[MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n505
In a message dated 99-10-13 00:16:23 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Juno does kick ass, I get to see them again, for the 20th time probably tomorrow night with Promise Ring and Burning Airlines, everyone's favorite homo-core band. >> yes,yes,yes, juno is amazing. saw them open for modest mouse two years ago at the redmond firehouse and was sitting on my hands, waiting patiently until they finally released an album. the song magnified and reduced by inches, on 7", though hard to find, is simply one of the greatest, most breathtaking songs ever. them boys know how to rock the casbah. and, is this a reference to burning airlines or the promise ring as homo-core, and why do you classify them as such? this is not an attack, just a curiosity. when i think homo-core, i think pansy division. is it because one of the promise ringers is gay? or is it a slanderous term? curious star
[MMouse]: small problem/big agreement
yeah, so im probably no better than anyone else for posting this, but i just wanted to get somethin straight... <> <> ok, ya know what!? posts like these are completely unnecessary, and probably even a waste of time for the people who wrote them. not to mention that they completely lack any intelligent commentary. and the following, all words including #s 1-5, is the truest post ive read on here in a long fucking time. everyone should read it again... xo brian In a message dated 10/12/99 12:11:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << OK, that's enough of the band bashing. I'm tired of it. It's juvenile and sophomoric. If you want to trash bands, join a newsgroup. Start a hate club. Burn a public building. Just stop fucking complaining on a fucking mailing list about it. No one gives a shit who you hate. No one. If you want to tell everyone how you hate a band so that you can unite under a banner of hatred against a common cause, you are no better than a racist or bigot. Is that going too far? Have I said too much? What positive influence can come from trashing countless bands? There is nothing that you can say. All you are doing is creating constant negative feedback, constructing more hate. Now obviously, hating an artist or music is not nearly as evil as hating another human being. But whether or not you like a band, that artist is doing something that they like to do. You are not obligated to like it. In fact, some musicians are hoping you will hate them, I'm sure. But all of this bullshit contributes NOTHING to a discussion on a Modest Mouse mailing list. Not a damn thing. Summary: Stop hating everything. Start liking something. I'll get you going... #1: Sonic Youth is one of my favorite bands. There are few bands as innovative with sound as Sonic Youth. #2: Godspeed You Black Emperor is an excellent band. They are incredible live, making music that could be considered a film score to a movie that was never made. Their vinyl releases are packaged by hand with deluxe care and sequenced differently from the CD, so I recommend owning both formats if you have only one or the other. #3: Mogwai blew me away three times in three weeks last month. I don't think any band is more powerful live than Mogwai. Their first show of this tour was at the Black Cat in Washington, DC, and it was just so amazingly lush and perfect, I can't explain it. If you have a chance to see this band, go go go. #4: The greatest rapper of the next decade is Kool Keith. His style is light years ahead of what is being released this year, and he continues to evolve. I highly recommend everything he's done. #5: Handsome Boy Modeling School comes out next week, featuring Prince Paul and Dan the Automator. If you like beats, this album should make yr teets swell. Positive Energy Activates Constant Elevation *phiL* >>
[MMouse]: honestly
honestly, i've never been a huge sonic youth fan-it's just not what i normally enjoy. i do respect them, they have a lot of influence and historic weight on a lot of what i do really enjoy. the only sonic youth song i truly LOVE is "winner's blues." that song's lovely. kirstin.
