Re: [MMouse]: Fwd: lyrics for Whenever You See Fit
for about 2 months, everynmorning I would wake up everymorning, drink strong black brewed coffee with my flatmates, smoke a joint or two and listen to this song. It's s good.and even better stoned. L. > heres the best i can do .. isaac is tabbed in > > Whenever You See Fit: > > you and me > whenever we go wrong > nothing is clearwake up early and you live to regret > and you tell the truth and your talking on the telephone > whenever you see fitlooking at yourself like your all alone > wake up early and you live to regret > spend some time > whenever you go wrong > wake up early and you live to regret > tell the truth > wake up early and you live to regret > whenever you see fit > wake up early and you live to regret > well youre talking on the telephone > everythings wrong looking at yourself like your all alone > and everything you ever did > wake up early and you live to regret > everythings wrong > talking on the telephone > talking like taco bell > you go to bed early and youll talk to your pillow > you go to bed early and youll talk to your pillow > you go to bed early and youll talk to your pillow > you go to bed early and youll talk to your pillow > you and me > whenever we see fit > nothing is cleartalking on the telephone > looking at ourselves like were all alone > and everything you ever said > wake up early and youll live to regret it > wake up early and youll live to regret it > > > > they just repeat this stuff > > ruxx > Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
Re: [MMouse]: show me the perfect free market, and I'll sho
> So, I'm uneducated, eh? We'll come to that later. The libertarian party is so > named because it is the only party which recognizes the sovereignty of the > individual, in other words, liberty. Ok, mr educated. explain how the sovereignty of the individual benefits a 3 week old child. Don't get me wrong, I am an anarchist that believes in self determination - but you have to take into account that we are communal in some aspects. I am not advocating some kind of communism, just recognition of the facts: like that it is easy for men to be libertarian, but women have more of an ethic of care regards themselves, their offspring, and the community. Libertarianism cannot and does not address these issues at all. L. Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
Re: [MMouse]: whenever you see fit
> kristin, > i totally agree with you on the lyrics. "talking shit about a pretty > sunset" is me to a T. i always make my mind up and feel so sure about it, > and then later i completely change everything about me, right mark? where is this song from? L. Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
[MMouse]:
Without wanting to sound _completely_ ignorant, will someone please explain to a non-tv watching Australian what the fuck Conan O'Brian is? I've heard about this person on the Verve, the pavement, and the MM mailing lists over the years. L. Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
Re: [MMouse]: built to spill
> >i love built to spill! I have no trouble starting this war: Keep it like a secret is good. BUT when listened to in respect of Perfect from now on, it is crap. PFNO is a masterpeice. L. Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
Re: [MMouse]: all you need
I don't want to be a downer, but you have the money to buy the cds, you have the money and privledge to enjoy yr tastes in style, and you can still experience yr alienation second hand through the music you purchase. Of course yr lucky. You should be me, I'm even luckier - pretty girlfriend, government subsidy to study, upper- middle class background, white, male, Australian, literate, computer savvy, and great taste in music. What more could you want? Let's try for: world peace, the end of hunger and want, free education for all, freedom from armed threat from anyone and anyplace, liberation. of course yr lucky, be thankful yr not cynical too. L. > where the music is coming from, everything is hidden. So, anyway, we're all > just standing around having a few drinks, a few tokes from the dolphin bong, > "Edit the sad parts" came on, and me and this other girl are dancing > together, everyone's having a blast. I tell you, that right there just made > me realize how lucky we are to know such great music, and how we just seem > to have this knowledge of something that so many people don't have. It used > to be frustrating when I would talk about bands, and no one would know what > I'm talking about, but now I'm glad. It's the best music that no one's ever > heard, except those of us who are intelligent enough to seek out something Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
