not have much time/interest to explore and just require a solution that's tried and tested, some phones of nokia are still available in the stock unofficially, that they can buy and start using right away. it, however is the reality that symbian is no more available and no further such phones are being manufactured by the company anymore. therefore, android is the best option keeping the availability, cost and accessibility in mind. about android version, both 4.0 and 4.1 are accessible, none of them is 100% accessible though. well you have to accept the fact that android is comparitively new and while i personally appreciate google's efforts of implementing out of the box accessibility features, it'll obviously take time to jell with the expectations of the visually challenged individuals who as well have diverse needs/requirements depending on their environments and demographics. so, if you choose to buy the android phone, keep the following things in mind: .whatever someone might claim, no android phone is 100 percent accessible as of now, though the statement depends on what tasks you would like to perform with your phone, as a lot of them shall be accessible and a lot of them won't be. .android requires the user to have quite a learning curve and the patience as one might need to install, try and test with a number of third party apps in order to get some tasks done. so if you are not interested/motivated for the same, reconsider your decision. .most of the android based phones that you'll find in the market are touchscreen based. while the android certainly has accessibility features to enable users to use touch screen with screenreaders/magnification applications, i can tell you out of my personal experiences that the best speed and comfort that you can find is to have the phone that has both touch and type available, although i'm fortunate to be able to use 100 percent touchscreen phones as well with quite a reasonable speed. .the tasks like messaging, contacts, phone, music, camera etc are over 90 percent accessible in my experience. .Log is slightly inaccessible in comparision to nokia phone, but still manageable. .GPS works fairly good, and the support of google maps is excellent. .fm radio is slightly inaccessible, internet radios are manageable with the help of third party apps. .There are apps available for emailing, facebook, twitter, skype, call recording, dictionary, daisy book reading and other such basic tasks, which are reasonaablly accessible. .reading word, excel and pdf document is not much accessible as yet. .there are apps for colour identification, face recognition, OCR etc which though are not perfectly developed as yet, but certainly looks promising. .the versions of android shall keep improving, and they really have to. however, the accessibility available in android 4.0 and 4.1 is quite reasonable, and either of them can be chosen with no hezitations as such. even the 4.0, for instance provides you quite a number of options to use the phone accessiblly, and 4.1. only adds the icing on the cake. personally, i did not find much of a difference in 4.1 and 4.2 though. .considering the fact that android does have the in-built accessibility options available, most of the phones that you buy from the market should be usable without much of a configguration. though, i personally found out that some phones of HTC and LG were using a broken accessibility architecture, and did have issues that are not found in many of the companion phones. .rs. 10 to 12 thousand is quite a reasonable amount to obtain a good android phone. fortunately, you
Re: [Mobile.AI] which phone should you buy?
Hi very nicely summarised dilemma of choosing between nokia and android. I would like to add here that blackberry is also working on its screen reader and has also brought out an update. although the models supported are few in numbers, it may offer the convenience of a qwerty phone with very nice build quality. There is little doubt about the sturdiness and stability of blackberry devices and if they continue to improve upon their screen readers, it could be a very nice option for the VI. But obviously someone will have to take the plunge and experiment with the blackberry model. I have come to know that even reliance CDMA has such an option called the blackberry curve 9350. So we may finally have an accessible CDMA phone in india. One thing worth noting is that the blackberry screen reader is also free although it has to be installed manually first. On 19/04/2013, S R Mittal wrote: > > > -Original Message- > From: Mobile.accessindia > [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of prateek > aggarwal > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 6:01 PM > To: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: [Mobile.AI] which phone should you buy? > > Folks: > during my stay on this list from last few days, I've been able to > observe that there are quite a lot of confusions in regards to which > phone one should buy, and specially the accessibility of android based > phones. > Being a user of a number of phones right from symbian second edition > to the smartphone breeds, I thought to answer the questions based on > my personal observations and experiences if they can help someone in > some ways. > Like vamshi bro pointed out, choosing a suitable phone has really > become million dollar question these days keeping in mind: > I phone(costly), Nokia (outdated), Android(confusing) etc. > iPhone, particularly is indeed very accessible, but its far too costly > than most users shall appreciate to buy. Hence, I'd like to > specifically focus on whether one should buy nokia or android, and > what specific things one should keep in mind in order to choose an > android phone. > > well, the answer to that question is indeed difficult, and actually > quite subjective to the choice and circumstances of every > individual. > say, for instance, those who do not have much time/interest to > explore and just require a solution that's tried and tested, > some phones of nokia are still available in the stock unofficially, > that they can buy and start using right away. > it, however is the reality that symbian is no more available and > no further such phones are being manufactured by the company > anymore. therefore, android is the best option keeping the > availability, cost and accessibility in mind. about android > version, both 4.0 and 4.1 are accessible, none of them is 100% > accessible though. > well you have to accept the fact that android is comparitively new > and while i personally appreciate google's efforts of implementing > out of the box accessibility features, it'll obviously take time to > jell with the expectations of the visually challenged individuals who > as well have diverse needs/requirements depending on their > environments and demographics. > > so, if you choose to buy the android phone, keep the following things in > mind: > > .whatever someone might claim, no android phone is 100 percent > accessible as of now, though the statement depends on what tasks you > would like to perform with your phone, as a lot of them shall be > accessible and a lot of them won't be. > > .android requires the user to have quite a learning curve and the > patience as one might need to install, try and test with a number of > third party apps in order to get some tasks done. so if you are not > interested/motivated for the same, reconsider your decision. > > .most of the android based phones that you'll find in the market are > touchscreen based. while the android certainly has accessibility > features to enable users to use touch screen with > screenreaders/magnification applications, i can tell you out of my > personal experiences that the best speed and comfort that you can find > is to have the phone that has both touch and type available, although > i'm fortunate to be able to use 100 percent touchscreen phones as well > with quite a reasonable speed. > > .the tasks like messaging, contacts, phone, music, camera etc are over > 90 percent accessible in my experience. > .Log is slightly inaccessible in comparision to nokia phone, but still > manageable. > .GPS works fairly good, and the support of google maps is excellent. > .fm radio is slightly inaccessible, internet radios are manageable > with the help of third party apps. > .There are apps available for emailing, facebook, twitter, skype, call > recording, dictionary, daisy book reading and other such basic tasks, > which are reasonaablly accessible. > .reading word, excel and pdf document is not much accessible as yet
Re: [Mobile.AI] which phone should you buy?
Dear Friend, This was one of the most important mails which I have ever read regarding accesibility. Though some of the list members tried to solve the issues, none of them gave such a nice explanation! Eventhough you said it precisely, as others, I too request you to be specific in suggesting a wonderful model which can be updated in the future. Thanks for your time and look forward for your positive response. Kindest Regards, Mujeeb Rahman On 4/19/13, S R Mittal wrote: > > > -Original Message- > From: Mobile.accessindia > [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of prateek > aggarwal > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 6:01 PM > To: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: [Mobile.AI] which phone should you buy? > > Folks: > during my stay on this list from last few days, I've been able to > observe that there are quite a lot of confusions in regards to which > phone one should buy, and specially the accessibility of android based > phones. > Being a user of a number of phones right from symbian second edition > to the smartphone breeds, I thought to answer the questions based on > my personal observations and experiences if they can help someone in > some ways. > Like vamshi bro pointed out, choosing a suitable phone has really > become million dollar question these days keeping in mind: > I phone(costly), Nokia (outdated), Android(confusing) etc. > iPhone, particularly is indeed very accessible, but its far too costly > than most users shall appreciate to buy. Hence, I'd like to > specifically focus on whether one should buy nokia or android, and > what specific things one should keep in mind in order to choose an > android phone. > > well, the answer to that question is indeed difficult, and actually > quite subjective to the choice and circumstances of every > individual. > say, for instance, those who do not have much time/interest to > explore and just require a solution that's tried and tested, > some phones of nokia are still available in the stock unofficially, > that they can buy and start using right away. > it, however is the reality that symbian is no more available and > no further such phones are being manufactured by the company > anymore. therefore, android is the best option keeping the > availability, cost and accessibility in mind. about android > version, both 4.0 and 4.1 are accessible, none of them is 100% > accessible though. > well you have to accept the fact that android is comparitively new > and while i personally appreciate google's efforts of implementing > out of the box accessibility features, it'll obviously take time to > jell with the expectations of the visually challenged individuals who > as well have diverse needs/requirements depending on their > environments and demographics. > > so, if you choose to buy the android phone, keep the following things in > mind: > > .whatever someone might claim, no android phone is 100 percent > accessible as of now, though the statement depends on what tasks you > would like to perform with your phone, as a lot of them shall be > accessible and a lot of them won't be. > > .android requires the user to have quite a learning curve and the > patience as one might need to install, try and test with a number of > third party apps in order to get some tasks done. so if you are not > interested/motivated for the same, reconsider your decision. > > .most of the android based phones that you'll find in the market are > touchscreen based. while the android certainly has accessibility > features to enable users to use touch screen with > screenreaders/magnification applications, i can tell you out of my > personal experiences that the best speed and comfort that you can find > is to have the phone that has both touch and type available, although > i'm fortunate to be able to use 100 percent touchscreen phones as well > with quite a reasonable speed. > > .the tasks like messaging, contacts, phone, music, camera etc are over > 90 percent accessible in my experience. > .Log is slightly inaccessible in comparision to nokia phone, but still > manageable. > .GPS works fairly good, and the support of google maps is excellent. > .fm radio is slightly inaccessible, internet radios are manageable > with the help of third party apps. > .There are apps available for emailing, facebook, twitter, skype, call > recording, dictionary, daisy book reading and other such basic tasks, > which are reasonaablly accessible. > .reading word, excel and pdf document is not much accessible as yet. > .there are apps for colour identification, face recognition, OCR etc > which though are not perfectly developed as yet, but certainly looks > promising. > > .the versions of android shall keep improving, and they really have > to. however, the accessibility available in android 4.0 and 4.1 is > quite reasonable, and either of them can be chosen with no hezitations > as such. even the 4.0, for instance provides
Re: [Mobile.AI] which phone should you buy?