Re: [MMouse]: Re: Sonic Youth Is Overrated and They Suck
> With all due respect to everybody, I did not sign up to the Modest > Mouse mailing list to find out why everybody hates or does not hate Sonic > Youth or when Red Stars Theory are playing next in Possum Ridge, Arkansas. > I signed up to discuss and/or learn more about Modest Mouse. we all did, and we all should be aware before signing up for mailing lists that people aren't gonna necessarily talk about what other people like, and there are gonna be arguments, there are gonna be disagreements about what band sucks, what band is good..whatever. if you don't like it, get off. i'm probably speaking alone here but i can deal with that. of course other bands are gonna come up and certainly if they have something to do with modest mouse. learn to like it or don't. - amy, who's trying to ease her mind with a fun 'if i post my page address, i wonder how many of you will show up to see it' experiment. http://206.62.212.90
[MMouse]: i might... and you might.. but neither of us do
hey im listening to "might" and he actually says "i broke every bone in my goddamn jaw" does this seem ironic to any of the rest of you? russ
Re: [MMouse]: sonic youth non-fans coming out
> > > noise for the sake of noise, personally. but hey. speaking of things i > > don't like, i got the 'red letter day' ep by the get up kids and it blows! Okay, that album is truly great. I wanted to hate it at first to, just because it's more produced, but I think it is really good. They do a great job live of keeping the energy up and on as well. > If you didn't like the EP, the new album probably doesn't have a whole lot > to offer you. I think it sounds like Weezer (whom I also love). I don't see the wheezer comparisons. > > for bands still making that kinda sound? Indian Summer just released an old 6 or 8 song live record, it's really great. Get that. You can always go on the hunt for an old Hated record. > I think Christie Front Drive is still keepin it real...At The Drive In for > slightly punkier stuff...And it's a little different, but the new Juno > album is amazing. I thought Christie Front Drive had been broke up for over a year and a half? Their new side project is called "The Blue Ontario", that's totally worth getting. If you wanna check out something realy emo, pick up "Rocky Votaloto's" new record. Its' really good acoustic ramblings. Juno does kick ass, I get to see them again, for the 20th time probably tomorrow night with Promise Ring and Burning Airlines, everyone's favorite homo-core band. rosco
Re: [MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n504
It's really good, it's hard to put it into words how it actually sounds. The production is really great, very moody music. It has a sonic-ness to it that is great for lazing around the house on a Sunday afternoon. The guitars were done REALLY well. My only quam with the whole album is that the drums are a bit buried at times. Since Jeremy's drumming is usually impecable, I wish I could have heard them a bit bigger. There are female vocals on one track, that are really nice. Odd to hear such good vocals over the mix. James's vocals are really good as well, they were recorded just right. This album flows from one end to the next, really worth the purchase. cv - Original Message - From: amna a. akbar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 3:12 PM Subject: [MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n504 > anyone heard the new red stars theory? > how is it? > > [keep on keep keep on keep on keep on keep on keep on keep on keep on] >
[MMouse]: modest mouse TONIGHT IN SAN FRANCISCO
hey there all... i'm still desperately looking for a ticket to the modest mouse show tonight at the great american music hall. if anyone has an extra ticket they'd be willing to sell, PLEASE call me at (831) 469-3972 or write me here privately. thanks again! ben
Re: [MMouse]: Re: Sonic Youth Is Overrated and They Suck
At 07:29 PM 10/12/99 -0400, you wrote: >Oh My Gawd.I thought I was all alone is this! I cannot express in words >alone how much I dis-like Sonic Youth. It is completly baffling to me the >amount of people that like what they do. --mike Alright, alright, alright. Enough already. With all due respect to everybody, I did not sign up to the Modest Mouse mailing list to find out why everybody hates or does not hate Sonic Youth or when Red Stars Theory are playing next in Possum Ridge, Arkansas. I signed up to discuss and/or learn more about Modest Mouse. Of course, this is a pretty old debate, period, going way back to message boards on BBSs and such. And it's not like this mailing list has a FAQ to follow. So, uh, if I have to put up with 50 non-related emails before getting one on-topic one, cordially let me know so I can unsubscribe. If the mailing list isn't usually so off-topic and I had bad timing subscribing a few months ago, let me know also. Thanks. - Matt
[MMouse]: Re: Sonic Youth Is Overrated and They Suck
Oh My Gawd.I thought I was all alone is this! I cannot express in words alone how much I dis-like Sonic Youth. It is completly baffling to me the amount of people that like what they do. --mike - Original Message - From: johnny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 3:38 PM Subject: RE: [MMouse]: > yes, sonic youth is the most overrated band in the universe. they suck. > > johnny > > > i confess. i dont like sonic youth either. i kind of like that one song, > > "compilation blues" from the DGC rarities comp., but besides that, its > > just a bunch of noise to me. that's all. > > > > > > ben A. > > > >
Re: [MMouse]: sonic youth non-fans coming out