Re: [MMouse]: guilty pleasures
> guilty pleasures...i have madonna and cyndi lauper cravings once in a while. > *hezi* ok, so as well as roxette, I must admit to cyndi now too... L. Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
Re: [MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n340
my secret pleasure is Roxette, in particular, a song titled, 'silver blue'. Transvision Vamp, and Ratcat are also in there L. > If everyone is now confessing their guilty pleasures I guess I must admit > mine and I wont be surprised if I get a lot of shit for it, but I'm a big > lover of Slayer. Yes, it is pretty terrible, but I think it stems from my > liking of such groups as the Deftones, Quicksand, BarkMarket, Far, etc. My > taste in music has a tendency to reach far across the board considering my > favorite musician is Neil Young. But anyway, just thought I would confess > my guilty pleasure of "butt-rock" but hey... Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
Re: [MMouse]: the cursed internet
Not so much exploit it as recognise that it does exist in society through the social dialogue/social discourse that is music (the new poetry!?). I mean, I think weezer are just about the only all boy band I know that sing about their experiences with lesbianism, a concept that has been around a bit longer than the internet. Doesn't anyone else think that's strange. It's not like we don't have contact with lesbians (or whatever) in our society, so why not integrate the ideas and culture, be it sexuality, internet, grrrl, into the discourse, so we stop looking at these things as 'weird' and just as things that we will have to accept exist and deal with. $0.02 L. > << (anytime a band mentions the internet in one of > their songs, they've lost me) >> > > > "workin real hard to make internet cash.." - jesus christ was an only child.. > granted its not one of my personal favorites but i thought id throw that in > there just to shake things up a bit.. and jsut because a band mentions the > internet in one of there songs, does that make their work any less valid.. > the worst you could accuse them of being is modern... they are only righting > about things that are relevant to the present, whats the harm in that... i > think if you can find an interesting and thought-provoking enough way to use > it ( which i dont know that ive seen or found yet) then by all means exploit > it... > > matt. > > Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
Re: [MMouse]: lame attempt at conversation...
> Belle & Sebastian? Who are they? Excellent scottish pop band. Like Eric Mathews, Nick Drake, The lucksmiths...Think a british version of Apples In Stereo. > Have there been any good albums released this year? I keep forgetting. B&S's Arab Strap is a grower, Mogwai too is good, BTS - I don't understand. I like the album, don't get me wrong, but your looking at yr cd stack, you peruse BTS, Why would you put on Keep It Like A Secret if you could put on Perfect From Now On? It doesn't make sense. (please, this is my opinion - others may think different). Olivier Tremor Control are doing to pop in the nineties what the beatles did in the 60's - turning it on its head. Finally, the drugs _do_ work (again). L. Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
[MMouse]: modest mouse
I was about to berate you all for being so quiet, but ppl have started talking again which is nice. Lets talk about new bands that aren't MM, so that I, in Australia, can remain on the cutting edge. heheheheheeheh Seriously, what I really wanted to know was: What is the name of the other incarnation of God Speed You Black Emporer?, Someone mentioned both here a while ago, and I liked the name, so I got this US based zine with a free cd that had fugazi, God speed, and some other stuff that was cool, now I get the album and my faltmates wont give the cd back - it's stuck on permanent rotation in the lounge room. help me with my quest, mousekateers L. Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
Re: [MMouse]: Yoyo A Go Go or Bust!!!