you are right sir this was the best axplaination i have ever read on any mailing list. Black berry can be proved the best option if its accessible. On 4/19/13, mujeeb rahman. wrote: > Dear Friend, > > This was one of the most important mails which I have ever read > regarding accesibility. Though some of the list members tried to solve > the issues, none of them gave such a nice explanation! Eventhough you > said it precisely, as others, I too request you to be specific in > suggesting a wonderful model which can be updated in the future. > > Thanks for your time and look forward for your positive response. > > Kindest Regards, > > Mujeeb Rahman > > On 4/19/13, S R Mittal wrote: >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Mobile.accessindia >> [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of >> prateek >> aggarwal >> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 6:01 PM >> To: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> Subject: [Mobile.AI] which phone should you buy? >> >> Folks: >> during my stay on this list from last few days, I've been able to >> observe that there are quite a lot of confusions in regards to which >> phone one should buy, and specially the accessibility of android based >> phones. >> Being a user of a number of phones right from symbian second edition >> to the smartphone breeds, I thought to answer the questions based on >> my personal observations and experiences if they can help someone in >> some ways. >> Like vamshi bro pointed out, choosing a suitable phone has really >> become million dollar question these days keeping in mind: >> I phone(costly), Nokia (outdated), Android(confusing) etc. >> iPhone, particularly is indeed very accessible, but its far too costly >> than most users shall appreciate to buy. Hence, I'd like to >> specifically focus on whether one should buy nokia or android, and >> what specific things one should keep in mind in order to choose an >> android phone. >> >> well, the answer to that question is indeed difficult, and actually >> quite subjective to the choice and circumstances of every >> individual. >> say, for instance, those who do not have much time/interest to >> explore and just require a solution that's tried and tested, >> some phones of nokia are still available in the stock unofficially, >> that they can buy and start using right away. >> it, however is the reality that symbian is no more available and >> no further such phones are being manufactured by the company >> anymore. therefore, android is the best option keeping the >> availability, cost and accessibility in mind. about android >> version, both 4.0 and 4.1 are accessible, none of them is 100% >> accessible though. >> well you have to accept the fact that android is comparitively new >> and while i personally appreciate google's efforts of implementing >> out of the box accessibility features, it'll obviously take time to >> jell with the expectations of the visually challenged individuals who >> as well have diverse needs/requirements depending on their >> environments and demographics. >> >> so, if you choose to buy the android phone, keep the following things in >> mind: >> >> .whatever someone might claim, no android phone is 100 percent >> accessible as of now, though the statement depends on what tasks you >> would like to perform with your phone, as a lot of them shall be >> accessible and a lot of them won't be. >> >> .android requires the user to have quite a learning curve and the >> patience as one might need to install, try and test with a number of >> third party apps in order to get some tasks done. so if you are not >> interested/motivated for the same, reconsider your decision. >> >> .most of the android based phones that you'll find in the market are >> touchscreen based. while the android certainly has accessibility >> features to enable users to use touch screen with >> screenreaders/magnification applications, i can tell you out of my >> personal experiences that the best speed and comfort that you can find >> is to have the phone that has both touch and type available, although >> i'm fortunate to be able to use 100 percent touchscreen phones as well >> with quite a reasonable speed. >> >> .the tasks like messaging, contacts, phone, music, camera etc are over >> 90 percent accessible in my experience. >> .Log is slightly inaccessible in comparision to nokia phone, but still >> manageable. >> .GPS works fairly good, and the support of google maps is excellent. >> .fm radio is slightly inaccessible, internet radios are manageable >> with the help of third party apps. >> .There are apps available for emailing, facebook, twitter, skype, call >> recording, dictionary, daisy book reading and other such basic tasks, >> which are reasonaablly accessible. >> .reading word, excel and pdf document is not much accessible as yet. >> .there are apps for colour identification, face recognition, OCR etc >> which though are not perfectly developed as yet
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I think the choice is quite simple. if you just want a phone with accessibility of calls, sms and contacts, you may either go for nokia which is unfortunately a dying breed, or better still you may go for blackberry which is very much alive and in the race. but if you are willing to experiment and be patient and can give some extra time for your mobile device, android is the right choice. if you can have a touch and type phone with good specs, you will have the best of both worlds. no doubt that android and apple have the maximum number of apps which are accessible. But unfortunately qwerrty phones are not very readily available in india and the one that is available is samsung chat 5330 which doesn't have great specs but may just be enough to buy at a affordable price. On 19/04/2013, mujeeb rahman. wrote: > Dear Friend, > > This was one of the most important mails which I have ever read > regarding accesibility. Though some of the list members tried to solve > the issues, none of them gave such a nice explanation! Eventhough you > said it precisely, as others, I too request you to be specific in > suggesting a wonderful model which can be updated in the future. > > Thanks for your time and look forward for your positive response. > > Kindest Regards, > > Mujeeb Rahman > > On 4/19/13, S R Mittal wrote: >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Mobile.accessindia >> [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of >> prateek >> aggarwal >> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 6:01 PM >> To: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> Subject: [Mobile.AI] which phone should you buy? >> >> Folks: >> during my stay on this list from last few days, I've been able to >> observe that there are quite a lot of confusions in regards to which >> phone one should buy, and specially the accessibility of android based >> phones. >> Being a user of a number of phones right from symbian second edition >> to the smartphone breeds, I thought to answer the questions based on >> my personal observations and experiences if they can help someone in >> some ways. >> Like vamshi bro pointed out, choosing a suitable phone has really >> become million dollar question these days keeping in mind: >> I phone(costly), Nokia (outdated), Android(confusing) etc. >> iPhone, particularly is indeed very accessible, but its far too costly >> than most users shall appreciate to buy. Hence, I'd like to >> specifically focus on whether one should buy nokia or android, and >> what specific things one should keep in mind in order to choose an >> android phone. >> >> well, the answer to that question is indeed difficult, and actually >> quite subjective to the choice and circumstances of every >> individual. >> say, for instance, those who do not have much time/interest to >> explore and just require a solution that's tried and tested, >> some phones of nokia are still available in the stock unofficially, >> that they can buy and start using right away. >> it, however is the reality that symbian is no more available and >> no further such phones are being manufactured by the company >> anymore. therefore, android is the best option keeping the >> availability, cost and accessibility in mind. about android >> version, both 4.0 and 4.1 are accessible, none of them is 100% >> accessible though. >> well you have to accept the fact that android is comparitively new >> and while i personally appreciate google's efforts of implementing >> out of the box accessibility features, it'll obviously take time to >> jell with the expectations of the visually challenged individuals who >> as well have diverse needs/requirements depending on their >> environments and demographics. >> >> so, if you choose to buy the android phone, keep the following things in >> mind: >> >> .whatever someone might claim, no android phone is 100 percent >> accessible as of now, though the statement depends on what tasks you >> would like to perform with your phone, as a lot of them shall be >> accessible and a lot of them won't be. >> >> .android requires the user to have quite a learning curve and the >> patience as one might need to install, try and test with a number of >> third party apps in order to get some tasks done. so if you are not >> interested/motivated for the same, reconsider your decision. >> >> .most of the android based phones that you'll find in the market are >> touchscreen based. while the android certainly has accessibility >> features to enable users to use touch screen with >> screenreaders/magnification applications, i can tell you out of my >> personal experiences that the best speed and comfort that you can find >> is to have the phone that has both touch and type available, although >> i'm fortunate to be able to use 100 percent touchscreen phones as well >> with quite a reasonable speed. >> >> .the tasks like messaging, contacts, phone, music, camera etc are over >> 90 percent accessible in my experience. >> .Log is sl
