[MMouse]: squashed interview with MM

1999-12-08 Thread Kate Mercier

this interview is worth a good laugh:  check it out.  oh, and hey, how can i
change the e-mail address i want the list sent to?  someone help me!  i'm
trapped in netscape hell! here's the link:  
http://www.squashed.com/mouse.htm   enjoy,  k8



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[MMouse]: ---BECK--- musical genius, or merely ingenuine?

1999-12-08 Thread Philip Smoker

This is a little rant about Beck.
I've seen Beck catching a lot of slack from people
whose taste in music I highly respect.  The common
argument is that Beck is no longer doing anything
innovative, that he is simply assimilating the popular
sounds of the moment and trying to remain in the
spotlight for as long as possible.  Well, I disagree,
and this is why:

Beck started out with an acoustic guitar and some tape
recorder that would make Fisher Price look like Harmon
Kardon.  He would commit some of the most
categorically demented sounds to tape and circulate
them as music.  It's difficult for me to describe just
how warped albums like Golden Feelings and A Western
Harvest Field by Moonlight truly are, not to mention
the early collection of Fresh Meat and Old Slabs.  One
example would be "Special People," an acapella song
featuring Beck's voice in about four different
registers, not singing notes so much as speaking them.
 But on the same tape lies, "Let's Go Moon Some Cars,"
with a folky strum and a tuneful melody, as well as
"The Ballad of Mexico" in which he details trying to
rob his boss at a fast food joint with an earnest
sincerity that could not possibly be feigned (and a
better radio recording surfaced on KCRW Rare On Air
Vol. 1).  All through this early period, Beck was
tearing apart and reassembling the genres that he was
exposed to in his youth, whether it was folk, country,
rock, or some experimental combination thereof, never
once repeating himself.  He generated these songs
organically, whether hunched over a tape deck or out
on the streets of LA playing for passers-by.  And the
sproadic nature of the recordings points to those
musically diverse influences as being equally weighted
in his mind, one never more vital than another.

But Beck pushed the envelope further with his first
proper studio recording, Stereopathetic Soul Manure.  
Comprised of material that spanned six years of
recordings, there is no single word to describe the
cross-section of music on this album.  The opening
track, "Pink Noise (Rock Me Amadeus)," ends in a
flurry of feedback that abruptly gives way to the
quiet country twang of "Rowboat," complete with pedal
steel guitar.  The story-telling of "Satan Gave Me a
Taco" is followed shortly thereafter by the rock of
"Tasergun."  And the whole collection concludes with
15-minutes of pure analog bliss, noise over noise,
droning on without ever seeming repetitious.  Love.

And then came "Loser."  My first exposure to Beck, and
probably the majority of the world's.  I still
remember the first time I saw that video, at least two
months before I could locate any kind of single for
it.  It was unlike anything I'd ever heard, a huge
beat pulling an acoustic slide guitar with a rusty
chain of white-boy funk.  I loved it, but what killed
me about this song was how much people (i.e. critics,
people in the music press) read into it, taking the
chorus completely out of the utterly-nonsensical
context of the rest of the song to raise it in the air
as some standard for the so-called 'slacker'
generation.  "In the time of chimpanzees I was a
monkey/butane in my veins and I'm out to get the
junkie/with the plastic eyeballs, spray-paint the
vegtetables..."  come on, read those fucking lyrics!! 
How could anyone possibly attribute some
socio-cultural message to so much rhythmic drivel?  It
was great!  Beck was and continues to be the first to
admit that his lyrics come last, usually chosen
strictly for the way they flow, the way they sound,
instead of what they mean.  And people latched onto
this song with overzealous abandon, completely unaware
that Beck had to be sitting somewhere going, "well, if
they think it means something grandiose, who am I to
argue?"  And so it was, Mellow Gold goes gold.