On Mon, 11 Oct 1999, baby spine wrote: > noise for the sake of noise, personally. but hey. speaking of things i > don't like, i got the 'red letter day' ep by the get up kids and it blows! It sounds like watered down MTV crapola. But it's the Get Up Kids playing complex watered down MTV crapola (with a member of coalesce) and I love it. Except Mass Pike...that song makes me want to kill people. > anyone have the new album? is it better or worse? If you didn't like the EP, the new album probably doesn't have a whole lot to offer you. I think it sounds like Weezer (whom I also love). > and another question and > then i'll shut up--seems like alot of bands once labeled emo are now getting > really pop-y (g.u.k., jimmy eat world, p.ring)...and since i like "the emo" > alot and wanna go record shopping soon, does anyone have any recommendations > for bands still making that kinda sound? I saw a band last night with the Get Up Kids who do the old skool emo thang...watch out for them, they're called Letdown. Apparently they were together for a while as Phoenix, AZ and then got a new drummer or something and wrote new songs. That was about a month and a half ago, so they didn't sound very polished, but they were real good. I think Christie Front Drive is still keepin it real...At The Drive In for slightly punkier stuff...And it's a little different, but the new Juno album is amazing. ___ Ben Hubbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___
[MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n504
anyone heard the new red stars theory? how is it? [keep on keep keep on keep on keep on keep on keep on keep on keep on]
RE: [MMouse]:
yes, sonic youth is the most overrated band in the universe. they suck. johnny > i confess. i dont like sonic youth either. i kind of like that one song, > "compilation blues" from the DGC rarities comp., but besides that, its > just a bunch of noise to me. that's all. > > > ben A. >
[MMouse]: godspeed and Sonic Yooth
> any of you modest mouse fold listen to godspeed you > black emperor? > If not you should check them out they are on the > kranky label. Everything on Kranky is really damn good. GYBE! are the best, but Labradford and Windy & Carl are almost as good. > In my opinion they are a canadian orchestra for "emo" > manic depressives. I don't think they're depressing at all. In fact, many of their songs are ultimately quite uplifting and radiant. They're definitely sad sometimes, maybe melancholy, definitely cinematic, but far from depressing... no more (or less, I suppose) depressing than Dirty Three... And they don't sound anything like "emo", but I'm sure you know that. > i'm coming out as a non-sonic youth fan for ya...i love "teenage riot" and > "100%" but beyond that i find them overrated and irritating...i dont' like > noise for the sake of noise, personally. I won't debate anyone's taste in music... I think Sonic Youth are consistently "very good" but rarely "great"... BUT they are anything but "noise for the sake of noise". Jesus, I hate to imagine what you'd think of Merzbow or some of the Boredoms' stuff. If you like "Teenage Riot" and "100%" I'd think you'd like the entire albums -Daydream Nation-, -Goo-, and -Dirty-... there's really almost no "noise" on any of those. I've yet to hear one good emo band. The singer for SDRE... now THAT'S what I call "noise for the sake of noise". Yikes. np:Godspeed You Black Emperor!, "Blaise Bailey Finnegan III" -- ...extensive liner notes and make-believe alien languages... Rev. Jack Godsey. http://members.tripod.com/~spill/index.html Spiritual counsel and webmaster for Pegasi 51. http://members.tripod.com/pegasi51/index.html
[MMouse]: ciccone
hey um... some guy posted about making a cd of non-cd modest mouse stuff. i dont have mice eat cheese but im interested in trading for a copy of the cd whenever he's done. by the way, isnt there an mp3 of mice eat cheese at that one modest mouse site with all the mp3s? couldnt that work? im technologically illiterate so dont sneer at me. im all for s.y. and punkrawk girls Email services provided by ApexMail http://www.apexmail.com
[MMouse]: model handsome boy thing..
is thom yorke not working with that anymore? i know he was going to a while back. and i totally agree with the mogwai comment, ive not seen a band give it as much as they do. ohh yeh one more thing.. has anyone got pics of Eric playing? or an idea what his tattoo is.. im just intrigued. bye. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
[MMouse]: red letter (and its an f)
Yeah, i liked a couple of songs off the last get up kids album so i figured id get the red letter day cd. I agree, it is pretty disapointing. They sound way pop now, the vocals are pretty whiny, and theres synth all over the place. Not that i have anything against pop, whiny vocals, syth, or bands changing their sound...but in this case, i dont think the combination worked out. Oh well. As far as new releases goes, i havent heard anything recently that i absolutely loved. The newest pavement is kind of disappointing, the newest superchunk is alright...better than indoor living, hmmm, if youre a fugazi fan, definately get the instrument film. The american analog set's new one is pretty good. Anyone else out there got anything to say about new releases? = __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
Re: [MMouse]: sonic youth non-fans coming out
> I think I love almost every sonic youth song out there, and it's so much more > than noise for the sake of noise, so tally one up for our side!! i'd agree with the whole 'i don't like noise for the sake of noise' comment if it were true about sonic youth. yeah, they do alot of songs with lots of noise, but how much sonic youth has this girl heard? there are sooo many songs that don't really have all that much noise. sister wasn't even really that much of a noisey album. it had a lot of fucked up guitars but whatever, not very much noise at all. please, please (whoever started this damn thing) listen to at least some of the albums before you go off on a band that i think at least most of us have alot of respect for. - amy
[MMouse]: Alright already, kids.