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what does mean by extra time sir? Is it for initial period or we have to spare extra time always? You are right we dont have many touch and type devices in android. I just wanted to know is it possible to work with only touch phone after lots of practice? If yes then do we have any accessible and tested budget phone? have found few android phones which cost not more then 1. But the problem is i am not enough briliant to test accessibility. So i along with few friends have requested list members to try and test some devices on behalf of us. On 4/19/13, Aaruni Sharma wrote: > I think the choice is quite simple. if you just want a phone with > accessibility of calls, sms and contacts, you may either go for nokia > which is unfortunately a dying breed, or better still you may go for > blackberry which is very much alive and in the race. but if you are > willing to experiment and be patient and can give some extra time for > your mobile device, android is the right choice. if you can have a > touch and type phone with good specs, you will have the best of both > worlds. no doubt that android and apple have the maximum number of > apps which are accessible. But unfortunately qwerrty phones are not > very readily available in india and the one that is available is > samsung chat 5330 which doesn't have great specs but may just be > enough to buy at a affordable price. > > On 19/04/2013, mujeeb rahman. wrote: >> Dear Friend, >> >> This was one of the most important mails which I have ever read >> regarding accesibility. Though some of the list members tried to solve >> the issues, none of them gave such a nice explanation! Eventhough you >> said it precisely, as others, I too request you to be specific in >> suggesting a wonderful model which can be updated in the future. >> >> Thanks for your time and look forward for your positive response. >> >> Kindest Regards, >> >> Mujeeb Rahman >> >> On 4/19/13, S R Mittal wrote: >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Mobile.accessindia >>> [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of >>> prateek >>> aggarwal >>> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 6:01 PM >>> To: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> Subject: [Mobile.AI] which phone should you buy? >>> >>> Folks: >>> during my stay on this list from last few days, I've been able to >>> observe that there are quite a lot of confusions in regards to which >>> phone one should buy, and specially the accessibility of android based >>> phones. >>> Being a user of a number of phones right from symbian second edition >>> to the smartphone breeds, I thought to answer the questions based on >>> my personal observations and experiences if they can help someone in >>> some ways. >>> Like vamshi bro pointed out, choosing a suitable phone has really >>> become million dollar question these days keeping in mind: >>> I phone(costly), Nokia (outdated), Android(confusing) etc. >>> iPhone, particularly is indeed very accessible, but its far too costly >>> than most users shall appreciate to buy. Hence, I'd like to >>> specifically focus on whether one should buy nokia or android, and >>> what specific things one should keep in mind in order to choose an >>> android phone. >>> >>> well, the answer to that question is indeed difficult, and actually >>> quite subjective to the choice and circumstances of every >>> individual. >>> say, for instance, those who do not have much time/interest to >>> explore and just require a solution that's tried and tested, >>> some phones of nokia are still available in the stock unofficially, >>> that they can buy and start using right away. >>> it, however is the reality that symbian is no more available and >>> no further such phones are being manufactured by the company >>> anymore. therefore, android is the best option keeping the >>> availability, cost and accessibility in mind. about android >>> version, both 4.0 and 4.1 are accessible, none of them is 100% >>> accessible though. >>> well you have to accept the fact that android is comparitively new >>> and while i personally appreciate google's efforts of implementing >>> out of the box accessibility features, it'll obviously take time to >>> jell with the expectations of the visually challenged individuals who >>> as well have diverse needs/requirements depending on their >>> environments and demographics. >>> >>> so, if you choose to buy the android phone, keep the following things >>> in >>> mind: >>> >>> .whatever someone might claim, no android phone is 100 percent >>> accessible as of now, though the statement depends on what tasks you >>> would like to perform with your phone, as a lot of them shall be >>> accessible and a lot of them won't be. >>> >>> .android requires the user to have quite a learning curve and the >>> patience as one might need to install, try and test with a number of >>> third party apps in order to get some tasks done. so if you are not >>> interested/motivated for th
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Hi, unfortunately jury can't be out on any definitive answer. But from my personal experience, I can say that I have found the qwerty phone to be the best in terms of speed and access. There are few people who used the traditional numeric keyboard and could never be comfortable with a qwerty. But for me the switch was a breeze and I could enter text much faster. touch screen can never match the speeds we can achieve with the physical qwerty keyboard if there is not any revolutionary change from the current accessibility and text entry. I would put my bet on an android with a physical keyboard. As far as your first question is concerned, obviously in the beginning you have to spend a lot of time on the device. Secondly, the phones manufactured by the Indian companies are not a match to samsung phones in terms of touch screen sensetivity. I was very happy with my Karbon in the beginning but with the passage of time, I have noticed a lag in touch sensetivity and also other problems like non-responsiveness of the keypad lock are cropping up. On ther other hand my old samsung is still working like a charm after 2 and half years of rigorous use. the touch wiz UI of samsung does hamper accessibility partly but it is still worth considering. another observation I would like to make about certain models of samsung like the Grand Duos. I tried two handsets but accessibiity could not start despite repeated attempts. So you need to check at the counter itself whether a phone would be worth buying. This goes with any phone. Because of the open nature of android, Handsets from different manufacturers do not behave similarly. On 19/04/2013, ishita kapoor wrote: > what does mean by extra time sir? > Is it for initial period or we have to spare extra time always? > You are right we dont have many touch and type devices in android. > I just wanted to know is it possible to work with only touch phone > after lots of practice? > If yes then do we have any accessible and tested budget phone? > have found few android phones which cost not more then 1. But > the problem is i am not enough briliant to test accessibility. So i > along with few friends have requested list members to try and test > some devices on behalf of us. > > On 4/19/13, Aaruni Sharma wrote: >> I think the choice is quite simple. if you just want a phone with >> accessibility of calls, sms and contacts, you may either go for nokia >> which is unfortunately a dying breed, or better still you may go for >> blackberry which is very much alive and in the race. but if you are >> willing to experiment and be patient and can give some extra time for >> your mobile device, android is the right choice. if you can have a >> touch and type phone with good specs, you will have the best of both >> worlds. no doubt that android and apple have the maximum number of >> apps which are accessible. But unfortunately qwerrty phones are not >> very readily available in india and the one that is available is >> samsung chat 5330 which doesn't have great specs but may just be >> enough to buy at a affordable price. >> >> On 19/04/2013, mujeeb rahman. wrote: >>> Dear Friend, >>> >>> This was one of the most important mails which I have ever read >>> regarding accesibility. Though some of the list members tried to solve >>> the issues, none of them gave such a nice explanation! Eventhough you >>> said it precisely, as others, I too request you to be specific in >>> suggesting a wonderful model which can be updated in the future. >>> >>> Thanks for your time and look forward for your positive response. >>> >>> Kindest Regards, >>> >>> Mujeeb Rahman >>> >>> On 4/19/13, S R Mittal wrote: -Original Message- From: Mobile.accessindia [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of prateek aggarwal Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 6:01 PM To: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [Mobile.AI] which phone should you buy? Folks: during my stay on this list from last few days, I've been able to observe that there are quite a lot of confusions in regards to which phone one should buy, and specially the accessibility of android based phones. Being a user of a number of phones right from symbian second edition to the smartphone breeds, I thought to answer the questions based on my personal observations and experiences if they can help someone in some ways. Like vamshi bro pointed out, choosing a suitable phone has really become million dollar question these days keeping in mind: I phone(costly), Nokia (outdated), Android(confusing) etc. iPhone, particularly is indeed very accessible, but its far too costly than most users shall appreciate to buy. Hence, I'd like to specifically focus on whether one should buy nokia or android, and what specific things one should keep in mind in order to choose an android phone. >>
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Dear Ishita, My suggestion is, you try to spend around 15K so that, u will get good quad core android mobiles under 15k. Ok, here i am suggesting quad core mobiles, because, if you use these mobiles, there are chances that, u will be getting android 5 updates. quad core processors are better than duul core processors. If you are good geek, if you don't get updates for ur mobile, you can rute your mobile in future so that, you can use latest version of android. Personally I am using quad core mobile. I also don't suggest any quarty mobiles. Because, Practicaally we can type on touchscreen as like quarty. those are my personal views. Again, its up to you Still i am suggesting the best quad core mobiles under 15k. When it comes to CPU cores, most people tend to believe in more the merrier ideology. Whether it's useful or not, people want quad-core chips in their mobile phones. This is one of the major reasons behind the success of most Android flagship phones. If you too fancy a powerful phone, but cannot shell out over Rs 30,000 for the likes of the GALAXY Note II or S III, don't lose heart just yet. Domestic brands in collaboration with the Chinese manufacturers offer plenty of budget alternatives. Although these devices aren't a true match for Samsung's cutting-edge AMOLED screens, camera, and numerous software tweaks, they offer great value nonetheless. Now without further ado, what follows is a list of pocked-friendly quad-core smartphones you can buy without crossing the Rs 15,000 mark. Karbonn Titanium S1 Priced at Rs 10,300, the Titanium S1 is one of the cheapest quad-core phones officially available in India. Despite being affordable though, the phone offers 4.5" IPS capacitive touchscreen display with pixel dimensions of 960x540. It's powered by a 1.2 Ghz Qualcomm Snapdragon quad-core processor, and has 1 GB of RAM. I guess that should be enough to handle Android 4.1 Jelly Bean. Other features include an 5 megapixel auto focus camera, 4 GB internal storage, microSD card slot, Bluetooth, 3G, Wi-Fi, and 1600 mAh battery. Karbonn Titanium S5 The elder sibling of Titanium S1 comes with