So what would the next logical step be in the
evolution of an artist?  Beck took a few steps back
from the table and returned to his roots in some ways
with One Foot in the Grave, a huge departure from the
visionary direction that Mellow Gold had taken. 
Again, songs recorded over the course of time, not
necessarily dated to its time of release, Beck can
still be heard singing campfire songs around the gas
fireplace, getting the trees to stomp along to songs
that ache to be remembered.  "She's just the girl of
my dreams but it seems my dreams never come true."  Or
take into consideration one of my all-time favorites:
"She dangles carrots/makes you feel embarrassed/to be
the fool you know you are/she'll do anything/to make
you feel like an asshole."  Could all of those
extranneous moments of lyrical frivolity give way to
genuine emotion, a lonesome voice in the distance?  
I'd like to think so.  For all of the skronks and
squeals of his other work, Beck was not afraid to step
out from behind that dissonance and deliver the goods.

The critics then bruised and battered themselves as
they stumbled over various and sundry accolades with
which to reward the effort of Odelay.  I don't
understand how 

[MMouse]: to everyone who thinks beck is doing something new

1999-12-08 Thread blucadet3 do you connect?

Getting all soulfull is nothing new, go listen to Bowie's Young American LP. 
Its a million times better than the new Beck.

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Re: [MMouse]: to everyone who thinks beck is doing something new

1999-12-08 Thread Dustin Summers

No one ever on this list ever said Midnight Vultures is something new!

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Subject: [MMouse]: to everyone who thinks beck is doing something new
Date: Wed, Dec 8, 1999, 2:46 PM


 Getting all soulfull is nothing new, go listen to Bowie's Young American LP.
 Its a million times better than the new Beck.

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[MMouse]: a very brief beck overview.

1999-12-08 Thread jackie 0

Stereopathetic Soul Manure - A really good Ween album.

Mellow Gold - One of the best of the decade.  Truly visionary and not a
bad song on it.

One Foot in the Grave - Absolutely amazing.  Great folk, great dingy-bar
blues, great everything.

Odelay - Amazing for about two weeks - haven't listened to it since.

Mutations - His best album, overall.  Combines the songwriting and
simplicity of One Foot in the Grave with some truly beautiful
production.

Midnight Vultures - Haven't bought it yet, but heard it in the store. 
It amazed me, but as with Odelay, I think after two weeks I'll be tired
of it.  This is not the Beck I prefer - I don't like the
"kitsch-schlock-funk" Beck, I like the burnt-out-Dylan Beck.

That's all I got to say about that.


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[MMouse]: (no subject)

1999-12-08 Thread FritzCat8

well it was my list
i disagree 
oh well
 OK..S+E is a great album and whatnot and I know "rock critics" are all ooh 
 ahh about it but there is no way in hell that is a better album than Crooked 
 Rain Crooked Rain.  I listen to that album hundred million more than S+E  
 It's so much better.  The music is so much better.  The lyrics are better.  
 The artwork is better.  Jesus it just kicks the shit out of other Pavement 
 shit.  I'm listening to this fucking album right now and I'm rocking out.  
So 
 if someone wants to enlighten me or whatever go ahead but I just have to say 
 what the fuck.  
 
 Matt
  



Re: [MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n603

1999-12-08 Thread jsl04



A junk habit? What do you call a career, wife and, especially, children?!


J.


On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 why the hell do you give a shit
 i think your opinions are wrong too
 
   24.Sublime-40 oz. to Freedom
  sorry to sound insensitive, but i had had the misfortune of hearing mr. 
  nowell's music before he died, and heard when he died, and i thought, well, 
  at least i won't have to hear him all over the radio.  87 posthumous albums 
  later, it is a cruel world indeed.   (and, in my defense, i can't feel sorry 
  for someone who puts a junk habit before his career, wife, and especially, 
  his daughter). 
 



[MMouse]: PIEBALD

1999-12-08 Thread Andrew Hager

okay no piebald doesnt sound anything like hardcore...they used to have a kind of a 
screamy sound but
they are totally beyond that..and now they a straight up rock/popbut they are very 
good..the newer
c.d. isnt as good as the one before itthat was a pop masterpeice in my opinion. 
also...they are
wonderful to see live...they are soo entertaining and friendly.
andrew