Um, yeah - we only get the bands come to Australia when there's enough to fill a stadium, or on some huge loolapalooza-esque tour type thing where you will always find Marilyn Manson or some other cock rock crap headliners and if yr lucky maybe sonic youth'll play. I don't even really like SY, but thats as good as we get. Quit yr moaning! DIY. L. > ok. i don't live in the west and i can't help you about yr trip, but i > just wanted to say that i'd kill to be you. also, yr message kind of > despresses me. > > i'll explain: i am, as well, a 17 year old girl, but i'm stuck in > KENTUCKY. yeah. ok. modest mouse was here about 2 years ago, but i > didn't see them cuz i couldn't get to louisville. the only "indie" type > shows i've been to were in athens, georgia, and cincinnati (pavement and > sonic youth respectively) so i have to Really Travel to see the indie > rock. and yes, the crowds at both of those shows were actually pretty > sucky. sometimes i'd kill to have some pretentious 20something indie > people around, because there is One other person in this town who is > into the music i am. i'm not trying to undermine you, cuz i can see > that it's annoying to be around those pretentious indiefans all the > time, but please, remember you have the music at least, and appreciate > it. > > anyway. i've often thought the west would be a good place to go and see > all the good bands and all...but check out tour dates, and see how many > good bands entirely skip the west in favor of the east (they skip the > south too). > > so. sorry if i've offended you or anything. i just wanted to say that. > > kat evol > "http://members.tripod.com/terrarium" > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > OK. Here's the thing. I'm a 17 year old girl stuck on the uptight east > > coast. I hardly get to experience fun shows over here. Don't get me wrong we > > get our share of good shows, Modest Mouse, Chisel, the Make Up, Bratmobile, > > Yo La Tengo, and I even saw Braid last night. I mean Im sure it could be > > worse. The thing that bothers me though is that everyone here (New Haven, CT) > > is so pretentious about music it makes me want to puke. People go to shows > > just to be seen at them it seems. It's almost strict in a way and I try not > > to pay attention to it but it still ruins shows because they just aren't as > > fun. It's just a bunch of jaded 20-something year-olds grumbling about what > > bands they saw and who they hung out with; and the ones who are younger just > > slump and sway to the music and wear glasses because being a nerd is cool > > these days. For as long as I've been diggin' the whole indie rock scene I've > > just wanted to go hang out with all the happy show-goers oout west. Maybe Im > > wrong maybe you all hate each other, thats just how it seems to me. > Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
Re: [MMouse]:
> hey* > i was wondering if any of you modest mouse fans live on long island, > like me> Any other australians? L. Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
Re: [MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n299
> does anyone else think that it's kind of cheap for the mouse to play a > slight variation of the same setlist every god damned night? correct me > if i'm wrong, but every setlist i see consists of "cowboy dan," "tailer > trash," "doin' the cockroach," "tundra desert," "dramamine" and then a > few interchangable numbers. you would think a band with such a girth of > material would vary their live show a bit. y'know? Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
Re: [MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n299
> does anyone else think that it's kind of cheap for the mouse to play a > slight variation of the same setlist every god damned night? correct me > if i'm wrong, but every setlist i see consists of "cowboy dan," "tailer > trash," "doin' the cockroach," "tundra desert," "dramamine" and then a > few interchangable numbers. you would think a band with such a girth of > material would vary their live show a bit. y'know? Quit yr whinging. At least you get to see them play live. Some of us are stuck with the same versions of those songs EVERYDAY. Try not to be so blind. L. Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
Re: [MMouse]: limits/deadline/help!
> alright...ive gotten more than twenty emails from kids saying they wanna > contribute to the tape. i think that we need to make a cut-off > point...otherwise theres not gonna be enough room on the tapes. > > and are we setting a deadline for when all of the tapes need to be sent? > > i also think that there should be a few more people dubbing and sending the > tapes...cos, being a full time college student, i dont have the time to record > and send fifty+ tapes. any volunteers? Don't stop people from sending tapes. Don't discourage creativity. Just say "the first tape will only have the first 90 minutes of music that I get, on it" and maybe you'll get enough to make you consider doing another... L. Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
Re: [MMouse]: i'm not happy right now
> Why not? Why can't you listen to music that you enjoy just because > one of the creators [allegedly] raped someone? I can understand not > wanting to purchase future CD's, but I think it would be silly to stop > listening to the ones you have. > christian do you really christian? You would be able to listen to that music without the thought 'oh my god, the voice on this record belongs to a man who (alledgedly) raped a woman' once going through your head? It would make me physically sick. But I guess I think rape is a pretty serious matter, that effects _everyone_ L. Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