a 5" IPS screen with 960x540. The phone offers 1.2 GHz quad-core processor along with 1GB of RAM. Apart from that, there's an 8 megapixel auto-focus camera, dual-SIM functionality, 4 GB internal storage, microSD card slot, Bluetooth, 3G, Wi-Fi, dual-SIM functionality, and 2000 mAh battery. The smartphone runs on Android 4.1 (Jelly Bean). Available for Rs 12,000, it gives the Micromax A116 Canvas HD a run for its money. XOLO Q800 Unveiled a couple of weeks ago, the Q800 sports a 4.5" IPS screen with 960x540 pixel dimension. It draws power from a 1.2 GHz quad-core processor, coupled with PowerVR SGX544 GPU. According to XOLO, the 8 megapixel rear camera backed by a BSI sensor offers great low-light photography. Other specs include 1 GB of RAM, 4 GB internal memory, micro-SD card slot, Bluetooth 4.0, 3G, Wi-Fi, 2100 mAh battery, and micro-USB for connectivity. The phone is only available in black, and is priced at Rs 12,500. Micromax A116 Canvas HD The successor of the highly popular A110 was the one that triggered the budget Quad Core battle. The dual-SIM handset features a 5" screen with pixel dimensions of 1280x720. It is this HD display that sets it apart from other contenders in this list. It's powered by a 1.2 GHz Quad core MediaTek MT6589 chipset, and has 1 GB of RAM. Apart from that, you get an 8 megapixel camera, 4 GB internal storage, microSD card slot, and 2000 mAh battery. The A116 features Android Jelly Bean and is priced at Rs 14,000. There have been rumours that the price of the Canvas HD has jumped up to Rs 16,000 given the supposed high demand and low supply. Now, with competition heating up, we believe the price will quietly slip back to something under 15K. WickedLeak Wammy Titan 2 After making its presence felt in the tablets market, WickedLeak has also started making its mark in the smartphone segment. If you're blessed with huge hands or simply love big screens, you'll appreciate the Titan 2's 5.3" IPS display with 960x540 pixels. It features a 1.2 GHz quad-core MediaTek MT6589 processor, which is exactly what you get in the A116 Canvas HD. In photography department, it claims to sport a 12 megapixel main and 5 megapixel front-facing camera. The Titan 2 comes with Android 4.1 (Jelly Bean) with a mention of a probable upgrade to version 4.2 in the future. It is priced at Rs 14,000. Hope it will help you. Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in
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Hey Prateek, What a fantastic explanation! Thank You. With Regards. Dinesh Thole. On 4/19/13, prateek aggarwal wrote: > Folks: > during my stay on this list from last few days, I’ve been able to > observe that there are quite a lot of confusions in regards to which > phone one should buy, and specially the accessibility of android based > phones. > Being a user of a number of phones right from symbian second edition > to the smartphone breeds, I thought to answer the questions based on > my personal observations and experiences if they can help someone in > some ways. > Like vamshi bro pointed out, choosing a suitable phone has really > become million dollar question these days keeping in mind: > I phone(costly), Nokia (outdated), Android(confusing) etc. > iPhone, particularly is indeed very accessible, but its far too costly > than most users shall appreciate to buy. Hence, I’d like to > specifically focus on whether one should buy nokia or android, and > what specific things one should keep in mind in order to choose an > android phone. > > well, the answer to that question is indeed difficult, and actually > quite subjective to the choice and circumstances of every > individual. > say, for instance, those who do not have much time/interest to > explore and just require a solution that's tried and tested, > some phones of nokia are still available in the stock unofficially, > that they can buy and start using right away. > it, however is the reality that symbian is no more available and > no further such phones are being manufactured by the company > anymore. therefore, android is the best option keeping the > availability, cost and accessibility in mind. about android > version, both 4.0 and 4.1 are accessible, none of them is 100% > accessible though. > well you have to accept the fact that android is comparitively new > and while i personally appreciate google's efforts of implementing > out of the box accessibility features, it'll obviously take time to > jell with the expectations of the visually challenged individuals who > as well have diverse needs/requirements depending on their > environments and demographics. > > so, if you choose to buy the android phone, keep the following things in > mind: > > •whatever someone might claim, no android phone is 100 percent > accessible as of now, though the statement depends on what tasks you > would like to perform with your phone, as a lot of them shall be > accessible and a lot of them won't be. > > •android requires the user to have quite a learning curve and the > patience as one might need to install, try and test with a number of > third party apps in order to get some tasks done. so if you are not > interested/motivated for the same, reconsider your decision. > > •most of the android based phones that you'll find in the market are > touchscreen based. while the android certainly has accessibility > features to enable users to use touch screen with > screenreaders/magnification applications, i can tell you out of my > personal experiences that the best speed and comfort that you can find > is to have the phone that has both touch and type available, although > i'm fortunate to be able to use 100 percent touchscreen phones as well > with quite a reasonable speed. > > •the tasks like messaging, contacts, phone, music, camera etc are over > 90 percent accessible in my experience. > •Log is slightly inaccessible in comparision to nokia phone, but still > manageable. > •GPS works fairly good, and the support of google maps is excellent. > •fm radio is slightly inaccessible, internet radios are manageable > with the help of third party apps. > •There are apps available for emailing, facebook, twitter, skype, call > recording, dictionary, daisy book reading and other such basic tasks, > which are reasonaablly accessible. > •reading word, excel and pdf document is not much accessible as yet. > •there are apps for colour identification, face recognition, OCR etc > which though are not perfectly developed as yet, but certainly looks > promising. > > •the versions of android shall keep improving, and they really have > to. however, the accessibility available in android 4.0 and 4.1 is > quite reasonable, and either of them can be chosen with no hezitations > as such. even the 4.0, for instance provides you quite a number of > options to use the phone accessiblly, and 4.1. only adds the icing on > the cake. personally, i did not find much of a difference in 4.1 and > 4.2 though. > > •considering the fact that android does have the in-built > accessibility options available, most of the phones that you buy from > the market should be usable without much of a configguration. though, > i personally found out that some phones of HTC and LG were using a > broken accessibility architecture, and did have issues that are not > found in many of the companion phones. > > •rs. 10 to 12 thousand is quite a reasonable amount to obtain a good > an
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Does the latest Android run on Samsung Chat? As I understand, it has a physical qwerty keypad, and hence if it could run the latest version of Android, we could have the best Android accessibility features, and the keypad would take away a lot of our troubles with entering rather than only consuming content. Regards, On 4/19/13, DINESH THOLE wrote: > Hey Prateek, > > What a fantastic explanation! > Thank You. > > With Regards. > > > Dinesh Thole. > > On 4/19/13, prateek aggarwal wrote: >> Folks: >> during my stay on this list from last few days, I’ve been able to >> observe that there are quite a lot of confusions in regards to which >> phone one should buy, and specially the accessibility of android based >> phones. >> Being a user of a number of phones right from symbian second edition >> to the smartphone breeds, I thought to answer the questions based on >> my personal observations and experiences if they can help someone in >> some ways. >> Like vamshi bro pointed out, choosing a suitable phone has really >> become million dollar question these days keeping in mind: >> I phone(costly), Nokia (outdated), Android(confusing) etc. >> iPhone, particularly is indeed very accessible, but its far too costly >> than most users shall appreciate to buy. Hence, I’d like to >> specifically focus on whether one should buy nokia or android, and >> what specific things one should keep in mind in order to choose an >> android phone. >> >> well, the answer to that question is indeed difficult, and actually >> quite subjective to the choice and circumstances of every >> individual. >> say, for instance, those who do not have much time/interest to >> explore and just require a solution that's tried and tested, >> some phones of nokia are still available in the stock unofficially, >> that they can buy and start using right away. >> it, however is the reality that symbian is no more available and >> no further such phones are being manufactured by the company >> anymore. therefore, android is the best option keeping the >> availability, cost and accessibility in mind. about android >> version, both 4.0 and 4.1 are accessible, none of them is 100% >> accessible though. >> well you have to accept the fact that android is comparitively new >> and while i personally appreciate google's efforts of implementing >> out of the box accessibility features, it'll obviously take time to >> jell with the expectations of the visually challenged individuals who >> as well have diverse needs/requirements depending on their >> environments and demographics. >> >> so, if you choose to buy the android phone, keep the following things in >> mind: >> >> •whatever someone might claim, no android phone is 100 percent >> accessible as of now, though the statement depends on what tasks you >> would like to perform with your phone, as a lot of them shall be >> accessible and a lot of them won't be. >> >> •android requires the user to have quite a learning curve and the >> patience as one might need to install, try and test with a number of >> third party apps in order to get some tasks done. so if you are not >> interested/motivated for the same, reconsider your decision. >> >> •most of the android based phones that you'll find in the market are >> touchscreen based. while the android certainly has accessibility >> features to enable users to use touch screen with >> screenreaders/magnification applications, i can tell you out of my >> personal experiences that the best speed and comfort that you can find >> is to have the phone that has both touch and type available, although >> i'm fortunate to be able to use 100 percent touchscreen phones as well >> with quite a reasonable speed. >> >> •the tasks like messaging, contacts, phone, music, camera etc are over >> 90 percent accessible in my experience. >> •Log is slightly inaccessible in comparision to nokia phone, but still >> manageable. >> •GPS works fairly good, and the support of google maps is excellent. >> •fm radio is slightly inaccessible, internet radios are manageable >> with the help of third party apps. >> •There are apps available for emailing, facebook, twitter, skype, call >> recording, dictionary, daisy book reading and other such basic tasks, >> which are reasonaablly accessible. >> •reading word, excel and pdf document is not much accessible as yet. >> •there are apps for colour identification, face recognition, OCR etc >> which though are not perfectly developed as yet, but certainly looks >> promising. >> >> •the versions of android shall keep improving, and they really have >> to. however, the accessibility available in android 4.0 and 4.1 is >> quite reasonable, and either of them can be chosen with no hezitations >> as such. even the 4.0, for instance provides you quite a number of >> options to use the phone accessiblly, and 4.1. only adds the icing on >> the cake. personally, i did not find much of a difference in 4.1 and >> 4.2 though. >> >> •consid