OK, that's enough of the band bashing. I'm tired of it. It's juvenile and sophomoric. If you want to trash bands, join a newsgroup. Start a hate club. Burn a public building. Just stop fucking complaining on a fucking mailing list about it. No one gives a shit who you hate. No one. If you want to tell everyone how you hate a band so that you can unite under a banner of hatred against a common cause, you are no better than a racist or bigot. Is that going too far? Have I said too much? What positive influence can come from trashing countless bands? There is nothing that you can say. All you are doing is creating constant negative feedback, constructing more hate. Now obviously, hating an artist or music is not nearly as evil as hating another human being. But whether or not you like a band, that artist is doing something that they like to do. You are not obligated to like it. In fact, some musicians are hoping you will hate them, I'm sure. But all of this bullshit contributes NOTHING to a discussion on a Modest Mouse mailing list. Not a damn thing. Summary: Stop hating everything. Start liking something. I'll get you going... #1: Sonic Youth is one of my favorite bands. There are few bands as innovative with sound as Sonic Youth. #2: Godspeed You Black Emperor is an excellent band. They are incredible live, making music that could be considered a film score to a movie that was never made. Their vinyl releases are packaged by hand with deluxe care and sequenced differently from the CD, so I recommend owning both formats if you have only one or the other. #3: Mogwai blew me away three times in three weeks last month. I don't think any band is more powerful live than Mogwai. Their first show of this tour was at the Black Cat in Washington, DC, and it was just so amazingly lush and perfect, I can't explain it. If you have a chance to see this band, go go go. #4: The greatest rapper of the next decade is Kool Keith. His style is light years ahead of what is being released this year, and he continues to evolve. I highly recommend everything he's done. #5: Handsome Boy Modeling School comes out next week, featuring Prince Paul and Dan the Automator. If you like beats, this album should make yr teets swell. Positive Energy Activates Constant Elevation *phiL* = __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
[MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n503
someone start a promise ring list..no,really..please.
[MMouse]:
i confess. i dont like sonic youth either. i kind of like that one song, "compilation blues" from the DGC rarities comp., but besides that, its just a bunch of noise to me. that's all. ben A.
[MMouse]: this plane is definitely crashing....
sorry, about two posts in such quick succession, but i got two fairly good ideas and a tummy full of french vanilla coffee, so look out... RE:the debate regarding the merits of burning airlines--point yr eyes towards mr Wedrenstar, and drink in his knowledgethe jawbox are as influential a band as anyone, once again, if you dont know , go do some audio homework...call ian mackaye, and ask him if he liked the jawbox...sure, they made a questionable indie-major jump with for your special sweetheart (or whatever it was called), but savory was a damn fine song and good video to boot. slag burning airlines if you want, but dont slag the membership, this project may be ill-fated, but its not that horrible...leprosy is horrible, getting caught masturbating is horrible, sucking chest wounds are horrible, burning airlines is just not quite "modestmouse" great, thats all. ps- to russ, i didnt hear no karate breakup story eitherthose boys were round new haven not too long ago, they are nice fellows, eh? mattnotterrible "push out the jive , bring in the love" ---M.E. Burns
[MMouse]: bandwagon jumper#88
far be it for me to stay out of a conversation that i was not included in... but when it comes to the mighty sonic youth, i take that as fighting words, where i come from the sonic youth laid the blueprint for 3, maybe 4 million different guitar bands since 19 and seventy whatever...i mean where would blonde redhead be w/o the youth..? to the younger listees, do the math, and i dont mean math rock, i mean the sonic youth are like a treasure chest of sounds and songs and "indie guitar swing"think they're major label trash, pick up the silver session cd, released for a dead fan,as tributepick up the 3-cd series on syr records, with jim o'rourke, and others, and then tell me the SY are not as indie as all get out to the sensitive listboy- noise for noise sake is what its all aboutno noise equals everclear.its yr trip,kill yr idols. thanks for the precious time. obsessive fanboy in the SY army #47 mattnice