Re: [MMouse]: drugs again
if you enjoy life do not watch naked lunch by william s burroughs when drunk. sobering up in 15 minutes is bad. It hurts. L. > umm i agree that its easier to totally focus on some form of entertainment > when stoned. everytime i watch a movie stoned its way better than sober. > only one problem.. i also fall asleep everytime. therefore i no longer > watch movies stoned. of course, i no longer get stoned so i dont have many > opportunities. > however... when tripping, the meaning and message of devo becomes totally > clear and brilliant, and i understand why evildead2 is a classic allegory. > ummm i also agree with maddy that good stuff (stuff meaning music, etc, not > *stuff*) gives you a natural high.. you can train yrself to just focus on > the music or whatever and not have to do other things and learn to get to > that level without drugs.. yeah it sounds cheesy but at least it doesnt > fuck up yr head... drugs are essentially just a crutch for people who cant > be happy, or thoroughly enjoy music, or whatever it is that they like drugs > for, without em. if that made sense > sheepie > > > ** http://members.tripod.com/~BRA1N1AC ** > > ** he used to do surgery for girls in the eighties but GRAVITY always wins > and it wears him out. ** > > Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
Re: [MMouse]: las drogas
I just realised that this list is finally going through its drug discussion phase. The verve list I was on went through it about 3.5 years ago and it ended in major purging and arguments and that kind of crap. Please let's keep it civilised, we're all friends here. ps for the record: as good as bts perfect from now on is on pot, nothing beats listening to it on mushrooms - for the ultimate psychadelic mind fuck. L. > i guess life itself is enough for me. never smoked, don't drink and never > been drunk. have no desire to do either, never have. according to some > people, that makes me boring or a "goody two shoes". not really, but it > does seem to make me rare... > > natalie > > But never met this Fellow > Attended, or alone > Without a tighter breathing > And Zero at the Bone- > -Emily Dickinson > > Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
Re: [MMouse]: *tape*
> okay, this might seem like a completely stupid/pointless idea to some of > you...but i was wondering if anyone would be interested in putting together a > modest mouse "tribute" tape of sorts...i know there are a lotta musicians on > this list, so i was thinking that people could record themselves doing mm > songs, and then send them to me to mix onto a tape. then i could copy and > send the tapes to anybody who wants one...i think it would be purty interestin > if enough people wanna make the effort... It has worked quite well on the pavement list - they are up to their third tape. I only got the first one, but it was pretty good. It's more of a laugh than anything, but sometimes you may just get a gem. (80's hair metal version of 'cut yr hair') L. Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
Re: [MMouse]: Early results
I smoke/drink and smoke pot as well. And the strange thing is I like a long drive as a smoking pot album as well, although I prefer whenever you see fit. nmh's aeroplane/sea is also kinda cool, but a bit depressing. L. > I smoke cigarettes. I drink. I used to smoke down a lot in high school > and occasionally drop acid. After my first year of college I pretty > much quit that shit. Pot started to make me paranoid. As for sports, I > pretty much hate them all. Minus tennis. > > > > Here's my 2 or so cents: > > Never took a hit, sniff, inject whatever. I smoked for 10 days about 7 or so > > years ago, (in the seventh grade). I drink at weddings mostly and have never > > gotten to experience the sheer pleasure of a self-induced hangover, (or any > > hangover for that matter). (Sportswise, skiing and tennis [spectator and > > participator]. None of the 'jock sports' except for the occassional Indians > > game). > > > > > > > > >>So far from this list we have 6 people who do use, 3 who don't and 1 > > >>who did but doesn't anymore. I'm still getting outside information > > >>and shall post the full results later > > >Matt B > > > > Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
Re: [MMouse]: Re: sex
I just picked up elf::gulf bore waltz by the band home. I am liking thus far, and would definitely recommend to fans of built to spill's PFNO. Does anyone know anything else about this band? The only reason I ordered the cd (from JETSET) was because it was described as "built to spill playing dark side of the moon on the millenial new years eve" and I was trying to find a bridge between me and my flatmate who is a prog rock fanatic. I got him listening to whenever you see fit, but he didn't really like long drive. That's all he would listen to. but he's slowly coming around - we do a radio show punk vs prog in melbourne. anyway - home what do you know? L. Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
Re: [MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n263