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hello, so far we have been discussing the various models from the angle of several aspects like considering cpu, ram, touch screen size, camera resolution, processor speed etc. but one thing on which i would like to have some review on to choose these models is sensors. while having look at the infinite models available in the market for android platform and considering its neumerous features, i get confused several time in understanding the exact functions of sensors associated with it. while looking at the features of these models, i come across the terminologies of sensors such as acceleration, geomagnetic field strengt, field strength, angular change, virtual sensors or synthetic sensors, The linear acceleration sensor and gravity sensors. Few Android-powered devices have every type of sensor. For example, most handset devices and tablets have an accelerometer and a magnetometer, but fewer devices have barometers or thermometers. as i understand that sensors implies Any device that receives a signal or stimulus (as heat or pressure or light or motion etc.) and responds to it in a distinctive manner. so i consider it pressure as our prime function in using tap method over the touch screen. so in the given situation, i would like to know that does selection of sensors signifies the extent of accessibility for visually impaired? if so, what would be the best option to choose the sensor type? if this does not affect the accessibility to use talk back or any accessible app then what is its functionality? experts please throw some light on this. if my question is foolish, then please ignore it as just raised to satisfy my curiocity. thanks, On 4/19/13, Mahesh S. Panicker wrote: > Does the latest Android run on Samsung Chat? As I understand, it has a > physical qwerty keypad, and hence if it could run the latest version > of Android, we could have the best Android accessibility features, and > the keypad would take away a lot of our troubles with entering rather > than only consuming content. > Regards, > > On 4/19/13, DINESH THOLE wrote: >> Hey Prateek, >> >> What a fantastic explanation! >> Thank You. >> >> With Regards. >> >> >> Dinesh Thole. >> >> On 4/19/13, prateek aggarwal wrote: >>> Folks: >>> during my stay on this list from last few days, I’ve been able to >>> observe that there are quite a lot of confusions in regards to which >>> phone one should buy, and specially the accessibility of android based >>> phones. >>> Being a user of a number of phones right from symbian second edition >>> to the smartphone breeds, I thought to answer the questions based on >>> my personal observations and experiences if they can help someone in >>> some ways. >>> Like vamshi bro pointed out, choosing a suitable phone has really >>> become million dollar question these days keeping in mind: >>> I phone(costly), Nokia (outdated), Android(confusing) etc. >>> iPhone, particularly is indeed very accessible, but its far too costly >>> than most users shall appreciate to buy. Hence, I’d like to >>> specifically focus on whether one should buy nokia or android, and >>> what specific things one should keep in mind in order to choose an >>> android phone. >>> >>> well, the answer to that question is indeed difficult, and actually >>> quite subjective to the choice and circumstances of every >>> individual. >>> say, for instance, those who do not have much time/interest to >>> explore and just require a solution that's tried and tested, >>> some phones of nokia are still available in the stock unofficially, >>> that they can buy and start using right away. >>> it, however is the reality that symbian is no more available and >>> no further such phones are being manufactured by the company >>> anymore. therefore, android is the best option keeping the >>> availability, cost and accessibility in mind. about android >>> version, both 4.0 and 4.1 are accessible, none of them is 100% >>> accessible though. >>> well you have to accept the fact that android is comparitively new >>> and while i personally appreciate google's efforts of implementing >>> out of the box accessibility features, it'll obviously take time to >>> jell with the expectations of the visually challenged individuals who >>> as well have diverse needs/requirements depending on their >>> environments and demographics. >>> >>> so, if you choose to buy the android phone, keep the following things >>> in >>> mind: >>> >>> •whatever someone might claim, no android phone is 100 percent >>> accessible as of now, though the statement depends on what tasks you >>> would like to perform with your phone, as a lot of them shall be >>> accessible and a lot of them won't be. >>> >>> •android requires the user to have quite a learning curve and the >>> patience as one might need to install, try and test with a number of >>> third party apps in order to get some tasks done. so if you are not >>> interested/motivated for the same, reconsider your decisi
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Hi, Accelerometer allows the phone to detect movement. Using this type of sensors apps create features like shake to read the time, flip the phone to turn off ringing, shake to start reading text etc. Proximity sensor is used to detect the closeness of the face from the phone and is used to turn off touch on the screen when phone is held close to the face. barometers or thermometers if present will give you better information about temperature in your environment. This information can also be obtained without these sensors from the nearest weather station using the network. So, in general sensors build additional functionality in the phone and are desirable. They are not essential for accessibility but the additional functionality can enhance usability. Prashant -Original Message- From: Mobile.accessindia [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of mukesh jain Sent: 19 April 2013 23:25 To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones and Tabs. Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] which phone should you buy? hello, so far we have been discussing the various models from the angle of several aspects like considering cpu, ram, touch screen size, camera resolution, processor speed etc. but one thing on which i would like to have some review on to choose these models is sensors. while having look at the infinite models available in the market for android platform and considering its neumerous features, i get confused several time in understanding the exact functions of sensors associated with it. while looking at the features of these models, i come across the terminologies of sensors such as acceleration, geomagnetic field strengt, field strength, angular change, virtual sensors or synthetic sensors, The linear acceleration sensor and gravity sensors. Few Android-powered devices have every type of sensor. For example, most handset devices and tablets have an accelerometer and a magnetometer, but fewer devices have barometers or thermometers. as i understand that sensors implies Any device that receives a signal or stimulus (as heat or pressure or light or motion etc.) and responds to it in a distinctive manner. so i consider it pressure as our prime function in using tap method over the touch screen. so in the given situation, i would like to know that does selection of sensors signifies the extent of accessibility for visually impaired? if so, what would be the best option to choose the sensor type? if this does not affect the accessibility to use talk back or any accessible app then what is its functionality? experts please throw some light on this. if my question is foolish, then please ignore it as just raised to satisfy my curiocity. thanks, On 4/19/13, Mahesh S. Panicker wrote: > Does the latest Android run on Samsung Chat? As I understand, it has a > physical qwerty keypad, and hence if it could run the latest version > of Android, we could have the best Android accessibility features, and > the keypad would take away a lot of our troubles with entering rather > than only consuming content. > Regards, > > On 4/19/13, DINESH THOLE wrote: >> Hey Prateek, >> >> What a fantastic explanation! >> Thank You. >> >> With Regards. >> >> >> Dinesh Thole. >> >> On 4/19/13, prateek aggarwal wrote: >>> Folks: >>> during my stay on this list from last few days, I've been able to >>> observe that there are quite a lot of confusions in regards to which >>> phone one should buy, and specially the accessibility of android >>> based phones. >>> Being a user of a number of phones right from symbian second edition >>> to the smartphone breeds, I thought to answer the questions based on >>> my personal observations and experiences if they can help someone in >>> some ways. >>> Like vamshi bro pointed out, choosing a suitable phone has really >>> become million dollar question these days keeping in mind: >>> I phone(costly), Nokia (outdated), Android(confusing) etc. >>> iPhone, particularly is indeed very accessible, but its far too >>> costly than most users shall appreciate to buy. Hence, I'd like to >>> specifically focus on whether one should buy nokia or android, and >>> what specific things one should keep in mind in order to choose an >>> android phone. >>> >>> well, the answer to that question is indeed difficult, and actually >>> quite subjective to the choice and circumstances of every >>> individual. >>> say, for instance, those who do not have much time/interest to >>> explore and just require a solution that's tried and tested, some >>> phones of nokia are still available in the stock unofficially, t
Re: [Mobile.AI] which phone should you buy?
Dear Prashant, Prateek, Mukesh and others, a lot has been said about the Android phones in a very lusid manner, but a simple question, which I asked yesterday also has not been answered and that, is which companies provide phones with both qwerty key pad and a touch skreen. Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar Telephone: 0251-2438457 Mobile: +91 9920410788 Skype ID- sayanekar Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in
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sir, there is only one touch and type model available in market. that is samsung galaxy chat. which costs around 7500. On 4/20/13, Shyam M. Sayanekar wrote: > Dear Prashant, Prateek, Mukesh and others, a lot has been said about the > Android phones in a very lusid manner, but a simple question, which I asked > > yesterday also has not been answered and that, is which companies provide > phones with both qwerty key pad and a touch skreen. > Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar > Telephone: 0251-2438457 > Mobile: +91 9920410788 > Skype ID- sayanekar > > > Search for previous postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in > > > > ___ > Mobile.accessindia mailing list > Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in
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I had asked this before but seems like it got lost in the midst of the discussions. Does Samsung Galaxy Chat run on latest Android? Will it be possible to run Android 5 on it when it gets launched? Regards, On 4/20/13, ishita kapoor wrote: > sir, there is only one touch and type model available in market. that > is samsung galaxy chat. which costs around 7500. > > On 4/20/13, Shyam M. Sayanekar wrote: >> Dear Prashant, Prateek, Mukesh and others, a lot has been said about the >> Android phones in a very lusid manner, but a simple question, which I >> asked >> >> yesterday also has not been answered and that, is which companies provide >> phones with both qwerty key pad and a touch skreen. >> Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar >> Telephone: 0251-2438457 >> Mobile: +91 9920410788 >> Skype ID- sayanekar >> >> >> Search for previous postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> >> >> >> ___ >> Mobile.accessindia mailing list >> Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> > > Search for previous postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in > > > > ___ > Mobile.accessindia mailing list > Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in > -- Mahesh S. Panicker Assistant Professor, Department of Political Science, Lady Shri Ram College, Lajpat Nagar New Delhi 110024 Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in
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experts! sorry for my intereption I plan to buy a android mobile around 1 to 12000 I don't espect keyboard Iam confusing the terms gellibeen, android 4.0, android 4.1 and more friends please tell me wich 1 is good and accessible? what is gellibeen? On 4/20/13, Mahesh S. Panicker wrote: > I had asked this before but seems like it got lost in the midst of the > discussions. Does Samsung Galaxy Chat run on latest Android? Will it > be possible to run Android 5 on it when it gets launched? > Regards, > > On 4/20/13, ishita kapoor wrote: >> sir, there is only one touch and type model available in market. that >> is samsung galaxy chat. which costs around 7500. >> >> On 4/20/13, Shyam M. Sayanekar wrote: >>> Dear Prashant, Prateek, Mukesh and others, a lot has been said about the >>> Android phones in a very lusid manner, but a simple question, which I >>> asked >>> >>> yesterday also has not been answered and that, is which companies >>> provide >>> phones with both qwerty key pad and a touch skreen. >>> Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar >>> Telephone: 0251-2438457 >>> Mobile: +91 9920410788 >>> Skype ID- sayanekar >>> >>> >>> Search for previous postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Mobile.accessindia mailing list >>> Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> >> >> Search for previous postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> >> >> >> ___ >> Mobile.accessindia mailing list >> Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> > > > -- > Mahesh S. Panicker > Assistant Professor, Department of Political Science, > Lady Shri Ram College, Lajpat Nagar > New Delhi 110024 > > Search for previous postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in > > > > ___ > Mobile.accessindia mailing list > Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in > -- your friend yogesh you can't study well with out techknology, today! you can't stand steadily with out techknology, tomorrow so keep learning skype me romio.yogesh, yogesh92 FB yogeshyogi twitter romioyogesh Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in
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Android 5.0 won't work with Samsung Chat. Because it requires Quad core processor. --- Email: sinoj...@gmail.com Blog: http://talkingnet.blogspot.com Facebook: http://facebook.com/sinoj.vr Twitter: @sinojvr -- From: "Mahesh S. Panicker" Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 1:22 PM To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phonesand Tabs." Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] which phone should you buy? I had asked this before but seems like it got lost in the midst of the discussions. Does Samsung Galaxy Chat run on latest Android? Will it be possible to run Android 5 on it when it gets launched? Regards, On 4/20/13, ishita kapoor wrote: > sir, there is only one touch and type model available in market. that > is samsung galaxy chat. which costs around 7500. > > On 4/20/13, Shyam M. Sayanekar wrote: >> Dear Prashant, Prateek, Mukesh and others, a lot has been said about the >> Android phones in a very lusid manner, but a simple question, which I >> asked >> >> yesterday also has not been answered and that, is which companies provide >> phones with both qwerty key pad and a touch skreen. >> Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar >> Telephone: 0251-2438457 >> Mobile: +91 9920410788 >> Skype ID- sayanekar >> >> >> Search for previous postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> >> >> >> ___ >> Mobile.accessindia mailing list >> Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> > > Search for previous postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in > > > > ___ > Mobile.accessindia mailing list > Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in > -- Mahesh S. Panicker Assistant Professor, Department of Political Science, Lady Shri Ram College, Lajpat Nagar New Delhi 110024 Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in
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Jelly Bean is the code name of Android 4.1 version, like XP, Vista, 7 and 8 are the code names of Windows. Android 4.0 is called Ice Cream Sandwich and up coming Android 5.0 is Key Lime Py. Android is getting more accessible when the release of each editions. Android 4.1 is more accessible than 4.0 and 5.0 may be more accessible than 4.1. --- Email: sinoj...@gmail.com Blog: http://talkingnet.blogspot.com Facebook: http://facebook.com/sinoj.vr Twitter: @sinojvr -- From: "yogesh J" Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 4:45 PM To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phonesand Tabs." Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] which phone should you buy? experts! sorry for my intereption I plan to buy a android mobile around 1 to 12000 I don't espect keyboard Iam confusing the terms gellibeen, android 4.0, android 4.1 and more friends please tell me wich 1 is good and accessible? what is gellibeen? On 4/20/13, Mahesh S. Panicker wrote: > I had asked this before but seems like it got lost in the midst of the > discussions. Does Samsung Galaxy Chat run on latest Android? Will it > be possible to run Android 5 on it when it gets launched? > Regards, > > On 4/20/13, ishita kapoor wrote: >> sir, there is only one touch and type model available in market. that >> is samsung galaxy chat. which costs around 7500. >> >> On 4/20/13, Shyam M. Sayanekar wrote: >>> Dear Prashant, Prateek, Mukesh and others, a lot has been said about the >>> Android phones in a very lusid manner, but a simple question, which I >>> asked >>> >>> yesterday also has not been answered and that, is which companies >>> provide >>> phones with both qwerty key pad and a touch skreen. >>> Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar >>> Telephone: 0251-2438457 >>> Mobile: +91 9920410788 >>> Skype ID- sayanekar >>> >>> >>> Search for previous postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Mobile.accessindia mailing list >>> Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> >> >> Search for previous postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> >> >> >> ___ >> Mobile.accessindia mailing list >> Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> > > > -- > Mahesh S. Panicker > Assistant Professor, Department of Political Science, > Lady Shri Ram College, Lajpat Nagar > New Delhi 110024 > > Search for previous postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in > > > > ___ > Mobile.accessindia mailing list > Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in > -- your friend yogesh you can't study well with out techknology, today! you can't stand steadily with out techknology, tomorrow so keep learning skype me romio.yogesh, yogesh92 FB yogeshyogi twitter romioyogesh Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in Search for previous postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in ___ Mobile.accessindia mailing list Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in