> for whoever was asking about the japanese modest mouse thingee...it's > nothing unreleased or live, it's just the fruit that ate itself plus i > think the "life of arctic sounds" 7"...that might not be right, but it's > for sure just one of their other releases combined, nothing new or > whatever. > xoxo nicole I just picked up life of arctic sounds 7" but it only had two songs on it.?! L Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
Re: [MMouse]: Neutral MH
dude, I live in australia. this list and the pavement one are the sole reasons I know about mm (thru pave), mogwai, belle and sebastian, silkworm, god speed..., nmh, oldam, slint, etc etc.. The best recomendation you can get is from someone who likes other music you like. welcome. L. > Wow, this cd must be something to behold. You all have me curoius with > positive talk about it. I just checked CdNow and they have it on sale for > $10, I'm going to get it. I hope it's as decent as it's made out to be from > this list, (the only place I heard it from). The few clips from CdNow, > (lovely quality), didn't sound half bad. thanks > > << Neutral Milk Hotel > I bough In Aeroplane Over the Sea last month. I am utterly blown away. > This is the best band I have heard since Modest Mouse. Completely, > wonderfully great. > >> > Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
Re: [MMouse]: Modest Mouse MP3s and more
I think in one of my mogwai or mm cd's I got a catalogue with bands like firewater on it. One of the albums by a band called 'home' (i think) was described as built to spill doing dark side of the moon on the millenium new years eve. Does anyone know anything about this band/cd? L. Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
Re: [MMouse]: techno
I lent my copy of mogwai's kicking a dead pig/mogwai fear satan double remix cd's to a friend. Aparently the kadp cd takes up 666 megabytes on a computer ( I cant remember if this is mp3 or wav format) !!!MOGWAI ARE SATAN?!?!!! L. Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
Re: [MMouse]: locale
> neuteral milk hotel is from down here. they are pretty popular too. i I recently picked up NMH's in the aeroplane over the sea. I haven't liked an album this much since I first heard the fruit that ate itself, my first mm excursion. Tell me more about NMH. privately. L. Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
[MMouse]:
> That has to be one of the most impossible questions of the past 1000 years. > The oldies radio station here in Cleveland has the top 500 songs or something > like that, as voted by people. For the past few years... that one some from > the movie Ghost has been number one by the Everly Brothers, so maybe that's > one. Or maybe the people down under are considering decent music only. > >Gaslight records in melbourne is running a competition and the prize > >is 3 cd's from their top 20 (which would be pretty good). > > >THe aim. To guess as close to how the staff responded on the following > >question: > > >What are the best 5 songs of the last 1000 years? Well, someone at my house against all better judgement sugested that maybe 'Happy Birthday to you' was one of them. I argued with the culprit fruitessly. L. Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
[MMouse]: Re: [zines] worst song
Gaslight records in melbourne is running a competition and the prize is 3 cd's from their top 20 (which would be pretty good). THe aim. To guess as close to how the staff responded on the following question: What are the best 5 songs of the last 1000 years? Bring on the opinions. L. Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
Re: [MMouse]: Away
> Cowboy Dan (because its catchy and, well, just plain absurd. I laugh everytime > I think of being "a major player in the cowboy scene"...good stuff) I really like the line "I didn't go to the city the city came to me and I want out desperately". I mean, I would never be a part of the scene described in the song, and cowboy dan sounds like yr average white redneck genetic fuckup, but I can relate to that kind of alienation, and what it causes in yr life. I actually feel kind of sad when I think of cowboy Dan. Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
Re: [MMouse]: worst
> blasphemy to say. i think mine is "summer" cos the lyrics are so cheesy No way, summer is great. maybe, one of the instrumentals off the fruit...? Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
Re: [MMouse]: MMouse
Um, late scapegoat? whenever you see fit would definitely be up there the first song off the first album, the last song on the I8 first half. L. Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
[MMouse]:
I picked up the Scott4 album recorded in the state today for aus$5 (US$3) What's it like? L. Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
Re: [MMouse]: Album of the year:kleenex girl wonder
> for anyone that hasn't checked out Karate live, do yourself a favor and see > them. (tiara opened up to boot). Karate? please explain. L. Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
Re: [MMouse]: top 10
> 1. sloan-navy blues what are these guys like? > 2. masters of the hemisphere-s/t please explain > 3. the field mice-where'd you learn to kiss that way? please explain > 4. club 8-the friend i once had please explain > 5. poundsign-wavelength please explain > 6. the lucksmiths-a good kind of nervous where did you find out about the lucksmiths? I thought only us australians knew about them. Their previous stuff is way better: What bird is that? and Boondoggle are the best. Plagarism is necessary. Progress implies it. - Guy Debord, plagarising Issadore DuCasse.