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vow! thank you jee! now my all doubts are clear! I want to buy soni experia z can I buy it? its original price is rs. 34000 but one of my relative he is in customs office he give me the new mobile with bill in rs. 16000 that's why I ask about this mobile specifically please give your valuable commend On 4/20/13, Sinoj wrote: > Jelly Bean is the code name of Android 4.1 version, like XP, Vista, 7 and 8 > > are the code names of Windows. Android 4.0 is called Ice Cream Sandwich and > > up coming Android 5.0 is Key Lime Py. Android is getting more accessible > when the release of each editions. Android 4.1 is more accessible than 4.0 > and 5.0 may be more accessible than 4.1. > --- > Email: > sinoj...@gmail.com > Blog: > http://talkingnet.blogspot.com > Facebook: > http://facebook.com/sinoj.vr > Twitter: > @sinojvr > > -- > From: "yogesh J" > Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 4:45 PM > To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile > phonesand Tabs." > Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] which phone should you buy? > > experts! sorry for my intereption > I plan to buy a android mobile around 1 to 12000 > I don't espect keyboard > Iam confusing the terms > gellibeen, android 4.0, android 4.1 and more > friends please tell me wich 1 is good and accessible? > what is gellibeen? > > > > On 4/20/13, Mahesh S. Panicker wrote: >> I had asked this before but seems like it got lost in the midst of the >> discussions. Does Samsung Galaxy Chat run on latest Android? Will it >> be possible to run Android 5 on it when it gets launched? >> Regards, >> >> On 4/20/13, ishita kapoor wrote: >>> sir, there is only one touch and type model available in market. that >>> is samsung galaxy chat. which costs around 7500. >>> >>> On 4/20/13, Shyam M. Sayanekar wrote: >>>> Dear Prashant, Prateek, Mukesh and others, a lot has been said about >>>> the >>>> Android phones in a very lusid manner, but a simple question, which I >>>> asked >>>> >>>> yesterday also has not been answered and that, is which companies >>>> provide >>>> phones with both qwerty key pad and a touch skreen. >>>> Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar >>>> Telephone: 0251-2438457 >>>> Mobile: +91 9920410788 >>>> Skype ID- sayanekar >>>> >>>> >>>> Search for previous postings at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Mobile.accessindia mailing list >>>> Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> >>> >>> Search for previous postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Mobile.accessindia mailing list >>> Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> >> >> >> -- >> Mahesh S. Panicker >> Assistant Professor, Department of Political Science, >> Lady Shri Ram College, Lajpat Nagar >> New Delhi 110024 >> >> Search for previous postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> >> >> >> ___ >> Mobile.accessindia mailing list >> Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> > > > -- > your friend yogesh > you can't study well with out > techknology, today! > you can't stand steadily with out techknology, tomorrow > so keep learning > > skype me > romio.yogesh, yogesh92 > FB > yogeshyogi > twitter > romioyogesh > > Search for previous postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in > > > > ___ > Mobile.accessindia mailing list > Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >
Re: [Mobile.AI] which phone should you buy?
If I am correct, LG, Sony and HTC are not much accessible due to customizing the Android OS for their own branding. Good brand is in terms of accessibility is Samsung. You can also consider Indian companies like Micromax and Karbonn if you like those. Other members please correct me if I am wrong. --- Email: sinoj...@gmail.com Blog: http://talkingnet.blogspot.com Facebook: http://facebook.com/sinoj.vr Twitter: @sinojvr -- From: "yogesh J" Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 7:37 PM To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phonesand Tabs." Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] which phone should you buy? vow! thank you jee! now my all doubts are clear! I want to buy soni experia z can I buy it? its original price is rs. 34000 but one of my relative he is in customs office he give me the new mobile with bill in rs. 16000 that's why I ask about this mobile specifically please give your valuable commend On 4/20/13, Sinoj wrote: > Jelly Bean is the code name of Android 4.1 version, like XP, Vista, 7 and > 8 > > are the code names of Windows. Android 4.0 is called Ice Cream Sandwich > and > > up coming Android 5.0 is Key Lime Py. Android is getting more accessible > when the release of each editions. Android 4.1 is more accessible than 4.0 > and 5.0 may be more accessible than 4.1. > --- > Email: > sinoj...@gmail.com > Blog: > http://talkingnet.blogspot.com > Facebook: > http://facebook.com/sinoj.vr > Twitter: > @sinojvr > > -- > From: "yogesh J" > Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 4:45 PM > To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile > phonesand Tabs." > Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] which phone should you buy? > > experts! sorry for my intereption > I plan to buy a android mobile around 1 to 12000 > I don't espect keyboard > Iam confusing the terms > gellibeen, android 4.0, android 4.1 and more > friends please tell me wich 1 is good and accessible? > what is gellibeen? > > > > On 4/20/13, Mahesh S. Panicker wrote: >> I had asked this before but seems like it got lost in the midst of the >> discussions. Does Samsung Galaxy Chat run on latest Android? Will it >> be possible to run Android 5 on it when it gets launched? >> Regards, >> >> On 4/20/13, ishita kapoor wrote: >>> sir, there is only one touch and type model available in market. that >>> is samsung galaxy chat. which costs around 7500. >>> >>> On 4/20/13, Shyam M. Sayanekar wrote: >>>> Dear Prashant, Prateek, Mukesh and others, a lot has been said about >>>> the >>>> Android phones in a very lusid manner, but a simple question, which I >>>> asked >>>> >>>> yesterday also has not been answered and that, is which companies >>>> provide >>>> phones with both qwerty key pad and a touch skreen. >>>> Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar >>>> Telephone: 0251-2438457 >>>> Mobile: +91 9920410788 >>>> Skype ID- sayanekar >>>> >>>> >>>> Search for previous postings at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Mobile.accessindia mailing list >>>> Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> >>> >>> Search for previous postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Mobile.accessindia mailing list >>> Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> >> >> >> -- >> Mahesh S. Panicker >> Assistant Professor, Department of Political Science, >> Lady Shri Ram College, Lajpat Nagar >> New Delhi 110024 >> >> Search for previous postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> >> >> >> ___ >> Mobile.accessindia mailing list >> Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> http://mail.accessind
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So, does this mean there is no phone having touch and type supporting Android 5? On 4/20/13, Sinoj wrote: > If I am correct, LG, Sony and HTC are not much accessible due to customizing > > the Android OS for their own branding. Good brand is in terms of > accessibility is Samsung. You can also consider Indian companies like > Micromax and Karbonn if you like those. Other members please correct me if I > > am wrong. > --- > Email: > sinoj...@gmail.com > Blog: > http://talkingnet.blogspot.com > Facebook: > http://facebook.com/sinoj.vr > Twitter: > @sinojvr > > -- > From: "yogesh J" > Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 7:37 PM > To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile > phonesand Tabs." > Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] which phone should you buy? > > vow! > thank you jee! > now my all doubts are clear! > I want to buy soni experia z > can I buy it? > its original price is rs. 34000 > but one of my relative he is in customs office > he give me the new mobile with bill in rs. 16000 > that's why I ask about this mobile specifically > please give your valuable commend > > On 4/20/13, Sinoj wrote: >> Jelly Bean is the code name of Android 4.1 version, like XP, Vista, 7 and >> >> 8 >> >> are the code names of Windows. Android 4.0 is called Ice Cream Sandwich >> and >> >> up coming Android 5.0 is Key Lime Py. Android is getting more accessible >> when the release of each editions. Android 4.1 is more accessible than >> 4.0 >> and 5.0 may be more accessible than 4.1. >> --- >> Email: >> sinoj...@gmail.com >> Blog: >> http://talkingnet.blogspot.com >> Facebook: >> http://facebook.com/sinoj.vr >> Twitter: >> @sinojvr >> >> -- >> From: "yogesh J" >> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 4:45 PM >> To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile >> phonesand Tabs." >> Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] which phone should you buy? >> >> experts! sorry for my intereption >> I plan to buy a android mobile around 1 to 12000 >> I don't espect keyboard >> Iam confusing the terms >> gellibeen, android 4.0, android 4.1 and more >> friends please tell me wich 1 is good and accessible? >> what is gellibeen? >> >> >> >> On 4/20/13, Mahesh S. Panicker wrote: >>> I had asked this before but seems like it got lost in the midst of the >>> discussions. Does Samsung Galaxy Chat run on latest Android? Will it >>> be possible to run Android 5 on it when it gets launched? >>> Regards, >>> >>> On 4/20/13, ishita kapoor wrote: >>>> sir, there is only one touch and type model available in market. that >>>> is samsung galaxy chat. which costs around 7500. >>>> >>>> On 4/20/13, Shyam M. Sayanekar wrote: >>>>> Dear Prashant, Prateek, Mukesh and others, a lot has been said about >>>>> the >>>>> Android phones in a very lusid manner, but a simple question, which I >>>>> asked >>>>> >>>>> yesterday also has not been answered and that, is which companies >>>>> provide >>>>> phones with both qwerty key pad and a touch skreen. >>>>> Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar >>>>> Telephone: 0251-2438457 >>>>> Mobile: +91 9920410788 >>>>> Skype ID- sayanekar >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Search for previous postings at: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> Mobile.accessindia mailing list >>>>> Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>> >>>>> to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>>> >>>> >>>> Search for previous postings at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Mobile.accessindia mailing list >>>> Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind
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No, --- Email: sinoj...@gmail.com Blog: http://talkingnet.blogspot.com Facebook: http://facebook.com/sinoj.vr Twitter: @sinojvr -- From: "Vamshi. G" Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 8:18 PM To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phonesand Tabs." Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] which phone should you buy? So, does this mean there is no phone having touch and type supporting Android 5? On 4/20/13, Sinoj wrote: > If I am correct, LG, Sony and HTC are not much accessible due to > customizing > > the Android OS for their own branding. Good brand is in terms of > accessibility is Samsung. You can also consider Indian companies like > Micromax and Karbonn if you like those. Other members please correct me if > I > > am wrong. > --- > Email: > sinoj...@gmail.com > Blog: > http://talkingnet.blogspot.com > Facebook: > http://facebook.com/sinoj.vr > Twitter: > @sinojvr > > -- > From: "yogesh J" > Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 7:37 PM > To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile > phonesand Tabs." > Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] which phone should you buy? > > vow! > thank you jee! > now my all doubts are clear! > I want to buy soni experia z > can I buy it? > its original price is rs. 34000 > but one of my relative he is in customs office > he give me the new mobile with bill in rs. 16000 > that's why I ask about this mobile specifically > please give your valuable commend > > On 4/20/13, Sinoj wrote: >> Jelly Bean is the code name of Android 4.1 version, like XP, Vista, 7 and >> >> 8 >> >> are the code names of Windows. Android 4.0 is called Ice Cream Sandwich >> and >> >> up coming Android 5.0 is Key Lime Py. Android is getting more accessible >> when the release of each editions. Android 4.1 is more accessible than >> 4.0 >> and 5.0 may be more accessible than 4.1. >> --- >> Email: >> sinoj...@gmail.com >> Blog: >> http://talkingnet.blogspot.com >> Facebook: >> http://facebook.com/sinoj.vr >> Twitter: >> @sinojvr >> >> -- >> From: "yogesh J" >> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 4:45 PM >> To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile >> phonesand Tabs." >> Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] which phone should you buy? >> >> experts! sorry for my intereption >> I plan to buy a android mobile around 1 to 12000 >> I don't espect keyboard >> Iam confusing the terms >> gellibeen, android 4.0, android 4.1 and more >> friends please tell me wich 1 is good and accessible? >> what is gellibeen? >> >> >> >> On 4/20/13, Mahesh S. Panicker wrote: >>> I had asked this before but seems like it got lost in the midst of the >>> discussions. Does Samsung Galaxy Chat run on latest Android? Will it >>> be possible to run Android 5 on it when it gets launched? >>> Regards, >>> >>> On 4/20/13, ishita kapoor wrote: >>>> sir, there is only one touch and type model available in market. that >>>> is samsung galaxy chat. which costs around 7500. >>>> >>>> On 4/20/13, Shyam M. Sayanekar wrote: >>>>> Dear Prashant, Prateek, Mukesh and others, a lot has been said about >>>>> the >>>>> Android phones in a very lusid manner, but a simple question, which I >>>>> asked >>>>> >>>>> yesterday also has not been answered and that, is which companies >>>>> provide >>>>> phones with both qwerty key pad and a touch skreen. >>>>> Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar >>>>> Telephone: 0251-2438457 >>>>> Mobile: +91 9920410788 >>>>> Skype ID- sayanekar >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Search for previous postings at: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> Mobile.accessindia mailing list >>>>> Mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>> >>>>> to post send mail to: mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>>> >>>> >>>> Search for p
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i am also fan of qwerty. But in my view, time has come to adjust with touch screen devices. Though i also strongly believe that it will never be as comfortable as qwerty. But we do not have any choice, as black berry is not much accessible, and nokia is outdated. So happy learning... On 4/20/13, Vamshi. G wrote: > So, does this mean there is no phone having touch and type supporting > Android 5? > > > > On 4/20/13, Sinoj wrote: >> If I am correct, LG, Sony and HTC are not much accessible due to >> customizing >> >> the Android OS for their own branding. Good brand is in terms of >> accessibility is Samsung. You can also consider Indian companies like >> Micromax and Karbonn if you like those. Other members please correct me if >> I >> >> am wrong. >> --- >> Email: >> sinoj...@gmail.com >> Blog: >> http://talkingnet.blogspot.com >> Facebook: >> http://facebook.com/sinoj.vr >> Twitter: >> @sinojvr >> >> -- >> From: "yogesh J" >> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 7:37 PM >> To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile >> phonesand Tabs." >> Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] which phone should you buy? >> >> vow! >> thank you jee! >> now my all doubts are clear! >> I want to buy soni experia z >> can I buy it? >> its original price is rs. 34000 >> but one of my relative he is in customs office >> he give me the new mobile with bill in rs. 16000 >> that's why I ask about this mobile specifically >> please give your valuable commend >> >> On 4/20/13, Sinoj wrote: >>> Jelly Bean is the code name of Android 4.1 version, like XP, Vista, 7 >>> and >>> >>> 8 >>> >>> are the code names of Windows. Android 4.0 is called Ice Cream Sandwich >>> and >>> >>> up coming Android 5.0 is Key Lime Py. Android is getting more accessible >>> when the release of each editions. Android 4.1 is more accessible than >>> 4.0 >>> and 5.0 may be more accessible than 4.1. >>> --- >>> Email: >>> sinoj...@gmail.com >>> Blog: >>> http://talkingnet.blogspot.com >>> Facebook: >>> http://facebook.com/sinoj.vr >>> Twitter: >>> @sinojvr >>> >>> -- >>> From: "yogesh J" >>> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 4:45 PM >>> To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile >>> phonesand Tabs." >>> Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] which phone should you buy? >>> >>> experts! sorry for my intereption >>> I plan to buy a android mobile around 1 to 12000 >>> I don't espect keyboard >>> Iam confusing the terms >>> gellibeen, android 4.0, android 4.1 and more >>> friends please tell me wich 1 is good and accessible? >>> what is gellibeen? >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4/20/13, Mahesh S. Panicker wrote: >>>> I had asked this before but seems like it got lost in the midst of the >>>> discussions. Does Samsung Galaxy Chat run on latest Android? Will it >>>> be possible to run Android 5 on it when it gets launched? >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> On 4/20/13, ishita kapoor wrote: >>>>> sir, there is only one touch and type model available in market. that >>>>> is samsung galaxy chat. which costs around 7500. >>>>> >>>>> On 4/20/13, Shyam M. Sayanekar wrote: >>>>>> Dear Prashant, Prateek, Mukesh and others, a lot has been said about >>>>>> the >>>>>> Android phones in a very lusid manner, but a simple question, which I >>>>>> asked >>>>>> >>>>>> yesterday also has not been answered and that, is which companies >>>>>> provide >>>>>> phones with both qwerty key pad and a touch skreen. >>>>>> Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar >>>>>> Telephone: 0251-2438457 >>>>>> Mobile: +91 9920410788 >>>>>> Skype ID- sayanekar >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Search for previous postings at: >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ___ >>>
